CNN’s new national poll of Democrats reveals something interesting. As Kamala Harris sinks Joe Biden rises. This suggests her wavering supporters go to him. Which means it would benefit Elizabeth Warren for Harris to get back in the game, especially if Harris can find a way to peel away black voters from Biden’s significant lead among them.
perhaps if she starts interacting with Stacey Abrams (IOW putting in a good word about the Fair Fight movement and maybe a photo or phone call or nifty tweet to go viral) it would accomplish the same thing. a little hint here or there about veep talk maybe.
cbs news:
Democrat Stacey Abrams, who isn’t running for president in 2020, said that none of her fellow Democrats seeking the party’s nomination to face off against President Trump have contacted her about making a possible vice-presidential run, but she said she would be “honored” to be considered.
“I would be honored to be considered for the vice presidency by the nominee, but it is presumptuous to think that they are looking at me. What I want everyone to look at is voter suppression,” Abrams said on “CBS This Morning” Monday.
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a dynamic duo for debates too. Lizzie vs the twit and Stacey vs the twit-let (aka nit-twit)
darcy at Cleveland plain dealer:
The Cleveland Browns field goal kickers have been struggling. President Trump could be available for a tryout in 2021 or even sooner. His tanning bed already seems to be set at ‘Browns Orange.”
Despite alleged bone spurs, Trump has shown he can kick for decades. His latest targets have included Jewish-American voters, and former and current Trump communication team members Anthony Scaramucci and Fox News.
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The real bad news for Trump, is that it appears there is in fact a growing number of Republican and Independent voters who now share Scaramucci’s Trump take, not Jean Pero’s.
on fox news via msn:
During a Tuesday interview on the “Hacks on Tap” podcast, Scaramucci casually mentioned that he was going to be “running advertisements” from his own political action committee featuring him and his wife describing what the president “does to people” in hopes of swaying white suburban women.
“Hold on a second, tell me about your political action committee,” podcast co-host David Axelrod interrupted.
“I haven’t formed it yet, but I will,” Scaramucci said. “I’m in the process of doing it. It’s going to be The Committee to Dismantle Trump, but I’ll come up with a much more clever thing than that. I’m gonna throw in my own dough, ask others to put their dough in there and we’re going to explain to the people what he’s doing.”
Scaramucci suggested that the reason he gets “under Trump’s skin” is because he himself isn’t a politician and that his insults are “a reflection of him.”
“At the end of the day, you know, I can grab ahold of five, six, eight percent of the people that know he’s nuts and possibly move them,” Scaramucci added.
On Monday, Trump blasted Scaramucci on and referenced Scaramucci’s wife, Deidre Ball, on Twitter.
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Trump is busy this morning tweeting and agreeing that he is King of the Jews. White coat territory.
Jamie, looks like he’s tap-dancing and tweeting fast to make up for his own anti-Semitic trope version of very same thing rep. omar got reprimanded for.
Pat, trust me, not the Plain Dealer. So long as end Dante Lavelli is their kicker, the Browns will be the Champs. Ask Otto Graham.
Pat
It was way worse than what Omar said. Omar questioned the dual loyalty of a single individual. That can be a legitimate question. Trump is assuming that all Jews are and should be loyal to the state of Israel. BTW this is not the first time he has implied this.
Jack
I would say that all Jews must support and protect the existence of the Jewish Homeland known as Israel. To ignore or decline this Obligation is to risk another Holocaust. The Obligation supersedes any demands by politicians for kissing of their asses no matter where those asses claim seat.
by George, he’s at it again as reported by newsweek:
Attorney and frequent Trump administration critic George Conway lashed out at White House staff on Tuesday, slamming them for working for “a rapist,” despite his wife Kellyanne Conway working as a senior counselor to the president.
“I love how these people who work for a rapist have no compunction about making accusations of abuse by someone who criticizes the rapist,” Conway wrote on Twitter, re-tweeting a post by conservative political analyst Bill Kristol. Trump has been accused of sexual assault and rape by multiple women, but none of those allegations have been proven, and the president has never been indicted for any sexual crime.
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flatus, “support and protect the existence of the Jewish Homeland known as Israel” should NOT mean nor have to include the blind automatonlike support and protection of bibi or any one particular politician or policy he espouses.
by Conway tweeting trump is a rapist, I have a suspicion George is purposefully fishing for a lawsuit. does Donald dare risk the discovery that would be demanded in a defamation case?
or is george just hoping to get his wife fired? or fired up?
Pat, I was very careful not to say the “State” of Israel or anything that would oblige people to support Bibi or any one other than Moses.
So Flatus what you are saying is that the Palestinians are just collateral damage because the Europeans can’t get their act together and need a place to send their European Jews?
That sounds rough but to me it is the inevitable conclusion of your Zionist statement.
Zionism is a 19th century European idea and has all the racist problems of the era.
Jack
Their plan is to inundate the public with a deluge of obfuscatory, irrelevant, and mundane inanity, thereby frustrating any and all attempts at meaningful discourse while they steadfastly pursue their goal of dismantling all societal norms.
Jack, I don’t care to put labels on it, but we both know that Jewish populations, whether in America or abroad, are convenient targets for hate groups including their agents in government.
Their ultimate goal is a society of serfs, warriors, and Barons.
Sturg, you hit the nail on the head; case closed.
BTW
Zionism wasn’t the only {send them back where they come from} solution/ avoidance to deal with multicultural ethnic problems. Southern slave owners saw the idea as an excellent way to deal with trouble some free blacks in their midst. So they collaborated with do gooding Northerners to founded the American Colonization Society.
Thus we get Liberia with the oppression of an oligarchy of the descendants of these immigrants over the indigenous tribes.
For some reason most 19th century ideas are bad.
Jack
The Jill Biden interview — a joke
Looking at the Dem nomination poll sit looks like all the top 3 candidates are losing a bit of support and that Booker and O’Rourke are gaining a bit, but are still barely within sight of the top three or even 4 although Kamala is trending quickly toward Buttigieg, although both of them are on the same slow downward trend as the top 3. It may be just me, but I think that if Beto doesn’t knock it out of the park and get a big bump following the next debate he should cast his lot in the TX senate race and try to pull one seat back to the dem side.
If the Jewish community in the Israel / Palestine area are going to survive then they need to do what the White community in South Africa did, they are going to have to come to an accommodation with their neighbors. Part of that accommodation will have to be the surrender of the concept of a Jewish religious state. They can start working toward it now or they can wait until there is horrendous bloodshed, needless to say the terms will be much harsher for them.
Jack
I want to be associated with Sturg’s 11:21 post.
As to who’s ahead in what polls and why… it makes fascinating reading…. but as KGC likes to remind us…. not one vote has been cast yet.
Kamala has to score big in Iowa to convince black voters she can win in White America. If she can come in a strong second then she can basically skip NH, let Bernie and Warren fight it out. The black vote with start moving toward her, she wins big in SC and like Obama she is on her way.
Jack
Craig is right about one thing, for Warren to win she needs to divide Biden’s support. Too many people are fighting it out on the left. This leaves Biden all by his lonesome. The safer thing for her is to promote one of the centrist, give them some help and they can pull votes from Biden. If she promote Kamala then there is a big risk she ends up in worse shape.
Jack
Good point Jack, re: risk of Harris overtaking Warren. One thing about Harris and the black vote: stressing her background as a prosecutor is not sitting well with them. Obama’s community organizing cred was much more popular.
It turns out the Harris surge was a media construct
no bites on my suggestion that Warren should shine some of her limelight on the Fair Fight org and Stacey Abrams?
Craig
It is not setting well with the “black lives matter” folks but while they are loud they represent a small part of the black vote. The black vote is very diverse. They just don’t vote for white bigots.
Jack
lizzie did go down to GA last year campaigning for Stacey and in dec. contributed $10,000 to Fair Fight.
too bad not more is being made of it.
ALERT! Sean Spicer will be on Dancing with the Stars. Ha!
Some interesting polls and charts re “second choice” candidates and how the position over all age & education groups. Warren and Harris are definitely in the heat of things
Who is ahead in the Democratic primary race?
at 18:47 minutes in video below she talked about Stacey and voter suppression and (of course) a plan for a national right to vote constitutional amendment at al Sharpton’s National Action Network Convention
Puzzled by the 12 point drop for Harris in the CNN poll from its previous measurement. Even given the six-point margin of error that is statistically significant. She got a closer look with the punch at Biden in the Miami debate and ultimately didn’t fare well. Why?
lizzie’s call to arms “you don’t get what you don’t fight for” reminded me of this
“If you don’t fight for what you want, then don’t cry for what you lost.
Likewise,
Nothing depends on luck, everything depends on work,
Because Even Luck has to work.”
Bhagavad Gita
maybe actual voters didn’t see what the media wanted them to believe
Poobah, Harris’ post debate bump in late June was about 8 points in a couple of polls, more like 6 overall, and lasted about 6 weeks. She is now where she was going into the 1st debate. Only CNN and Quinnipiac had her above 15 points even then. Her last 15 point pol result was 7/9, and she was really in the 12 point or so range in most polls after that, dropping to where she is now.
Some days are weirder than others, or at least that was life prior to January 2017. Remember that SFB was the Russian agent just a few weeks ago. Now he is the anti-christ or some such nonsense. The guy is not normal, he needs to be treated as extremely not normal.
bbronc, some of his 180 degree swings this week look more like frantic efforts to distract the media than his usual lunatic ravings. he’s throwing more than spaghetti against the wall to get something to stick and take their attention away from plummeting polls.
Yes Pogo, what I am trying to understand is what about her did not resonate and build her momentum? Warren on the other hand has gradually risen without dramatic ups and downs. What’s the difference?
Craig
I like Harris, but she is down around number 3 on the preferences. Biden is lower. The only thing I noted from the initial media push is the Bernie Bros came out in droves with the “super cop” and “slept her way to the top” memes. They started with her, but are now attacking every one of top five in the field. Of course, he hasn’t said a word to calm them down. It is 2016 and may be Russians, bots, or just GOP activists. In any case, it’s already ugly and the ugliest stepsister is Sanders.
Craig… one thing I see as a difference between Harris and Warren is that Warren seems to be a darling of the media at the moment. I’ve barely seen anything about Harris except to recently say her polling number are down. Course… I’ll admit that being summertime, I don’t pay as much attention as I usually do.
patd…. you’re 2:06…. nailed it!
Tired of driving? Let your fish do it.
Mark Sanford — he is only willing to take SFB on economic issues and said he was Republican so he would vote for him in the general more like he’s an asshole so he’ll vote for the asshole
“what about her did not resonate” ???
like Hillary, some are seeing her as more calculating or obfuscating and less than “authentic” whatever that means. Buttigieg, warren and klobuchar come across as clearer in their presentations, responses and interactions with ordinary folk.
sharper edge – maybe a meanness- in the way she and gillibrand speak compared to what comes across as more kindly with them.
Poobah, patd might have something there. I like Kamala, but Mrs. P doesn’t care for her – thinks she’s kind of a Cassius and doesn’t trust her. I suspect Mrs. P is not unique in that regard. Combine that with the skepticism some folks, especially the black community in CA, have of her prior law and order work as a prosecutor and top it off with the media’s fascination first with Buttigieg then Warren and it’s pretty easy to see how she might struggle to gain and hold the attention of a broader swath of voters. The one punch standing 8 count she delivered in the first debate may have been fun to a passel of folks, but it apparently didn’t have a lot of staying power when she didn’t come back in with at least some serious body blows in the second one.
netanyahu must be upset that trump claimed to be the best president for Jews in history. bibi claims that title for himself. Maybe these two gasbags should have a debate.
Yes Pogo, there’s something about Harris that didn’t click when she got her 15 minutes.
Me thinks it’s about authenticity. And only Biden and Warren have it. This is the contest. Bernie is a clown show.
The Jewish hope for a return to Zion is not European. It is shared by Jews from Aukland to Cape Town to Tierra del Fuego, and from Beijing to Perm to Nome. The majority of Jewish Israelis are descended from non-European Jews, and these came mostly from Muslim countries. The myth of the European Zionist invasion is mostly a myth, although there is some truth at the core. The myth also ignores the fact that Jews have lived continuously in what is now Israel for 3,700 years. Muhammad met them on his way to the Temple Mount.
That nasty gabbard person torpedoed Harris. I believe that I remarked here at the time that we’d just seen the Harris campaign sink. Or words to that effect. It was like watching a wildlife show, in which the orca takes a Harley Davidson-sized chunk out of the humpback whale.
So, gabbard may very well have hurt Warren at the same time. That seems doubly unfair.
Ticket Balancing
Biden/Abrams (gender, region, race, generation) or Biden/Castro. (region, race, generation)
Warren/Castro (gender, region, ‘race’, generation) or Warren/Beto (gender, region, generation)
Veeps choices ought to come from the list of the unemployed.
We would welcome a post for tomorrow.
I glanced over WaPo today. I have SFB fatigue. No matter what he says, to distract , I haven’t forgotten. I want to see his birth certificate, the long form: public school transcripts, the long forms his college transcripts, the long forms: and his tax records, the long forms!
Poobah, your wish…
“I have SFB fatigue.”
We’re all there with you. I feel it’s my patriotic duty to refute every dumb and dangerous thing he says and “tweets”, but who has that kind of time?
”I believe that I remarked here at the time that we’d just seen the Harris campaign sink”
…i said it first!?
Harris had a weak debate regardless of Gabbard’s challenge. If you can’t take the heat, get off the stage.
…and Gabbard did nothing to Harris that Harris didn’t do to Biden in the debate before that.
(I’ll concede it’s difficult to have a strong showing in a debate when said stage is shared with 113 other candidates.)
I think Castro is the bottom of the ticket, no matter the top billing. I like Warren more and more. Williamson is just too deep for politics. Politics is all about bandages and she’s about cures. That’ll never work in the real world.
Warren/Castro.
Bink, “…but who has that kind of time? Exactly! I also am weary of hearing the name Epstein.
1. I subscribe to Mr Bink’s post of 7:16pm, although I could have sworn there were more than 113 candidates.
2. a. The racist, rapist, tax fraudist, bank fraudist, child abuser, russian puppet has declared himself to be ‘The Chosen One,’ apparently appointed by heaven to raise tariff taxes on American consumers of Chinese goods.
2. b. The racist, rapist, tax etc etc calls Jews disloyal and proclaims himself chosen. Time for everyone to pick up and read Revelation, ‘cuz the nutter is laying the basis for a ‘not guilty by reason of insanity (aka diminished responsibility) plea in answer to the hundreds of criminal charges that will be brought against him, and this gambit is modeled on that book.
Craig, I sent you one too, now one more and you can take the rest of the week off.
Jack
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