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Last Chance Before Iowa
Here is our thread for Democratic Debate 9pm ET on CNN, last one before Iowa Caucuses (just 3 weeks away).
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Trump did Biden a favor putting war and peace front and center for this debate.
Ping Pong
5 years ago
Hey Craig, This is the basis for a sitcom with the construct of the 4th estate as the supporting actors, all a joke!
Ping Pong
5 years ago
Hmm? What did Iran do with the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars? Did they help their people? NO
They murdered 100 of thousands… But that question will not be asked tonight
”…BILLIONS of dollars? Did they help their people? NOThey murdered 100 of thousands“-pong
when did they murder ”100 of thousands”?
Ping Pong
5 years ago
Hey Amy.. Sorry – you are wrong along with your supporting cast . The Euro’s are moving to join Trump and they are calling Iran to task. The agreement that was done did allow a path to a bomb
It was their money. It was their money when it was on deposit here in the US and it was their money when sent back. I don’t like the way the US spends its money but I don’t want another country telling us what to do with it. We have no business telling the Iranians what to do with their money.
Ping Pong
5 years ago
Bink, You have a good point. Only 600 Americans not counting those that have been wounded. Not sure about those in their own country of Iran and Syria. Maybe under 100K… Does that make it better?
UPDATE – HEY Elizabeth, .. China is signing … WAKE UP
Berine
thanks for your numbers down by a factor of over 100, ping. dare i ask where you get your “600” number?
Ping Pong
5 years ago
Take my gun that is protection, but give our enemy money to kill / murder others.
Sorry guys but we need better from the Dem’s. They are not raising the bar.
Craig,
Hope you are well and thank you for allowing me to join in.
I am going to go back and join the energy from the event in Wisconsin. Otherwise I will be falling asleep.
4 more years is on the way for Trump
Good question Poobah. I’ve got a question, why are these candidates for president of United States raising their hand like school kids trying to be called on?
Medicare uses insurance companies. Non Profit doesn’t mean the people who push the paper don’t get paid any more than civil servants go to work without getting a paycheck.
It’s like these folks have forgotten there’s a lunatic in the White House. Enough wonkery about governing, tell us how you’re going to beat his ass and win the right to govern.
Did CNN decide that 2 minutes is the gold standard for answers to 30 second questions? I’m sorry, too few seconds in the answers to convey information.
So Parnas was working on surveilling Yovanovitch while SFB was saying she’d go through things and was seeking a declaration from Yelenski that he’d investigate looking for dirt on Biden while SFB was shaking Yelensky down for dirt on Biden. Coincidence? GMAFB.
I’ve decided, I’m going to vote for Buttigieg…in 2028 (or 2024 if Joe steps down after one term.) Seriously, he’s done a great job of presenting himself to the dem voter. He just ain’t got the support yet. If Amy runs in either of those it will make it a VERY hard decision for me.
Blink, I’m too old to join a movement. Well, grey panthers (do they include males?) maybe. I’m debating when to start drawing Social Security fuhchrissakes.
Overall seems like Liz got back in the game, might regain some Iowa momentum against Bernie, and Pete-Amy didn’t rise. So it’s advantage Biden despite a weak night. Progressives and his moderate challengers all split, he stays on top.
Bink, i read it. Inspiration and grass roots idealism are wonderful if you’re not dealing with bodies and joints going to shit and you’re planning to scale shit back. I’m kidding (a little) but grass roots idealism is not for old men. Pick up the mantle whippersnapper. Us old farts will vote; we won’t organize with the energy of youth.
Ping conveniently forgot that reagan delivered missiles to the ayatollah. It was that republican administration that criminally armed Iranian terrorists, to get money for the nun-raping and murdering contras, another criminal activity.
He ignores trump giving the green light to the Iranian nuclear weapons program, and trump’s desire to give nuclear weapons to the batshitcrazy terrorist saudi state. trump can’t justify arming the murderous saudis (‘who are nice people; they buy condos from me’) with nukes until Iran has them.
I must disagree with our gracious host. I thought Biden’s delivery was alarmingly unsteady. bernie! is driving me crazy : his wild gestures seem to be getting ever wilder. Buttigieg’s puffery annoys me, too. Nice delivery, though.
All of them : too much “I” and “my”. Too much wonkiness and not enough soul. Gimme soul, happy confidence, uplifting message, and “we.” These are the qualities that trump lacks entirely. Using them t0 the fullest would be the campaign equivalent of Sun Tzu’s dictum, “Strike into emptiness.” trump would find himself completely out-maneuvered.
Xrepub I said Biden was weak in the debate but despite that the night didn’t shake out individual challengers from the Bernie-Liz progressive rivalry and the Pete-Amy moderate contest, leaving Joe still the one to beat, especially since no one laid a hand on him.
Mr Crawford, indeed you did call Biden weak. You were sooooo right. I thought he looked like a confused doddering has-been. It saddened me and I hate it, but that was my impression. For the first time I sort of agree w/Ms Cracker about Biden. I expect that he can still beat the crud out of trump in November – more likely trump’s misdeeds are going to destroy him – but I don’t think Biden has what it takes to be a good president.
giuliani is getting close to prison. He had Ambassador Yovanovich’s computer and phone hacked, and set ripper congressional candidate & hoodlum bob hyde stalk her, while alleging that he is working s trump’s personal attorney. I’m guessing that in a couple days trump will say, “giuliani ? I don’t think I ever met him.” This is really major and dangerous stuff.
Hello. All tuned in to CNN. Let’s see if they can keep my interest. GO AMY!!!!!
Much punditry Amy must break out tonight. Joan Wash says she will.
Biden and Steyer the tallest
Biden let Bernie turn the commander in chief question into Iraq war debate. Ugh
Bernie just can’t stop waving his hand in front of others’ faces.
Amy first to bring up Trump
She’s pushing her national experience against that of the heroic “small town” mayor.
Alert Alert Alert
Wo Who!
Interesting to watch….. Seems they are all a little nervous
Low Energy compared to the event in Wisconsin
Vulf is a decent debate moderator. No one’s standing out to me so far.
Ping watch sitcoms for entertainment.
Is an American Embassy considered American soil? Yes…..
Vulf, Wake Up
Bernie is being entertaining.
Trump did Biden a favor putting war and peace front and center for this debate.
Hey Craig, This is the basis for a sitcom with the construct of the 4th estate as the supporting actors, all a joke!
Hmm? What did Iran do with the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars? Did they help their people? NO
They murdered 100 of thousands… But that question will not be asked tonight
…digging the authority with which Warren speaks.
That was their money we had frozen, not ours. Another Trump lie.
”…BILLIONS of dollars? Did they help their people? NOThey murdered 100 of thousands“-pong
when did they murder ”100 of thousands”?
Hey Amy.. Sorry – you are wrong along with your supporting cast . The Euro’s are moving to join Trump and they are calling Iran to task. The agreement that was done did allow a path to a bomb
Ping
It was their money. It was their money when it was on deposit here in the US and it was their money when sent back. I don’t like the way the US spends its money but I don’t want another country telling us what to do with it. We have no business telling the Iranians what to do with their money.
Bink, You have a good point. Only 600 Americans not counting those that have been wounded. Not sure about those in their own country of Iran and Syria. Maybe under 100K… Does that make it better?
UPDATE – HEY Elizabeth, .. China is signing … WAKE UP
Berine
Bernie sure is “sick and tired” a lot
thanks for your numbers down by a factor of over 100, ping. dare i ask where you get your “600” number?
Take my gun that is protection, but give our enemy money to kill / murder others.
Sorry guys but we need better from the Dem’s. They are not raising the bar.
bernie is doing well
Bink,
One is enough.
Thanks to Trump Iran is back in the nuke business
ok well thank you for conceding that you’re just making shit up, ping. always a pleasure!
Why Europe hates Trump More than Iran
Craig,
Hope you are well and thank you for allowing me to join in.
I am going to go back and join the energy from the event in Wisconsin. Otherwise I will be falling asleep.
4 more years is on the way for Trump
Bink,
Bernie is doing well only if you like angry old men who are only out for themselves.
”I am going to go back and join the energy from the event in Wisconsin. “
lol that groovy Nazi-esque energy
Bink,
Here is one. No need to comment any further.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/us/suleimani-iran-attacks.html
I miss Yang. Somebody should have worn a Math lapel pin in tribute
Craig
Sorry to disrupt
ping that guy in the article is alive
So now the Bernie-Lizzie question comes up. Bernie done good.
…and Lizzie done good. Didn’t take the bait.
wow bernie just threw away his momentum
Ping, you know the take my gun meme is false. You can’t be drinking the trumpnra kool aid can you?
Well at least Bernie and Liz agreed 1990 was 30 years ago. Almost has to reach for my calculator.
Bernie is agravating
Warren is doing well.
Biden is duller than dirt, but dependable.
Still really like Amy
Mayor Pete and Steyer just aren’t doing anything for me.
Yes, Yang should have been there.
pretend yang is there by making the answer to every single question “universal basic income” in your head
Yes Bink that does help
Right now the majority of senior citizens pay $150 a month out of their Social Security towards Medicare.
Oh and that is in addition to co-pays when they go to the doctor
Medicare for all sounds great but here on Earth Trump is trying to destroy Obamacare. Can’t someone say that?
lol Warren said it as soon as you asked
Every health care question can be turned into an attack on Trump. I’m waiting
Good question Poobah. I’ve got a question, why are these candidates for president of United States raising their hand like school kids trying to be called on?
Bernie is fucking stuck on talking points. Jesus.
Medicare uses insurance companies. Non Profit doesn’t mean the people who push the paper don’t get paid any more than civil servants go to work without getting a paycheck.
Healthcare systems around the globe:
http://www.pnhp.org/single_payer_resources/health_care_systems_four_basic_models.php
Pogo
He should be. He’s been saying the same thing for forty years without doing anything.
Lizzie is out of her mind. The government is not going to start manufacturing generic alternatives to brand name drugs.
When are they going to figure out that a “tax credit” doesn’t do a damn thing for anyone earning a wage that doesn’t pay taxes?
It’s like these folks have forgotten there’s a lunatic in the White House. Enough wonkery about governing, tell us how you’re going to beat his ass and win the right to govern.
Still watching, but going off line. Talk to you all tomorrow
Did CNN decide that 2 minutes is the gold standard for answers to 30 second questions? I’m sorry, too few seconds in the answers to convey information.
So Parnas was working on surveilling Yovanovitch while SFB was saying she’d go through things and was seeking a declaration from Yelenski that he’d investigate looking for dirt on Biden while SFB was shaking Yelensky down for dirt on Biden. Coincidence? GMAFB.
…bizarre the producers are having the audience applaud when coming back from commercial break.
yeesh amy🙄
Pete forgot the question.
i like how every question is phrased as an insult
lol who wrote these questions
Some good Trump bashing now. Finally
Grass roots movement … blahdyblahdyblah.
join the movement pogo cmon
I’ve decided, I’m going to vote for Buttigieg…in 2028 (or 2024 if Joe steps down after one term.) Seriously, he’s done a great job of presenting himself to the dem voter. He just ain’t got the support yet. If Amy runs in either of those it will make it a VERY hard decision for me.
Only until the end did they give a sense of how they’ll run against Trump. Good stuff, want more.
Biden needs a solid wrap, even if just a minute
Blink, I’m too old to join a movement. Well, grey panthers (do they include males?) maybe. I’m debating when to start drawing Social Security fuhchrissakes.
Did his character and soul stump talk, it works
ok i agree with bernie- it was a good debate. i like that they didn’t attack each other, and there were no big losers.
did you not read my inspirational “you’re not too old” post, pogo?!
Poobah, consensus is that he did just that. Warren gets the overall award maybe. 3 weeks from now no one will remember.
Overall seems like Liz got back in the game, might regain some Iowa momentum against Bernie, and Pete-Amy didn’t rise. So it’s advantage Biden despite a weak night. Progressives and his moderate challengers all split, he stays on top.
Bink, i read it. Inspiration and grass roots idealism are wonderful if you’re not dealing with bodies and joints going to shit and you’re planning to scale shit back. I’m kidding (a little) but grass roots idealism is not for old men. Pick up the mantle whippersnapper. Us old farts will vote; we won’t organize with the energy of youth.
ok im going to start doing a friday jazzercise thread
plz dress accordingly
Ping conveniently forgot that reagan delivered missiles to the ayatollah. It was that republican administration that criminally armed Iranian terrorists, to get money for the nun-raping and murdering contras, another criminal activity.
He ignores trump giving the green light to the Iranian nuclear weapons program, and trump’s desire to give nuclear weapons to the batshitcrazy terrorist saudi state. trump can’t justify arming the murderous saudis (‘who are nice people; they buy condos from me’) with nukes until Iran has them.
Lock them ALL up.
I must disagree with our gracious host. I thought Biden’s delivery was alarmingly unsteady. bernie! is driving me crazy : his wild gestures seem to be getting ever wilder. Buttigieg’s puffery annoys me, too. Nice delivery, though.
All of them : too much “I” and “my”. Too much wonkiness and not enough soul. Gimme soul, happy confidence, uplifting message, and “we.” These are the qualities that trump lacks entirely. Using them t0 the fullest would be the campaign equivalent of Sun Tzu’s dictum, “Strike into emptiness.” trump would find himself completely out-maneuvered.
Xrepub I said Biden was weak in the debate but despite that the night didn’t shake out individual challengers from the Bernie-Liz progressive rivalry and the Pete-Amy moderate contest, leaving Joe still the one to beat, especially since no one laid a hand on him.
Mr Crawford, indeed you did call Biden weak. You were sooooo right. I thought he looked like a confused doddering has-been. It saddened me and I hate it, but that was my impression. For the first time I sort of agree w/Ms Cracker about Biden. I expect that he can still beat the crud out of trump in November – more likely trump’s misdeeds are going to destroy him – but I don’t think Biden has what it takes to be a good president.
giuliani is getting close to prison. He had Ambassador Yovanovich’s computer and phone hacked, and set ripper congressional candidate & hoodlum bob hyde stalk her, while alleging that he is working s trump’s personal attorney. I’m guessing that in a couple days trump will say, “giuliani ? I don’t think I ever met him.” This is really major and dangerous stuff.
bob hyde is a professional fixer – not a lawn boy as he is frequently identified :
https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-is-robert-f-hyde-the-trump-donor-who-apparently-tracked-marie-yovanovitch
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