Putin again plotting how to draw progressives away from Dems if they do an all moderate corporate ticket 2016 redux.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 10:55 AM on Wed, Apr 29, 2020:
No, I think Amash would make a wonderful candidate, especially since he is way behind in his district and has no chance of maintaining his Congressional seat. He almost always votes for the Do Nothing Dems anyway. I like him even more than Jill Stein!
Amash/Gabbard would be Putin’s dream ticket for siphoning away enough votes from Biden to reelect Trump.
at 2:06 minutes in on this video, fmr Sen McCaskill also speaks of the WH delight over amash jumping into race.
Rep. Justin Amash, I-Mich., said Tuesday that he has launched a committee that would explore a presidential run under the Libertarian Party. The panel discusses. Aired on 4/29/2020.
Gabbard for running mate? Putin’s dream team.
A snippet from Glenn Kessler’s trip through SFB lies about his COVID 19 response.
And there are more…
usatoday:
GOPers are at it again throwing stones at joe while living in glass houses of their own peccadillos
the hill:
okay, mitch, let’s compare what the new Yorker last week said about you:
” Once McConnell was elected, according to two sources, he made a sexual advance toward one of his female employees. Although his spokesman says that this didn’t happen, one of the sources told me, “It’s the God’s honest truth.”
pogo, a cartoon to go with your 7:39 comment
PatD, priceless update. If trends hold it looks like he may have overestimated the solidity of his support. Oh please, oh please, oh please.
Florida keeps death rate lower by not counting non-residents, who also are not counted in their home states, so completely off the books.. https://t.co/1bVNox3W06
Nope. Amash won’t pull Bernie voters. He stands in opposition to Bernie. Plus, we already know that Trump is scared shitless of facing Joe. Pooh-tin sent medical aid to the US and now doesn’t have enough for his own subjects. Thirty million unemployed Americans. Inadequate testing. Daily diet of lies from Trump. Donny didn’t deserve one term and he damned sure won’t get two. He’s a loser, just like his daddy always knew.
Gabbard for VP?… so that’s why someone down the street has resurrected their Gabbard 2020 sign on their front lawn. She kept claiming she wasn’t Putin’s pawn…. hmmmmm.
Pat
I’m curious how many people they had to screen out to get their 650 Bernie supporters.
Given that in January Bernie’s polling average was 20% of likely Democratic voters and lets say 50% give or take will vote as Democrats. Then we are talking about 10% of the electorate are Bernie supporters.
Of them 22% or 2.2% of likely voters are uncertain that they will support Biden.
8% or .8% of the electorate are persuadable.
12% 0r 1.2% of the electorate are not voting for Biden
So given those numbers to me it looks like everybody is on board those left are always going to vote contrarian.
After all the green party always gets 1 or 2 %
So I think we can safely ignore that 22% or 2.2% of the electorate, they were never going to vote democrat anyway.
Jack
I looked up Amash on wikipedia. He’s NOT going to get many “progressive/moderate” votes. He’s a not really a “libertatrian.” He’s typical socially conservative Republican. For example, he’s pro-life, anti-marijuana legalization, etc. The only difference between him and the other Republicans is that he hates Trump.
MSNBC reports that Trump is furious because he is polling well below Biden in the swing states.
This got me thinking … now that he’s dropping in the polls (and given the fact that the economy is going into a very BAD recession, is this the time when (at long last) many Republicans are going to start “distancing” themselves from Trump?
Might we hear some criticism of him from Republicans who face tough re-election races? Could some of these Republican governors (when the new infection cases explode) abandon re-opening, and ignore pressure from Trump to do so?
Perhaps some brave Republican, regarding his handling of the Covid-19 crisis might say to Trump … “You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
With leads outside margin of error in 4 of 6 decisive battleground states (tied in other 2: Wisconsin and North Carolina) Joe Biden is now the frontrunner.
Economists at JP Morgan (a Wall Street investment bank and definitely NOT a liberal institution) are predicting that unemployment in the USA will soon reach 20%.
The unemployment rate in the depths of the Great Depression of the 1930s was 25%.
In October, airlines will be free to lay off huge numbers of employees. The airline bailout won’t save the industry. Only a vaccine will do that. Payroll protection loans for SBA requires employees to be rehired by June 30th. The loans will be forgiven if they keep employees on the job for eight weeks. So, if business doesn’t pick up, or, if owners can figure out a way to consolidate jobs, around Labor Day you may see folks back on the unemployment rolls.
The UK wasn’t counting Covid deaths unless they happened while in hospital. They have changed that method to include nursing homes.
not counting non-residents, who also are not counted in their home states
craig, new koan: if a snowbird falls unresponsive in a florida and there’s no one there that counts him, is he really dead?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-29/trump-s-operation-warp-speed-aims-to-rush-coronavirus-vaccine?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=politics&utm_source=twitter&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_medium=social
“Operation Warp Speed”
Don’t we have actually need to HAVE a viable vaccine before production can be ramped up?
ATTENTION ATTENTION
Lt. Trail Boss Flatus, please report to your post. Forthwith!
Failure to show up for duty or otherwise be absent without leave is unacceptable.
Your wisdom is highly esteemed, greatly needed at this time of crisis and sadly missed.
bId – I saw the headline that SFB was going to get a vaccine in Warp Speed. Yeah, like the stable genius would even know what a lab is and how it operates.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/opinions/the-problem-with-covid-19-death-numbers-sutter/index.html
“Excess deaths” Number of deaths v expected death rate. The numbers are probably higher.
Trump is planning to start holding his massive campaign rallies again.
This should be an excellent demonstration of Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection.
One fifth of our workers have filed for jobless benefits.
Take Harris off the short list.
Harris: ‘I believe’ Biden accusers https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers
Gabbard is a veteran, dropped out, and endorsed Biden. Kinda silly to imply she’s a willing pawn of Putin.
Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection doesn’t account for human civilization’s support of “useful idiots”.
Four year ago today we argued about how to deal with ripper lies about Hillary Clinton in a topic presented by Ms Jamie.
The argument has relevance to the accusation again Joe Biden. As an example of how we fell out, Ms Cracker wanted every rotten lie denied. Mr Jack felt that we waste resources if we counter every little fib. Mr Crawford counselled that if it’s a lie, deny it, and if it’s the truth keep quiet [ or change the subject ]. By the Crawford protocol, we can figure that Biden is guilty, when we know damn well that he isn’t. 4 years later I say, Biden should say flatly that the story is false, and bring up the zervos, ivana, and carroll assault and rape charges against trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/investing/savings-rate-federal-reserve/index.html
Consumer confidence won’t come back until we have a vaccine for this virus, and, healthcare for all.
Bink, you got a point there about natural selection, but “useful” in that process is up for debate when it comes to humans. I’d say the folks who believe and believe in SFB are useless idiots, and they and their offspring would be on the short list of the weak part of the species. I wouldn’t sleep well if I were them, but then again, most probably don’t believe in evolution, so they probably haven’t given it a thought.
They reviewed the details of the shifting complaint made against Joe on The View. My question: Where was she when Joe decided to run? She says she’s a Dem, but which candidate does she support? The optics of a charge at this late date is that it looks like she is working for Bernie, although Dick a l’orange and the Repugz are using it. They’ll have to tread carefully, lest the dozen or so claims against Trump get litigated in public. Who benefits if Joe isn’t the nominee? The candidate with the next, highest number of votes? That would be Bernie, if the DNC lets it happen. If Bernie is the nominee, that will also benefit Trump. Warren is the way out and up, but the charges against Joe won’t give Warren the nomination, and, she may not want her name on the ticket with him, now. By the way, Stacy Abrams said she believes Joe. Blind ambition?
craig, look more closely at that harris story. “she believes women who say they felt uncomfortable” about inappropriate touching is different than saying she believes he sexually assaulted them. joe himself (as did al franken) said he believed the women, acknowledged and apologized for the unwanted pats and hugs.
and here we go off on another shiny distraction – diddling while rome burns
remember this segment with judy woodruff and david brooks on pbs newshour in april a year ago:
judy woodruff on “the view” interview
most recently, the women who accused Joe Biden of being too familiar, touching them when they didn’t ask to be touched.
Judy Woodruff:
I wanted to just quickly show an excerpt of what he had to say when he talked — when they talked about it.
Joseph Biden:
I’m really sorry if they — what I did in talking to them and trying to counsel, that, in fact, they took it a different way.
And it’s my responsibility to make sure that I bend over backwards to try to understand how not to do that.
Question:
Nancy Pelosi wants you to say, I’m sorry that I invaded your space.
Joseph Biden:
Sorry I invaded your space. I am. I’m sorry this happened.
But I’m not sorry in the sense that I think I did anything that was intentionally designed to do anything wrong or be inappropriate.
Judy Woodruff:
So, David, that wasn’t good enough for some of the women this morning. And then the reaction on social media, women were saying, wait a minute, he should have just directly apologized.
David Brooks:
He could have, yes, but I think he wanted to say this was not a sexual thing.
And I totally agree that. Joe Biden’s invaded my space plenty of time. That’s just the way Joe Biden is. And when it’s across genders, then it becomes a different — a more sensitive subject, obviously.
And so his answer, I think, was the right one. He’s just an ebullient kind of guy who is — you know, who grabs you. But he’s — I think he’s aware that this is not the way things are done now, in an era where we’re much more sensitive about sexual harassment. You just can’t behave that way.
And so the not-good intent, but combined with, I have learned the new situation, I think that’s a reasonably fair option.
People who know that they haven’t evolved probably haven’t. They seem to be a different species. Perhaps, Homo Nascarensis ? Homo Nascarensis, Morlock, being the dominant stock originating in northwestern Europe that migrated to central North America in search of white bread, potato chips, and loud, smelly, fast shiny things.
I’m sorry if you were offended is not an apology.
Moving on, Pence is headed to a GM plant in Kokomo to continue spreading the virus, apparently.
Nuance aside Pat, the headline all GOP needs for an ad:
Harris: “I believe Biden’s accusers.”
Then what does she say when asked, if he picks her?
I getting some different tea leaves.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/us/michigan-tuition-free-educational-program-essential-workers-trnd/index.html
That woman in Michigan! Could she be veep?
I’d approve that woman in Michigan, but I’d really like that lady from New Zealand
Craig
Article on Biden was from 2019 “Biden, who is considering running for president”. On the latest charges from Reade, the story keeps changing including verbiage from a porn novel written by her father.
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patd…. thanks for the trumpengeist video… and all the funny stuff you post! With everything that’s going on… it’s important not to forget one’s sense of humor…. unless you don’t have one.
as the tag line says:
flush the turd on November 3rd
Who was lurking downstairs, disguised as Joe Biden ?
Joe reminds me of an old friend. The man had been married for umteen zillion years with not so much as a hint of a scandal. He was also one of those men that if you were anywhere within reach, you were going to be HUGGED. He patted. He kissed cheeks. He was a walking, talking teddy bear. In all the years of this behavior he was first made very unhappy in the early 80s when some woman complained he was “inappropriate”. It simply never occurred to him that generous affection was “inappropriate”.
While I am more that willing to listen to a believe a woman’s story. I’m not willing to immediately convict the man, until some level of proof is supplied. And, yes I’m still pissed off at Gillibrand for losing Al Franken.
Gillibrand thought she was going to be leader of a movement…..instead she crapped in her mess kit. No hearing. Despicable.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/us-china-coronavirus-diplomacy-intelligence-donald-trump/index.html
The finger pointing continues. Remember, Donald, three of your own fingers always point back at you.
from themoderatevoice on “the frankening of joe biden”:
…those who have followed Russian and GOP coordinated media and trolling will see the bloody handprints of both gaggles all over this allegation.
For instance, on April 25, the Twitter hash tag #DropOutBiden appeared, but began trending at 8 AM Moscow time — but the wee hours of the morning USA time! That ought to make SOMEONE sit up and take notice.
[..]
For TWO DAYS, they put forth a coordinated blogswarm (and a Russian ‘bot swarm on Facebook and Twitter) waiting for the guileless mainstream media to take the bait.
Here. And Here. And Here. And Here.
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Unable to win by cheating, slander, and by shaking down the President of Ukraine* and every other dirty trick, this “amazing” allegation surfaces at the PERFECT time to mobilize sullen Bernie fanatics and perhaps scare the Democratic establishment AGAIN, but NOT A PEEP has been heard from the “watchdog” press about how this just seems “too good to be true” for candidate Trump — who has been accused of at least the same crime tenfold and more than Biden’s sole, strange, Russian-besotted accuser.
The next ad will be clips from his 17 accusers. And the pussy-grab tape.
Time to quit worrying about the “feelings”of or “losing” his deplorable base. Gloves off, Democrats, defend our country.
“MSNBC reports that Trump is furious because he is polling well below Biden in the swing states. ” YES!!!!
I never liked Harris much.
The brother’s recollection of her story has shifted, as well. We had a guy at the office who always came up behind me, lifted my hair off of my shoulders, grabbed my neck and asked me how I was doing. He never lingered. He did it to every woman. Every man got a walking pat on the back as they moved down the hall. He was an overbearing creep in other ways, but the touchy-feely stuff was his normal behavior with everyone. It was icky, but you didn’t call anyone on those things back then. Ain’t nobody gonna even shake hands now.
A vote for Trump, is a vote for Moscow. Real Americans don’t vote Republican.
An interesting side effect of the world wide shut down is even the criminals are feeling it. LA Times article about money not getting laundered.
Jamie, a quote even a year ago like Harris saying she believes Biden accusers is well within statute of limitations for a GOP TV ad if he picks her. Considering her otherwise questionable attributes for a ticket I think she should be off the list.
Here is an article that speaks the truth to the world about republicans and unemployment. The Plum Line, WashPo.
Veteran Prosecutor on the Tara issue
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/30/1941560/-Veteran-federal-prosecutor-dismantles-piece-by-piece-the-Reade-Biden-accusations-in-USA-Today
The establishment Democrats all rallied around “Groper Joe.” Now they are stuck with him.
You’ve seen the pictures of Biden. This guy gropes women in public, in front of cameras! Do you really believe that he never sexually assaulted a young low ranking female staff member when he got her alone in private? It fits the pattern of sexually aggressive, privileged and powerful men. Congress has always had lots of these groper guys, and their senior staff always cover it up and fire the women if they complain. If you are a member of Congress you can get away with sexual assault. It’s the culture of the place.
Now we see the sickening behavior of Democrats who call themselves feminists, who support the #me too movement, and they are saying the same things that we always hear from the defenders of the sexual abusers. “The woman is lying.” “She’s changed her story.” “The witnesses who confirm her story are lying.” “Why didn’t she file charges with the police at the time of the incident?” “Why is she coming forward now?” And, of course, “She was a BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER!!!” Maybe they should just add, “Burn the witch!”
Remember how Biden treated Anita Hill? Remember how he kept several other women from testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee who would have confirmed her accounts that Clarence Thomas was a serial sexual abuser? Biden didn’t want sexual abuse claims to be taken seriously. He didn’t think that was enough to keep Thomas off the Supreme Court, which shows you how he thinks.
He never apologized to Anita Hill until recently, when he decided to run for President. That cynical, self-serving apology was not accepted, by the way.
So go ahead make excuses for Biden. He’s not as big a pig as Trump. (That might a good campaign slogan.)
I will vote for Biden, but I’m not gong to pretend he’s a good guy.
I am totally disgusted with the dominant “establishment” wing of the Democratic party.
Is this guy the best you can do?
🙄 So Nash your theme for the next 6 months is going to be I hate Joe and here’s why but I hate him less than tRump so I’m voting for Joe? Shall we count how many ways you can say that?
Gnash
Haha…..how long before Gnash “just can’t vote for Biden”?
Never gets old… https://t.co/WQSm1xKtas
House GOP Leader in 2016 says Putin pays Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/business/mark-cuban-economy-coronavirus/index.html
At least there is one billionaire who understands that you water the roots instead of the leaves. Here is Mark Cuban’s plan to get the economy going. (Of course, the virus has to be handled or non of this matters.)
Nash – I will be framing my vote as voting against Trump (and Moscow).
Not that my vote in the general election matters, since I live in Texas. The area is getting much more purple, though.
I will be voting against incompetence.
Glad to be on the side of Jim Clyburn. I wonder if there’s any backbiter anywhere who considers Jim Clyburn to be in the “establishment” wing of the Democratic Party. If he is……sign me up.
Craig,
As far as I can tell the majority of complaints against Harris are from suspect sources. Matching them against the KHive could risk alienating a big part of the females who saw her as the technicolor Hillary. She already has the name recognition, experience, and TV committee time only matched by Amy Klobuchar.
I’m back. Being the patriarch of a large(ly) independent family can be a daunting and fatiguing affair. Oh, well.
Daughter Sue is doing her best to educate, and feed, her troubled charges despite schools having been closed probably until there’s a resolution to the CV terror. Those of us who are old will remember the recurring attacks by that bastard, Poliomyelitis. It attacked younger people more than the elderly. Back then the breathing appliance of choice was an iron lung–less invasive than the high tech device in current use.
Like a good boy, I’ve been cutting the grass as needed and had my LAN upgraded to fiber-optic–a very impressive upgrade. Rosie is healthy and enjoying her new mini-split climate control system. She’s jealous of the critters outside that get to enjoy the hanging plants that I bought over the weekend.
Well, sorry I abandoned ship. No good excuse. I suppose my upcoming birthday next week, the last for this decade of membership in the ‘silent generation’ may have had me feeling sorry for myself. I’ll try to do better.
Flatus
You can’t fool me….you was out gallivantin’ …….
https://mcusercontent.com/94410c631cdf8754aa50eee6f/files/32d1b7fe-0bdc-42a1-8c87-84870467f403/OpenTexas_Report.pdf?mc_cid=e7228fa534&mc_eid=94f9d1bdd6
Here’s the TX gov’s report on re-opening the state. Mayday, mayday!
Flatus- Glad to see you here!
Flatus… that’s the spirit! Good to see you back!
What would you like for your birthday?… besides trump gone 🙂
Wheeeeee…..
Sturg, I can honestly say, I’ve had absolutely no urge to gallivant. Should I ever do such a thing, Rosie has my irrevocable permission to drive her butt to my grandson’s impressive stable of vehicles and find a spot to her liking. Flatus Out.
Anyone else think some/all of these protestors are on someone’s payroll? Some of the slogans on the signs & some of them aren’t homemade signs. They seem a little Repug/Russian-y.
RR, “What would you like for your birthday?” I’d like a nice $1,200 check with a letter from a turd saying he was responsible. Then I would take $1,000 of it and donate it to Biden and a related group. The remainder, I would give to local candidates. I can say, that birthday wish has been accomplished as of Tuesday evening.
Flatus
Flatus
Welcome back. Remember the polio epidemics well. As with Covid-19 it could be very selective. During the whole incubation, me and my two step-sisters were constantly in each others company. Janice was paralyzed from the neck down, Carolyn was just fine, and I got a mild “flu”. Janice spent a long time in a lung and then once able to breath and regaining some control over one hand, she wore a full body cast for years until her death during spinal surgery. Needless to say, I’m not too sympathetic to anyone who wants to skip that particular vaccine as the virus we thought was defeated is now seeing outbreaks around the globe.
Flatus- That is a brilliant use of your stimulus money. Ha! 😄 Bravo! I hope you have a Happy Birthday next week. 🎂
It’s just as well…..gallivanting ain’t what it used to be
The Clinton accusers got support and a platform from the Trumpers. I think Ms Reade may be in the same swift boat.
Flatus… good on you!
Rick and I are still waiting for that money.
Unintended Virus humor. My grandson was recently laid off and got his unemployment almost immediately as he lives here in WA. In addition he is receiving the CARES supplement with the end result that his “take home” is now more than his former salary. His wife’s commentary: “Stay unemployed, you have a family to support.”
Flatus – Happy upcoming birthday.
Polio was a horrible thing. My great-aunt had it. We all learned about it in school because your schoolmates might get it and go away. Growing up in the Fifties meant learning about the life our parents lived, and our grandparents lived, and back forever. In other words, we did not have the medicines and vaccines we do today. Disease and death were part of life.
But, we are still humans and we still have contagions which are around to hurt, main or kill us.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ncJ1opA14/?igshid=5g72mbjdchg6
Remember Madeleine Albright’s Read My Pins? Well, this is for Dr. Birx’ scarves.
Jamie – In my first unemployment distribution, I received two weeks of state funds plus one $600 “enhanced” payment. I thought it was supposed to be $600/week for 8 weeks, not per two-week distribution. Leave it to Texas. At least it’s not as bad as Florida. Those poor folks.
C’Bob – There are still 80 cruise ships out there and there are passengers on them who still have not been allowed off. The CDC requires that the cruise lines provide private transportation off of the ships, but the ships don’t want to pay for that.
Andrew Yang started a podcast. Yang Speaks. We won’t be going back to “normal.” We’ve got to do better for all.
CB, Sturg, you’re gonna like this.
BTW, CB, opinions are so much easier to come out with than solutions are easy to come up with. I’ve got opinions; solutions? Beyond vote SFB and Repugnican senators out of office, not so much.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2020/digital/news/andrew-yang-podcast-premiere-date-yang-speaks-1203549924/amp/
No, C’Bob. Yang is saying we need new ways forward. There is no way back to anything near what we consider “normal.”
Nothing funnier than “total f-ing panic, dead people and BS” at the moment. I do like the part where she refers to JarJar as Trump’s sh/ goblin-in-law, and, Boris Johnson as a sentient ham.
I am relieved to read you again, Mr Flatus. Happy Premature Birthday ! and have a joyous year.
Drinks for the House !
Nash- what did you do for women, this week? Lemme guess- not a goddamned thing, except post on the internet.
C-bob- you have solutions. Get over yourself and share them.
i logged on to share a song, but you selfish loons got me distracted. Hmmm, what was that song?
oh, i remember. the guy with tattoos on his face. he’s actually good:
oh btw, good Sir Nash: i’m not going to owe you anything come November if you vote for Biden. Vote for whomever you want, i give zero fucks for whom you decide to cast your vote.
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Good drinks. No bleach or Lysol.
Cheers, good Sir. Thanks for all the knowledge and wisdom you’ve shared. Keep it coming, please.
Go to bed, Mr Bink.
Get to bed, X, dammit.
Goodnight, Mr Dexter.
When the evening sun goes down…
It ain’t no good life, x.
…but it’s my life🤷♂️
this was supposed to be a more considered playlist🤷♂️
Wow, Clapton is terrible
(but we needed him to set up this one:)
i received a message, from Nash, about Marx:
…someone pushed a gun into my hand:
…can’t top that.
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