No Plan For Already Separated Families

President Trump’s much-hyped executive order doesn’t address what happens to families already separated. (Hint: They don’t even know how to find a lot of the parents.)

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Author: craigcrawford

Trail Mix Host. Lapsed journalist, author & retired pundit happily promoting nothing but the truth for Social Security checks.

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patd
6 years ago

a tot in his terrible twos (this is the twit’s 2nd yr)

Trump Threw Starbursts At Angela Merkel During G7 Summit
[…]
“Trump was sitting there with his arms crossed, clearly not liking the fact that they were ganging up on him,” Bremmer said, New York Post reported.
“He eventually agreed and said OK, he’ll sign it. And at that point, he stood up, put his hand in his pocket, his suit jacket pocket, and he took two Starburst candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, ‘Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything,” he said, adding that it showed Trump’s “emotional state.”
[….continues….]
 

patd
6 years ago

from the guardian:
Without Trump administration plan to reunite families, burden falls to NGOs

 

Organisations say bringing parents and children back together is an enormous puzzle with no single, clear system

 

patd
6 years ago

also from the guardian on a different topic:
Federal prosecutors issued a subpoena to the National Enquirer’s publisher for records pertaining to a $150,000 payment the magazine made before the 2016 presidential election to Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model who has said she had an affair with Donald Trump.
 
The subpoena, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, was issued this spring by prosecutors in the southern district of New York, who are investigating the former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen for alleged wire fraud, bank fraud and campaign finance violations.
David Pecker, the National Enquirer publisher, is a friend and supporter of Trump. After paying McDougal six figures for exclusive rights to her story of an alleged affair with Trump, the magazine, which bolstered Trump throughout his presidential campaign, declined to publish the story.
 
Prosecutors reportedly want to know whether a side deal was attached to the payment from Pecker to McDougal.
 
Phone records show that Cohen and Pecker were in frequent contact around the time of the payment to McDougal in August 2016, the Journal quoted an unnamed source familiar with the matter as saying.
[….continues…]

patd
6 years ago

newsweek:
Comedian Samantha Bee has mocked President Donald Trump’s executive order rescinding the family separation policy, commenting migrant detention camps had gone from “baby interment camps” to “Mommy and Me jails.”
Bee took to her show on Wednesday evening shortly after the president announced he was ending the controversial policy that saw families found to be illegally crossing the border into the U.S. separated.
“Yay! No more baby interment camps, just regular internment camps. Cool! That’s what we call a win in 2018,” Bee said on Full Frontal. “To be clear, I am happy that at least these kids are theoretically are gonna stay with their parents, but Mommy & Me Jails are not a solution.”
She added that the U.S. had “tried the family detention things before,” commenting that it was “very not good.”
 

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

It is a holy day…summer solstice.  And the reason I mention the dry, but hot heat?  Tornillo, TX is 90 miles southeast of here and those poor kids that haven’t been shipped-out to other cities?  Sweltering inside a big box.  The kids need water and then they need bathrooms.  How do they access all of that in a cage?  I have been haunted since last night when I saw the kids from the border in New York.  These kids have no rights or advocates.  Sneaky feds moving children throughout the country without any transparency.  Who is tracking this?  What is this costing us both in dollars and SENSE?  Forget about goodwill.  trump blew that up months ago.

It just cooled below 80 and I have to get my gardening done early as today is my watering day.  Once the sun is up?  Too hot.   Just really bothered by the mess made on the border because Mexico is not going to pay for a stupid wall no matter how much the moron-idiot-imbecile acts-out.  He must be terrified of jail and impeachment.

Update on the Mars dust storm.

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Today is the longest day of the year…but every day of the Trump administration feels like the longest day of they year.

 

patd
6 years ago

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patd
6 years ago

The Story Behind TIME‘s Trump ‘Welcome to America’ Cover

 
John Moore, a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer for Getty Images, has been photographing immigrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border for years. This week one of his pictures became the most visible symbol of the immigration debate in America.
 
“This one was tough for me. As soon as it was over, they were put into a van. I had to stop and take deep breaths,” Moore told TIME Tuesday, describing his reaction to the scene of a two-year-old Honduran girl crying as her mother was being detained in McAllen, Texas. “All I wanted to do was pick her up. But I couldn’t.”
Due to the power of the image, which appeared as critics from across the political spectrum attacked President Trump’s now-reversed policy of separating children from parents who are being detained for illegally entering the United States, TIME’s editors selected Moore’s photograph to create a photo illustration, including Trump, to make the July 2, 2018, cover of the magazine.

patd
6 years ago

david and goliath circa 2018 a.d.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

But, more sunlight today…so maybe we’ll get rid of more vampires.

Pogo
6 years ago

Summer solstice. Maybe I’ll grill after work if the thunderstorms have finished with us. Just saw what looks like a terrific burger recipe from Charleston SC I want to take for a spin.

xrepublican
6 years ago

It’s a good thing he didn’t have a big mac in his pocket. Lucky Merkel.

xrepublican
6 years ago

So, now Mueller’s team is inspecting trump’s tiny friend, his little pecker.

Someone was bound to do it, why shouldn’t take the blame ?

Happy Summer, everyone !

patd
6 years ago
patd
6 years ago

to speaker ryan and leader mcconnell,
Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;
 
To turn aside the needy from judgment, ……   [ Isaiah 10:1 KJV ]

Jamie44
6 years ago

“I don’t want to rip families apart. I don’t want to be sending parents away from children. I don’t want to see the deportation force that Donald has talked about in action in our country.”
—Hillary Clinton, 3rd Presidential Debate, 10/19/16
You all knew what was on the ballot

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

A child held for 85 days when he was returned he had lice and looked like he had not been bathed for the entire 85 days.  Not too mention the emotional problems

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

People asking for asylum are not entering the country illegally
In part the asylum seekers are conforted with a bail issue
You can contribute to a bail funds
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-what-it-costs-to-free-one-immigrant-from-detention-2018-06-20

Bail if also an issue for many Americans bail funds are being established in many communities while work is done to make the system more equitable.
our stupid funking president wants the justice system to be mre equitable reform the bail system fck face

patd
6 years ago

mediaite:

Trump Whines That His Opponents Are Called ‘Elite’: ‘I’m Richer Than They Are’

“Do you ever notice they always call the other side — and they do this sometimes — the elite?” President Donald Trump said Wednesday night at a rally in Duluth, MN. “The elite!”
The Seinfeld-ian “Did you ever notice?” query was lobbed in the direction of the president’s audience in the waning moments of the Wednesday night speech. Trump said the thought suddenly occurred to him.
“Why are they elite?” Trump said. “I have a much better apartment than they do. I’m smarter than they are. I’m richer they are. I became president and they didn’t.”
The crowd let up a huge cheer.

 

patd
6 years ago

wapo editorial board:  
Repugnant
 
REP. ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, a Florida Republican, is no bomb-thrower or name- ­caller. But when President Trump this week said immigrants would “infest” the United States, she called the comment “repugnant, reprehensible and repulsive.”
 
We also try not to toss insults around. We believe in civil discourse and in trying to understand the other side’s point of view. But when it comes to tearing children away from their parents at the southern border, there is only one legitimate side. Mr. Trump’s policy for the past weeks has been repugnant, reprehensible and repulsive. It could be justified only by those who view Salvadorans and Hondurans not as humans who deserve to live but as animals — as pests — who “infest.”
 
We don’t casually use the word “lie,” either. But Mr. Trump and his secretary of homeland security, Kirstjen Nielsen, have been lying about the crisis at the border. It began April 6, when Attorney General Jeff Sessions declared an immediate “zero-tolerance” policy for everyone crossing illegally from Mexico. At any moment, Mr. Trump had it within his power to reverse that policy. Yet the administration maintained that it was powerless, that Democrats were at fault and that only an act of Congress could keep families together.
Now, faced with so much public opposition that Republicans were fearing for their midterm election prospects, Mr. Trump has taken all that back. On Wednesday he signed an executive order that he says will ensure families remain unified. If this does not just become another way of stockpiling migrants, and if the administration implements the order competently and humanely — which certainly cannot be assumed — it will be an improvement.
 
But all the damage can’t be undone, and certainly all the lessons shouldn’t be unlearned. The zero-tolerance policy was implemented so chaotically, with so little forethought — with about as much care as you would expend on infesting animals — that one former U.S. immigration chief warned that some parents may never find their children again. Even for those who are reunited — and children were being torn away at a rate of some 400 per week — the trauma will cause lasting harm to some. Nor will the injury to America’s reputation abroad be easily repaired.
 
As to lessons, if this episode of barbarism really is coming to an end, we should take heart that the American people rallied to the side of civilization, and that they could still make their voice heard through Congress. Reporters did the job they are meant to do, dispatching stories in audio, video, photo and written form, and Americans understood that — whatever the complexities of immigration law and immigration reform — this was wrong. Some officials and politicians understood that, too, and some did not. It will be important to remember which was which.
And it’s important to note that even now, as he promised on Wednesday to reverse his policy of breaking families apart, Mr. Trump and his administration continued to trade in larger untruths about immigration to dehumanize and spread fear. In fact, immigration rates are not soaring. In fact, dangerous criminals are not streaming in from the Middle East. In fact, immigrants — legal and illegal — commit crime at a lower rate than native-born Americans. In fact, most immigrants are doing what they have always done: helping to build up America and secure a better life for their children.
 
A more honorable president would respect their hard work and humanity.

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

The biggest roadblock is the Trump supporters.
What is wrong with these people that they would abandon all morality to support someone like that.  And most of the claim some sort of religious faith.   They must be members of the Church of Mamon I hope the god they pretend the honor does exist because they will spend eternity in hell

whskyjack
6 years ago

They don’t even know how to find a lot of the parents.

I gotta call Bullshit on that one

Lets assume the border patrol is so incompetent that they just separated out the children from the adults as a   herd with no names just the herd designation.  They know where the parent herd is and they know where the child herd is. They may not know who belongs to whom, but so what. I can still unite parents and children in less than an hour. Just like  I would cows and calves. Put them in the same pen and they will sort themselves out. After all the last number I heard was 2000 children so at most we are talking about 6000 people.

The problem is in the “want to” not in the doing.

Jack

Flatus
6 years ago

God, this so much makes me want to enter rebellion against our government and its agents that implement the policies Trump so gleefully promulgates. Our only hope is the Mid-term elections; we must purge the unrepentant replacing them with the enlightened.

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

what about when they no longer know where the parents are since some have already been deported

solarcrete
6 years ago

Someone doing their job out there should demand that pictures of every man, women and child be taken.  Including those that were deported already..   Create a data base.  At each prison center, create an identification wall that people could identify their parents, children etc.  I think that this would go a long way to reuniting them.

Ive been going to bed trying to use quantum entanglement to send out the best vibrations that i can for all of these kids….also add the rest of the worlds kids to it.  If you sit quietly and take a few deep breaths, Put the pad of your thumb onto the pad of your index finger and just send out the best feeling that you can to all of these people…project your intention to get them together, picture them getting together….it can happen……..so Lurkers, and everyone…..do this often.

 

Dedicate a specific time for a few million people to do this….and it will happen…..that is how we are connected….we are all one……………..Einstein called this “Spooky”  we all share dna with each other….we emit about 8ft or so of healing  vibrations from our bodies…….imagine millions of people doing this at the same time…….at 9 am and at 9pm..  Just throwing out some ideas out there….hope that some smart caring people can get some kind of program together………later raining softly, going for  barefoot walk (grounding) collecting all of mother earths electrons that i can get……and send them out to these people……..when breathing in…..breath in the energy….when breathing out….send this energy to these kids……….can be done anything of the day….indoors or out doors……..

Has Shummer or Pelosi solved this yet….do they know who is making a ton of money out of all this……have they come up with any plans to unite these people…..where are our leaders?

 

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

We admit we are too old to go to Texas and march around but we have sent money to the bail fund and are looking for a travel fund for people who do want to go.  I think this is an issue that cannot be dropped and must be pursued until it really ends and all the children are back with their families.  The goopers cannot hide behind bullshit on this — they are either for it or against it.  there is no middle

solarcrete
6 years ago

Every living thing, be it plant, animal, or human has the vibrations of the universe inside of them.  Send them out.:

 

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

The same type of organizing done to defeat repeal of the health care law should be done here town halls, sitting in congressional offices and keeping the heat on

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

17 people who had their kids taken have had all charges dismissed  — now what.  I hope they end up with really good lawyers and sue us

patd
6 years ago

jack,  some have fallen thru the cracks like in this case reported a couple of days ago in the ny times:

They’d had a plan: Elsa Johana Ortiz Enriquez packed up what little she had in Guatemala and traveled across Mexico with her 8-year-old son, Anthony. In a group, they rafted across the Rio Grande into Texas. From there they intended to join her boyfriend, Edgar, who had found a construction job in the United States.
Except it all went wrong. The Border Patrol was waiting as they made their way from the border on May 26, and soon mother and son were in a teeming detention center in southern Texas. The next part unfolded so swiftly that, even now, Ms. Ortiz cannot grasp it: Anthony was sent to a shelter for migrant children. And she was put on a plane back to Guatemala.
“I am completely devastated,” Ms. Ortiz, 25, said in one of a series of video interviews last week from her family home in Guatemala. Her eyes swollen from weeping and her voice subdued, she said she had no idea when or how she would see her son again.
As the federal government continues to separate families as part of a stepped-up enforcement program against those who cross the border illegally, the authorities say that parents are not supposed to be deported without their children. But immigration lawyers say that has happened in several cases. And the separations can be traumatic for parents who now have no clear path to recovering their children.

“From our work on the border, we have seen a significant increase in the number of moms separated from their children, and many of them have reported they didn’t even have a chance to say goodbye before the separation, “ said Laura Tuell, the global pro bono counsel at Jones Day, an international law firm providing assistance to refugees in Texas, whose lawyers spoke with Ms. Ortiz.
“Some of the women we have encountered in detention at the border have reported facing pressure to deport voluntarily in order to be reunified with their children,” she said.
Critics say that Ms. Ortiz’s saga is the latest indication that the administration’s new enforcement strategy was rolled out without adequate planning. The processing and detention of migrant families can involve three Homeland Security agencies — Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Citizenship and Immigration Services — as well as the departments of Justice and Health and Human Services. Poor coordination among them has made it hard to track children and parents once their paths diverge in the labyrinthine system.
 

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

Melanoma goes south…maybe I’m just too old and cynical but this looks like showboating to me — there is nothing she can do or will do   –more fake empathy from the wh

 

patd
6 years ago

jack,  someone who’s been there tells how it happens in some cases in this nbc report:
The former head of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told NBC News that migrant parents separated from their children at the border are sometimes unable to relocate their child and remain permanently separated.
Permanent separation. It happens,” said John Sandweg, who served as acting director of ICE under the Obama administration from 2013-2014.
While a parent can quickly move from detention to deportation, a child’s case for asylum or deportation may not be heard by a judge for several years because deporting a child is a lower priority for the courts, Sandweg explained.
“You could easily end up in a situation where the gap between a parent’s deportation and a child’s deportation is years,” Sandweg said.
As a result, parents may find themselves back in their home countries struggling to find their children. Many do not have access to legal counsel or understand the U.S. immigration or judicial systems.

Children who stay in the foster system for lengthy periods of time may become wards of the state and finally adopted.
[….]
Sandweg says he has seen permanent separation happen when a parent is deported without his or her child.

“This is why family unity was critical for us. With the numbers of families crossing ticking up, [the] Obama administration was concerned about children being left behind,” said Sandweg.
[…continues…]

patd
6 years ago

the hill:  Mueller wants questionnaire to determine media impact on potential Manafort jurors

 
Special counsel Robert Mueller filed a motion Thursday requesting that potential jurors in the upcoming trial against Paul Manafort fill out a questionnaire to determine if they’re biased in the case, citing “widespread media attention.”
The motion, filed in federal court in Alexandria, Va., includes proposed questions to be asked of possible jurors. Politico first reported on the filing.
The document states that the reporting surrounding the case “at times inaccurately, comments on the nature of the evidence collected in the case or activities of the parties.”
[….continues…]

patd
6 years ago

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blueINdallas
6 years ago

DNA tests are cheap.  They can match them up if they want.  Of course, some may have come with an unrelated adult.

As for cost, I had a conversation with someone today & yes, the little children but…they can’t keep coming because of benefits.  Huh?    They work.  They make very little, but they work.  Let’s call out the actual welfare queens; the 1%, the corporate tax-cut recipients, the CEOs of detention facilities.

Then I got a confusing, probably BS comment, about a Thomas Jefferson quote during the French Revolution.  WTF!?!  Must be some talking point Trumpco has trotted out.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Propaganda, having Melania go to a prepped facility.  Doubtful that she will interact with kids have lice or who are crying hysterically.

DiBlasio says kids at facilities have lice, bedbugs & chicken pox.  Yep.  Welcome to the USA, kids.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Sara Netanyahu, wife of Israeli PM, charged with fraud https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/middleeast/sara-netanyahu-indicted-intl/index.html

 

sjwny
6 years ago

 

Where are our leaders?” – solar

Exactly.

I respect the wonderful people here & their compassion for their Party but …. the Democratic leadership has dismally let this country down. The rise, election & enacting of the Trump administration is a gift from the gods for any oppositional Party with the competence to seize the day & exploit it to the fullest. I just heard President Trump scorch the Democrats for just about everything. Seriously. The Democrats will respond, but that’s the point. The Republicans are proactive, the Democrats are always reactive.  Always behind the ball. Real leadership grabs the ball & runs with it, no matter the odds, in fact in spite of the odds. Be out in front. Grab the headline, steer the story. Always stuck at the back of the parade means little public attraction & dodging lots of poop.

Solar, you are full of great wisdom.

*****

About the photo of the little girl separated from her mother: I hope the photographer & every other publication that uses it saves a % of any profits made & gives the $ to the little girl in a trust fund. Even if the “right” side uses it to make a point against Trump isn’t it still exploitation of a horrible situation? Here’s hoping the $ rolls in for that poor exploited child from whomever is exploiting her.

 

patd
6 years ago

bbc:

Confusion reigns over fate of detained migrant children

Flatus
6 years ago

The Democratic Immigration Bill should probably come to the House floor at about 1730 EDT. The repugnant bill (including wall) was soundly defeated. Tomorrow’s proposal will be on coinage of the “Plug” Nickle. It will be in remembrance of SFB.

patd
6 years ago

flatus, any word whether the senate’s bipartisan bill that got 54 for 45 against vote in feb. will be revived? 

patd
6 years ago

oops
 

the guardian:
Melania Trump wears ‘I don’t care’ jacket on visit to child detention center

The first lady appeared to be wearing a Zara jacket with the astonishing caption: ‘I really don’t care. Do U?’

When Melania Trump met with detained children at the Texas border on Thursday, she struck a compassionate tone, asking staff at the facility: “How I can help … these children to reunite with their families as quickly as possible?”
Earlier in the day, though, the first lady’s attire sent a different message. As she boarded a plane to Texas, she appeared to be wearing a Zara jacket with the astonishing caption: “I really don’t care. Do U?”
 
Photos taken as she boarded the plane at Andrews airbase didn’t capture the jacket’s full text, but it seems to be the same as the one that costs $39 and is available from the Zara website.
According to a pool report, Trump’s communications director Stephanie Grisham told a reporter via email: “It’s a jacket. There was no hidden message. After today’s important visit to Texas, I hope the media isn’t going to choose to focus on her wardrobe.”

[….]
It’s not clear whether this jacket is a nod to those concerned that she is being too soft on immigration, or was simply a major wardrobe malfunction.
 
It is, however, unusual for Melania Trump to wear inexpensive clothes when on public business. At the G7 summit last year, she wore a floral coat worth $51,000. While arriving back from a trip last June, she was spotted carrying an overnight bag: a Hermès Birkin bag worth $13,500.

patd
6 years ago

someone out to get mel?  wardrobe flub sabotage?

patd
6 years ago

my bet is, if that’s her coat (that says “I really don’t care. Do U”), she got it to rile the twit some time ago.

Flatus
6 years ago

Pat, I don’t have the Senate side of CSpan, but on the house side they mentioned a near unanimous Senate version being in the wings. There is another house version (HR4760) being debated now

Blue Bronc
6 years ago

Again, SFB has caused a lot of action here.  Not much of the day was normal, but The lovely and talented virgin Ms SFB showed up at a rain soaked border concentration camp.  Shown through the cells, which for some reason did not look exactly like the concentration camp pictures given out a couple days ago, she asked qood questions for a FLOTUS.

Once again the WH screwed a good photo op with their completely inept behaviour.  Did the magnificently coiffed First Lady wear the coat with a hateful statement on it on purpose?  Or did the uniquely high approval rating interesting immigration history royal be given it because she would never figure out how inappropriate the statement is?

Jamie44
6 years ago

Craig

That is a good question.  The “Sagebrush Rebellion” is all about hating Federal ownership of land the ranchers and state’s rights folk desire to return it to private hands.  These are the same people who politically are right wingers and likely to be Trump supporters.

On the border, most people who live there hate the whole idea of eminent domain.  They have land that will be divided by the fence even though their land on the southern side of the fence will still be in the US but they can’t get to it or need to go miles out of their way to access gates.  They all know the easy relationship that has existed with people going back and forth with no problem on the border for decades.

Unfortunately the haters and racists preached to for three decades by Faux Spews are scared to death of Hispanics even though they don’t live within hundreds of miles of the border.

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

Melania’s message was meant for the American public — this is the woman photographed eating jewelry

Flatus
6 years ago

I can recall a couple of things that tended to form Easterners’ conceptions of people from South of the Border. The first was the book Blackboard Jungle from the late 1950s, and the second was the movie The Alamo with the Mexican forces moving as automatons.

I served with many of these folks–I have nothing but good to say about the ones I know.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

Elaine Chao at Forbes Women’s Summit having replaced Nikki Haley ……45 minutes late, then demands 45 min hair and make-up.

 

Sturgeone
6 years ago

Work with many South of the borderans here…..not a slouch in the whole bunch…..play Latino music all day, laugh a lot and work their bloody arses off…..

fine people all the way around.

It’s the Anglos who walk around bitching and moaning, being late, not showing up……

RebelliousRenee
6 years ago

We had a new roof put on about 4 years ago.  We hired a local company….  they used Mexicans to do the labor.  We were told they were paid equatable regardless of race…   BUT…  they always show up to work on time…  they work efficiently…   and they never take a liquid lunch.  They did a superb job and we thought it was worth every penny.

Blue Bronc
6 years ago

Internet reporting Charles Krauthammer died.  Although far right wrong on most issues, he was a good person. He did not want SFB elected.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Why would anyone need to wear a jacket in south TX, on the first day of summer? (I know there was rain around, but didn’t see umbrellas. And when it’s hot & sticky, a jacket in the rain…why?

Melania’s  jacket was an intentional; it was an attempt to take some of the focus off of the kids.

The visit did nothing to soften the image of Trumpco with regard to these children.

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Federal judge rules that CFPB’s structure is unconstitutional http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/21/news/economy/cfpb-unconstitutional-federal-ruling/index.html

 

Sturgeone
6 years ago

The jacket was for him.   There is no doubt about it. His tweet about the jacket was a feeble little petulant child LIE, him knowing she couldn’t possibly contradict him…..The tweet and the jacket are the war of the roses between THEM.   We just get to see it.

but the jacket was for him…….

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Makes more sense than what he said; that she wore it for the media/fake news. (I guess taking focus off of the children was just a bonus.)

 

 

Nikki Hayley’s political capital is now completely in the crapper.

Haley blasts human rights groups in blistering letter https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/politics/haley-human-rights-groups-spat/index.html

Jamie44
6 years ago

Spent a lot of time on an uncle’s raisin ranch with the braceros coming in every year for the harvest and drying of the grapes.  They came with wives and children.  My cousins and I would sneak out every morning for hand made tortillas.  It was a party every year as long as you didn’t mind working your ass off.  I first learned to drive at seven because uncle made the mistake of only having girls and somebody had to drive the flatbeds.

patd
6 years ago

sturge, that’s what I think too.  can’t you imagine the quiet chuckle she got out of walking to the wh copter or up the air force one stairs ahead of him while wearing it?   probably did a little sashay and stall just to be sure he read it.

patd
6 years ago

her idea of a “i’m with stupid” shirt

patd
6 years ago

(Reuters) – Most Americans think President Donald Trump should agree to an interview with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, if asked, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll shows.

** Sixty percent of U.S. adults said President Trump should agree to an interview with Special Counsel Mueller, to answer questions about whether there was any coordination between associates of Trump’s 2016 election campaign and Russia.
** Fifty percent of registered Republicans said in the poll that Trump should not agree to an interview with Mueller while more than 1 in 3 said he should. Eighty-three percent of registered Democrats said they were in favor of the meeting.

** In recent months, Trump has threatened to fire Mueller, drawing bipartisan criticism from lawmakers and the public. A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted in May showed that 40 percent of Americans said Trump should not fire Mueller, while 27 percent said he should and 34 said they were unsure.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed 3,532 adults across the United States online and in English from June 9-18. It has a credibility interval, a margin of error, of about 2 percentage points.
 

Pogo
6 years ago

Patd, your 8:18 comment is just furking perfect.

Pogo
6 years ago

Poobah, where’s the funding for the takings on the border coming from?

Sturgeone
6 years ago

It is very hot right now, jacket is crazy.

The jacket is a tacky little thing…..$39.

Ergo the jacket was on purpose.

a $39 jacket…..Do we know anyone who would be infuriated over his wife wearing a cheap jacket?  A jacket which, by the way, basically said  “F You”.

Little Johnny, frantically waving his hand around,:  ” I know! I know!”

patd
6 years ago

business insider:
President Donald Trump has complete control over the one factor that could determine whether Michael Cohen, his former longtime lawyer, flips on him.
The Wall Street Journal reported that Cohen, facing mounting pressure from a federal investigation into him, is worried his legal fees are “bankrupting” him and wants Trump to foot the bill.
While the Trump campaign and Trump family covered a portion of Cohen’s legal fees related to the Russia probe and the Manhattan US attorney’s office investigation into him, they reportedly did not agree to cover his full fees.
Ketan Jhaveri, a former antitrust lawyer from the Department of Justice (DOJ), said Trump’s apparent refusal to cover Cohen’s legal fees is surprising, given that it was a driving factor in other witness’ decisions to flip.
Former national security adviser Michael Flynn entered into a plea deal with the special counsel Robert Mueller last year because he was worried about the cost of fighting the charges against him. Flynn’s family set up a legal defense fund to help cover the costs, and earlier this year, it emerged that Flynn was selling his house to offset the financial burden even after pleading guilty.
Former Trump campaign deputy chairman Rick Gates said in a February letter that he changed his mind and decided to cooperate with prosecutors after accounting for “how long this legal process will likely take, the cost, and the circus-like atmosphere of an anticipated trial.”
Jhaveri is the co-CEO of Bodhala, a tech platform that helps companies analyze their legal spending. He said that based on the firm’s analysis, Cohen’s legal fees in just the seven weeks since the FBI raided his property are likely a little over $5.1 million.
Alex Whiting, a longtime former federal prosecutor in Boston and Washington, DC, said it was “baffling” that Trump “would pick a fight on this because it certainly increases the chance that Cohen flips.”
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Experts say that given what Cohen could know and his longtime position in Trump’s inner circle, his cooperation could be legally fatal for the president.
“In the organized crime world, high-level bosses often pay the legal fees of their underlings to help ensure that they remain loyal,” Whiting said. “Here Trump could anticipate that a refusal to help Cohen out could leave him feeling both financial pressure to cooperate and less loyalty towards Trump.”
Jhaveri offered a possible explanation for why Trump is freezing out his former lawyer: hubris.
Trump and his family members have a documented history of profiting off the presidency since he took office last year.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

Yes bingo……from whence the funding……and then: TO WHOM?

Pogo
6 years ago

Sorry for the serial posts, but having to work during daylight hours and catch up later.

Weve got clusters of sud borderians around here. They are in the three local Mexican restaurants (duh), hardscape contractors, and oddly enough at NY Pizza (which has terrific pizza, Italian and Mexican food).  From what I can tell they work as hard here or harder than the Mexicans that I have seen work in Mexico. Regardless, the brown skinned people in this area are among the hardest working people I’ve ever seen. And as far as I’m concerned they are more than welcome to move into my neighborhood – particularly if they displace the asshole Texas, Oklahoma and Indiana oil and gas workers. Oh, and that prick from Colorado who insists upon parking her fucking truck in front of our office and blocking our front steps access.

sjwny
6 years ago

June 21, 1964.

 

Pogo
6 years ago

Sturge, the money has to go to the landholders from whom they steal the fucking land. The government can’t just take your land, they have to pay you fair market value for it. I’m guessing that no one told SFB this.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

“Big GOP donor & private prison builder/operator,the GEO Group received additional $184Million in fy 2017 for migrant detention services & ‘residential & training facilities’ for children, complained in Nov 2017 of too many empty beds. Problem solved 2018. 

—-zevi

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Koko, the gorilla who mastered sign language, has died https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/health/koko-gorilla-death-trnd/index.html

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

The Trump/casino experience with eminent domain erred on the side of the casinos