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Blue Bronc
10 months ago

A good jury will hold off until after dinner today, a fed up with this mess jury will do lunch and then call the judge.
A bad jury, one with a magat, will go until next week and go for a hung jury.

craigcrawford
10 months ago

Looking at all the possibilities, one to consider is that they hang on some counts, convict on others. With so many counts they could compromise with holdouts and not convict on the counts where he didn’t sign the checks, for example.

Pogeaux
10 months ago

Place your bets. Oddsmaker Review

Betting on Donald Trump Trials: Updated Conviction Odds
The Donald Trump New York hush money trial is winding down as closing arguments are being given today. The defense spent much of its three and a half hours driving home the argument that Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen is an admitted liar and the human embodiment of reasonable doubt. The prosecutions closing arguments are next before the jury will begin their deliberations.
Betting odds have bounced around throughout the trial and currently sit at -260 on Trump being found guilty on at least one felony charge; a 72.2% chance. 
The defense rested their case after calling only two witnesses and did not elect to have former Commander-in-Chief Trump take the witness stand.
As the Donald Trump hush money wraps up in New York, sportsbooks have released political betting odds on the outcome of this trial and numerous others. 
Odds on if Trump Will Be Found Guilty in Hush Money Case

Trial Start Date: April 15, 2024
Total Charges: 34

The following markets are currently posted by trusted election betting sites.
Will Trump be found guilty of one or more felonies in New York?
Bettors have multiple choices to wager on Trump being found guilty at trusted offshore sportsbooks.
Editor’s note 5/28: The odds are now -260 on a conviction.
The odds of Trump being found guilty of at least one felony have bounced around from -260 to -175 all the way back to -260. A $260 wager returns $100 in profit for betting on Trump being found guilty.
Online sportsbook Bookmaker.eu has previously released betting odds on a Trump conviction priced at -300 on yes and +228 on no. Bettors who believe Trump will be acquitted would receive a slightly higher payout, highlighting the importance of line shopping based on which outcome is considered most likely. As of May 21 this market has been suspended and may be relisted later this week.
However, with the decision of the defense to rest its case in the hush money trial, a verdict could be coming soon. The trial, which began on April 15th, was originally scheduled to last six weeks.

[The article lists 3 offshore sites to bet on the outcome and various aspects of the trial]

(***)

The odds of a conviction are not long.

craigcrawford
10 months ago

Prosecutor Steinglass: “”The name of the game was concealment — and all roads lead inescapably to the man who needed it most, the defendant, former president Donald Trump”

craigcrawford
10 months ago

More Steinglass to jury: “The defendant didn’t actually pay a lawyer – he paid a porn star, by funneling money through a lawyer.”

Sturgeone
10 months ago

“The Press” isn’t covering the orange derangement, but the political cartoonists certainly are. Look at how all their drawings of him make him look like a madman.  

craigcrawford
10 months ago

He’s lying about advice of counsel, his lawyers didn’t assert it…

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!

May 29, 2024, 8:46 AM

craigcrawford
10 months ago

Shudder to think what this means (flag outside courtroom today)

Pogeaux
10 months ago

Poobah, doesn’t take much imagination to answer that one.
 
And as to the rant, I can think of a couple or three legal experts who disagree that the case should never have been brought – Bragg, Colangelo, Hoffinger and Steinglass just to name 4. And I bet that Lisa Rubin and Chuck Rosenberg would agree. as would Laurence Tribe.  Somewhere among them I believe yu can find someone who would be considered a legal scholar and expert.
 
As to advise(?) [advice] of counsel, not only did they not assert it, when they started questioning Cohen about communications between him and Dumbass they waived it.  Cohen is no longer under jeopardy from the NY State Bar, but his lawyers who questioned Cohen are.

craigcrawford
10 months ago

FOX host John Roberts: “Trump seems to be preparing for a ‘guilty’ verdict – in the courthouse just now saying  “Mother Theresa could not beat these charges, but we’ll see. We’ll see how we do.”

Pogeaux
10 months ago

Mother Theresa falsified payments to a lawyer as legal expenses to disguise a campaign expenditure to a porn star to keep her mouth shut?  Who knew?

IvyGreen
10 months ago

Mother Theresa may be a saint but she wasn’t an angel to deal with. I heard that from some nuns. 

RebelliousRenee
10 months ago

today’s meme…
 
 

Pogeaux
10 months ago

Jury’s done for the day.  They want to hear parts of the jury charge, parts of Pecker’s and Cohen’s testimony about an August 2015 meeting at Trump Tower, Pecker’s testimony about a phone call between Trump and Pecker and Pecker’s testimony about his decision not to pay Daniels to catch and kill her testimony. Sounds like Blanche’ smoke screen didn’t obscure the evidence critical to the charges against dumbass.

IvyGreen
10 months ago

This better be moved forward. I’m sick of Thomas and Alito’s shit.
 

“…most important, Justice Kennedy found for the court that the failure of an objectively biased judge to recuse him- or herself is not “harmless error” just because the biased judge’s vote is not apparently determinative in the vote of a panel of judges. A biased judge contaminates the proceeding not just by the casting and tabulation of his or her own vote but by participating in the body’s collective deliberations and affecting, even subtly, other judges’ perceptions of the case.”

 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/opinion/alito-thomas-recuse-trump-jan-6.html

IvyGreen
10 months ago

Cannon’s crap too. Nothing worse than bad-apple judges.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/us/politics/trump-documents-judge-aileen-cannon.html
 

Sturgeone
10 months ago

Pastor Shane Vaughn brings the good news that Jesus was a millionaire and that’s why Pastors get to drive Cadillacs.

Katherine Graham Cracker
10 months ago

Lock him up.  I know the judge has some descretion here but
I think he should be locked up.  

Pogeaux
10 months ago

Glad to hear Jesus was wealthy. Always thought just the opposite. Screw Shane Vaughn. 
Oh, and screw Alito and Roberts. Dumbass will be kissing Alito’s pussy and grabbing Roberts. 

Sturgeone
10 months ago

Gives a whole new vibe to that old story about overturning the tables. 

Bink
10 months ago

As a kid, when i would see religious hucksters on TV, such as your Swaggarts and Tammy Fayes, i remember thinking that such scams would have a limited viability as people would, of course, as time progressed, and exposure increased, one would think, become more sophisticated 
 
Nope, a bigger business than ever! 🇺🇸 

IvyGreen
10 months ago

So, he’s saying Jesus picked up all the money from the floor of the temple after he overturned the tables? 

Sturgeone
10 months ago

Sure. Some of it may have inadvertently slipped sideways like yes some little bit of it may have wound up in his pocket. Later they would call that the vigorish.

Sturgeone
10 months ago

It begins to look like The Dumb will always be with us.