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Jamie44
5 years ago

Any excuse to listen to Sammy, is always welcome.  I was a fan as a child all the way from “My Uncle, My Daddy, and Me” years on variety shows.  Seeing him live was my birthday present for years, and he still remains the only celebrity death that made me cry.  We knew it was coming, but it still felt like a waste particularly after the tribute show where he danced simply because he had to.

 

Jamie44
5 years ago

Patd

or the Rat Pack Las Vegas performance when he was picked up and the NAACP was thanked for the “Award”.  Different time and place.  He still caused a stir as the only black man brave enough to do impressions of white movie stars.  Definitely a mixed bag from a different time and changing mores, but always pushing the envelope with his genius and talent despite never attending a day of school.

The American Masters biography was wonderful. Try to watch if you missed the original broadcast. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/sammy-davis-jr-ive-gotta-be-me-about/10877/

 

Pogo
5 years ago

patd, if your question is asking whether we are in the process of forming the proverbial circular firing squad, the answer IMHO is yes.  Anyone who believes that the dance done in the last Democratic presidential primary did not damage the nominee in the general election has a short memory.  So long as Bernie! is in this race we’ll see whether the candidates can stick with their own messages and try to get enough states to carry the nomination without resorting to the shade casting that went on the last time.  Thus far I haven’t seen Bernie’s campaign starting down that road, but I can’t say the same for his supporters.  Five years down the road, Lucy Flores complains that Joe’s physical affection when he was offering to help with her 2014 campaign for congress – which she said she never thought was sexual or intended to be – is an affront that somehow needs to be aired – on what we probably all think is the eve of Joe’s entering the nominating process against her chosen candidate.  As WaPo noted in its Vieback, et al piece today “I had never experienced anything so blatantly inappropriate and unnerving before,” Flores wrote for The Cut, a blog published by New York magazine. “The vice-president of the United States of America had just touched me in an intimate way reserved for close friends, family, or romantic partners — and I felt powerless to do anything about it.” During an interview Saturday, Flores… Read more »

Katherine Graham Cracker
5 years ago

Again not the only time Biden has put his hands all over someone

there are plenty of examples

Stop defending someone who doesn’t deserve it

RebelliousRenee
5 years ago

I loved it when Sammy was on All In The Family…  that kiss he gave Archie was precious.

I will not be voting for Biden in the primary.   OK…  at one time men took liberties with touching women that were inappropriate.  They are now on alert that it’s no longer acceptable.  IMO, forgive the stuff unless it was really physically abusive.

BTW…  loved Bill Maher’s joke this past Friday of Biden asking the question “is there good film in there” when someone used a cell phone to take a selfie with him.                                                                                                  

Jamie44
5 years ago

Love the Trailmixer cartoon.  Dibsies on the Brazil Nut

 

Pogo
5 years ago

patd, I’m with you on Flores. Not sure what her exact motive is, but her apparent motive considering her support of Bernie! is certainly suspect.

And KC, calling out misrepresentations the “victims” dispute is not defending someone who doesn’t deserve it.  I’ve been silent about stupid allegations against other candidates because I either didn’t believe them or I didn’t want to give legs to stuff floated both by the RWNJs out there and the more extreme factions of the Dem Party.  I’ll continue to do that – and where the lies floated are demonstrably false I’ll post the counter information if I see it.  Listen, Joe has been too friendly and touchy in the past by post-#MeToo standards. He’s being painted with too broad a brush IMHO and the insinuations and much of what’s been posted are utter bullshit.  Don’t like him?  Don’t vote for him.  You think he’s too old or represents a Democratic party that has ceased to exist? Don’t vote for him.  You think he’s a perve? Don’t vote for him. But don’t condemn him for bullshit generated by his opponents. That’s what will us get a second trump administration.

Pogo
5 years ago

OK, enough Dem internecine squabbling for now – let’s get to the important stuff of the hour – bracketology.  No, not NCAA basketball bracketology – but the worst SFB cabinet member bracketology from David Drezner.

Last year, I took advantage of America’s obsession with NCAA brackets to ask a very important question: “Who is the worst member of Trump’s Cabinet?” The winner, as selected by Twitter poll, was Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt, which may explain why he stepped down two months later. Another finalist, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, also departed in the past year.

With all the turnover in Trump’s Cabinet, 2019 is a brand-new race, so it’s time to list the top six seeds again! Although there are some returning favorites, do not count out some of the newcomers to Team Trump!

Drezner counts them down from 1-6.  There are some obvious choices in the mix, but you are bound to quibble about the order of the top 6.  My top 3 would be Ross, Neilsen and DeVoss in that order.   How do you rank them?

Bink
5 years ago

Biden uses touching to reinforce his position of power in a social siuation.  As the superior, he believes he can touch people in ways he deems appropriate.  By contrast, a subordinate is not afforded the same liberties because they lack sufficient hierarchical standing in social settings.   This kind of dynamic went unchallenged for generations, but now social media is providing channels for criticism of it.

 

All that said, “keep your hands to yourselves” is a standard so basic, we expect young children to follow it.

Katherine Graham Cracker
5 years ago

there is a huge I say huge difference between what Biden does and what a hug on the rope line is

He’s your guy great but he has been anti abortion in the past and certainly the Anita Hill hearing’ s were not his finest hour but don’t pretend he acted appropriately.  Maybe you think it isn’t disqualifying but I do

For the most part, men don’t try to fondle me in public places during political events – although I have gotten an occasional act that I thought was a bit forward.  If someone tried to smell my head and kiss the top of it without some prior discussion  I would flatten them on the spot

Katherine Graham Cracker
5 years ago

If Kamala Harris sniffed someone’s head and kissed them on the head — I cannot even imagine the kerfuffle that would result

I thought Bink did a good job of explaining the problem

Katherine Graham Cracker
5 years ago

I think if Democrats could they would get SFB for that behavior but SFB’s behavior is a Republican problem and they don’t care but that is all the more reason for Democrats to care and to act.

No one who thinks thinks that SFB is anything but a sleazy woman hating asshole — after all this is a man who would have had sex with his daughter if he could havr gotten a way with it.

Unfortunately he has the Republican Guard to protect him.  And the Saudi’s too

Katherine Graham Cracker
5 years ago

I can’t believe people are using the argument  –what about Trump to dismiss the charges against Biden

pretty lame and basically saying if it’s ok for Trump then it’s ok for everyone else.  jeesh

Pogo
5 years ago

False equivalence. Right here on the trail. I call bullshit. No one here –  NO ONE – has said that there is any comparison between SFB grabbing pussies and screwing porn stars with Biden’s actions touching shoulders and kissing heads – unless you are. Shoulders do not equal pussies. GMAFB.

Patd, back to your initial question- a goddam fool. We have a goddam idiot of a president doing all sorts of stupid shit today and we’re worried about whether Joe Biden meant to be nice or pervy to a failed politician five years ago. How fucking foolish is that?

Pogo
5 years ago

I’m not a huge follower of Karen Tumulty but she’s making sense today at WaPo

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway pronounced on Fox News Sunday that Biden has a “big problem,” which was more than a little ironic coming from someone whose boss was elected president amid multiple accusations of sexual assault and after declaring he liked to grab women by their genitals.

On Monday, another woman, former congressional aide Amy Lappos, told the Hartford Courant that Biden rubbed noses with her at a 2009 fundraiser in Connecticut.

What we all are learning, we should hope, is that we should respect women who have the courage to come forward about their experiences with unwanted physical contact. They deserve the benefit of the doubt both about their versions of events and about how they were made to feel.

But it is also important — and a sign that a social movement is maturing into a social norm — to recognize that not every offense is of equal severity.

Also worth factoring in is whether an alleged perpetrator was acting with malevolence or just cluelessness. Flores indicated that she believed Biden’s actions were demeaning and disrespectful, but not violent or sexual. Nor does it sound like a power move on Biden’s part.

We state so much we believe to be factual or at least obvious. There is a contrary viewpoint that when expressed articulately make sense.

xrepublican
5 years ago

Let us not compare the rubber of noses to the POTUS = Pisser Of The United States.