getting the whole picture as reported by CNN via MSN:
A civilian defense attorney aboard the military-chartered Boeing 737 that skidded into a Florida river said the landing “didn’t feel right.”
Cheryl Bormann spoke to CNN’s Don Lemon as she waited with the rest of the passengers rescued following the incident.
Seven crew members and 136 passengers were on the plane flying from Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, into Naval Air Station Jacksonville. There were no fatalities, but the Jacksonville Fire Rescue said 21 people were taken to local hospitals.
Bormann described a scene of fear, confusion and people coming together to help one another.
The plane arrived four hours late in Guantanamo Bay, and those getting off warned them that the air-conditioning was broken, she said.
“They were pretty universally miserable, so none of us were looking forward to getting onto the plane,” Bormann said. “We got on anyway.”
They flew through a storm of thunder and lightning, but the frightening part came when the plane came in for a landing.
“The plane … literally hit the ground and then it bounced. It was clear that the pilot did not have complete control of the plane because it bounced some more, it swerved and tilted left and right,” she said. “The pilot was trying to control it but couldn’t, and then all of a sudden it smashed into something.”
The plane skidded from the runway into the St. Johns River at 9:40 p.m. ET, but did not submerge.
Some oxygen masks deployed, and overhead bins opened up and sent belongings spilling out. Bormann said her identification, cash, credit cards, computers, phone and passport were sent flying to the seats behind her so she could not retrieve them.
The passengers onboard didn’t know what happened, she said. And they didn’t know where they were. For all they knew, Bormann said, they could have been in a river or they could have been in an ocean.
People weren’t screaming, Bormann said, because the flight staff worked quickly to give direction. Everyone on the aircraft helped one another to put on their life vests and then climb out onto the wing, into the water, onto the raft and over to the safety of land.
The plane was carrying military personnel headed home, on vacation, or to get medical care. It included families, civilians, grandparents and children — all connected to the military.
There were also pets checked in the luggage compartment below. Bormann said they have not been rescued, and they likely didn’t make it. Fire rescue officials used a cable to pull an inflated raft with people to a nearby pier.
Naval Air Station Jacksonville said pets have not been rescued due to safety reasons. “Our hearts and prayers go out to those pet owners during this terrible incident,” it said in a Facebook post.
After the rescue, Bormann said, border control was processing the travelers. But most passengers don’t have the identification that authorities are asking for — those are back on the plane.
“Everyone is sort of milling around because no one knows quite what to do. They won’t let us leave,” Bormann said. “Everybody is curious about their belongings and want to know what will happen next.”
Bill recaps the top stories of the week in his Real Time monologue, including the constitutional crisis sparked by the White House’s refusal to cooperate with Congress.
WKYT:Looking for a Derby souvenir? Here’s one straight from Silver Charm
Coleman Larkin made mason jars filled with horse poop. Kentucky for Kentucky is selling them for $200.
“To me, it’s a product for champions,” Larkin said.
The droppings are not from just any horse, they come straight from 1997 Derby winner Silver Charm himself. The 25-year-old Thoroughbred is living on Old Friends Farm in Georgetown.
“I’m not one to reject ideas, especially if someone is very enthusiastic about it. I know the feeling. That’s how we got this place started,” said Old Friends Thoroughbred Retirement President and Founder Michael Blowen.
Larkin actually went to the farm to handpick the poop from the champion racehorse.
“Silver Charm is a champion, I’m a champion, Kentucky for Kentucky are champions. I think whoever buys this has to be a champion,” Larkin said.
Larkin said his creation takes time to make.
“They have to be plucked at a certain time. I have to harvest them at a certain time. They have to be nice and fresh – that’s important so they keep their shape. They have to be dried – that’s very important. They have to be sealed,” he said.
If you’re wondering where to put something like this, Larkin has a few ideas.
“This would look excellent on your mantel. I think this would look excellent in your office. I think this would be a great Mother’s Day gift, Father’s Day gift for people you love or hate,” he said.
There is a sweet sentiment behind the soil. When you buy one of these, some of your money goes to Old Friends to help care for horses like Silver Charm.
Joe Biden holds a 30-point lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Democratic presidential field, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill, further signaling that the former vice president is cementing his place as the primary contest’s front-runner.
Forty-four percent of Democratic voters surveyed said they are most likely to vote for Biden in the 2020 Democratic primaries. Sanders comes in second place at 14 percent, while Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) places third with just 9 percent, the poll found.
The survey results show a surge for Biden since he launched his presidential campaign last week. A Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey from March pegged his support in the primary field at 35 percent, though at the time he hadn’t yet entered the race.
The poll results are largely in line with other surveys conducted in recent days that show Biden widening his lead in the sprawling Democratic primary field.
“The Biden surge is significant and greater than expected,” Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, said. “His launch was super successful and he has opened up a significant lead.”
Among respondents, 5 percent said they would most likely vote for Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), while South Bend, Ind., Mayor
When it comes to who voters think has the best chance of beating President Trump in the 2020 general election, Biden still has a significant lead, with 40 percent of respondents saying as such. Sanders comes in after the former vice president at 13 percent.
But according to the poll, voters are looking for more than just someone who can defeat Trump. Thirty percent said it was more important to nominate a candidate who shares their positions on the issues, while 26 percent said that the ability to beat Trump was a more important quality in the eventual Democratic nominee.
The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll online survey of 1,536 registered voters was conducted from April 30-May 1. Of that, 259 self-identified Democratic voters were asked about their candidate preference in the party’s primary field.
The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and The Harris Poll. The Hill will work with Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll throughout 2019.
Full poll results will be posted online later this week. The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.
Thousands of people have marched in Glasgow in the largest show of support for Scottish independence since Nicola Sturgeon said she would introduce legislation to hold a second referendum on the issue.
The All Under One Banner event, led by a single flag-bearer and a pipe band, left Kelvingrove Park at 1.30pm and was following a route west to east through the city centre to a rally at Glasgow Green.
Marchers were still streaming out of the park at 2pm, many carrying Scottish and EU flags. There was a carnival atmosphere as families and dog-walkers joined drummers and bagpipers, and there were chants of “independence now”.
Police Scotland said it was difficult to estimate numbers accurately because people had joined the march at different points along the route, but by 5pm they believed there were between 30,000 and 35,000 people gathered at the rally on Glasgow Green.
Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, said at the end of April that a second independence referendum should be held by May 2021 if Brexit went ahead, but stopped short of repeating previous calls for the UK government to give her the power to call one.
All Under One Banner, which describes itself as “open to everyone who desires an independent Scotland”, has marches planned across Scotland throughout the summer, culminating in an event in Edinburgh on 5 October.
[…]
Meanwhile, SNP activists were distributing half a million “Stop Brexit” flyers across the country on the first of three campaign Saturdays in the run-up to the European elections.
The party’s spring conference, held in Edinburgh last weekend, called on voters to use the EU elections as an opportunity to reinforce Scotland’s support for remaining in the EU.
Two polls, by YouGov and Panelbase, have suggested the SNP will win three or four of Scotland’s six European seats, reducing Labour and the Tories to one each. YouGov showed the SNP on course for 40% of the vote.
Sturgeon told the conference: “As voters go to the polls for the European elections on May 23, our message will be clear and direct. And unlike Labour’s, it will be unambiguous. Scotland’s not for Brexit, Scotland’s for Europe.”
Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., on Friday sent a letter to the Department of Justice’s inspector general demanding he investigates whether the White House had urged Attorney General William Barr to investigate President Trump’s political opponents.
“In response to my questions during the [Senate Judiciary] hearing, Attorney General Barr proved unable or unwilling to state whether he had been directed to open investigations at the request or suggestion of the President or other White House officials — an alarming response that strikes at the very heart of the rule of law and threatens to undermine the longstanding independence of the Justice Department,” she said in a letter to Inspector General Michael Horowitz.
“I request that the Office of the Inspector General investigate whether the Attorney General has received or acted upon such improper requests,” she said.
The letter comes days after Harris questioned Barr Tuesday at the Senate hearing over details in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia report that noted instances where Trump had either suggested or called for the Department of Justice to investigate Hillary Clinton.
Harris quizzed Barr whether Trump or anyone at the White House had asked him to investigate anyone — an exchange it detailed in its letter to Horowitz.
In that exchange, Harris asked: “Has the President or anyone at the White House ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone?”
“I’m trying to grapple with the word ‘suggest.’ I mean, there have been discussions of, of matters out there that, uh — they have not asked me to open an investigation,” Barr said.
When Harris asked if anyone had hinted, suggested or inferred, Barr said he didn’t know. Harris’ letter describes Barr as “unable or unwilling to answer the question.”
“There must be no doubt that the Department of Justice and its leadership stand apart from partisan politics, and resist improper attempts to use the power of federal law enforcement to settle personal scores,” she wrote.
newsweek:Russians ‘Caught On’ to Trump’s ‘Imbecility,’ George Conway Suggests After Donald’s Call With Putin
[…]
On Friday night after the call, George Conway quote tweeted a MSNBC producer’s post on a Russian News Agency TASS report that Trump and Putin spoke for about an hour-and-a-half—longer than the hour that had been previously reported.
“Not only does TASS report that Trump initiated the phone call with Putin, but TASS claims that Trump and Putin spoke ‘for almost 1.5 hours,’” MSNBC producer Kyle Griffin tweeted. “If true, Trump had nearly 90 minutes to bring up Russian interference in future elections and he didn’t.”
George Conway, a lawyer, commented: “The only way a conversation like this could possibly work to our nation’s advantage would if the Russians were completely confused by Trump’s brainless incoherence, or they simply couldn’t believe his idiocy and imbecility. But unfortunately they’ve probably caught on.”
Kellyanne Conway’s husband also tweeted that “for Trump to be talking to any foreign leader with or without supervision for any length of time is terrifying.”
[…]
George Conway has been criticizing Trump on an almost daily basis, despite the fact that his wife is one of the longest-serving and highest-profile officials in the administration. On Friday, he hashtagged many of his tweets with #DerangedDonald, a nickname he circulated for the president last week.
Trump has clearly been bothered by George Conway’s constant Twitter attacks and lashed out at him in March.
Saw that a contractor plane went for a swim. Used to be a military hop on a real Air Force plane guaranteed you would not need to go swimming to reach the run way. The last bonafide contractor plane I flew on was very busy during the Vietnam War.
Did i miss the derby? If there had been a resplendently-sparkling rainbow-maned stallion in the race, i would have bet on that horse. Did that one win?
If a winning horse is given the dq after the race, can we disqualify SFB and have Hillary take over?
bbronc, my tho’ts exactly. the best horse in the race clearly running ahead of the pack denied the prize due to arcane ruling and an unruly noisy mob on the sidelines
Craig… the track conditions were much worst last year when you picked the winner Justify. Last year it was raining heavily the entire day. Yesterday it was mostly drizzling until 20 minutes before the race. They race in the rain on every track everywhere no matter what. To me the shame was that the declared winner really wasn’t affected.
getting the whole picture as reported by CNN via MSN:
A civilian defense attorney aboard the military-chartered Boeing 737 that skidded into a Florida river said the landing “didn’t feel right.”
Cheryl Bormann spoke to CNN’s Don Lemon as she waited with the rest of the passengers rescued following the incident.
Seven crew members and 136 passengers were on the plane flying from Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, into Naval Air Station Jacksonville. There were no fatalities, but the Jacksonville Fire Rescue said 21 people were taken to local hospitals.
Bormann described a scene of fear, confusion and people coming together to help one another.
The plane arrived four hours late in Guantanamo Bay, and those getting off warned them that the air-conditioning was broken, she said.
“They were pretty universally miserable, so none of us were looking forward to getting onto the plane,” Bormann said. “We got on anyway.”
They flew through a storm of thunder and lightning, but the frightening part came when the plane came in for a landing.
“The plane … literally hit the ground and then it bounced. It was clear that the pilot did not have complete control of the plane because it bounced some more, it swerved and tilted left and right,” she said. “The pilot was trying to control it but couldn’t, and then all of a sudden it smashed into something.”
The plane skidded from the runway into the St. Johns River at 9:40 p.m. ET, but did not submerge.
Some oxygen masks deployed, and overhead bins opened up and sent belongings spilling out. Bormann said her identification, cash, credit cards, computers, phone and passport were sent flying to the seats behind her so she could not retrieve them.
The passengers onboard didn’t know what happened, she said. And they didn’t know where they were. For all they knew, Bormann said, they could have been in a river or they could have been in an ocean.
People weren’t screaming, Bormann said, because the flight staff worked quickly to give direction. Everyone on the aircraft helped one another to put on their life vests and then climb out onto the wing, into the water, onto the raft and over to the safety of land.
The plane was carrying military personnel headed home, on vacation, or to get medical care. It included families, civilians, grandparents and children — all connected to the military.
There were also pets checked in the luggage compartment below. Bormann said they have not been rescued, and they likely didn’t make it. Fire rescue officials used a cable to pull an inflated raft with people to a nearby pier.
Naval Air Station Jacksonville said pets have not been rescued due to safety reasons. “Our hearts and prayers go out to those pet owners during this terrible incident,” it said in a Facebook post.
After the rescue, Bormann said, border control was processing the travelers. But most passengers don’t have the identification that authorities are asking for — those are back on the plane.
“Everyone is sort of milling around because no one knows quite what to do. They won’t let us leave,” Bormann said. “Everybody is curious about their belongings and want to know what will happen next.”
Bill recaps the top stories of the week in his Real Time monologue, including the constitutional crisis sparked by the White House’s refusal to cooperate with Congress.
funnin’ the city slickers at derby time
WKYT: Looking for a Derby souvenir? Here’s one straight from Silver Charm
Coleman Larkin made mason jars filled with horse poop. Kentucky for Kentucky is selling them for $200.
“To me, it’s a product for champions,” Larkin said.
The droppings are not from just any horse, they come straight from 1997 Derby winner Silver Charm himself. The 25-year-old Thoroughbred is living on Old Friends Farm in Georgetown.
“I’m not one to reject ideas, especially if someone is very enthusiastic about it. I know the feeling. That’s how we got this place started,” said Old Friends Thoroughbred Retirement President and Founder Michael Blowen.
Larkin actually went to the farm to handpick the poop from the champion racehorse.
“Silver Charm is a champion, I’m a champion, Kentucky for Kentucky are champions. I think whoever buys this has to be a champion,” Larkin said.
Larkin said his creation takes time to make.
“They have to be plucked at a certain time. I have to harvest them at a certain time. They have to be nice and fresh – that’s important so they keep their shape. They have to be dried – that’s very important. They have to be sealed,” he said.
If you’re wondering where to put something like this, Larkin has a few ideas.
“This would look excellent on your mantel. I think this would look excellent in your office. I think this would be a great Mother’s Day gift, Father’s Day gift for people you love or hate,” he said.
There is a sweet sentiment behind the soil. When you buy one of these, some of your money goes to Old Friends to help care for horses like Silver Charm.
If you want to buy one, CLICK HERE.
more horse hockey, bullsh*t or the real political poop?
the hill:
Joe Biden holds a 30-point lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Democratic presidential field, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill, further signaling that the former vice president is cementing his place as the primary contest’s front-runner.
Forty-four percent of Democratic voters surveyed said they are most likely to vote for Biden in the 2020 Democratic primaries. Sanders comes in second place at 14 percent, while Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) places third with just 9 percent, the poll found.
The survey results show a surge for Biden since he launched his presidential campaign last week. A Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey from March pegged his support in the primary field at 35 percent, though at the time he hadn’t yet entered the race.
The poll results are largely in line with other surveys conducted in recent days that show Biden widening his lead in the sprawling Democratic primary field.
“The Biden surge is significant and greater than expected,” Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, said. “His launch was super successful and he has opened up a significant lead.”
Among respondents, 5 percent said they would most likely vote for Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), while South Bend, Ind., Mayor
Pete Buttigieg, was picked by 4 percent. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas) tied for sixth place at 3 percent.
When it comes to who voters think has the best chance of beating President Trump in the 2020 general election, Biden still has a significant lead, with 40 percent of respondents saying as such. Sanders comes in after the former vice president at 13 percent.
But according to the poll, voters are looking for more than just someone who can defeat Trump. Thirty percent said it was more important to nominate a candidate who shares their positions on the issues, while 26 percent said that the ability to beat Trump was a more important quality in the eventual Democratic nominee.
The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll online survey of 1,536 registered voters was conducted from April 30-May 1. Of that, 259 self-identified Democratic voters were asked about their candidate preference in the party’s primary field.
The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and The Harris Poll. The Hill will work with Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll throughout 2019.
Full poll results will be posted online later this week. The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.
Jack, terrific selections on the last thread. Thanks. Musicwise you’d be right at home hanging with me.
As to the thread topic, as if Guantánamo isnt a big enough fuckup as it is…
If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog (or maybe a turtle)
A look at the potential presidential pooches (or reptile)
Jamie, along with RR and Whsky I gotta go with War of Will — sums up my last 3 months
Craig… welcome aboard!
Hooray hooray huzzah hosannas
new phone signs into site, long personal nightmare is over. Someone should name a horse Nightmare.
More unscratchable itch than nightmare but still……
Speaking of Nightmares
the guardian:
Thousands of people have marched in Glasgow in the largest show of support for Scottish independence since Nicola Sturgeon said she would introduce legislation to hold a second referendum on the issue.
The All Under One Banner event, led by a single flag-bearer and a pipe band, left Kelvingrove Park at 1.30pm and was following a route west to east through the city centre to a rally at Glasgow Green.
Marchers were still streaming out of the park at 2pm, many carrying Scottish and EU flags. There was a carnival atmosphere as families and dog-walkers joined drummers and bagpipers, and there were chants of “independence now”.
Police Scotland said it was difficult to estimate numbers accurately because people had joined the march at different points along the route, but by 5pm they believed there were between 30,000 and 35,000 people gathered at the rally on Glasgow Green.
Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, said at the end of April that a second independence referendum should be held by May 2021 if Brexit went ahead, but stopped short of repeating previous calls for the UK government to give her the power to call one.
All Under One Banner, which describes itself as “open to everyone who desires an independent Scotland”, has marches planned across Scotland throughout the summer, culminating in an event in Edinburgh on 5 October.
[…]
Meanwhile, SNP activists were distributing half a million “Stop Brexit” flyers across the country on the first of three campaign Saturdays in the run-up to the European elections.
The party’s spring conference, held in Edinburgh last weekend, called on voters to use the EU elections as an opportunity to reinforce Scotland’s support for remaining in the EU.
Two polls, by YouGov and Panelbase, have suggested the SNP will win three or four of Scotland’s six European seats, reducing Labour and the Tories to one each. YouGov showed the SNP on course for 40% of the vote.
Sturgeon told the conference: “As voters go to the polls for the European elections on May 23, our message will be clear and direct. And unlike Labour’s, it will be unambiguous. Scotland’s not for Brexit, Scotland’s for Europe.”
Sturg, welcome back from exile. Your banishment is lifted.
fox news via msn:
Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., on Friday sent a letter to the Department of Justice’s inspector general demanding he investigates whether the White House had urged Attorney General William Barr to investigate President Trump’s political opponents.
“In response to my questions during the [Senate Judiciary] hearing, Attorney General Barr proved unable or unwilling to state whether he had been directed to open investigations at the request or suggestion of the President or other White House officials — an alarming response that strikes at the very heart of the rule of law and threatens to undermine the longstanding independence of the Justice Department,” she said in a letter to Inspector General Michael Horowitz.
“I request that the Office of the Inspector General investigate whether the Attorney General has received or acted upon such improper requests,” she said.
The letter comes days after Harris questioned Barr Tuesday at the Senate hearing over details in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia report that noted instances where Trump had either suggested or called for the Department of Justice to investigate Hillary Clinton.
Harris quizzed Barr whether Trump or anyone at the White House had asked him to investigate anyone — an exchange it detailed in its letter to Horowitz.
In that exchange, Harris asked: “Has the President or anyone at the White House ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone?”
“I’m trying to grapple with the word ‘suggest.’ I mean, there have been discussions of, of matters out there that, uh — they have not asked me to open an investigation,” Barr said.
When Harris asked if anyone had hinted, suggested or inferred, Barr said he didn’t know. Harris’ letter describes Barr as “unable or unwilling to answer the question.”
“There must be no doubt that the Department of Justice and its leadership stand apart from partisan politics, and resist improper attempts to use the power of federal law enforcement to settle personal scores,” she wrote.
[continues]
newsweek: Russians ‘Caught On’ to Trump’s ‘Imbecility,’ George Conway Suggests After Donald’s Call With Putin
[…]
On Friday night after the call, George Conway quote tweeted a MSNBC producer’s post on a Russian News Agency TASS report that Trump and Putin spoke for about an hour-and-a-half—longer than the hour that had been previously reported.
“Not only does TASS report that Trump initiated the phone call with Putin, but TASS claims that Trump and Putin spoke ‘for almost 1.5 hours,’” MSNBC producer Kyle Griffin tweeted. “If true, Trump had nearly 90 minutes to bring up Russian interference in future elections and he didn’t.”
George Conway, a lawyer, commented: “The only way a conversation like this could possibly work to our nation’s advantage would if the Russians were completely confused by Trump’s brainless incoherence, or they simply couldn’t believe his idiocy and imbecility. But unfortunately they’ve probably caught on.”
Kellyanne Conway’s husband also tweeted that “for Trump to be talking to any foreign leader with or without supervision for any length of time is terrifying.”
[…]
George Conway has been criticizing Trump on an almost daily basis, despite the fact that his wife is one of the longest-serving and highest-profile officials in the administration. On Friday, he hashtagged many of his tweets with #DerangedDonald, a nickname he circulated for the president last week.
Trump has clearly been bothered by George Conway’s constant Twitter attacks and lashed out at him in March.
Not into Tom Brady’s hat at Kentucky Derby just now. Looks like an upside down crock pot, or maybe a Mr. Coffee
At least it is obviously not under-inflated.
Very concerned these rainy conditions at Derby could be dangerous.
Yep, slop makes for a dangerous race. I hope the horses don’t experience injury.
Saw that a contractor plane went for a swim. Used to be a military hop on a real Air Force plane guaranteed you would not need to go swimming to reach the run way. The last bonafide contractor plane I flew on was very busy during the Vietnam War.
Yes Pogo not good for the horses to risk this race. They should postpone.
This is just wrong. The horses should not be subjected to this.
Maximum Security ruled the Derby. So happy for a safe race in dangerous conditions.
The jockeys paced it really slow which pretty much guaranteed favorite win. Glad all did well.
A little Derby History, 50 years ago Diane Crump became the first woman jockey to ride a horse in the Kentucky Derby. A good write up in WaPo
Jack
I vote that the finish stands.
Oh my.
The crowd is booing. Or are they cheering? I can’t tell.
Glad I didn’t bet the farm. I’d be packing.
Crazy.
With the disqualification of Maximum Security … the closest any trailmixer came was Flatus with place horse “Code of Honor”.
You can’t run a race on a ridiculously mud soaken track and then disqualify the obviously best horse for getting out of line. Not Derby’s best day.
I defer to the Kentuckian in our midst – and agree. Probably explains the boos I heard during the trophy presentation.
That track was in no condition for a legitimate horse race. Shameful.
well that sucks
If a winning horse is given the dq after the race, can we disqualify SFB and have Hillary take over?
Did i miss the derby? If there had been a resplendently-sparkling rainbow-maned stallion in the race, i would have bet on that horse. Did that one win?
Goddamn, that’s a good one.
Yes, plz
https://youtu.be/vpbblMR_jUo
Scorpio is about as high the sky as it’s going to get- enjoy it!
Here’s to Messier.
What do we say to the God of Death?
“Dance, motherfucker”
Genre-creating genius:
Pleasant travels, peoples of earth.
If a winning horse is given the dq after the race, can we disqualify SFB and have Hillary take over?
bbronc, my tho’ts exactly. the best horse in the race clearly running ahead of the pack denied the prize due to arcane ruling and an unruly noisy mob on the sidelines
craig and trail gang,
There was nothing from Jace for Sunday. This is very unusual and I am reluctant to inquire about it. Perhaps you have heard from him or his family?
In the meantime, any suggestions for a serendipitous day today or is that an oxymoronic request?
Not Jace but this might help to fill in as Maypole dance music for the nonce: Vivaldi: Harpsichord Concerto in A Major
https://youtu.be/NbKgemNu57U
Fodder was a mudder
Patd, hopper.
Bink… thanks for the videos… Loved Nicki Minaj!
Craig… the track conditions were much worst last year when you picked the winner Justify. Last year it was raining heavily the entire day. Yesterday it was mostly drizzling until 20 minutes before the race. They race in the rain on every track everywhere no matter what. To me the shame was that the declared winner really wasn’t affected.
NEW THREAD thanks to pogo
NEW THREAD