Border Wars

McALLEN, Texas (AP) — “Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside.”

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Author: craigcrawford

Trail Mix Host. Lapsed journalist, author & retired pundit happily promoting nothing but the truth for Social Security checks.

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patd
6 years ago

from the guardian:
An editorial in the People’s Daily on Saturday said the latest trade provocations allowed China “to see more clearly the face of the Trump administration, one that is rude, unreasonable, selfish and headstrong”. China’s official Xinhua news agency added: “The wise man builds bridges, the fool builds walls. With economic globalisation there are no secluded and isolated islands.”
 

patd
6 years ago

from time:

“China knows that no matter how badly they behave the world will still want to do business with them, like Facebook,” he said. According to Oliver, Trump is leaving a leadership vacuum on the world stage when it comes to China, so Oliver is stepping into the spotlight with a little song to help remind the world what Xi is really about.

 

Chinese president Xi Jinping is amassing an alarming amount of political power. If only his propaganda videos made the idea of unrestricted authority seem as troubling as the concept of singing children.

Blue Bronc
6 years ago

Concentration Camps for Kids is not America and it is not normal.  The media (faux snooze is not reporting media) has to step up and fight the corporate restrictions and spread real news about what is happening.

Few reporters are doing the country tours needed to see what is happening to America.  Around the Newport News – Gloucester Point area are a lot of farmers, watermen, and military.  It also includes Williamsburg theme park, a tourist destination.  I have been there frequently since October 2011, which was the end of the Bush Depression/Recession.  I saw a lot of economic hard times and stores closed.  I also saw some new growth.

Over the weekend I was there, but looking at the area with a view of today’s economic level.  I saw several businesses which had survived the Bush Depression/Recession only to fail now.  Entire strip malls were reduced to one or two tenants instead of ten or more.  A couple of new strip malls had opened, which scavenged a few of the businesses, but not the majority.

It was driving around the back country agriculture region that something struck me even harder.  This is deep SFB country, surprisingly few SFB bumper stickers though.  Modern farmers practice crop rotation, where each season is a different crop with one in four or five the field is left fallow.  Earlier this year many farmers had the winter wheat fields and corn fields.  Often the farmer will harvest the wheat and plant a late season crop or let the field sit for the rest of the year and plant next year.  There are a lot of fields left unplanted.  The farmers have a lot of wheat going to market right now.  Many gambled on planting corn real early, they are going to have corn going to market early this year.  Others who planted corn are going to have a lot going to market a month later.  Few have planted soybeans.  SFB trade war is hitting the farm system already.  I saw a few fields which were planted but have not been cared for, the farmer taking the hit for seed and early fertilizer, and letting the crop on its own.  Maybe some can be harvested if the trade wars end, probably enough to pay for the seed but nothing else.

Dems need to be out talking to farmers.  I have had two people tell me how they supported SFB but cannot anymore.  Time to pick up voters – farmers used to be Democrats.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Laura Bush pens scathing column on child separation as part of immigration policy https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/laura-bush-oped-detention-separation/index.html

What Melania’s official tweeter should’ve tweeted…but didn’t, because it followed her husband’s line of kidnapping & traumatizing children as a negotiating tool.  Shame on all Trumps & all who support their Nazi agenda!

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Inside Border Protection’s processing detention center: Chain link fences and thermal blankets https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/immigration-mcallen-border-patrol-photos/index.html

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Very disturbing report above.  Government-controlled images.  Children moved elsewhere due to the requirement of advanced notice for a visit by outsiders.  (Outsiders being elected officials and the free press.)

ps – I hope that thing on BananaNazi’s head is malignant, because this has his stench all over it.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

A picture of terrified toddler, due to being separated from his mother, should be pissing off everyone, even the ~family values~ crowd at Faux & the Gooperz in Congress.  I guess the poor child wasn’t light enough for them.   Blondes have more fun…and get more sympathy, I guess.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Trumpsky is a fool if he thinks this atrocity will make folks forget about Russia.   Unlike the Twit, most folks can keep track of multiple stories…because they are the truth.  It’s much harder to keep track of lies.  Of course, Cheeto doesn’t care if it’s a lie, as long as it serves him in the moment.

Remove him from office…he is guilty of hate crimes, right? He is violating international law by rejecting asylum-seekers, right?

blueINdallas
6 years ago

There goes his peace prize.  If he ever had it, he just lost it at the border.

Jamie44
6 years ago

Happy Birthday Paul McCartney

Pogo
6 years ago

Well, the border issue certainly doesn’t seem to be winding down. Whaddabunchabullshit.  Laura Bush put it well.

In the six weeks between April 19 and May 31, the Department of Homeland Security has sent nearly 2,000 children to mass detention centers or foster care. More than 100 of these children are younger than 4 years old. The reason for these separations is a zero-tolerance policy for their parents, who are accused of illegally crossing our borders.
I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.
Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in the desert outside of El Paso. These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history.

Flatus
6 years ago

I wish Jon Meacham would start wearing his clerical collar on Morning Joe and visit the wrath of God upon Trump, et al.

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

I wish the stupid people who support the stupid president would understand what a big fat liar he is and what dupes they have been.

Hillary Clinton was right about them – although they are not in a basket they are in a dumpster

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable that is why the fake president lies

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

They say it’s not inaccurate and added that they may be cages but people are not being treated like animals.

 

really, what do you call the treatment of someone in a cage?

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

oh boy the comfort of a thermal blanket — like wrapping yourself in aluminum foil

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

Religion should be kept out.  This is a humanist, moral issue and has nothing to do with any kind of religious beliefs.  Separation of church and state should always be foremost

Pogo
6 years ago

Karen Tumulty has her finger on the issue in her piece at today’s WaPo:

In other words, Trump is literally holding children hostage to get his unpopular border wall. He may think of it as leverage, but the rest of us should recognize it for what it is. It is a tragedy, born of a lie. He may refuse to take responsibility for what he has done, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t see a lie for what it is, no matter how often he tells it.

 

A tragedy born of a lie – that is exactly what the no tolerance border policy and its reign of terror is.

Pogo
6 years ago

Poobah, I’m not certain whether Doocy or Kilmeade sets the standard for dumber than dirt.  The facility was a Walmart before it became a brown child warehouse with chain link fence cages.  There are a lot of shelf units – some reaching to the ceiling – in the inventory storage areas of Walmart, but (at least in our local store) there ain’t no chin link fences.  Hard to use forklifts through chain link fences.

Katherine Graham Cracker
6 years ago

People everywhere are evaluating the memorials, schools etc named after people who in hindsight shouldn’t be memorialized

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/17/palo-alto-eugenics-controversy-spurs-school-name-changes/

blueINdallas
6 years ago

These Republicans have criticized Trump’s ‘zero tolerance’ immigration policy https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/republican-party-family-separation/index.html

In other words, almost no Rebublicans will speak up for children if they aren’t white & don’t speak English…or are too young to speak at all!

If a child cries out of camera-range/public view, does he/she make a sound?

VOTE THE NAZIS OUT IN NOVEMBER!

ALL MEDIA SHOULD START AIRING PROGRAMS ABOUT HOW THE  NAZIS GOT THEIR START!

Then, air the actions (MIS-DEEDS & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & CRIMES AGAINST DEMOCRACY) carried out by TRUMP & his REGIME.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Hey, Trump!  NO NOBEL PEACE PRIZE FOR SOMEONE WHO KIDNAPS & TRAUMATIZES CHILDREN!

 

Toby was right.  Nothing good ever happens at a Wal-Mart.

Bink
6 years ago

Don’t forget that BlueInDallas intentionally made effort to undermine the Democratic candidate in 2016, spreading lies about that person on this forum to prevent them from being elected- he/she helped create this hell for immigrant children, although his/her rabidly-posted blather, here, belies that.  Know who to trust.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

‘We will not apologize’: Trump DHS chief defends immigration policy https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/kirstjen-nielsen-immigration-policy/index.html

Hey, Nazi-lady, the AMERICAN people do not “expect” the government to terrorize children!  (and I’m just as blonde/blue-eyed as you).

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Hitler never apologized, either.

If it walks like a Nazi & talks like a Nazi…it’s a Nazi.

Bink
6 years ago

That said, it’s entertaining watching his/her descent into madness.  Thanks, BiD!

(I’ll wait patiently for your apology.)

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Scaramucci says Trump should stop ‘atrocious’ family separations https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/anthony-scaramucci-family-separations-cnntv/index.html

Even The Mooch has a heart.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

I live in a red state.  As I was reminded here many times, my vote didn’t matter.

Children are being taken away from their parents.  I have a problem with that.  Everyone should have a problem with that.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

A sheriff’s deputy is accused of sexually abusing a 4-year-old, then threatening her mom with deportation https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/us/texas-deputy-child-sex-assault-charge-trnd/index.html

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas gets school named after him https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/us/jose-antonio-vargas-school/index.html

Pogo
6 years ago

There may be something to the notion that Faneuill  Hall should not be named for Mr. Faneuill, but he did pay for the building.  There is I think a limit to what should be torn down or renamed.  Statues are monuments to “great” people and the things they did in the past.  Faneuill Hall, not so much.  It is named for the donor, not erected as a tribute to him.  I think there is another building (or group of buildings) that this would eventually touch – Yale University comes to mind.  I support hauling down monuments to people who were traitors to the country who would have withdrawn from the country to perpetuate the institution of slavery, but if we were to set about removing the name of every building or institution named for someone who was involved in the slave trade, whether as an owner or a trader, we would have an almost never ending task.  And what of Washington?  He freed his slaves only upon his death – after owning slaves for 56 years.  What would we call our nation’s capitol?  Jefferson?  No, I guess that would not work, would it?

Pogo
6 years ago

Bink, BiD is a her.

dvitale300
6 years ago

Hey, the narcissist just released a proposal for a 6th and new branch of the military.  He said the new branch would be, now get this, “separate but equal” to the Air Force.

What the name of this new military branch:      “Space Force”

I kid you not ;o)

Pogo
6 years ago

Phil Rucker, et al. wrote the following at WaPo today:

“A Quinnipiac poll released Monday found that 27 percent of registered voters support and 66 percent oppose the Trump administration of immediately prosecuting parents who cross the border to seek asylum and separating them from their children. Despite the lopsided opposition overall, 55 percent of Republicans support the policy. Support drops to 24 percent among independents and 7 percent among Democrats.”Even SFB should be able to read those tea leaves. Of course I hope that the albatross hangs around his neck through at least the midterms even if he ends the policy (and fires Ernie).

Pogo
6 years ago

DV, he’s mused about that in the past but never quite proposed it – is this something new?

Pogo
6 years ago

dv – interesting – SFB must have watched Moonraker last March and thought it was a documentary.

patd
6 years ago

he wants more generals and tin soldiers in pretty uniforms to play with

patd
6 years ago

🙂

Sturgeone
6 years ago

That Fan guy bought the bldg.   Just like there is a trump tower.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

If they want a Robert E Lee statue all nice and probably legal all they gotta do is dress him up like a university president instead of as a losing general.

Bink
6 years ago

“As I was reminded here many times, my vote didn’t matter.” -BiD

Ok, fine, but whatever self-perceived influence you could muster you did, and despite your claimed meaninglessness of your own vote, you deliberately polluted the popular discourse in an effort to affect the outcome in electoral districts in which you didn’t reside, which is, quite frankly, morally worse than if you just stayed home and shut up.  Why should anyone trust anything you have to say, now, after demonstarting your judgment is horribly flawed?  “Horribly” in that the judgment you demonstrated is partly responsible for the “horrors” perpetrated by this administration and its enforcers.

Once again, you’ll use this forum to criticize everyone and everything without accepting a modicum of responsibility for the environment you and people like you helped create.  Everything isn’t your fault- your just our resident representative of the type of simplistic thinking that got this country into such dire straits- a very loud representative.  I’ll keep pointing it out, because as we’ve seen, when the stakes are highest, fake progressives like you betray the very causes they claim to espouse, begetting the opposite.  It’s literally ridiculous, hence the ridicule.

patd
6 years ago

this will be the way trump will be remembered

this photo becomes as iconic and speaks in the same way as the kent state photo, the napalmed girl, the strange fruit of the lynching tree.   forever burned into our psyche

RebelliousRenee
6 years ago

when the stakes are highest, fake progressives like you betray the very causes they claim to espouse, begetting the opposite.

Bink… amen… there was a lot of that going on during the last presidential election.

I tried to watch the hearing going on today…  I really did.  But listening to the slimy Republicans trying their damnedest to keep alive the horror of Hillary’s effing emails and to claim bias in the FBI Russian investigation made me throw up more than a little in my mouth.   

RebelliousRenee
6 years ago

patd… your 4:08….    nailed it!

Sturgeone
6 years ago

Nicole Wallace seems to be ridiculing the current administration a bit more than most of the other anti-trump republicans.

i like that.

That bunch are turning into libtards before our veryiest eyes.

That’s beautiful, and it serves them right.

Pogo
6 years ago

Sturg, Republican strategist Rick whateverthefuckhisnameis on MoJo this morning was doing a good job of that as well.  And I caught Steve Schmidt basically calling the SFB admin stupid and liars the other day.  Ain’t a lot of love going around in the repug political strategist circles these days – except for Sloppy Steve.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

So far the reaction I’ve seen to Laura Bush’s op-ed seems to be radio silence.

but I guess they’ll begin to attack her as soon as they figure out the angle…….

Sturgeone
6 years ago

I like Nicole because she has an hour long show…..it’s msnbc, but what the hell, an hour is an hour.  ( and…..haha……she’s a republican.)

That’s rich.

dvitale300
6 years ago

Something like 58% of rethugs support the separation and detentions.  I haven’t had a chance yet to see how Fox is spinning this.  New audio out with kids screaming and crying in one of these detention centers.  A guard is heard saying “we’ve got an orchestra here” while hearing the moaning and crying.

And – this is exactly what the rethugs want.  My parents would tell me that they need to take their “little brown a$$es” and kick them the hell out of our country.  Unapologetic bigotry – that’s what we’re witnessing.  Waiting for the republican “better angels” and “do the right and decent thing” is a waste of time.  We have to beat these people at the polls and throw them out of office.  Nothing less will suffice.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

Out of all these immigrants seeking asylum they’ve rounded up down there have they found any contraband or drugs?

Nice question someone at the White House briefing should ask the Secretary.

dvitale300
6 years ago

Homeland secretary Nielson – seems really smug.  I would hope she’s not to happy that she’s been chosen to fall on the sword for the narcissist.

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

The sound of children crying for their parents at the border https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/audio-children-crying-border-patrol/index.html

 

Heartbreaking.

Bink – Unfortunately, my health is so decrepit that I won’t be around for 2020.  I’m not deterred by your bullying, but I do find your obsession with me, specifically, really weird.

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

Mexico will pay for the border wall.   The malignant narcissist who lies all day long…not normal lies…but cruel and ruthless lies…pretends this is about a phony campaign promise to secure the border.    And his feckless supporters claim ‘he tells it like it is.’   They are correct in a perverted way…trump lies to tell it like he wants it to be.  All of this to keep Mr. Mueller and his investigation off-kilter and off-of-the news headlines.

Mr. Mueller is on swampy-ground right now and I hope he remains careful.

Patd…The Oliver spot on Xi?  Spot on.

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

Bid…are you voting for Beto over ted?  I suggest voting straight democratic during the mid-terms and that is how we get rid of the complicit and the deplorables of the gop.

Sturgeone
6 years ago

The Secretary of Homeland Security did not tell the truth about who created this problem

–meeker

How did a previously well respected national security expert find herself supervising a horrific network of internment camps on our border? For the same reason she lied to Congress about Trump’s s—hole comment. She sold her integrity to Donald Trump. 

—R Painter

Sturgeone
6 years ago

The lies get insane as Nielsen tries to spin this as Trump doing the same thing that Obama and Bush did. She also claimed that Congress can fix Trump’s implementation of the policy. (They can’t). 
—Sarah Reese Jones

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

KGC…Mr. C is quite the home builder.  What a beautiful, natural homestead!

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

During the 2016 debate, trump gave a meandering answer and started complaining about isis and cages.  And now he puts Hispanic children in cages here in the US of AA.

BTW?  He is answering a question about his lewd comments on the bus and deflects by talking about isis and cages, the border and minorities and bill clinton.

dvitale300
6 years ago

I think this is going to have to go way lower into the sewer until there’s a combined citizens solution.

 

patd
6 years ago

space cadets singing the anthem for twit’s new space force

patd
6 years ago

and their special salute

patd
6 years ago

they really really did exist, you know.  probably denied twit entry* and he vowed to start his own one day.

more than you want to know from wiki
The Junior Birdmen of America was a national organization for boys and girls interested in aviation and model plane building, founded (ca. 1934) and promoted by the Hearst newspaper chain, with the cooperation of the U.S. Bureau of Air Commerce.[1]
The Junior Birdmen of America (JBA) program was officially launched on April 15, 1934, with notices published in every William Randolph Hearst-owned newspaper in America.[2] There were 17 Hearst-owned newspapers involved initially as “Junior Birdmen Wing City Newspapers,”[3] including his flagship San Francisco Examiner, the Hearst New York American, the Hearst New York Evening Journal, the Hearst Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph, the Hearst Detroit Times and Detroit Sunday Times,[4] the Hearst San Antonio Light, the Hearst Chicago American, the Hearst Chicago Herald-Examiner, the NY Syracuse Journal[5] and Syracuse Sunday American, and Hearst’s Boston American (its Flight Squadron Plan application form and letter listed 22 Hearst newspapers). The cost to join and become a JBA member originally was one dime sent to your local Hearst newspaper.[5] Within a year, Hearst newspapers were reporting Junior Birdmen membership was over 151,000 by 1935. The Hearst Newspapers supported the program with daily and weekly articles, and with local and national events and competitions sponsored around the country. By 1937, there were over 578,000 members.
In August 1937, after four years of sponsorship, the Junior Birdmen of America program in its entirety passed from the Hearst News corporation to an independent organization in New York City,[2] as the Hearst Corporation, which was unable to service its existing debts, faced a court-mandated reorganization in 1937. Hearst newspapers also ceased publishing the official daily column of the JBA and the Sunday Birdmen Feature Page in August 1937. The new Junior Birdmen of America organization and United Air Lines sponsored a scholarship award program in 1937 for an 18-month course in airline operations at the Boeing School of Aeronautics in Oakland, Calif., which included free air transport to and from the school and living expenses while attending classes. It was noted that Junior Birdmen of America, Inc. was defunct by 1939.[2]
The organization’s motto was “Today Pilots of Models – Tomorrow Model Pilots,”[6] but it is now best remembered for the song “Up in the Air, Junior Birdmen”, which has been sung with a variety of lyrics to mock would-be or inexperienced aviators.[7][8][9][10] In a sequence in the hugely successful 1955 film, To Hell and Back, Audie Murphy’s infantry companions irritate a group of Army Air Corpsmen by singing a version of the song.[11]

 
* must have been his dad who was denied, made that vow for revenge and made his son fulfill that vow being as how the twit hadn’t been born yet

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

Patd…trump will want a full space parade in outer space highlighting the new, sixth military branch.

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

Qatar pushes back against Trump fundraiser’s hacking allegations https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/qatar-trump-broidy-email-lawsuit-pushback/index.html

Elliott Broidy

blueINdallas
6 years ago

I like Beto O’ Rourke; I hate Ted Cruz.

No contest.

blueINdallas
6 years ago

The polls had Tedious up by 9 last month.  Unfortunately, I think Jimmy Kimmel helped him with the charity basketball game & his numbers will be even higher this month.

Blonde Wino
6 years ago

Hamilton 68

From the site analysis —  In regards to domestic U.S. developments, chatter promoted various conspiracy theories, scandals, and controversies, many of which focused on disparaging the U.S. Department of Justice and Democratic Party.

For some reason, hannity’s site’s traffic was up 2300% in the last 48 hours.

 

blueINdallas
6 years ago

They are sending children to the other side of the country?   They aren’t just in separate facilities, they are in separate states? Not that it matters to the kids. Separation is separation. But why ship them everywhere?

Yep, the children have abandonment issues already.  They are angry and afraid.   You never really get over being taken away from your caretakers.  First, you blame them for letting you be taken.  Then, you get angry at those who took you away from them.  Finally, you recreate the abandonment scenario over and over in your life.  I feel so damned bad for these kids.

LadyeFaire
6 years ago

Preach it, Laura and Miss Rosalynn!!!

Another sign of abuse: “caregivers” are not allowed to comfort these crying, terrified children. No hugs, kisses, soothing words, cuddles. . .

I never believed in Drumpf’s “salvation” because James Dobson is no one whose word I would take for it. But I firmly believe that Drumpf has booked his ticket to the ninth circle of Dante’s hell, where Satan will spit him out.

Pogo
6 years ago

BB, saw you Father’s Day post yesterday. Got me to thinking. My paternal grandfather was an alcoholic but I didn’t know that until late in his life – after my grandmother had died. He was a sad drunk not a mean drunk. Unlike many spouses of alcoholics my grandmother was by no accounts abused by my grandad. My dad wasn’t much of a drinker- social only. We had a decent relationship as I grew toward adulthood but we were never emotionally close. Probably an emotional thing he never developed with my grandaddy. We weren’t actively antagonist towards each other, but we reached a level of coexistence until he left my mom after their marriage used the better years of mom’s life. She never forgave him or got over it. I eventually came to accept it and came to an uneasy truce with him and in the year following mom’s death from copd and ironically enough his massive stroke a couple months later we became almost close – at least closer than we’d been in a couple or three decades. Gotta say one of the prized photos I have is of me, dad and LP (my kid) at my neice’s wedding. I appreciated your Father’s Day comment but was traveling and couldn’t respond.

Pogo
6 years ago

Ladyfaire, salvation? Of drumpf?  Dobson is a ‘ho – not to be believed. Shit, SFB’s lost Franklin Graham fuhchrissake. They’ll be burning somewhere in Dante’s eighth circle if I’m right. And I hope they enjoy each other’s company.

xrepublican
6 years ago

Dante’s Inferno ? I think that’s where trump came from originally. I mean to say that he is, after all, an amalgamation of the Seven Deadlies. Anywhat, I don’t want to send him home to his comfy hot lava recliner & fiery golf links. Well, not too quickly.

Lock ’em all up, the dirty rats. In cages ! In the most tick and mosquito-infested part of Oaxaca, Mexico. Or, maybe in Gabon. Or, immerse them very slowly into a pool of piranha, bums and naughty bits first.

xrepublican
6 years ago

It ‘s about time they got around to reporting on this guy. Too bad they left out his bank in Cyprus that is soooo popular w/russian spies. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-commerce-secretary-held-russia-china-linked-assets-report/ar-AAyPrpS?ocid=spartanntp