29 thoughts on “It Gets Your Gloat”

  1. The Guardian recap:

    Donald Trump’s secret plot to bury negative press ahead of the 2016 election deprived Americans of their right to choose a candidate at the ballot box, said the prosecution in its summation on Tuesday at the former president’s New York hush-money trial.
    Joshua Steinglass’s closing statement reminded jurors of a summer 2015 meeting at Trump Tower where the real estate mogul sat with then consigliere Michael Cohen and tabloid honcho David Pecker.
    At this meeting, Pecker said, he agreed to apprise them of negative stories that could thwart the former president’s campaign, so they could work to bury them; this would come to include adult film star Stormy Daniels’ allegation of an extramarital liaison with Trump about 10 years prior.
    “Three rich and powerful men, high up in Trump Tower, tried to become even more powerful by controlling the information that reached voters,” the prosecutor said.
    “The value of this corrupt bargain: it turned out to be one of the most valuable contributions to the Trump campaign. This scheme cooked up by these men, at this time, could very well be what got Donald Trump elected.”
    Steinglass discussed how the alleged scheme worked in the wake of embarrassing headlines. When a hot mic recording of Donald Trump boasting about grabbing women “by the pussy” emerged on 7 October 2016, his campaign spiraled into abject panic. Campaign staffers did damage control, labeling Trump’s comments during the Access Hollywood taping as “locker room banter”.
    “That media strategy shifted from deny, deny, deny, to spin,” Steinglass said during his summation in Trump’s New York criminal hush-money trial.
    Two women’s claims of sexual misconduct emerged days later. Trump’s camp knew their grip over the narrative was slipping and that one more allegation could sink him with female voters. When Daniels, who claimed to have had a sexual liaison with Trump in 2006, seemed like she wanted money in exchange for silence, it was a compelling offer.
    “You really can’t understand this case without appreciating the climate,” Steinglass said. “He was negotiating to muzzle a porn star” who was threatening to go public.
    “Stormy Daniels was a walking, talking reminder that the defendant was not only worse – she would have totally undermined his strategy for spinning the Access Hollywood tape.”
    “In simplest terms, Stormy Daniels is the motive,” Steinglass said earlier in his summation.
    Steinglass’s closing – which he said could take four and a half hours – came after Trump’s defense team presented an hours-long summation that featured eyebrow-raising elements, including his claim that conspiracies to win elections happen all the time.
    “It doesn’t matter if there was a conspiracy to try and win an election,” Todd Blanche, Trump’s defense attorney, said of the alleged payoff plot involving Trump, who is accused elsewhere of election meddling and fomenting civil unrest to thwart Joe Biden from taking office. “Every campaign in this country is a conspiracy to promote a candidate.”
    Blanche’s comment came as he insisted to jurors that Trump did not falsify business records – nor did he try to – and that jurors need not even consider his alleged efforts to sway the 2016 race by burying potentially damaging news coverage. Prosecutors allege that Trump plotted a catch-and-kill scheme during the summer 2015 meeting with Cohen and Pecker.
    “Many politicians work with the media to try and promote their image,” Blanche also said, adding that Pecker had provided favorable coverage to Trump for decades – far before his candidacy – “because it was good for business”. He called this symbiosis between media and politicians “standard operating procedure”.
    Blanche did not admit that Trump plot with cronies to influence election results with a hush-money payment, and denied there was a conspiracy or collusion, but presented it more as a hypothetical: even if a media-campaign collusion did happen, there was “nothing criminal, nothing criminal about it, it’s done all the time”, Blanche said.
    “You have to find that this effort was done by unlawful means,” he said at one point.
    At the end of his summation, Blanche provided 10 reasons why jurors should find reasonable doubt – and acquit Trump. Among these reasons: Cohen created the invoices for legal services, not Trump, and there was no proof that he ever saw the vouchers or checks which prosecutors claim are illegal, Blanche said.
    Blanche also said there was no evidence that Trump tried to defraud anyone, noting that a tax document was issued to Cohen. He said that there was no reason to do anything illegal to cover up Daniels’ account, noting that it had already been public.
    No 10 on Blanche’s list was Cohen.
    “Cohen is the human embodiment of reasonable doubt,” Blanche said. He referred to the acronym “Goat”, which refers to athletes and performers at the top of their game.
    “Have you guys heard of Goat, a goat, greatest of all time?” he said, noting that Tom Brady is called Goat of football. “Michael Cohen is the Gloat – the greatest liar of all time.”
    Trump, who is almost certain to secure the Republican presidential nomination, is charged with falsifying business records related to paying Daniels $130,000 for her silence about an alleged sexual liaison.
    Prosecutors argue that the recording of these payments in business records amounts to election interference, as Trump was running in the 2016 race for the White House at the time of the payoff and seeking to cover up a potentially damaging scandal.
    For weeks, testimony has gripped the US and the world amid the prospect that the former US president could be found guilty of a crime. But as details of the case and Trump’s liaison with Daniels have been brought before a Manhattan jury, they have had seemingly little impact on the 2024 race – where Trump still often narrowly leads Joe Biden in head-to-head polls and is performing strongly in the swings states that are crucial to victory.
    Trump denies all the allegations.
    Trump, sporting a crimson tie and crisp white shirt, was accompanied by his daughter Tiffany and two of his sons, Eric and Donald Jr, at court.
    Central to the case is the testimony of Trump’s former lawyer and once-feared fixer Cohen. Cohen gave vital evidence for the role that Trump played in the alleged hush-money scheme, but was also brutally grilled by Trump’s lawyers for his previous history of lying and his evident dislike of his former boss and desire to see him behind bars.
    What weight the jury places on the reliability of Cohen’s testimony is likely to decide the case one way or the other. If found guilty, Trump could face the prospect of jail, though that is mostly seen as unlikely. Any guilty verdict would also almost certainly trigger a lengthy series of appeals.
    In his closing, Blanche repeatedly hammered on Cohen’s credibility. “The words that Michael Cohen said to you on that stand, they matter. They matter,” Blanche said. “He told you a number of things on that witness stand that were lies.”
    He emphasized that the invoices in the case were submitted by Cohen, adding: “You cannot convict President Trump. You cannot convict President Trump of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt based on the word of Michael Cohen.”
    Blanche urged jurors to want more than Cohen’s testimony and, referring to Daniels, “something beyond the word of a woman who claims that something happened in 2006”.
    He also insisted that the key allegation of prosecutors – that business records were falsified because they wrongly claimed that repayments were for legal services – fell flat, insisting that Cohen was Trump’s personal lawyer and “was rendering services to President Trump in 2017 as his personal attorney”.
    During his closing, Steinglass tried to address concerns about Cohen’s credibility as the defense repeatedly said that Cohen was dishonest and hell-bent on revenge. Steinglass admitted that Cohen had an interest in this case beyond just testifying – and told jurors they’re free to take that into account during deliberations.
    “Michael Cohen is understandably angry,” Steinglass said. “To date, he’s the only one who’s paid the price. Pecker got a non-prosecution agreement. Cohen did the defendant’s bidding for years – his right-hand man, his consigliere … and when it went bad, the defendant cut him loose, like a hot potato, and tweeted out to the world that Cohen was a scumbag, a sleazebag, and all the while, the election law violations to which Cohen pleaded guilty were done at the direction of the defendant!”
    Steinglass continued, saying Cohen “made his bed”, but “you can hardly blame him for making money off the one thing he has left, which is his knowledge of the inner workings of the Trump phenomena”.
    “It’s obvious they want to make this case about Michael Cohen. It isn’t – that’s a deflection,” he said. “This case is not about Michael Cohen. This case is about Donald Trump – and whether he should be held accountable for making false entries in his own business records.
    “Michael Cohen’s significance in this case is that he provides color and context to documents He’s like a tour guide.”
    Trump also faces three other criminal trials: one for trying to sway the 2020 election in Georgia, another for his conduct around the January 6 attack on the Capitol and a third one related to his treatment of sensitive documents after he left the White House. However, all three have been seriously delayed and none are seen as likely to conclude – or even start – before November’s presidential election.

  2. being there in the trenches

    How We Survived the Trump Trial – POLITICO

    NEW YORK — A media spectacle was inevitable. How could it not be, for the first ever criminal trial of a former U.S. president? So journalists across the world have descended on a decidedly unglamorous state courthouse in lower Manhattan to cover Donald Trump’s hush money trial. Many non-journalists — curious members of the public along with pro-Trump politicians — have also found themselves drawn to the proceedings.
    But attending the Trump trial hasn’t been easy. We’ve had to maneuver through Secret Service agents policing the courthouse; dictatorial rules against coffee in the courtroom; and hallways filled with warnings about asbestos.
    As the Trump trial winds down, we’ve finally developed a series of hacks to make the process as painless as possible. Now we know the answer to questions like: Should I pack a tent to set up on a New York City sidewalk at 3 a.m. to ensure a spot in line? Can I really bring myself to eat in the bathroom?
    No one said covering history would be pretty. Here’s what we’ve learned about how to survive the Trump trial:
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  3. in re the thread title:

    We know Michael Cohen is a liar. But what about the liar who employed him? (coloradosun.com)

    […]
    In his closing, Trump lawyer Todd Blanche went all sports metaphor on us, calling Cohen the MVP of liars, the GOAT — the Greatest of All Time — of liars, and then bringing down the metaphorical hammer, calling him the GLOAT, or Greatest Liar of All Time.
    […]
    The GLOAT reference is not a bad line. But it is a bad joke.
    Blanche did all this while representing the real GLOAT, the former president who, during his four years in office, lied more than 30,000 times, according to the carefully documented running score conducted by The Washington Post. I don’t know if Cohen could begin to match that.
    Blanche did this while representing the person who continues to tell the “Big Lie” that the 2020 election was rigged — the lie that MAGA World has adopted as gospel. Even Cohen says he knows better.
    Blanche did this while representing the person that a jury had found liable for defaming — you know, lying about — the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom Trump was also adjudicated to have sexually assaulted. This, it seems, is way out of Cohen’s league.
    And God help us, Blanche made his grandiloquent statement on Cohen’s skills in prevarication just days after Trump had made the outrageous gut-punch of a lie that Joe Biden and the FBI were ready to assassinate him during the 2022 Mar-a-Lago search for Trump’s hidden cache of classified documents.
    In a fundraising letter, Trump charged: “You know they’re just itching to do the unthinkable … Joe Biden was locked & loaded ready to take me out & put my family in danger.”
    The same day, he wrote on his social media site that “Joe Biden’s DOJ, in their Illegal and UnConstitutional Raid of Mar-a-Lago, AUTHORIZED THE FBI TO USE DEADLY (LETHAL) FORCE.”
    As most of us have learned by now, the use-of-force language in an FBI search warrant is standard for any such operation. It is such an over-the-top lie — neither Trump nor his family was even at Mar-a-Lago during the search — that no one could possibly be dumb enough to believe it, except for, uh, Lauren Boebert. Or Byron Donalds. Or Paul Gosar.  Or some deluded Trump acolyte who might take it upon himself to avenge this so-called UnConstitutional Raid.
    Or maybe, and this has to be the Trump team’s best hope about Trump’s lies, at least one juror, which would be enough to force a hung jury.
    Whatever else this trial has accomplished, it has made the irrefutable case — one you’d think was made long ago — that Trump is not just a liar, but also a sleazebag. And not just because he said — in what everyone knew to be a lie — he would take the stand in his defense but, of course, didn’t. And not just because he apparently slept with a porn star while Melania was home tending to their baby son. And not just because he routinely tells vicious lies about any judge or prosecutor who stands in his way.
    This trial reminded us that Trump’s 2016 campaign was born in sleazy cooperation with the National Enquirer — the prosecutors call it a conspiracy, and maybe it was — to quash negative stories about Trump and to invent preposterously damning stories about his opponents.
    […]
    But the case matching the two liars, Cohen and Trump, basically comes down to this. Cohen says he paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 out of his pocket and demanded that Trump pay him back.
    Trump argues that he was simply reimbursing Cohen for legal fees and that the reimbursement, which Cohen says would have been for about 10 hours of legal work, amounted to $420,000.
    Really? Well, you can tell it to the judge. 
    And, yes, now to the jury, which, after weeks of testimony, finally gets to decide what is a lie and what isn’t.

  4. A good jury will hold off until after dinner today, a fed up with this mess jury will do lunch and then call the judge.
    A bad jury, one with a magat, will go until next week and go for a hung jury.

  5. Looking at all the possibilities, one to consider is that they hang on some counts, convict on others. With so many counts they could compromise with holdouts and not convict on the counts where he didn’t sign the checks, for example.

  6. Place your bets. Oddsmaker Review

    Betting on Donald Trump Trials: Updated Conviction Odds
    The Donald Trump New York hush money trial is winding down as closing arguments are being given today. The defense spent much of its three and a half hours driving home the argument that Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen is an admitted liar and the human embodiment of reasonable doubt. The prosecutions closing arguments are next before the jury will begin their deliberations.
    Betting odds have bounced around throughout the trial and currently sit at -260 on Trump being found guilty on at least one felony charge; a 72.2% chance. 
    The defense rested their case after calling only two witnesses and did not elect to have former Commander-in-Chief Trump take the witness stand.
    As the Donald Trump hush money wraps up in New York, sportsbooks have released political betting odds on the outcome of this trial and numerous others. 
    Odds on if Trump Will Be Found Guilty in Hush Money Case

    Trial Start Date: April 15, 2024
    Total Charges: 34

    The following markets are currently posted by trusted election betting sites.
    Will Trump be found guilty of one or more felonies in New York?
    Bettors have multiple choices to wager on Trump being found guilty at trusted offshore sportsbooks.
    Editor’s note 5/28: The odds are now -260 on a conviction.
    The odds of Trump being found guilty of at least one felony have bounced around from -260 to -175 all the way back to -260. A $260 wager returns $100 in profit for betting on Trump being found guilty.
    Online sportsbook Bookmaker.eu has previously released betting odds on a Trump conviction priced at -300 on yes and +228 on no. Bettors who believe Trump will be acquitted would receive a slightly higher payout, highlighting the importance of line shopping based on which outcome is considered most likely. As of May 21 this market has been suspended and may be relisted later this week.
    However, with the decision of the defense to rest its case in the hush money trial, a verdict could be coming soon. The trial, which began on April 15th, was originally scheduled to last six weeks.

    [The article lists 3 offshore sites to bet on the outcome and various aspects of the trial]

    (***)

    The odds of a conviction are not long.

  7. Prosecutor Steinglass: “”The name of the game was concealment — and all roads lead inescapably to the man who needed it most, the defendant, former president Donald Trump”

  8. More Steinglass to jury: “The defendant didn’t actually pay a lawyer – he paid a porn star, by funneling money through a lawyer.”

  9. “The Press” isn’t covering the orange derangement, but the political cartoonists certainly are. Look at how all their drawings of him make him look like a madman.  

  10. He’s lying about advice of counsel, his lawyers didn’t assert it…

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    KANGAROO COURT! A CORRUPT AND CONFLICTED JUDGE. RELIANCE ON COUNSEL (ADVISE OF COUNSEL) NOT ALLOWED BY MERCHAN, A FIRST. HIS RULINGS, ON A CASE THAT SHOULD, ACCORDING TO ALL LEGAL SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS, NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, HAVE MADE THIS A BIDEN PUSHED WITCH HUNT. THERE WAS NO CRIME, EXCEPT FOR THE BUM THAT GOT CAUGHT STEALING FROM ME! IN GOD WE TRUST!

    May 29, 2024, 8:46 AM

  12. Poobah, doesn’t take much imagination to answer that one.
     
    And as to the rant, I can think of a couple or three legal experts who disagree that the case should never have been brought – Bragg, Colangelo, Hoffinger and Steinglass just to name 4. And I bet that Lisa Rubin and Chuck Rosenberg would agree. as would Laurence Tribe.  Somewhere among them I believe yu can find someone who would be considered a legal scholar and expert.
     
    As to advise(?) [advice] of counsel, not only did they not assert it, when they started questioning Cohen about communications between him and Dumbass they waived it.  Cohen is no longer under jeopardy from the NY State Bar, but his lawyers who questioned Cohen are.

  13. FOX host John Roberts: “Trump seems to be preparing for a ‘guilty’ verdict – in the courthouse just now saying  “Mother Theresa could not beat these charges, but we’ll see. We’ll see how we do.”

  14. Mother Theresa falsified payments to a lawyer as legal expenses to disguise a campaign expenditure to a porn star to keep her mouth shut?  Who knew?

  15. Mother Theresa may be a saint but she wasn’t an angel to deal with. I heard that from some nuns. 

  18. Jury’s done for the day.  They want to hear parts of the jury charge, parts of Pecker’s and Cohen’s testimony about an August 2015 meeting at Trump Tower, Pecker’s testimony about a phone call between Trump and Pecker and Pecker’s testimony about his decision not to pay Daniels to catch and kill her testimony. Sounds like Blanche’ smoke screen didn’t obscure the evidence critical to the charges against dumbass.

  19. This better be moved forward. I’m sick of Thomas and Alito’s shit.
     

    “…most important, Justice Kennedy found for the court that the failure of an objectively biased judge to recuse him- or herself is not “harmless error” just because the biased judge’s vote is not apparently determinative in the vote of a panel of judges. A biased judge contaminates the proceeding not just by the casting and tabulation of his or her own vote but by participating in the body’s collective deliberations and affecting, even subtly, other judges’ perceptions of the case.”

     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/opinion/alito-thomas-recuse-trump-jan-6.html

  21. Pastor Shane Vaughn brings the good news that Jesus was a millionaire and that’s why Pastors get to drive Cadillacs.

  22. Lock him up.  I know the judge has some descretion here but
    I think he should be locked up.  

  23. Glad to hear Jesus was wealthy. Always thought just the opposite. Screw Shane Vaughn. 
    Oh, and screw Alito and Roberts. Dumbass will be kissing Alito’s pussy and grabbing Roberts. 

  25. As a kid, when i would see religious hucksters on TV, such as your Swaggarts and Tammy Fayes, i remember thinking that such scams would have a limited viability as people would, of course, as time progressed, and exposure increased, one would think, become more sophisticated 
     
    Nope, a bigger business than ever! 🇺🇸 

  26. So, he’s saying Jesus picked up all the money from the floor of the temple after he overturned the tables? 

  27. Sure. Some of it may have inadvertently slipped sideways like yes some little bit of it may have wound up in his pocket. Later they would call that the vigorish.

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