We will always wonder and speculate about the nature of the union between these two historic figures, Bill and Hillary Clinton. Last night, just after she claimed her nomination victory, they had this moment …
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So 2 people who are driven professionals, who are intellectual compatibles and somehow have been able to let the good in what is between them keep them together rather than let their feet of clay push them apart surprises us? Together they have been a high powered lawyer, senator, secretary of state, governor, president and head of a huge foundation that funds good works on a global scale. Not bad. Or maybe they just have a deep affection for each other.
Love.
Nice capture of a moment towards which they worked for years. I’m guessing personally Bill will have lots of fun with this-Madame President, First Dude.. And warning to Trump- you don’t want to piss off Big Dawg anymore than you already have.
David Brinkley just commented on CNN that he hadn’t seen a lot of Bill- “She wasn’t riding on his coattails- she did this all by herself”
I am not in the least surprised. More than one man has had trouble keeping the zipper zipped. More than one woman has been disappointed by life and those activities. It doesn’t mean that they don’t love and respect the woman to whom they are married, just that they are weak and feel entitled in the face of temptation. At the worst point in their marriage they decided what they had that was good outweighed the mess he had made. They went from there and rebuilt after the damage. At this age, with their achievements that happen to now include a beautiful daughter and grandchild and now with this professional success, they are doing well. Neither is a perfect human being, but I’ve never met one of those in over 70 years of living, so let them have the joy of that commitment.
Some people just click.
The Bitterness of Sanders Campaign Last Days
well put jamie- btw, thought of you lots last night.
While California is not in yet, Hillary has won it by 420000 votes. She won New Jersey by 220000 votes. Bernie won North Dakota by 144 caucus votes. And that’s after she won Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands over the weekend., And she beat Nate Silver’s projections of 3 wins out of six rather than the 4 of 6 she won. Bernie’s last-gasp argument, momentum, was put to rest last night. He has no path forward and he has no argument that would convince any super delegates to switch. If he doesn’t come to the conclusion himself, President Obama needs to disabuse him of the notion that he has any positive potential effect going forward for the Democratic Party by continuing in the race or persisting to the convention and that he now needs to work to convince his supporters to keep drumpf out of Washington.
California declared for Clinton 56% to 43%
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0 Hillary Clinton Made History, but Bernie Sanders Stubbornly Ignored It.
Since Donald Trump has promised us a list of scandals from the copy of the Clinton Chronicles that has apparently been read to him, I have only one major request of Media: If you must echo the nonsense about the Clinton Foundation and tell us about every donation, please include info on its Charity Watch A rating and at least a cursory look at all the lives that have been changed for the better because of its very good works:
Creating Partnerships of Purpose
They’re intellectual equals who were smart enough to realize that 100% together is stronger than two existing at 50%. John & Abigail had it; Abraham & Mary, not so much.
OSH
Thank You. I stayed up until sure she had it and then hit the sack. Had a vaccine booster shot yesterday and it kicked sleepy baby to dreamland.
Craig- you were so right about that edit- even Hillary made the distinction of “major Party”- thought of you instantly! I still contend she needs you!
let’s hear it one more time for Abigail Adams: “If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies we are determined to foment a rebellion and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation.”
jace, tho’t of you and your attachment to Wyoming when I read this new Yorker article “Citizen Khan
Behind a Muslim community in northern Wyoming lies one enterprising man—and countless tamales”
I think you’ll enjoy reading it. also came across this timely snippet:
Perhaps because it so desperately needed people, Wyoming was, from the outset, unusually egalitarian. Beginning in 1869, women in the territory could vote, serve on juries, and, in some instances, enjoy a guarantee of equal pay for equal work—making it, Susan B. Anthony said, “the first place on God’s green earth which could consistently claim to be the land of the free.” Despite resistance from the U.S. Congress, Wyoming insisted on retaining those rights when petitioning for statehood; in 1890, when it became the forty-fourth state in the Union, it also became the first where women could vote. On the spot, it acquired its nickname: the Equality State.
raw story: Colbert: Clinton win like something seen in a ’sci-fi novel or any other country in the world’
Just one last EMAIL ?
Greg Sargent at Wapo.
Bernie is quickly becoming a man without a country – figuratively of course. He’s lost his only supporter in the Senate, who is one of the super delegates who bernie would have to flip, and he says it ain’t gonna happen. From this point on, regardless of anything that happened before, there is one thing bernie and trump have in common – their respective campaigns are all about them.
Bernie’s continuing presence does nothing to harm Hillary at this point. She’s the sane one; he’s the demented uncle.
From the “bitter” Politico column Jamie linked:
Merkley’s no longer on board with that. So that means he’s got 1 active member of the House and two former officials working on this. I’m badly paraphrasing Howard Dean, but he said it well – the honor is not in continuing to fight, the honor is in conceding and working to strengthen the party for the good of the country. Al Gore told Howard when Dean’s campaign was starting to fall apart that it was no longer about him but about the country. Al was right.
here’s the whole Colbert bit
I was wrong Hillary carried Sonoma County…wooohooo
Patd,
Thanks for the link. Fascinating read.
Regardless of politics most folks in WY take a certain pride in the Equality State moniker.
Always thought that in the pantheon of notable women, that the nations first elected female governor Nellie Tayloe Ross has been a bit overlooked. Went on to be Director of the US Mint for 5 terms under FDR and Truman. I think that she is qualified to have her picture on paper money, but I am a bit biased.
She did it in spite of him
He will be a constant problem
They are a partnership but she is the better partner and he is a jerk
If it were me I would have divorced him long ago I think she would still have made it
Flatus, I don’t disagree, but as a lifelong Dem I don’t think the party or Hillary needs the distraction of the crazy uncle. trump’s beginning to use teleprompters after all and sounds almost sane at times. it’s time to get serious about this shit.
Being someone who turns into a pumpkin every night around the same time as he California polls closed EST, I didn’t know the results of that state until this morning. Thank you California! Now on to the general election…where we can turn history into herstory!
another line I loved that Colbert did starts at 45 seconds in talking about historic time: “she’ll be the first nominee of her party and he’ll be his party’s last nominee”
Never really understood the idea of soulmates, but I’m pretty sure that Bill and Hillary fit the description.
Is it just me, or will history record the past week as the time Paul Ryan kissed his presidential ambitions goodby?
He’s got the stink of Trump all over him and no amount of tomato juice will wash it off.
BTW, if bernie wants super delegates to switch to him, he is asking them to overturn what is now the will of the people by a 3,682,743 vote margin – Hillary’s popular vote lead over Bernie. ~~Nothing undemocratic about that.~~
song of solomon 2:12 the flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land
pbs newshour last night:
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Well, what he said was — it was outrageous and inappropriate. And I couldn’t more strongly condemn that.
The implication here is that those who came to America legally over the years are somehow second-class citizens. My wife came here at age 8 not speaking a word of English and ended up in the president’s Cabinet.
We all got here from somewhere else going back in our lineage. And I think these gratuitous attacks on Americans who got here recently or whose parents got here recently need to stop.
JUDY WOODRUFF: At this point, Donald Trump is doubling down on that statement. He is not backing off of it. If he doesn’t back off, what are the implications?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Well, he needs to back off. This is a time he ought to be reaching out and talking about things that the American people are consumed with, like the slow growth in the country, the lack of opportunity for all of us, the fact that they’re falling behind.
There are plenty of things he ought to be talking about, rather than taking shots at Americans because of their ethnicity.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And, again, if he doesn’t back off of this and say that it was a mistake, what are the implications?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Well, he needs to — he needs to quit doing this.
This is not the way to bring America together. It’s not the way to unify the Republican Party, and it’s not the way to win the fall election.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And what if he doesn’t?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: It’s not the way to win the fall election by doing what he’s been doing. It needs to stop.
JUDY WOODRUFF: The Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson wrote today that you don’t believe Donald Trump is fit to be president. Do you believe he’s fit to be president?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: The American people are going to make that decision. And they’re in the process of determining who the next president is going to be.
And I think, you know, it’s been pretty clear that, in the right-of-center world, that is, the primaries and caucuses, conducted among Republicans, they wanted to do something different, and that’s our nominee, and in the fall, we will see what the American people decide.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Do you think he’s fit to be president?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: I think we need to respect the wishes of voters.
They have been busily at work making these decisions in primary after primary after primary. We will find out in the fall.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Do you believe, Senator, there’s any chance the Republicans could choose another nominee at the convention in Cleveland?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: I think the nomination fight is over, and our nominee ought to accept that graciously and begin to reach out to other members of our party who didn’t support him and pull them together and discontinue these attacks on citizens based on their ethnicity.
JUDY WOODRUFF: What has his nomination done to the Republican Party?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Well, right now, we’re in great shape. We have a record number of U.S. House members, 54 senators, 31 governors, more legislators and control of legislatures, too, that at any time since the ’20s.
So, we’d like the keep it that way. The way to finish changing America is to win the White House. And I hope we can do it this fall.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Senator, people are looking at the character of their two choices this fall, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. What do they see? What should they see?
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Well, we’re going the find out this fall. The American people have a big decision to make. We couldn’t have two more different candidates than these two.
Neither one of them are very popular, so it’s going to be for many Americans a difficult choice.
Jace, LOL. BTW, I was tied up yesterday and didn’t address the governor who ate New Jersey’s defense of trump’s indefensible comments about Judge Curiel. And he would be VP or AG? He should be disbarred instead.
Poor Mitch I guess it is not the year of the Turtle after all
mitch in the above said “The way to finish changing America is to win the White House.”
methinks he really meant “finish off America” based on all his past efforts…. or should that be non-efforts.
wonkette:
You’ll Need A Cigarette After Watching Elizabeth Warren’s Latest Donald Trump Nad-Stompin’
Newtie criticized Rump and got a nasty response now the lying slug in back on the bandwagon
Trump destroys those who support him…..teapot member goes down endorsed Rump
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/holding-defeats-ellmers-in-member-versus-member-primary-224032
Raw Sewage being dumped into St. Petersburg Clam Bayou
More environment damage courtesy of human beings.
more on give-em-hell lizzie
at boston globe:
“I’m a superdelegate and I don’t believe in superdelegates. I don’t think that superdelegates ought to sway the election,” Warren, who has not endorsed a candidate, told reporters in Massachusetts.
Warren’s comment about superdelegates notwithstanding, she is seen by other leaders of the party as uniquely credible and positioned to play one of the most influential roles in bridging the Clinton and Sanders divide.
A Warren adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly, said of the senator: “She takes the threat of Trump very seriously and she takes seriously her potential role in helping unify the party.”
and at mediaite:
Massachusetts Senator and liberal hero Elizabeth Warren has taken to chopping up Donald Trump like a Benihana chef on an espresso bender lately, and isn’t even taking weekends off. At the Massachusetts State Democratic Convention this weekend, Warren devoted a good portion of her speech to destroying Trump over his “University,” as well as a variety of other issues. Warren’s strategy, though, has less to do with substance and more to do with a rebranding effort centered around the constant theme of diminishing Trump that’s best exemplified by this portion:
While others have attacked Trump on a wide variety of fronts, Warren has consistently kept her message simple and laser-focused: Trump is a greedy child. Whether or not she’s chosen the softest spot to pound remains to be seen, but tactically, Warren is miles ahead of anyone else who has tried to damage Trump.
bravo! encore! encore!
Well Donald, it’s time to stop sniveling and put on your big boy pants because this is what accountability feels like!
nothing like growing up with brothers to toughen a gal up. she’s on a tear these days
dallas morning news:
Sen. Elizabeth Warren tore into Dallas Republican Rep. Jeb Hensarling’s proposal to dismantle the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law Tuesday, calling his plan a “wet kiss” to Wall Street.
[….]
“It’s clear Congressman Hensarling and fellow Republicans think the poor Wall Street banks have suffered too much under the new rules and it’s time for them to return to the good ol’ days before the 2008 crisis, when these banks ran wild,” Warren said during a Senate Banking Committee hearing.
speaking of special relationships when Ivanka and Melania stand behind Rump they look like hostages
sounds as St Pete has a problem with storm water intrusion into the sanitary sewage system. That intrusion causes an overcapacity situation resulting in a ‘venting’ situation.
First up, new ABC Electoral Map
Update on the DC Eagle Cam
Freedom has fledged and seen rarely on Camera B if he visits the nest tree so don’t worry if not seen. Liberty is still nest bound though she has branched in the nest tree so nest may look empty on Camera A
So when Rump sees the latest polls do you think his head will explode
as well as an affectionate, loving relationship theirs may be a solid friendship where laughter is as necessary as food and drink.
while looking for a suitable caption for the photo, I found these 2 notable quotes:
“If we couldn’t laugh we would all go insane.”
― Robert Frost
“If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”
― George Bernard Shaw
ames tribune: U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley will square off against former Iowa Lt. Gov. Patty Judge this fall as Judge secured the nomination of the Democratic Party Tuesday night in the primary election against three other liberal competitors.
[….]
“I got into this race after he refused to hold hearings and fill the vacancy on the Supreme Court, but he has a long record of not being an independent thinker and not doing the right thing for Iowa. Tonight, Iowa took its first step toward getting the Senate working again,” Judge said. “Iowans can count on me to fight for better jobs and rising incomes for working families, and stop fighting for the wealthy and big corporations who already have enough friends in Washington. I’m looking forward to the months ahead — I’m the Judge Chuck Grassley can’t ignore and I’m ready to make my case to Iowans.”
per wiki: Patty Jean Poole Judge is an American nurse and politician. She was the 46th Lieutenant Governor and previously, the Secretary of Agriculture for the U.S. State of Iowa….
now, maybe chuckie will rethink stonewalling garland
Levine at huffpo: Bernie Sanders Supporters Attack Reporters Online After Hillary Clinton Declared Nominee
Believe it or not…im very happy for Bill and Hillary…..they have been together thru thick and thin……by any measure they are successful…
Sea, and Renee…….great looking pics of you all on the last post………
The Lie That “China Wins” if the TPP Kangaroo Tribunals are Stopped
Posted on June 6, 2016 by William Black
Proponents of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) know that they have a major problem. Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump each oppose the deal. CEOs, however, have not given up on their dream of being able to rig the international system through the creation of kangaroo tribunals that can, effectively, destroy effective regulation and the enforcement of rules to protect the public. As I explained in my most recent column on this subject, “trade” is simply the pretext for this assault on the rule of law and national sovereignty. President Obama plans to try to get the TPP approved by the lame duck Senate after the November elections. Outgoing officials no longer must fear (or respect the will of) the voters and they are eager to cash in on the corporate largess that will reward politicians that vote for the international CEO impunity deals.
The “serious people” of the lame stream media are encouraging the lame ducks to vote for the CEOs’ dream deal. One of their principal claims is “If T.P.P. falls apart, China wins. It’s as simple as that.” TPP is deliberately opaque, complex, and crafted in secrecy by the CEOs’ lobbyists to be the opposite of “simple.” It has nothing to do with China winning or losing. TPP is all about Article 9 of the TPP, which allows CEOs to rig the system so that the CEOs win and the people and nations lose. If the TPP becomes law Chinese CEOs win because the kangaroo tribunals of Article 9 will intensify the global “race to the bottom” that is eviscerating what remains of the rule of law even in nations that are not parties to the TPP.
The ‘serious person’s” article never mentions Article 9, but it does include this carefully crafted attempt to mislead his readers: “[TPP] binds Vietnam to countries where the rule of law is arbiter rather than authoritarian diktat.” As Americans are now all too aware, the American “rule of law” is a threadbare pretense when it comes to powerful financial CEOs. Article 9 is the “rule of law” only in the sense that it specifies that the “rule of law” does not apply to the kangaroo tribunals that can impose billions of dollars in penalties on a nation for the high crime of trying to discourage smoking. Article 9 is designed to bypass one of the most important requisites of national sovereignty – a nation’s laws and judicial system.
Oh, and a very huge congratulations to Hillary…..hoping that she picks E. Warren as VP….thinking that she would be a shoe in after Hillary leaves the White House…….would be sorta a sacrifice as in Chess……but keeping a queen as potus……I would a very enthusiastic voter/supporter if this would happen…….later
realclearpolitics:
Rachel Maddow reads from a Politico article that reports on the last days of the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign using quotes from anonymous sources. Some of the more interesting details include Sanders prominent role in decision making, his idea to attack DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and his insistence that Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown not be selected as Hillary Clinton’s Vice President.
Some of the saucier details:
SJ…..Dustin Hoffman as Hillary was just a bad joke…..sorry……how about ….Emma Thompson…..in short hair, she even looks like her a little…….very easy on the eyes…..and knows how to dance….thats the ticket no?
from bbc:
Two Democratic women candidates, both from ethnic minorities, will compete in a run-off for California’s open seat in the US Senate, officials say.
The face-off between Kamala Harris and Loretta Sanchez marks the first time in the state’s history that Republicans will be absent from the Senate race.
The two women came first and second among 34 candidates for the seat that will be vacated by Sen Barbara Boxer.
Only the two top candidates advance to a run-off, California’s rules state.
Ms Harris, 51, California’s attorney general, is polling about 40% of the vote in Tuesday’s election, according to partial results.
Congresswoman Sanchez, who is 56, is trailing far behind with about 17%.
If elected in November’s run-off, Ms Harris – the daughter of immigrants from India and Jamaica – would become the first woman of Indian heritage to hold a Senate seat and the second black woman in the chamber.
Meanwhile, Ms Sanchez – whose parents are immigrants from Mexico – could become one of the first Latinos in the Senate.
The Trans-Pacific Shell Game
By Jomo Kwame Sundaram, Project Syndicate, June 1, 2016
Even if the TPP is found to conflict with the national or public interest, participating countries are obliged to follow its provisions. Powerful lobbies, mainly from the US, made sure of that. And, unfortunately, that is not all they did.
Despite being portrayed as a trade deal, the TPP is not even really about trade. Many TPP countries are already among the world’s most open economies, with most merchandise trade among them having already been liberalized by earlier agreements and unilateral initiatives. The main remaining trade constraints involve non-tariff barriers, such as US agricultural subsidies, which the TPP does not address.
Instead, the TPP’s most important provisions strengthen, broaden, and extend intellectual property rights. That will give pharmaceutical companies much longer monopolies on patented medicines and keep cheaper options – both generics and alternatives that are deemed too similar – off the market, hurting both consumers and governments that provide subsidies.
Moreover, the TPP weakens national regulation, such as over financial services, and strengthens the rights of foreign investors, at the expense of local businesses and the public interest. Investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) provisions allow foreign investors to pursue binding private arbitration against governments if new regulations reduce their expected future profits.
Governments that lose those lawsuits will be obliged to compensate foreign investors; but even those that win will incur high legal costs. In fact, potential ISDS compensation payments or settlements alone could far outweigh the TPP’s limited economic benefits. Fear of incurring such high costs are likely to weaken governments’ incentives to implement regulations that hurt foreign corporate interests, even if they serve the public good.
Either Senator Sherrod Brown or Senator Amy Klobuchar would be great Vice President picks!!!
I would much rather Sen. Warren remain senator for awhile…….Maybe Howard Dean?
who know, dey won’t be axin’ me….
americans elected W twice……I don’t think there is anything to be gained by relying on the innate wisdom of the American people.
i don’t know why bill and hill are together……I figure its their business. But probably just too much personal histories together to be able to walk away from it. Start-to-finish stand-up guys they seem to be.
Yeah W actually lost the first one……but the people didn’t erupt in righteous indignation…….they shrugged their soldiers and with raised eyebrows gently acquiesced.
San Francisco is my favorite city. I am pleased that Hillary won The City by double digits. I guess it wasn’t the Bernie stronghold as described by the cable networks last night.
“San Francisco is my favorite city…The City by double digits…”
Formerly known as the city by the sea 🙂
(I like it, too!)
PiT, LP tells me the weather was pretty crappy there until today but that now it’s hot and beachy. He also tells me that during the stormy part of yesterday he and his bud went to an outlet center and didn’t buy anything. Not sure I can trust anything he says now.
I have to admit that I don’t have any real knowledge about TPP, but when an article refers to kangaroo tribunals in its title, I become pretty skeptical immediately. But then i realized it’s a blog post, so it’s one of those opinion/asshole things.
“But then i realized it’s a blog post, so it’s one of those opinion/asshole things.”
pogo, unlike anything we post here on the trail blog, of course.
🙂
PiT, here are a couple of links to WaPo editorials about the TPP that differ from the opinions you posted.
April 24 – A Healthy Agreement.
May 22 – A Net Plus for America.
Not arguing the merits, just posting a different viewpoint.
patd, that’s what blog posting is all about. 🙂
Anybody for a trial balloon?
Elizabeth Warren to endorse Clinton, won’t turn down VP slot if offered “Sources Say”
Elizabeth Warren To Endorse Hillary Clinton: Report
Surprise!
Reuters
Speaking of that movie casting: Meryl Streep being Donald Trump opposite Christine Baranski
Clinton handily beat the betting line in SD and CA. She won 4 of 6, beating that line by a whopping 33%. I’m impressed.
Meanwhile, it’s confession time. I originally thought that the best republican candidate for the Dems would be rich ‘Tex’ perry, ‘cuz I was sure that he’d be indicted before the ripper convention. Following Tex’s sudden flight to avoid looking like the idiot he is, my favorites became rafaelo ‘Canada’ cruz, runt ‘Stoner’ pol, and the huckster. I am happy to say that deadbeat don has so far exceeded my estimate of how repellent and undignified any of those lesser four would be.
How could I have been so blind ???
Solar,
All of your choices are interesting. Very interesting 😉
Solar
Nice comment and of course your happy for them.. Great to just wish people well..
SJ,
U trying to analyze me?….u gonna go nutty with me…..
How about an actor that would be perfect to do Bill C……one that has already been potus……..Harrison Ford
Or……let our Friend Tony the Baloney do it……he has them both down cold…haahahaaaaaaaaa……i hate it when i laugh at my own jokes….oh well…..
Pat,
Sorry, thanks for the last links that you provided for me….liked them a lot…..and I do like playing at/with life….having an “unquenchable curiosity” is the only way that makes life interesting )not boring) for me……thats one of the reasons that i like the trail so much….hardly ever boring…..
Whoa. Where has THIS Cavs team been? 33-17 after 1.
Btw, Solar, even if SJ’s not trying to analyze you, I will,. You be nutz … in the best of ways of course. 😉
Well, looks like the Cavs from games 1 & 2 are back
Dammit
Solar
You funny!?
Pogo, Ouch, tis ok…..coming from almost anyone here its ok…..but not from that guy from Minn…..if he had said the same thing…we would have us one of those keshuffles, or kerfluffles going on here….later going biking, climbing, and some other things that i might not make it back from….if im not around in a cpl of days…..call nueve, uno, uno…….rapido! …..later going to bed early……
Clinton deserves credit for making history: Jill Lawrence
Solar
How’s the motorhome? Any travels? Gas is cheap..
Sea Hag and Renee – and Rick – enjoyed seeing your celebration. Congrats! Hillary’s mother gave her good advice about standing up to bullies…amazing that she was born as 19th Amendment was being passed.
Solar, ‘-). Luv ya man. Sleep like a baby.
Tony, will get back to you on that………Night XR…….
” unquenchable curiosity” that would be what you said…quoted you wrong above….
G’night, Solar. Sleep easy, cuz I have no intention of analyzing you. Even if I did, you could sleep easy.
Well, Cavs bounce back. Win by 30 at the Q. Well, beddy bye time for me. G’nite all.
McCain was rushed and didn’t even want to vet Palin, he just went ahead and OK’d it. This time, a woman is running for top office and the whole world has vetted her since she tried to reform US health care early-on when she became First Lady. Time , and she was running for President and I voted for her in the 2008 Ohio Primary election. Later, President Obama appointed her to his Cabinet, of course, after she had secured a New York US Senator’s position. I have no quarrels with her job as Secretary, but when she was US Senator, she supported George Bush 100% in every single aspect in going into Iraq. She later never wavered, continually cheer-leading for more and more funding for that war, going to the Baghdad Green Zone and saying how she marveled at the wonderful job the military was doing there, how noble this war was, on and on for years and years she supported it. When the US population turned out in droves to demonstrate against the war, when Bush had bankrupted the treasury and made the USA a hated nation, when American tourists in Europe reported the hate towards them because of Bush’s war…Hillary Rodham Clinton called for continued funding of the war. Now nearly all the rest of the Senators did too, but this one is running for President. This is how she feels about foreign invasions into poorly-thought-out wars. Personally, of course I would never vote for Trump or Gary Johnson, but how can anyone who reviews Clinton’s revolting speeches in Congress praising the Iraq invasion over and over seriously want a war monger like that in The White House? I campaigned for Bill Clinton twice and then he came up with NAFTA, which devastated American labor for years, clearing the way for more and more jobs to slip into Mexico. Hillary? Well, she was all for that as well. Lately she has been allowed into union Detroit factories to give speeches at rallies. I don’t get it, and when she says she is for the same things Bernie is, just with different approaches, I say so much hot air. She is concerned with her 1% friends, first and foremost. So go and vote for her if that’s what you think is right for the country.
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