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Watching Hillary on MSNBC. Good laugh over new release of Russians attacking her tweeted out by Trump campaign even though a footnote ‘we can’t guarantee accuracy”
Jamie, yes, I had a good laugh about the latest GOP lies about, Hillary! Hillary was so spot on about Joe and his mission tonight.
Craig, you’re spot on as well. Don’t take the bait. Don’t even look at Trump. Look at the camera.
“I’m not going to listen to him”. …. BIDEN STOP TAKING HIS BAIT …. after he said not going to listen to him, then he responded to what he said when interrupting.
Fatass, loudmouth, imbecilic tRUMPsky.
Since he’s talking over everyone, the mute button stays on now and I’ve retreated to the bedroom with my phone and sketchbook.
Gee, if only one of the women he paid to have an abortion would come forward with proof.
Local debate, years ago, the candidate just kept to the truth (and her talking points) and ignored everything else. She got her message across and she won!
Companies have poured in here? Obama pulled the economy from the brink of a depression because Moscow Mitch wouldn’t do anything to supoort Obama’s anything!
Hey Pogo! A lot of the people who defected to the Hamptons and Upstate came back a few weeks ago so it’s been busier. A lot of closed businesses, a lot of (mainly peaceful) protests and a whole lot of cops standing in front of the various Trump Towers. Unfortunately also a lot of people wandering around pushed to the mental health brink. It feels more akin to the post Reagan era I grew up in.
But it’s still New York. And it will carry on in its next new/old life for sure.
The one thing this debate is doing for me is making me furious at the Democratic Party that we did not nominate one of the incredibly brilliant, capable, gifted, and capable of putting together complete sentences, women who run running …..
Biden, while obviously a tad more capable than Mr. T in communicating a coherent thought, is not, in my opinion, doing a great job tonight. That of course is in part because the moderator is not controlling the situation.
Craig, I so hope you are correct that he will lose women voters after this show. BUT I fear that such may not be the case. His supporters are going to rave about how great he is doing/did tonight.
Listening through the door, from a distance, helps. Wallace isn’t a journalist, he’s on team tRUMP, and yet, Joe is holding his own.
tRUMPsky just sounds like he’s in the throws of male menopause.
There wouldn’t have been all of that violence if tRUMP’s white supremacist base hadn’t mixed things up. THE VIOLENCE IS BEING MANUFACTURED BY THE REPUBLICANS. Yes, ALL REPUBLICANS! THEY PROP UP tRUMP, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Next debate needs to have a moderator who will turn on and off the mic at the table of the one who is NOT supposed to be speaking when a specific question has been asked to one of the candidates.
Biden on environment – renewable energy, yes. Weatherized buildings. All to create jobs. And he will rejoin the Paris Accord. There goes BIG mouth, again!
RULES FOR NEXT DEBATE:
TOPICS ARE PROVIDED IN ADVANCE;
EACH CANDIDATE GETS 5 MINUTES OF UNINTERUPPTED TIME TO PROVIDE HIS PLAN FOR/THOUGHTS ON THAT TOPIC. MIC OF ONE CANDIDATE IS TURNED OFF WHILE OTHER IS SPEAKING. DURING THIS 5 MINUTES CANDIDATE MAY NOT, MAY NOT, MENTION THE OTHER CANDIDATE OR TELL US WHAT HIS PLAN IS/WILL DO/CALLS FOR ……. CANDIDATE ONLY TELLS US WHAT HIS PLAN IS
AFTER THOSE 10 MINUTES, MODERATOR ASKS ONE A QUESTION, HE ANSWERS FOR 2 MINUTES, THE OTHER HAS 2 MINUTES TO RESPOND. THIS GOES ON FOR 20 MINUTES, BEFORE GOING TO NEXT TOPIC.
T urging his folks to go into the polls and watch very carefully. I will be watching too you fat orange ah.
Will not answer the question!! What a shock.
“If you showed up looking for a food fight, you got it.
name calling that went to a new level.
At a loss to describe what we just saw.” Lester Holt
“Undignified, cringeworthy, that was crazy”.
“It was a train wreck, but we know who did it. The president”. Chuck Todd
Notice they tRUMP couldn’t say anything against white supremacists. THAT IS HIS ONLY BASE. DO THE REPUGZ IN CONGRESS UNDERSTAND? tRUMP HAS RE-BRANDED REPUBLICANS AS NEO-NAZI ASSHATS.
IMPEACH!
Favorite twitter quote and this was half way in
“The fact that Joe Biden has not dropped an F bomb on this moron yet tells me he has the temperament to be commander in chief.”
I watched the first 20 min. then for my sanity’s sake I turned it off. Went just about as I expected with Trump able to lie faster than you can address the lies. Very few undecided anyway so there is no points for winning or losing.
Being over 65 I can vote absentee, I could under 65 too just lie about being out of town on election day. So that is my plan for tomorrow.
Jack
Jack, you’re probably smarter than those of us who watched this shit show.
Daniel Dale on CNN fact checking the debate says Trump was an avalanche of lies and Biden was relatively accurate. That kind of sums it up. How does that play in Pennsylvania?
tRUMP told his white supremacist, hit squad to “stand by” — Not even a dog whistle. He’s using the freakin’ tornado siren, again. Joe won the debate.
tRUMP just came off as the lying, hateful, imbecilic, unhinged monster that he is.
Can’t wait for Kamala to school Pence.
courtesy of jamie
If I had a few seconds to advise Biden I’d say never even look at Trump, just talk to the camera.
Projection much, Brit?
Fox News’ Brit Hume Says ‘I Don’t Think There’s Any Doubt Biden’s Senile’
Watching Hillary on MSNBC. Good laugh over new release of Russians attacking her tweeted out by Trump campaign even though a footnote ‘we can’t guarantee accuracy”
Jamie, yes, I had a good laugh about the latest GOP lies about, Hillary! Hillary was so spot on about Joe and his mission tonight.
Craig, you’re spot on as well. Don’t take the bait. Don’t even look at Trump. Look at the camera.
Jack on Bink from the previous thread, spot on! I’d know Bink regardless of his Lordships name here :0)
A real treat and priceless.
Naw, Craig, Joe oughta stalk Trump just like Trump stalked Hilary … just to mock his sorry ass. And laugh about it.
Two minute warning. Here we go …
Hi Bob
What’s the Ali line: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
Joe wins the tie contest. More classy
Trump’s fat suit more rumpled than usual
Trump has already repeated two points in his statement.
The person who does T’s makeup should be fired.
Craig, I agree about the tie.
They went very quickly from the Supreme Court appointee issue to ACA …..
Trump… shut the fuck up!
Is there no rule about allowing the other person to speak?
Biden didn’t let the bully interrupt him. Gonna be a long night of this
If I were Biden, I would at some point have to run across the stage and choke that orange neck
Trump is once more rude interruptus
Someone advised T that he will look really tough to his followers if he just constantly interrupts and says whatever he wants.
Getting rid of the individual mandate is not an effing healthcare plan!
The T health care plan …. reduce drug prices.
That a boy Joe…. laugh at him.
Trump is a rude asshole, losing even more women
Bless the moderator’s heart.
“I’m not going to listen to him”. …. BIDEN STOP TAKING HIS BAIT …. after he said not going to listen to him, then he responded to what he said when interrupting.
Biden: “I’m not here to call out his lies. Everybody knows he’s a liar”
Fatass, loudmouth, imbecilic tRUMPsky.
Since he’s talking over everyone, the mute button stays on now and I’ve retreated to the bedroom with my phone and sketchbook.
Gee, if only one of the women he paid to have an abortion would come forward with proof.
Biden: “This man doesn’t know what he’s talking about”
Biden: “Will you shut up man” “Keep yapping man”
Yeah.. this is almost impossible to listen to…
He’s like an ape that needs to be tranquilized
Well, only one person gets to finish a sentence and he can barely form a coherent one. So yeah nearly impossible.
Local debate, years ago, the candidate just kept to the truth (and her talking points) and ignored everything else. She got her message across and she won!
When will the debate commission learn to put an on/off switch on the microphones? Incompetent.
He’s like a piece of shit that needs to be flushed.
TIme for Joe to start talking more directly to camera to the viewers, ignore this jerk
So, they gave tRUMPsky too much coke or too many uppers? Wonder if the “meds” will wear off by the end of the night and he’ll start slurring?
Trump is seething.
Biden talking to viewers now, keep it up
He’s got it currently. Personable, realistic.
We all need to pray for Biden to continue to stay cool, calm, don’t look at him, and speak coherently in complete sentences.
T making it very personal now.
MORON!
Chris Wallace. Jerk
Honest to fucking god.
Joe, Jesus H Christ, state that he can’t even follow the rules of a debate; the only way he can win is to break the rules.
And call the fucker a hypocrite.
Trump is behaving like the guy whose ex-wife called in a restraining order
Trump IS the guy who ex- wives called in restraining orders.
Good call.
Now I’m laughing my butt off at trump!
They ought to SHUT off the mics so that the BIG mouth can’t keep interrupting and bullying.
Shut off the mics.
Wadda bully and liar.
Show us your tax returns.
Tiptoe, yes. Shut the mics off.
Greetings from New York — He’s right, we still haven’t recovered from the gold toned bullying and blights he put on New York forty years ago.
But we’re doing fine.
Pogo tax returns and grades!
That’s right…. because we pay taxes we’re stupid.
Trump I’m throwing up
now
VB, how’s NYC these days?
Geez Wallace is a push-over
Tip, damn skippy.
This is a booming economy?
Trump said he paid “millions” in federal income taxes.
Companies have poured in here? Obama pulled the economy from the brink of a depression because Moscow Mitch wouldn’t do anything to supoort Obama’s anything!
Millions in income tax???? Really??
Biden has just got to keep talking when ass wipe interrupts him
Time to bring up IVANKA and her Chinese junk.
Hey Pogo! A lot of the people who defected to the Hamptons and Upstate came back a few weeks ago so it’s been busier. A lot of closed businesses, a lot of (mainly peaceful) protests and a whole lot of cops standing in front of the various Trump Towers. Unfortunately also a lot of people wandering around pushed to the mental health brink. It feels more akin to the post Reagan era I grew up in.
But it’s still New York. And it will carry on in its next new/old life for sure.
Trump is trying everything he can to fluster Biden. Biden keeps this up he kills Trump. How long is Wallace going to let this shit show go on?
Trump spouts lies over and over.
Thos clown … love it.
Biden: “It’s hard to get any word in with this clown”
JOE talk about his FAMILY!!!
Craig, it is hard to talk while someone else is talking over you. Shut off the mics!
Race, Biden is way better!
I didn’t think I could hate trump anymore than I already do…. I was wrong…
This jackass is dangerous. Biden looks presidential
Trumpity sent in jack boots to the cities!
The one thing this debate is doing for me is making me furious at the Democratic Party that we did not nominate one of the incredibly brilliant, capable, gifted, and capable of putting together complete sentences, women who run running …..
Biden, while obviously a tad more capable than Mr. T in communicating a coherent thought, is not, in my opinion, doing a great job tonight. That of course is in part because the moderator is not controlling the situation.
Rebellious ….. I soooooo agree with you. EVERY.SINGLE.TIME I think I can not be more disgusted with Mr. T, he proves me wrong.
Once again Trump is only stoking deplorables he already has, not gaining a singe new vote. Losing even more women.
I agree with that comment MJ. I wanted Amy.
It’s the Boogaloo boys, white supremacists, Q Anon, and now the Proud Boys who are violent.
Craig, I so hope you are correct that he will lose women voters after this show. BUT I fear that such may not be the case. His supporters are going to rave about how great he is doing/did tonight.
Craig, you’re right!
Biden ought to look directly into camera and say something like “Are you better off with a loudmouth jerk like this in the White House?”
Yep, Craig. LOL…
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/chuck-schumer-forces-health-care-vote/index.html
Chuck and the Dems trying to protect those with pre-existing conditions from the REPUBLICANS ARE THE DEATH PANELS.
He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn. Brilliant
Environment, Biden is right.
Loved the “wrong turn” remark..
Talking people down by the police – YES!!!!
Biden: “He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn”
I honestly think Biden should just walk off the stage
Biden has to stay. Turn off the mics.
Trumpity keeps arguing with Wallace!
Listening through the door, from a distance, helps. Wallace isn’t a journalist, he’s on team tRUMP, and yet, Joe is holding his own.
tRUMPsky just sounds like he’s in the throws of male menopause.
There wouldn’t have been all of that violence if tRUMP’s white supremacist base hadn’t mixed things up. THE VIOLENCE IS BEING MANUFACTURED BY THE REPUBLICANS. Yes, ALL REPUBLICANS! THEY PROP UP tRUMP, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
This is where he loses it
Stand back and STAND BY??? To the white supremacists???
I don’t think I could watch another of these unless the moderator has some balls… let’s bring on a woman moderator.
Next debate needs to have a moderator who will turn on and off the mic at the table of the one who is NOT supposed to be speaking when a specific question has been asked to one of the candidates.
You suck Debate Commission
tRUMP wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him in his fat, white ass.
The tRUMP crime family must go!
Now he’s pro-vets and healthcare? WHAT A GD, effing liar!
He’s got 300 judges.
Bingo.
He brought up Hillary
Or 128 judge openings.
And trumpity mugs when Biden speaks!
Yes Joe… he never keeps his word…
Wow
Hit trumpity’s KIDS!!!
Can we talk about Don Jr.’s drug problem? Or SFB’s? Who is their dealer?
Moderator: What do you believe about the science of climate change?Mr. T: I want crystal clean water and air.
The environment—trumpity is a liar again. Forest management = rake the forest floor. HA!
Burn down all the trees, then there won’t be any more forest fires!
I wish Biden would point out the the lack of forest management is on federal lands, where the majority of fires have been the worst.
Trump = ASSHOLE!!!
This was a disaster. You have trump doing a characature of trump.
And now, dumbass doing stupid shit in forests. Over half of the burning land in CA is federally managed.
LOL…great logic BiD.
I want to see Bob Ross painting in the b.g. as Trump talks about immaculate air and forests….
Amen MJ, that’s the perfect retort. They’re Trump’s forests
I’ll amend my suggested comment. “Are you better off with this lunatic in the White House?”
…buncha Republicans are pissed that Trump just admitted humans can effect climate.
MJ, yes, but he can’t pillory Democrats about federally mismanaged forests.
Bink – I was thinking the same thing!!
4 more years of psychological abuse on a national scale
OK, Craig, I take back what I said earlier about Joe stalking Trump. Look ’em in the eye…
Yeah MJ, he uttered the unutterable
Are we sure this isn’t Alec Baldwin?
Biden on environment – renewable energy, yes. Weatherized buildings. All to create jobs. And he will rejoin the Paris Accord. There goes BIG mouth, again!
When allowed to talk, Biden does know his stuff!
Orange bucket of lard LIAR.
How many points does Biden go up after this shit show?
Joe has every right to address the TV audience directly and say, “Are you better off with this nutjob?”
Has anyone noticed that trump is one ugly mofo?
Perfect, Joe.
Yes…. one ugly orange mofo…
RULES FOR NEXT DEBATE:
TOPICS ARE PROVIDED IN ADVANCE;
EACH CANDIDATE GETS 5 MINUTES OF UNINTERUPPTED TIME TO PROVIDE HIS PLAN FOR/THOUGHTS ON THAT TOPIC. MIC OF ONE CANDIDATE IS TURNED OFF WHILE OTHER IS SPEAKING. DURING THIS 5 MINUTES CANDIDATE MAY NOT, MAY NOT, MENTION THE OTHER CANDIDATE OR TELL US WHAT HIS PLAN IS/WILL DO/CALLS FOR ……. CANDIDATE ONLY TELLS US WHAT HIS PLAN IS
AFTER THOSE 10 MINUTES, MODERATOR ASKS ONE A QUESTION, HE ANSWERS FOR 2 MINUTES, THE OTHER HAS 2 MINUTES TO RESPOND. THIS GOES ON FOR 20 MINUTES, BEFORE GOING TO NEXT TOPIC.
God, he’s still whining and a poor winner!
If Chris Wallace is a T supporter after this shit show, then he needs to have his head examined.
IF trumpity wins, will he whine that it was rigged??
What the FUCK is he talking about?
West Virginia? What. No one offered to sell me a ballot.
T is saying “this is not going to end well.”
Pogo, you missed the ballot memo.
The moderator should be able to turn off the mic’s
Call tRUMP a waaaa-mbulance! What an effing baby! THIS IS HOW HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS LIFE.
LYING
NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
THROWING A TANTRUM LIKE A BABY
Trump is Archie Bunker without the irony.
T urging his folks to go into the polls and watch very carefully. I will be watching too you fat orange ah.
Will not answer the question!! What a shock.
Hopefully it ends with a lightpost
WTH are the poll watchers gonna watch for? Is trumpity’s name on the outside of the ballots?
This is insane.
tRUMP’s people ~found~ ballots. This entire administration is run on wagging the dog.
GOD BLESS JOE BIDEN, KAMALA HARRIS & THE DEMOCRATS!
TO HELL WITH tRUMP AND THE RUSSIAN-REPUBLICANS!
Biden’s smiling. trumpity has his usual sour orange face.
I CAN.NOT wait until the debate between Harris and Pence!!
That was exhausting!
Poobah, Archie Bunker without the irony. Fucking brilliant. I am in awe.
MJ, Harris can easily bury Pence.
“If you showed up looking for a food fight, you got it.
name calling that went to a new level.
At a loss to describe what we just saw.” Lester Holt
“Undignified, cringeworthy, that was crazy”.
“It was a train wreck, but we know who did it. The president”. Chuck Todd
hahaha Wallace so funny you managed a shitshow
The Debate Commission itself should shut this circus down, no more debates this cycle.
Chuck Todd says it you are an undecided vote, this debate probably didn’t help.
Notice they tRUMP couldn’t say anything against white supremacists. THAT IS HIS ONLY BASE. DO THE REPUGZ IN CONGRESS UNDERSTAND? tRUMP HAS RE-BRANDED REPUBLICANS AS NEO-NAZI ASSHATS.
IMPEACH!
Cut the mics and it’ll be more dignified unless trumpty screams.
Craig, I really don’t see any point in having the debates with this negative, loud mouth there.
Wow, someone on CNN just used the word “shitshow”
Good night all. Thanks for the company at the wrestling match.
“T was a supersized version of himself”
how about put a shock collar on that rabid dog
A friend of mine just made the astute point that if we had the debates on zoom — they could mute them.
GOD WHY IS THIS THE ONE THING NOT ON ZOOM THIS YEAR??
Favorite twitter quote and this was half way in
“The fact that Joe Biden has not dropped an F bomb on this moron yet tells me he has the temperament to be commander in chief.”
There was one line that grabbed me. “You’re the worst president America has ever had. “
“ GOD WHY IS THIS THE ONE THING NOT ON ZOOM THIS YEAR??” -VB
Lol
“Shameless and immoral,” says Anderson Cooper. “We can’t be proud of our president.”
“Circus workers are taking offense at this being called a circus”
Had to go to CNN to get voices from both sides. Van Jones and Rick Santorum.
I watched the first 20 min. then for my sanity’s sake I turned it off. Went just about as I expected with Trump able to lie faster than you can address the lies. Very few undecided anyway so there is no points for winning or losing.
Being over 65 I can vote absentee, I could under 65 too just lie about being out of town on election day. So that is my plan for tomorrow.
Jack
oh did you hear Biden use my “social worker in every squad car idea”?!
Hi, Team Biden👋
Jack, you’re probably smarter than those of us who watched this shit show.
Daniel Dale on CNN fact checking the debate says Trump was an avalanche of lies and Biden was relatively accurate. That kind of sums it up. How does that play in Pennsylvania?
Yeah i’m still listening to CNN feed on radio and Van Jones is right, the big take-away is that the President is an unapologetic white supremacist
Axel rod says this was Trump’s greatest hits. He’s right.
NEW THREAD
tRUMP told his white supremacist, hit squad to “stand by” — Not even a dog whistle. He’s using the freakin’ tornado siren, again. Joe won the debate.
tRUMP just came off as the lying, hateful, imbecilic, unhinged monster that he is.
Can’t wait for Kamala to school Pence.