China has gobbled up our manufacturing jobs, and it looks like we’ll never get them back. Next in their crosshairs: White Collar Jobs.
Our education deficit vs. China is about to pay them dividends:
“In the last decade, China has produced close to 60 million college graduates. By 2030, the World Bank expects there to be up to 200 million — more than the entire U.S. workforce. They’ll join those from India and Latin America in an increasingly crowded global market for brainpower. … From crunching the numbers behind a trading desk, to writing code, to reviewing X-rays — some of the work is already being outsourced and more will be.”
— Chicago Tribune
so that’s what’s happened to congress!!! they outsourced themselves to china.
perhaps, if critterville had made it less attractive for American corps to shun their country and for billionaires to avoid paying taxes, some of this might not have happened. and maybe if state/local folks believed enough in the value of an educated populace to pay for it, some of this might not have happened.
ultimately, the blame for this mess falls squarely on us the citizens who didn’t/don’t care to take their responsibilities seriously enough to do something about our lackluster, lazy legislators.
may I remind the trail of our laziest senate in history: Mitch McConnell has taken the Republicans in the Senate from not doing their jobs to not even bothering to show up for work.
What I see in everyday life: Buffalo is home to great institutions of higher learning. Due to the proximity of my job to these Universities, I interact with students from all over the world. Many of these young people are from China. I am thankful they patronize my business & spend their money on the products we sell.
We offer a store loyalty card for discounts. Applying is easy: name & address. Whenever I get an application from a Chinese person I never fail to notice how legible their handwriting is in comparison to “American” students & that heck, English is completely foreign to Chinese characters. Yet these students took the time, applied themselves to learn. American parents should take a page from their Chinese counterparts & give a damn about education, literacy. This isn’t a political issue as much as an issue of pride & priorities. It begins from within. It begins in the home.
Finally we have proof. Donald Trump truly is a “short-fingered vulgarian” … Left Donald. Right Bernie Sanders. Bernie definitely wins this one. Apparently fingers of reasonable length cut down on foul mouthed invective.
craig, just noticed your “attack the messenger: how politicians turn you against the media” to the right of the comment box. now that you’ve had a lot of experience on both sides of the track, how about writing “how the media turn you against politicians”? fun little anecdotes that may be very relevant in this election (starting with your former boss).
Purple….I cuss a lot but I’m no professor……I only know what I know……from 2007 to 2011 or so there was NO work.and I had to sell everything I could lay my hands on just to have hot dogs for supper now and then……now I’m working my ass off, and gas is cheap…….
that’s quite selfish, I’m sure, but that’s what I know…..
oops that job is gone ,already been automated, poor Chinese.
Jack
The Racist Side of Bernie Sanders Supporters
Kelli Goff
John Dickerson and Stephen Colbert on politics and the press |It wasn’t all political. In their conversation Wednesday night at the 92nd Street Y in New York, John Dickerson and Stephen Colbert even discussed their breakfast routines and morning reads. Dickerson and Colbert took questions from the audience — some of their answers may surprise you.
Rachel Maddow did a great job last night showing how outmoded the method to keep tack of emails actually was:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/clinton-e-mail-report-shows-broken-it-system-693093443953
It was the only reasonable defense I’ve seen of just why all Secretaries of State followed up until Kerry. Basically, she did nothing “criminal”. At worst you get to “naughty naughty shouldn’t have done that”.
Is Kenneth Starr, Historic Sleazeball, At Last Getting His Just Deserts?
A good Christian’s incredible hypocrisy may finally be catching up to him.
Michael Tomasky
This should make interesting reading. Documents the “vast right wing conspiracy” which is definitely a real thing. Free E-Book: The Hunting of Hillary
Jamie, that maddow story about email goes along with what pbs reported yesterday
In a report released Wednesday, nonpartisan congressional investigators found that about three-fourths of the $80 billion budget goes to keep aging technology running, and the increasing cost is shortchanging modernization.
The White House has been pushing to replace workhorse systems that date back more than 50 years in some cases. But the government is expected to spend $7 billion less on modernization in 2017 than in 2010, said the Government Accountability Office.
also a good deal of gov’t work is slower than private sector because very little if anything is budgeted for newer technology. some of tsa’s problem is for that reason.
speaking of the tsa mess, how can congress with a straight face hold tsa up for ridicule about not doing its job when congress hasn’t done theirs for quite sometime?
PiT
Raw numbers are like raw food.
A great chef can make a feast for the senses, where as an incompetent cook can take the same food and create an inedible mess.
The thing I have noticed about the charts from the St Louis fed is that they do a quick reliable demonstration of basic economic phenomena. Whether we are talking about Labor participation rates as you were or manufacturing jobs, as Jamie was.
They do make it harder to jump up and down screaming in faux anger.
Basically because that is a trick for the ignorant.
One other problem with raw data is the “figure paradox”, in that “figures don’t lie but liars sure as hell figure”
One other thing, and I will move on, I’m a bit old fashion but when one lifts a whole sentence from someone else’s work It is my belief that one should put that material in quotation marks and give attribution. It prevents confusion
but as I said I’m a bit old fashion that way.
Jack
salon:
The Dems’ lethal weapon: Elizabeth Warren is the only Democrat that can cut Donald Trump down to size
It is hard to understate how smartly Warren is playing this game, even if you cynically assume her recent attacks on Trump are solely about positioning herself to become the leading candidate to run as Clinton’s vice president. (Which is not an assumption I’m making.) But so far, she is doing a better job of drawing a contrast between what the two parties stand for, or at least could stand for in terms of fighting for economic justice for working- and middle-class Americans, than any other public figure. Including Bernie Sanders, whose campaign in recent days seems to have devolved mostly into arguments about process and flipping superdelegates at the convention in Philadelphia this summer.
Warren’s genius lies in her ability to take big concepts and distil them down into simple goals for Americans, such as being able to buy their own homes, send their kids to college, and participate in what used to quaintly be called the American Dream. She’s not stoking anger in service of demanding we overturn the established order. What the people want, she seems to say, is their own share, for which they have worked and saved and fought. What they want is their own little corner within the system, with reasonable economic security and access to the tools that help make that possible.
Just a reminder to consider during this latest round of attacks on Hillary Clinton
patd,
As a Warren supporter, I applaud the good press she is getting (well deserved) but have to ask … how is this playing in the Clinton Camp (internally). Great to see unity; may it continue & grow. Just curious if this rankles some of the bigger Staff egos.
Politics. Gotta love it 😉
Craig the Chinese educational system doesn’t allow for enough freedom of thought to truly be a danger
But India…………
Jack
sjwny
Warren is a great champion for liberal pov in economics and for her political career it is helpful that she is not like most of the males that seem to become spokes men for the cause. , a dweeb or an abrasive jackass.
She almost looks normal.
Jack
whskyjack,
I believe Senator Warren is as normal as they come.
Btw, Hope you are feeling better.
The beauty of Warren is that she is not acting as a Clinton surrogate, but rather as an independent operator with a rather large following.
Her twitter offensive is not aimed at supporting any candidate, but rather pointing out the absurdity of Trump. Any time that Trump has to spend responding to Warren is time he can’t spend attacking Clinton. If Elizabeth Warren is the story of the day, it means that Trump isn’t.
sjwny, I think the Hillary camp welcomes any serious scrutiny of drumpf”s sins, misspeaks and misdeeds from anybody and especially from media darlings like warren and bernie. too bad she’s in a goper gov state or she would surely be top of list for veeper. can’t afford to lose good dem senators at this juncture.
Jamie, that fan vid was really good. hope it’s a harbinger of folks coming out of the woodwork who have warm and authentic stories about how she personally touched their lives but took no credit for it nor sought any.
it would be interesting to hear from people like former secdef and her friendly co-traveler bob gates and other gopers she’s had good close relations working with.
Sanders Isn’t Doing Well With True Independents
Sanders did slightly better with Democratic-leaning independents (71 percent favorable) than he did with plain-old Democrats (68 percent favorable), but that appeal does not seem to extend to true independents — those who are most likely to change party allegiances between elections and whose split between the Republican and Democratic candidates nearly matched the split in the nation overall in the last two elections, according to the ANES. In the Gallup poll, Sanders had a 35 percent favorable rating among independents who don’t lean toward either party. Clinton’s favorable rating with that group was 34 percent. Trump’s was a ridiculously low 16 percent.
One could argue that Sanders has greater potential with these true independents than Clinton: Just 63 percent of them had formed an opinion of him, according to the Gallup poll, while 83 percent had done so for Clinton. But it’s also possible that these true independents will turn against him in greater numbers as they learn more about him.
Jack,
I learned from the St. Louis Fed how to incorporate the recession data from the National Bureau of Economic Research into MS Excel charts like the chart attached.
I got degrees in Math (applied math, i.e. Statistics) and Economics in the mid-1960s. One of the first things I was taught about Statistics is that you can just about prove any position you want. Economics has completely changed.
I believe that the Keynesian Economic Model has never been allowed to continue to its proper conclusion. I was amazed this year when my grandson, ME168, took AP Government and that concept was stated in his AP book. Must have been written by another Keynesian.
What I learned from my time with a consulting company was to find out what result the client wants then work to prove that result. That makes for a satisfied client. Is it the correct way to work? No.
Sturgeone,
That is not selfish, that is survival. I have been there. I was laid off at 61 along with 8,000 other people because the company was caught doing illegal things. They were fined almost a billion dollars so they got rid of a lot of people. I was a VP but not even offered any package, just out after 17 years. The CEO was fired but he walked away with $37 million.
sjwny,
I am also a Warren supporter. I would love to see Warren as Clinton’s VP. BUT, Warren and Clinton is like mixing oil and water, they don’t mix!
Just in case you need to loan one to a passing politician.
bloomberg:
Politics are so different in Europe and in the U.S. that analogies usually look contrived. Yet the demographics of those who support right-wing populists are strikingly similar on both sides of the Atlantic.
[….]
Both Trump and Hofer command majorities among men but not among women, among less-educated voters but not among more-educated ones, and both do better with the over-50 crowd than with millennials.
Based on the Austrian election results and on recent U.S. polling data, Trump and Hofer do well in rural areas and small towns, but they lose in the big cities.
Speculating why nativist, politically incorrect politicians appeal to roughly the same demographic base everywhere is fruitless. The reasons could be economic (the effects of globalization and the technological revolution), purely cultural (some areas are historically more xenophobic than others) or attitudinal (women tend to be less inclined toward simple, hard-line solutions than men do). Whatever the underlying cause, the demographics suggest that if the right-wing populists don’t win now, it will be too late.
The biggest problems with Warren as VP isn’t the oil / water thing. WH teams have made that work before. Warren has repeatedly said she doesn’t want the job so unless there is a mind change and she is auditioning, that’s a no go from the beginning. Second, she is desperately needed in the Senate particularly in one that might come under Democratic control. Third, she has a GOP governor. If she left the Senate, it would probably mean an GOP appointee for the remainder of her term.
I love the lady, but she needs to stay right where she is.
I think Hillary should stay out of any debate between rump and Bernie let it go forward.
Jeff Weaver on with Mrs Greenspan did not use the email issue no matter what Mrs G did
I think it would be very revealing event
My guess is such a debate would involve the crucifixion of Hillary–a job requiring two driven males, each wielding hammers.
Flatus
I disagree I think they would concentrate on each other and it would be a big distraction from her current problems
Time will tell. Trump certainly has no concept of elder abuse being an undesirable American trait.
wsj’s wash. wire: Trump v. Sanders Debate? Don’t Start Popping the Popcorn Just Yet
MSNBC is going all out Hate Hillary while Trumpeting Trump mode today. They are being as discreet about it as Trumps commentary on Muslims.
At least CNN allows an occasional stray positive if quickly squelched comment to sneak in between full coverage of Trump and Bernie braying to the crowds.
The best chopsticks are made in Georgia take that China
Recanvass shows no change in Kentucky primary results
according to harry and nate at 538:
The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders
Clinton’s winning because more Democrats want her to be the nominee.
Let’s challenge the Washington St caucus– basis is flagrant breach of etiquette if not rules and/or law. Remedy is to accept the results of the Primary as being the Will of the People. Realign delegates to reflect that fact–before the Convention.
Pogo,
On January 20, 2009 Cushing, OK WTI Spot Price FOB was $38.57 a barrel.
Jamie,
You are absolutely correct. Warren is not ready on day 1 to be President and I did forget that she has a GOP governor.
Another Day, Another Indication that the Clinton Campaign Remains Dangerously Clueless About What Will Matter Most in the General Election. Ho-hum.
Posted on May 26, 2016 by Yves Smith
Yves here. This post puts some meat on an observation made by political scientist Tom Ferguson months ago: that the strategy that Clinton was using to win the Democratic party nomination, that of heavy reliance on identity politics, would be a loser in the general election. Beverly Mann describes how Team Clinton seems unable to change course. And she makes an additional astute point: it isn’t just that Hillary is a terrible candidate. She is a terrible campaigner. In other words, her defects in how she comes off aren’t simply those of not having charisma or being able to fake enjoying pressing the flesh. It’s that she has lousy political instincts, likely reinforced by years of surrounding herself with sycophants.
The relentless focus on lowest common denominator issues also suggests that her campaign holds voters in deep contempt, as incapable of digesting anything other that the political equivalent of raw meat.
By Beverly Mann. Originally published at Angry Bear
Clinton’s aides say they have settled on the big story they want to tell about Trump: He is a business fraud who has cheated working people for his own gain, and his ideas, temperament and moves to marginalize people by race, gender and creed make him simply unacceptable as commander in chief.
– Clinton thinks she knows how to take on Trump. Will it work?, Philip Rucker, Washington Post, today
PiT, the spot price for oil on a given day is misleading and you know that. It was $46.50 on the following Monday – think Obama’s energy policies caused that increase? Six months before the price was over $140.00 per barrel, six months later it was over $70 and gradually moving back to a high of $113 on May 2, 2011, where it hovered between the low $80s to the low $100s until July 2014 when it began to drop to its low of $29 per barrel February 8 this year. It’s rebounded to $48.12. The trend is upward. USEIA sez:
Hard to attribute the oil price to Saudi Arabia when our production is lower. We affect the system just as do the Saudis.
Trump did a 45 minute press conference today. Cannot even remember the last time Hillary did that.
Patd, Actually the publisher of that book asked me to do exactly what you are suggesting but offered no advance. Told him I don’t work for free, considering they never paid me any royalties, only the advance, for that book. Book authors are so screwed in today’s marketplace, unless they’re in it for vanity, which I’m not, just isnt worth the effort. Also doesn’t help that online booksellers like Amazon practically give them away for free as loss leaders to sell toaster. And Google publishes the text for nothing. And the courts let them do it.
Craig
She has done hours of interviews one on one. The big problem is that the news channels train one camera on Bernie or Trump to watch them rant to huge cheering crowds who never talk back. What they don’t do is go to the smaller meetings where she interacts with people in the audience and does it one on one with questions from the people concerned with the issues.
It is simply a different kind of campaigning and probably more expensive to cover since you actually have to move the camera and listen to people.
If you take the time to get on Facebook for instance and read the follow up from people who met her, the words you hear are intelligent, concerned, cared about me, warm, funny etc.
What you get from the cable guys is a whole lot of mansplaining about just how horrid others think she is with all the usual “Clinton history of accusations, supposition, and guilt by association.” I genuinely believe they are not equipped for the potential of a woman President.
Oh and that was not a 46 minute press conference. That was 15 minutes of memorized garbage and ignorance splashed all over courtesy of a 10 year old vocabulary level and attitude to insult, bully, and diminish.
Jamie, one-on-one interviews with hand-picked questioners is not the same thing as a press conference free for all like Trump just did. What the hell is she afraid of?
BTW in case anyone doubted it, the Kentucky recount showed that it was absolutely correct
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/kentucky-recanvass-hillary-clinton-wins-223616
Jamie, by my count he took 18 questions from more than a dozen reporters. Hillary hasnt done anything like that for months. I think she’s good at it. I don’t understand why they keep her in a bubble like they do.
Craig
I’m not talking about one on one hand picked while making canned speeches or talking points. I’m talking about walking through the crowd, talking to everyone there, taking the time to listen to them. Totally interacting with the people in a given group. She does it well, and they love her and she is doing four or five of them a day.
Her style is called a conversation and she is magnificent at it.
There were 18 questions. Unfortunately there were about five answers all of them ignorant or insulting.
Jamie, yakking with sycophants on rope lines or in staged rountables is not the same as taking tough press questions.
Obviously you are not hearing or seeing what I am describing. A room full of people. Not a rope line. Not a meet and greet. People sitting down. Short presentation. Then talking. You know. She speaks. They speak. She responds. They respond. Think of a crowded tea party. Mingling. Women like chatting. You can learn a lot and get a lot done, just chatting if you follow up afterwards and her staff ALWAYS follows up afterwards.
Tough Press questions are fine. Attacks with a negative premise of the “when did you stop beating your wife” angle do not elicit any actual information they just stroke the questioners ego. Maddow got a great Q & A just by talking and it wasn’t soft ball. But there we are back to chatting again. ?
And her staff pre-interviews, chooses the participants. Nothing wrong with that. But why no press conference for at least the past 3 months?
Well if I were her, I wouldn’t be talking to the bastards either. They don’t ask her about issues, positions, policies, etc. They don’t want information or context. Basically, virtually every one I’ve seen wants another notch to mark where they got away with a gotcha.
She had a fairly nice exchange with Chuck Todd by phone today and he is one of the worst for slant and snark.
Again, my point is she can handle press conference questions quite well and would look good doing so. Just don’t understand why they are obviously afraid of it.
This is a democracy, I guess, and annoying press conference questions are part of it. The Queen of England gets to avoid it but an American presidential candidate ought to be able to handle it.
Probably, but the Press has a responsibility as well. How about asking about something other than were you a criminal then or now. Maybe if they did their part to actually provide information, context, follow up. The current state of the fourth estate is absolutely dismal. We have news readers and pundits. Actual journalists are on a scale with chicken dentistry.
I agree with Jamie. The teevee ‘press’ know that if they wait long enough there will be enough outrageous crap, and I mean crap, to take care of the advertisers for a few hours if they just stay with the ‘boys’. If that’s their 1st Amendment mission then so be it. Otherwise, have them draft a pool reporter and camera person to follow Hillary around reporting on her positions and remarks, and audience reactions to We, the People of these United States.
I’m really really missing Uncle Walter, Huntley, Brinkley, and all their honored ilk.
I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.
OK fine, if she can’t handle the questions in an open-ended press conference she should stay in her bubble, let Trump own that space.
It’s NOT her job to get on her knees in front of some dork too lazy to explore what journalism is.
Jamie,
It’s the four Ws–What, Where, When and How many. That’s the Army version I learned many years ago.
Flatus, I am saying don’t dodge the dorks, nail them like Trump does, put them on their knees. Her campaign is wimping out on this front. Big mistake.
Flatus
Yes that is the Kipling version. I learned it as five in a writing class: Who, what, where, when, and why. There is a great scene in the film Teacher’s Pet where Doris Day reads a submission of a “think piece” in a journalism class. Unfortunately, there isn’t a lot of thinking going on these days.
Okay, how about an East Room type of setting–something more formal than the gaggles that the other two enjoy. Have all the questioners they want. Give her a place to sit if it’s really going to be long and a ruled pad that she can jot down her thoughts. Make it palatable. She’s an established woman in her own right. Hell, make it like a War Room. She would handle one of them just fine.
I listened to part of that press conference. It was half fluffing at best. They asked questions, Trump gave general answers (fantastic, wonderful, great…) with no details about how he’d accomplish anything – then he called on the next reporter. He backed off on previous statements, claiming he didn’t really say those things and refused to answer about his current stance on his Muslim ban. Anyone can do a press conference like that if the press is giving him the same BJ that MSNBC was giving him with the free airtime. After what I heard – the world will be wonderful under a Trump administration. Of course I’ve never heard such bullshit in my life, but he had a much more presidential demeanor as he shoveled it. Oh, and he said Bernie provided him with some good lines he is using against Hillary.
BTW, I must say I agree with Craig, but I do think she will do press conferences, but I’m not at all sure she should do them before the 6/7 primaries are over and the nomination is sewed up. Trump didn’t.
Pogo, my point exactly. A pro like Hillary can do the same thing he did, stay in control and on message while seeming accessible and transparent. Cannot understand why her campaign avoids that opportunity. Do they lack confidence in her ability to handle it?
Flatus
I like that idea. She aces editorial boards and those aren’t a love fest. You either know the answers or you don’t plus there is the element of a conversation. It is her style. Do it and film it and show the film. My honest opinion is that she has simply had it with the unending attacks. It is now at the damned if you do damned if you don’t level. If she said the sky was blue, some jerk off would opine that she really meant to say turquoise and was obfuscating the real shade of azure or cerulean when we know her husband preferred aquamarine with splashes of pink.
Pogo, he has done, by my count, at least 7 wide open press conferences since she has, including some on primary nights, such as Florida’s.
Editorial Boards are nerd fests for navel gazers, don’t offer the same optics of accessibility and transparency as a press conference free-for-all.
I have only heard the press conference today. But then again, I work during the day. MSNBC has spent its time covering rallies. Now those I’ve seen.
Trump Hotel bookings plummet 60% with Global Boycott http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-campaign-hurting-hotel-business/
Unfortunately, he probably doesn’t own any of them and just leases the use of his name which means that a lot of innocent people get hurt. Of course that is the story of his life … Get off Scott free while making others suffer.
Craig
Probably needs to be some happy medium then. Of course what I appreciate most about her is that she is a nerd who gets things done while remaining well loved by everyone who knows her well. It seems to me that describes a very effective leader on a global scale certainly worthy to come behind Barrack Obama. Decidedly a whole lot better than any of the other possibilities.
What Trump does IS NOT a press conference. The bodies are there to attend an environmentally hazardous sewage spill.
Jamie: “she is a nerd who gets things done”
I do not mean to be sarcastic but what are the three things she has gotten done the average person can understand?
I don’t figure batting around a buncha attitude and opinionationistic bombasticals is ever going to amount to much so I’ll just say that I trust Hillary and I do not think that it is a misplaced trust; and I figure she can handle it at this point in the program.
I’m with her. The kid’s ok.
Craig
SCHIP
Women’s Rights China
Recovery after Bush Presidency
But here is a pretty well balanced article by several authors who have the same problem. How do you get specific out of damned fine leadership.
Craig
This is probably what you consider a invitation appearance, but it is a 60 minute event in San Francisco. Of course it wasn’t covered wall to wall on TV but put on the internet …. Can you say media bias?
http://www.msnbc.com/live-online/watch/live-clinton-holds-ca-campaign-event-693759555838?cid=sm_tw_msnbc
Trump has owned the television coverage for months. Even when he lost primaries he was the story. It is part of the reason he has been able to campaign without all the traditional staff and expense. Team Clinton should be working on a way to reverse that dynamic. If that means holding the occasional presser then by all means do it. If that means holding a press conference every Monday morning they should do that. There are enough vital issues on the table that a serious discussion would make Trump’s positions and comments all that much more laughable and obnoxious. They need to draw the contrast and they need to draw it every day if possible.
Watching The Eighties on CNN. Oh Lord, Music Videos deserve a circle of hell all by their lonesome.
Sturg, well said. My thoughts exactly., professor. 😉
Jace, ‘xactly.
Just getting around to reading the Post. Ed board gave Powell a pass whIle going harsh on Hillary. Of course Colin isn’t running for pres.
Sj, re the eighties videos, ain’t it the truth?
Pogo,
Truth.
Most everything about the 1980’s sucked.
If that was a news conference then the media reallyreally sucks
Sturg
I like the way you put that! I feel the very same.?
SJ, there was one good thing that came out of the 80s – shred guitar. (Van Halen, Satrisni, Vai, Gilbert, Malmsteen) There was a ton of decent music on the heavy side of the spectrum. Disco, now that SUCKED.
I really hope the Sanders v Trump debate actually happens. If Bernie does well, it takes Hillary down a peg. If Trump does well, the same is true, plus, it gives him more practice. The proceeds go to charity. It’s a win/win.
Loved the 80s because I was younger and more carefree. Also, John Hughes movies.
Trump beats 16 opponents and clinches nomination today, before Hillary can formally make that claim. If DNC rigged it for her they need to go back to rigging school.
Sorry for the bandwidth, but:
1. Ron Thal – Bumblefoot, Solo2. Paul Gilbert – Racer X, Mr. Big, Solo3. Steve Vai – Solo, David Lee Roth, Whitesnake4. Marty Friedman – Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo 5. Steve Morse – Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Steve Morse Band 6. Buckethead – Solo, Guns N Roses, Praxis, C2B37. Mattias IA Eklundh – Freak Kitchen 8. Randy Rhoads – Quiet Riot, Ozzy 9. Michael Romeo – Symphony X, Solo10. Yngwie Malmsteen – Steeler, Rising Force, Solo 11. Greg Howe – Planet X, Solo 12. John Petrucci – Dream Theater, Liquid TensionExp.13. Tony MacAlpine – Solo, M.A.R.S., Planet X, Ring Of Fire14. Michael Angelo Batio – Nitro, Solo15. Stephan Forte – Adagio, Solo16. Vinnie Moore – Alice Cooper, Solo17. Ritchie Blackmore – Deep Purple, Rainbow 18. Nuno Bettencourt – Extreme, Mourning Widows, Solo19. Chris Poland – Megadeth, OHM20. Fredrik Thordendal – Meshuggah21. Jeff Loomis – Nevermore22. Alex Skolnik – Testament23. Joe Satriani – Solo24. Ritchie Kotzen – Solo, Poison, Mr. Big25. Al Pitrelli – Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Savatage, Megadeth26. Alex Pareja – The Number Twelve Looks Like You27. Steve Stevens – Billy Idol, Atomic Playboys, Solo28. Akira Takasaki – Lazy, Loudness, Ji-Zo, Solo29. George Lynch – Dokken, Lynch Mob, Solo 30. Rob Schaffer – Into the Moat31. Jason Becker – Cacophony, David Lee Roth, Solo32. Neal Schon – Beck, Santana, Journey, Solo, Soul Sirkus33. Luca Turilli – Rhapsody, Solo34. Vito Bratta – White Lion 35. Michael Schenker – MSG, Scorpions, Contraband, Solo36. Michael Amott – Arch Enemy, Carcass37. Jesper Strömblad – In Flames 38. Stevie Blaze – Lillian Axe, Angel, Near Life Experience 39. Gary Hoey – Solo, Vinnie40. Adrian Smith – Iron Maiden41. Dimebag Darrell – Pantera 42. Slash – Guns N Roses, Snake Pit, Velvet Revolver43. Doug Aldrich – House Of Lords, Dio, Whitesnake 44. Chris Impellitteri – Impellitteri 45. Timo Tolkki – Stratovarius 46. Alexi ‘Wildchild’ Laiho – Children of Bodom47. Andy La Roque – King Diamond, Death48. Christopher Amott – Arch Enemy49. Nick Hipa – As I Lay Dying50. Roy Z – Bruce Dickinson51. Uli Jon Roth – Scorpions, Solo 52. Gary Moore – Thin Lizzy, Colosseum II, Skid Row, Solo 53. Eddie Van Halen – Van Halen54. Chuck Schuldiner – Death55. Bill Steer – Carcass, Napalm Death56. Jim Matheos – Fates Warning57. Dave Mustaine – Megadeth 58. Tony Iommi – Black Sabbath 59. Michael Wilton – Queensryche 60. Dave Murray – Iron Maiden61. Larry Lalonde – Primus62. Andy Timmons – Danger Danger, Solo 63. Chris Degarmo – Queensryche, Jerry Cantrell64. Phil Sgrosso – As I Lay Dying65. Reb Beach – Winger, Dokken, Whitesnake, Solo 66. Vernon Reid – Living Colour, Solo67. Vivian Cambell – Dio, Def Leppard 68. Kirk Hammet – Metallica69. Zakk Wylde – Ozzy, Pride & Glory, B.L.S., Solo70. Mikael Akerfeldt – Opeth71. Daron Malakian – System of a Down 72. Kerry King – Slayer 73. Hary Cody – Shotgun Messiah, Sessions 74. John Sykes – Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake, Blue Murder, Solo75. Ty Tabor – Kings X 76. Mark “Duane” Morton – Lamb of God, Burn the Preist77. Thomas Youngblood – Kamelot78. Jake E. Lee – Ratt, Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo79. Rusty Cooley – Solo80. Jeff Hanneman – Slayer 81. Herman Li – DragonForce 82. Mick Thomson – Slipknot 83. Brian Eschbach – Black Dahlia Murder84. John Norum – Europe, Dokken, Don Dokken 85. Glen Tipton – Judas Priest 86. Jon Lively – Warlock, Dokken87. Tak Matsumoto – TMG 88. KK Downing – Judas Priest89. Jim Root – Slipknot90. Ronnie Montrose – Montrose91. Wolf Hoffman – Accept, Solo 92. Sam Totman – Dragon Force, Shadow Warriors93. Dave Meniketti – Y & T 94. Billy Duffy – The Cult 95. Dan Huff – Giant, Sessions 96. Tom Morello – RATM, Audioslave97. Matthias Jabs – Scorpions98. Janick Gers – Iron Maiden 99. John Christ – Danzig100. Karl Sanders – Nile
No. 2 was the beginning of LP’s downfall – his first guitar god. Slash is 42 and Van Halen is no. 53? Lord!
Why doesn’t Clinton camp roll out the super delegates for a photo op and declare final victory for required number of delegates for the nomination? Why so timid about that?
Thats all Trump did today. Gather enough unbound delegates who put him over the top, and move on to the general. Can’t understand why they keep letting him upstage them.
Gotta admit I’m getting bored, just a repeat of the same ole stuff Maybe that is why this caught my eye, ( and Craig it would be a good topic for a thread too )
Does the Libertarian Party Finally Have a Chance?
Jack
Watching OKC – Golden State. For those people who think LeBron is a Flopper, Steph Curry puts him to shame. Curry goes onto the court on his back if he feels breath when he takes a shot.
Crap. GSW will win this one.
60 million cyber protesters by the end of the decade. The people’s army will consider the present chicom’s velvet sledgehammer to be too sissified. commie China is teetering on the edge of a bloodbath the likes of which the world has never seen. I’m guessing that the army will ditch the commie window dressing and the business savvy window dressing and take over as a straightforward, no back talk, military slave state tyranny.
Call it, the Second Coming of the Duke of Qin.
Who, what, where, when, and how. Why is inevitably a problem of metaphysics or religion – that’s not exactly the stuff of political reportage.
The big question is, when deadbeat donald moves to retrieve the investments and jobs from commie China, will he include adelson’s Macao casino/spa/bank/noKorea money laundromat ? Or will chairman sheldon be exempted ?
So, let’s see what Deadbeat Donald is hiding in his tax returns ?
Partnerships with mobsters.
Investments in commieChina, Iran, and russia.
Repeated tax problems. Beneficiary of the tax debt forgiveness program.
He’s not worth $!0B!LL!ION, but only the $50million he inherited.
Investments in Indian and Burmese child brothels.
Child support payments for 38 kids made to 31 different women in 9 countries.
Payments for a half dozen separate wrongful death suits.
Monthly visits to either the chicken ranch, or to limbaugh’s Dominican ‘boys resort.’
Just what is Deadbeat Donald hiding that is so horrible ?
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