And Now It Begins

Tonight’s debate begins a new and final phase to the most bizarre presidential election I’ve ever seen. Will it be a reboot, or more of the same? Here’s our debate party thread.

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Author: craigcrawford

Trail Mix Host. Lapsed journalist, author & retired pundit happily promoting nothing but the truth for Social Security checks.

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Blonde Wino
8 years ago

train wreck begins…keep an eye on trump’s hands.  Craig, as a woman, if Clinton had backed out of the debate?  Political suicide.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Speaking of hands, MSNBC just flashed a picture of Hillary debate coach Philippe Reines waving that Donald finger to thumb gesture & face pursed smirk that I find so nauseating.  

 

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

While we wait…debategate.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Interesting tidbit though I’m not sure who decides these things:

The Doomsday Clock is at 3 min to midnight, as close as it has been per http://thebulletin.org/timeline. If Trump wins it moves to 1 min.

Jamie44
8 years ago

The game should you choose to participate

mamaknows
mamaknows
8 years ago

Sorry Craig, I agree Wino 100%, I agree the media would have gone crazy, but can you imagine what Trump and his pundits would be saying “If she can’t handle a debate with Donald Trump, she cannot handle the presidency!” They would keep this mantra up until election day.

Flatus
8 years ago

This campaign finale is not nearly so dramatic/toxic as Dewey v Truman in ’48. The hero won.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Chris Matthews just uttered one of my nails on blackboard assumptions.  i.e. it counts against HIllary because more than 2/3 of the country thinks we are going in the wrong direction.

Why do media types always assume that those people are upset with Liberals.  Couldn’t at least half of them be pissed at GOP doing nothing to help regular people?

 

tony
8 years ago

I agree, Hillary had to do it. As a women she would have been smeared with to weak (sick) to face her opponent.

Craig,

I do think your probably correct though, don’t see how it can be considered a win for her if he just keeps his cool and doesn’t implode.. Now on issues and knowledge she wins but do the media or his supporters care who knows the facts?

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

trump wants to undo the entire Obama years and Clinton is more of the same, tonight she has to convince fringe deplorables that her America wants them, too.  She has the sane humans who have families and concerns about the stability of the future, her loyal supporters…she has to be prez for all.  She is correct about the deplorables, however, but she killed her lead by talking about them.  I still think a big donor asked her to say it.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Because MSNBC went to him briefly for a comment.  I can’t watch CNN tonight because they have that horrendous “fight club” music as if this were a sporting event.  Since it’s no commercial interruption, I don’t need to switch to C-SPAN.  I am keeping Twitter open for running remarks.

 

Jamie44
8 years ago

Jill Stein escorted off debate premises http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/297876-green-party-nominee-escorted-off-debate-premises#.V-nA5g9DK-Q.twitter

tony
8 years ago

Yes, Jamie, let Trump make you see red.. Tweety off! Craig good one, nut job fits..

tony
8 years ago

Jill Stein

Another nut job :0)

Jamie44
8 years ago

Craig Crawford – They don’t want partisan demonstrations.  It gets in the way of learning stuff.

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Clinton should have binge-watched the Celebrity Apprentice this weekend for debate prep.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Except for invited guests, they are all students of the college.  It is a learning experience not a circus.  Oxford has been doing debates for centuries.  We can manage a few nights without being dumbed down into oblivion.

 

Jamie44
8 years ago

Here we go.

 

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Holt appears nervous.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Unfortunately, the low info GOP voters dumped this monstrosity on the country and we are stuck with rules as usual.  She is not allowed to break rules and no one insists that he follow them.  Decidedly double standard.

 

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

Hi guys. I’m  here for the Grub!   ?

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

I am so embarrassed that she has to stand next to that fool!

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Hola, Sheila.  Red looks good with the background.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Hi Sheila / OD

He’s already fidgeting.  It’s going to be a long 90 minutes.

 

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

thanks Craig!

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

trump stump speech with soft voice

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

trump is snorting…ronald reagan name invoked.

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

He’s empty too

Jamie44
8 years ago

She did specific.  He did his stump speech.

tony
8 years ago

Hey Sheila

Eat up ♡

Jamie44
8 years ago

Craig are you watching the same debate?

 

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

Hey Tony. Im grubing on chinese

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

Trump says the same 4th grade repeats

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

still snorting…holt?

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Trump spent two minutes not answering the question…

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

They’re leaving and they’re leaving and they’re leaving.

Jamie44
8 years ago

And we have to stop them from leaving.

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

We are only a few minutes in and he couldn’t help but interrupt her…

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Hola OD!

tony
8 years ago

Yes, she’s under his skin about hI’m making money off real estate collapse

tony
8 years ago

Hi OD

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

trump fact checking!

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Tony…are you out there???

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Hi Tony…

Bink
8 years ago

Taking the bait, amateur hour, 😛

 

I better not back-read this thread later and see a certain someone drawing false equilvalencies, o_O

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

He’s blanket  blaming her for everything

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

rude pout face on trump

whskyjack
8 years ago

Mrs Jack  thinks Trump is on coke, all his actions say so.

 

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Jesus forking Christ. Is anyone buying this bullSHIT?

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Snap!  Laugh at donald!

Bink
8 years ago

“Semi-exact” -new TRumpism, actual quote.

sjwny
8 years ago

No Coke.

Pepsi.

 

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

He’s going for her throat…can she with stand his crap?

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Trump is in jackass mode full force…

Jamie44
8 years ago

Yes Trump did call climate change a hoax http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/03/hillary-clinton/yes-donald-trump-did-call-climate-change-chinese-h/

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

is holt there?

Bink
8 years ago

Remember my rule?  Most people against TPP don’t understand it.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Jesus Hillary,  did love the own reality comment.but it’s official  – Lester’s a pussy. (Apologies to anyone who this offeds)

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Did he call her Missy…

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

Come on Clinton!!  ZING HIM

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Trump is a full of shit and she is calling him on it

I think this a bad night for Trump so far

sjwny
8 years ago

I cower under Bink’s spooky scary eye-thingy symbol.

Jamie44
8 years ago

He’s doing the hand thing again.

Bink
8 years ago

Hopefully the rest of America isn’t is as enamoured by bullies as you, Craig.  A temperament not fit for office.

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

You have been fighting Isis y our whole adult life…what a nut…

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

screams from the crowd…trump crossed the line…he is getting hyper.

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

His old trickle down won’t work

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Trump lying like a rug   post debate spin will be most important

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

Jack’s wife is on to something…he seems like the classic coke head.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

All the sniffing indicates something

but I could not disagree with Craig more ..he sounds crazier than usual

tony
8 years ago

Bink

You bet he’s a bully..  Lester is a big nothing.. At least he won’t offend.. I despice him.

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

she is doing a better job against trump than any of his repug challengers.

Bink
8 years ago

“Hillary has lost the first 20 minutes of this debate, that usually sets the result.”

 

-you’re out-of-touch.

Dude is a child.

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

I don’t think she lost the first 20 Craig….  He’s a bully and he showed it. He’s a blanket blamer….

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

after another woman….Yellen….he is hysterical.

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

the tax question??

tony
8 years ago

Trump is a brut… Not diplomatic. .it shows, he lost..

Chef Sheila
8 years ago

TAXES. WHERE’S THE TAX RETURNS

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

9:24 p.m. Now he’s talking and shouting over the moderator. He’s out of control. “She’s been fighting ISIS her entire adult life”? Again, what is he talking about?

Andrew Sullivan

9:27 p.m. I can’t quite understand what he’s talking about. And what strikes me is his insistence on shouting over her. He will not let her answer – but she has not told him to stop interrupting.

9:30 p.m. He’s now full bonkers – attacking the Federal Reserve. And then repeating the absurd lie that he cannot release his tax returns because of an audit. He’s just doubling down on the bullshit. If this performance works, it’s the end of any kind of rational discourse in a liberal democrac

mamaknows
mamaknows
8 years ago

Thanks Bink, exactly what I was thinking, Craig, what the hell is going on with you?

 

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

craig…are you giving the deplorable read on the first twenty?

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

you do not like her Craig…I really do not see it, but what matters is that you do.

Onward…don’t eat too much.

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

I am really enjoying this…

jace
8 years ago

Hillary just kicked his ass on his tax returns.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

take a tour around the blogosphere he is not winning

jace
8 years ago

if you don’t learn much from tax returns, why not release them?

jace
8 years ago

Must have missed some of those third world airports.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Holy Cow Craig what are you seeing.

His constant interruptions, his lying, the smirking, Jesus.  She has his ass in a sling.

tony
8 years ago

Hillary

Really is killing it. You tell him Hillary. .

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

This is going quickly…

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Trump is doing much more poorly than I expected…

jace
8 years ago

Just took down his business acumen. Take advantage of laws that allow him to screw people.

tony
8 years ago

Wow, she really drew him out into crazy town.. The guy is temperamentaly unfit. We see that Donald.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

from around Facebook

Most of the focus from the media has been on whether The Giant Orange Carny could maintain his composure during tonight’s debate. So far he appears to be in typical rude and physically overactive form. The snorting is a nice touch.

jace
8 years ago

Holt is a dud, not really a surprise.

jace
8 years ago

The race question should have been HRC’s wheelhouse, but she is not selling the answer. This was a fastball down the middle of the plate she should have knocked it out of the park. Damn!

tony
8 years ago

Jace

Agreed, Holt is a dud.. So far the debate has surprised me. A good showcase for Hrc. Trump has shown himself an undiplomatic bully. Good night so far

tony
8 years ago

Oh Trump just said “a judge a very against judges”

Bink
8 years ago

Don’t be “condescending”, Craig. 😛

 

Honestly, I can’t take you seriously if you are comfortable asserting Trump is winning.  Sorry 🙁

 

Take care, brush your hair.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

I guess the voters just like assholes. Because that’s what Trump is doing. He is showing that he’s nothing more than a sold not a single fucking figure at his finger to back up his bullshit.” A beautiful thing. ” WTF does THAT mean?He’s  just blabbering.

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

In less than 5 minutes, Donald could not control his revolting behavior…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

again post debate fact checking will be the most important

the Clinton spin room better be whirling dervishes and the media better do its damn job

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

She is more presidential

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Craig…she is letting the jackass bray…hope I spelled bray correctly…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

He is nodding agreement with her – she is crushing him

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Where is Craig…someone has taken over his keyboard…call 911…

Jamie44
8 years ago

Craig

I have faith the change voters aren’t idiots.  Quite frankly, I don’t think you are watching non partisan simply because the general agreement everywhere (other than right wing commentators) is that she is totally in control and he looks like a fool.

 

jace
8 years ago

This is why the debate was a bad idea for HRC you can’t trump bullshit with policy positions.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

She is making him look like the uninformed hot head he is

tony
8 years ago

Kgc

Agreed, she has crushed  him. Trumps so called message is bluster and bullying.

jace
8 years ago

When did Trump meet any reporters that were ‘highly respected’?

Pogeaux
8 years ago

I think I’ve developed great relationships with the African American community.   Right. I think you can look around and see it.  Right.  I’m guessing you can’t see it in the African American community.

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

One thing that surprises me is that Don has no new material…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

he is  Mr Bluster

NATE SILVER 10:02 PM
We’re a bit more than halfway through, and I’m deliberately trying not to do much theater criticism, but if you buy the notion that candidates’ body language betrays their confidence level, it’s remarkable how much stiller Clinton is than Trump, whereas Trump is flailing around a lot more. To me — and evidently to betting markets — that reads as confidence amid a strong performance, but we’ll see what the voters think.

Bink
8 years ago

“Sorry, Blink, i don’t watch these things based on what i want to see”

Apparently, you do.

 

Let’s leave it there.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Cyber security.   Let’s see what happens with this topic.

mamaknows
mamaknows
8 years ago

OD, thanks for the laugh!

Ping Pong
Ping Pong
8 years ago

Oh my, Trump is really stinking up the stage

This my fellow Craig list fellows is simply embarrassing

I throw in the towel

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Lessee, the issue is cyber security. .  His answer is admirals, generals and ICE (or was that ISIS?). Excuse me… i call bullshit.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

More from the 538 staff blog

FARAI CHIDEYA 10:10 PM

Trump said, during a longer exchange over the birther claims that President Obama was not born in the United States, “When you talk about healing, I think that I’ve developed very very good relationships, over the last little while, with the African-American community.”
Actually, Trump’s favorability ratings among African-Americans compare — unfavorably — with bedbugs. He told Bryant Gumbel in 1989, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. … If I was starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really do believe they have the actual advantage today,” and he’s made many other racially questionable remarks between that year and today. This election season, while Trump has focused his attacks on Muslims and Mexicans, black Americans don’t seem to be buying what he’s selling.

Bink
8 years ago

Thank you for your honesty, Ping.

Bink
8 years ago

Even Trump thinks HRC would be a better president, lol.

Jamie44
8 years ago

He just lied about ICE endorsement.  Government agents can’t endorse.  He was endorsed by a union that represents a small percentage of ICE employees.  Vast difference.

The Fact Checkers are going to go crazy tomorrow.  He has been one lie, exaggeration, and distortion after another.

 

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Ping, do I detect a bit of sarcasm?

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Mama…you are welcome…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Ping

Well there is always Gary Johnson

 

what’s up with the sniffing?

jace
8 years ago

Pogo,

I guess he can see the African American community from his front porch.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Hey, dumb-ass, Obama and Clinton did not go into Iraq. That was some asshole idiot that we refer to as Shrub.

Ping Pong
Ping Pong
8 years ago

I am gagging over some of her statements but he is such a failure that he should be kicking her &%÷#\

Gary Johnson?

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Jace, no.  He can see Harlem from his penthouse.

whskyjack
8 years ago

“he’s doing a better job of attracting change voters”

Good, except for right wing Republicans this isn’t a change election. Over and over the incumbents are winning. The Senate probably won’t change hands because of it.

Jack.

 

Jamie44
8 years ago

Thank you Ping

I know that was difficult for you.  I just wished some GOP friends of mine better luck with a better candidate in 2020 no matter how this election goes.

jace
8 years ago

Just take the oil, even if it doesn’t belong to us. Talk about winning friends and influencing enemies.  Jesus Donald, that’s a winning formula! For fuck sake!!!

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

I encourage Trump supporters to vote for anyone other than Don…

Jamie44
8 years ago

From Chef Sheila’s Facebook page:

I’m officially done with the “she’s so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils” rhetoric. Cause, you know,
I’m flawed. And you are flawed.
And Bernie Sanders is flawed
and Barack Obama is flawed 
and even Michelle Obama is flawed.

But the difference between all of them and me–and probably you, is that they have all given their flawed lives to public service. And now, they are all working together in their inevitably flawed ways, to save all of us, and the whole world from a sociopathic narcissist.
And every day, Hillary puts a hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest on her flawed and aging and sometimes unsmiling self and stands up in front of people who have been incited by her opponent to shoot her, and she says calm and rational and intelligent (and sometimes flawed) things about how to make a difference. In my book that makes her a rock star.
And in the words of another flawed and resilient rock star. There is a crack in everything. That’s where the light gets in.
Pam Houston
United States Citizen

Sturgeone
8 years ago

SNL will hit The Sniffing

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Is he taking credit for NATO “opening” a terror, what, division? Honest to god.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

The audience is laughing at his temperament comment.

“WHEW,  okay.”  That was beautiful.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Live Fact Check from NPR http://www.npr.org/2016/09/26/495115346/fact-check-first-presidential-debate

tony
8 years ago

Oh I’m so glad Hillary debated Trump..She stood tall to a bully..Trump is bat shit crazy.. It won’t matter to Trumps supporters but hopefulliy it will to enough women and young people. .

Bink
8 years ago

I am going to spam this forum with literal nonsense for an hour and a half.  By Craig’s logic, I will be the most successful participant in this thread.  Here I go, start your watches…

 

Blah blah blah, “I say nothing”.  “Semi-exact”.  “I didn’t pay federal taxes because I’m smart”.  “It’s all words”.  Blah blah blah…

Bink
8 years ago

“Why the hell they gave him this platform is beyond me.”

 

Um, because the Republicans nominated him for POTUS?

Pogeaux
8 years ago

This is aimed at the 15% in the middle who will go to one of the 4 candidates, not at me, not at you.  The $64,000 question is what do they see?

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Great night…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 10:22 PM

Twitter can’t stop talking about Donald Trump’s #sniffles. It’s a good reminder that flu season is upon us. Also, climate change, which is real, is making pollen and allergies worse.

MJ
MJ
8 years ago

Hillary could have defeated Isis by never letting it get going in the first place.  I bet she is kicking herself now that Trump has pointed that out.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

He can’t answer the question.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

STamina.  … God save us.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Better when it comes to being in charge of our nuclear weapons:
Trump 25%
Clinton 51%
(NBC/WSJ, RV)#debatenighthttp://j.mp/1NND0im 

7:27 PM – 26 Sep 2016

mamaknows
mamaknows
8 years ago

Thank God Hillary is not drinking water like the Donald, otherwise the media would be saying she is still not feeling good. So glad she is so strong tonight, physically and so presidential.

Tony, got to get the picture of Hillary that you have in your front window, thanks for sharing.

sjwny
8 years ago

This is aimed at the 15% in the middle …”

Pogo,

Believe you are correct. Judging from the people I know, work with, work for & take care of, their decision may not be made until November 8th.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

DAVID FIRESTONE 10:37 PM

It’s kind of surprising that Clinton isn’t reacting with a little disbelief to these long rambling not-quite-coherent answers from Trump, which seem designed to persuade listeners that he has something to say about a subject without quite saying anything. As in, “Donald, I have no idea what you just said.”

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Craig,  you’ve got more history with this than i.  I know what I see.  An assholian and a serious candidate.   He would  be a disaster  as president.   As I said, god help us.

MJ
MJ
8 years ago

Graham Cracker I totally agree …. so many times I was wanting her to say “I have no idea what he is saying …. some of his sentences just don’t make sense!_

 

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Interesting night…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Tweety thinks she KO’d Trump

MJ
MJ
8 years ago

commentator on NBC “his face and demeanor were indecipherable from a Sat night live skit”

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Tweety called it a 5-0 shutout for Hillary.  Steve Schmidt said Hillary looked terrific, trump looked like he was between incoherent and babbling.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

MJ, LOL.

Sturgeone
8 years ago

Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
58m

Hillary Clinton has had the best debate training I’ve seen in years… She knows when to attack and when to explain. #DebateNight

View details ·    

 

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

He got tired in the second half– couldn’t get in a line during the debate sniff sniff

sjwny
8 years ago

Now is the time to turn off the TV, radio, etc where the spin-meisters & pundits roost. Trust yourself & your intelligence. You’re smarter, better & prettier than they are anyway.

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Even Nicolle Wallace gives it to Hillary.   He is a protest vote in and of itself.

Sturgeone
8 years ago


Paul Begala
@PaulBegala
7m

So much for my theory that Trump would be sedated. He looked like he’d had seven cups of coffee.

sjwny
8 years ago

3…2…1…. Who will be the first 400lb computer hacker to make the rounds tomorrow morning?

 

Sturgeone
8 years ago


The Daily Edge
@TheDailyEdge
11m

Trump walked into so many traps tonight. Not a good look for a would-be Commander-in-Chief #debates #debatenighttwitter.com/PolitiFact/sta…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

All America will be sniffin’ tomorrow

Sturgeone
8 years ago

I trash luntz, but not begala……lol

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

oh Craig  just quoting people you like to prove the point to you

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

young people we know thought she did well

jace
8 years ago

I’m trying to figure out what demographic(s) will be more favorable to Trump after tonight than they were before? Women, African American, Hispanic, oh perhaps Muslims, or college educated? Just can’t find one. Hillary might have done better, but there was no game changer for the Donald tonight.

He fired his biggest guns to little effect.

sjwny
8 years ago

Going out on a limb here …. but the pro-Republican Nominee folks will say he won & the pro-Democratic Nominee folks will say she won. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

(And psst… the sun will rise in the east, the Pope is Catholic & Francisco Franco is still dead.)

Jamie44
8 years ago

Summarizing tonight’s debate

 

Pogeaux
8 years ago

I’m reporting what I’m hearing.  Those are the MSNBC token Repugs.  Christie showed as the FATuos ASS he is. Even Chuckie gave it to Hillary.

Craig,  you and Mike Murphy agree about the 1st 20 minutes.  So far no one has given trump the edge.

whskyjack
8 years ago

I’m sure Trump was a hit at the Frat house, I’m jut not sure how many frat boys vote.

Trump looked bizarre and didn’t look like a person who could lead this country.

I think Trump did a good job of solidifying the women’s vote for HRC.

Best post game comment was by Brokaw about Trumps walk through  the spin room. Paraphrase

That was not a Trump who was confident he had won”

And he was right Trump didn’t look cocky as he does when he is on top

Jack

jace
8 years ago

The fact checkers are already hard at work, and Donald isn’t faring all that well. Guessing the next debate will be all about the ‘tall tales’ he told in this debate.

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

even republicans thought it was bad

sjwny
8 years ago

Still think the most important question asked of any candidate would be: Name your Mayor, State Senator & Congressional Representative.

Bink
8 years ago

Quote from an 18 year old friend: “Trump sounded like me in political science class trying to bullshit my way through an essay.”

 

 

whskyjack
8 years ago

HRC did what she needed to do.

Stick to her talking points aimed at her target audience

Don’t let Trump rattle her into something stupid

Don’t get down in the mud with him

She did all of that.

Jack

 

Pogeaux
8 years ago

Carville sez she was solid, knowledgeable, well spoken. What came across was how awful he was.

Craig, we’ll see what the polls do. Maybe you’re right.  I don’t think so, but I think I’ve been wrong before. .. once … maybe.

jace
8 years ago

Sadly for Donald the debate lasted 90 minutes not 20. Oh those pesky tax returns, and bankruptcies. Sorry Donald. Screwing someone just because it’s legal, doesn’t make them any less screwed, nor do they find it any less humiliating.

whskyjack
8 years ago

Funny as always how pundits and fact checkers choose the debate losers.

That is for certain in the past, but I was hearing large numbers being tossed around about viewers. So it may be different this time.

 

Jack

jace
8 years ago

Face it, Trump learned what he knows about debating during the republican debates. Not a very high bar in retrospect.

Hillary has slugged it out over the years with some rather capable opponents. Experience pays off.

sjwny
8 years ago

Feeling disappointed: if the Debates were going to draw Super Bowl ratings, then why no razzle-dazzle halftime show? No wardrobe malfunctions?

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

even republicans thought it was bad

and not just pundits think he sucked ..lots of people in general thought he was bad

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

I guess that makes up for the CNN poll that shows Trump winning
based on a sample of voters that favors trump and no one thinks is accurate

whskyjack
8 years ago

Trump did his best to try and rattle Clinton and except for one brief moment, he failed. But he really got frustrated about it at the last.

Jack

eProf2
8 years ago

Grading on a curve: Clinton, B+; Trump, D.

tony
8 years ago

Thanks Pogo, Jack, Sturg for letting us know what some of the other media types had to say…

tony
8 years ago

Oh man

Oregon Democrat
Oregon Democrat
8 years ago

Howard Fineman…”the worst debate performance ever”…

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Trump had his twitter army calling and posting into online polls but even Truly Julieannie admitted trump lost and suggested that Trump skip the next debates…..

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

as for the media  even a broken clock is right twice a day

tony
8 years ago

“Funny. What happened to the griping about the supposedly anti-Clinton media?”

Craig

This has nothing to do with the media’s overall performance which has been poor in regards to Hillary and most everything else.

You used to know that before your tango with Mr. Webb.

Hell, if you hadn’t have known that all those years ago and been so different than the MSM i sure as hell wouldn’t have been at your blog back then.

I stick around now because i care about you and all the people here. I’m not here because of your coverage of the 2016 election because in my mind you really haven’t covered it. If your retired from journalism and this is all just about personal opinion (yours as well as ours), ok… Your def entitled to that. Although, I’m simply very concerned how someone with your unique journalistic abilities could change so much? If i’ve overstepped my apologies..

 

 

Sturgeone
8 years ago

Jerry Springer 
@jerryspringer

Hillary Clinton belongs in the White House. Donald Trump belongs on my show.

7:55 PM – 26 Sep 2016