There are always two sides to a story. Unfortunately, when it comes to the history of Thanksgiving, generations of Americans have been taught a one-sided history in their homes and schools.
The dominant cultural and historical story has been told from the perspective of the European colonialists who landed near Plymouth Rock in Massachusetts in 1620. In this version of the Thanksgiving story, the holiday commemorates the peaceful, friendly meeting of English settlers and the Wampanoag tribe for three days of feasting and Thanksgiving in 1621.
Every year, news outlets and social media are a-buzz with these idyllic Thanksgiving themes.
There is little coverage of the fact that November is Native American Heritage Month or that the day after Thanksgiving, known to most as Black Friday, is Native American Heritage Day.
[…]
Why Thanksgiving Is Also a National Native Day of Mourning
It’s important to know that for many Native Americans, Thanksgiving is a day of mourning and protest since it commemorates the arrival of settlers in North America and the centuries of oppression and genocide that followed.
Organized by the United American Indians of New England in 1970, the fourth Thursday in November (Thanksgiving) is recognized as the National Day of Mourning for Native Americans and their allies.
Many people gather at Cole’s Hill in Plymouth for an organized rally and day of mourning on Thanksgiving. Here’s what they have to say about this choice to mourn:
“Thanksgiving day is a reminder of the genocide of millions of Native people, the theft of Native lands, and the relentless assault on Native culture. Participants in National Day of Mourning honor Native ancestors and the struggles of Native peoples to survive today. It is a day of remembrance and spiritual connection as well as a protest of the racism and oppression which Native Americans continue to experience.”
[continues]
but back to the non-serious, here’s the real Thanksgiving story by SNL 6 years ago
Pocahontas’ (Melissa Villaseñor) boyfriend, John Smith (Beck Bennett), comes over for Thanksgiving dinner with her family (Will Ferrell, Maya Rudolph, Fred Armisen).
So Dumbass’ solution to 2 WV guardsmen being shot by an Afghan national while they were on his illegal deployment to DC is to deploy 500 more guardsmen to DC and cut off Afghan entry into the US. Crime emergency my ass. Honest to god the man couldn’t get any dumber.
And of course there’s this wrongheaded bullshit. NYT
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has ordered American diplomats in Europe and in Canada, Australia and New Zealand to press their host governments to restrict most immigration and to file reports if the governments appear to be overly supportive of immigrants, according to a document sent to U.S. embassies and consulates.
Mr. Rubio told the diplomats to emphasize the effects of criminal acts by immigrants to encourage greater entry restrictions, according to the document, which is a diplomatic cable dated Nov. 21. The text of the cable, which was obtained by The New York Times, has not been previously reported.
Diplomats should “regularly engage host governments and their respective authorities to raise U.S. concerns about violent crimes associated with people of a migration background” and “any related human rights abuses,” the cable said. It said that those episodes were “widespread disruptors of social cohesion and public safety.”
The diplomats should send reports on crime linked to immigrants to State Department headquarters as well as analysis of how host governments handle the issues, including “policies that unduly favor migrants at the expense of local populations.”
The goal of these actions is to build “host government and stakeholder support to address and reform policies related to migrant crime, defending national sovereignty, and ensuring the safety of local communities,” the cable said.
The Trump administration often uses the term “sovereignty” to describe its efforts to get other countries to allow in fewer foreign citizens and harden their borders — even as it tries to impose policies on sovereign nations.
President Trump, his top aides and many of their supporters have talked about large numbers of migrants and immigrants as a scourge in the United States and Europe. They are determined to get governments to take draconian measures to limit immigration and increase deportations, even though statistics show that irregular border crossings in Europe have been dropping for many months and were decreasing in the United States late in the Biden administration.
In a speech at the United Nations in September, Mr. Trump denounced the “globalist migration agenda.” Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump’s deputy chief of staff for policy, and Vice President JD Vance have been equally vocal. “We cannot rebuild Western civilization, we cannot rebuild the United States of America or Europe, by letting millions and millions of unvetted illegal migrants come into our country,” Mr. Vance said in February.
(…)
Morons.
Hope you all have a great day!!!
Yep, Pog. And now I want to hear from all those FBI and DOJ folks who left warning we are dropping the ball on tracking terrorists. I’d like to know if this was somebody who was or should have been on their watch list?
Poobah, if I understood correctly in my morning haze, according to NBC the suspect came to the US in 2021 under the program for Afghans who helped the US – he had provided assistance to the military and CIA- and was granted asylum by the dumbass administration this year.
The above video is a Marsh Family creation. Donations to their channel go to Save The Children. Subscribing gets you their very creative song parodies without a contribution.
Pog, definitely sounds like somebody who should be on a watch list
A Freberg classic = Have an Indian to Lunch
What is a turkey thankful for on Thanksgiving?
Vegetarians
A Thanksgiving Toast to the Courts 🦃⚖️
This holiday, while the rest of the country is arguing over stuffing recipes and pretending not to talk politics at the table, it’s worth remembering the quiet guardrails that kept Democracy from fishtailing off the highway. A handful of federal judges stepped in when presidential power drifted into pure improv, and they drew the kinds of boundaries that keep the whole system from sliding into “because I said so” territory.
One ruling shut down the idea that a president can summon outside-state troops into our cities like ordering extra gravy. Another blocked an attempt to snatch control of state Guard units for domestic policing. And another tossed criminal cases that never should’ve existed in the first place, because the prosecutor wasn’t even lawfully appointed.
Different courts, different contexts, but each moment was a quiet reminder tha the rule of law doesn’t take holidays — even when presidents wish it would.
If you want the whole rundown, we’ve collected the big moments here:
Mary Trump suggested on Wednesday that the degrading attacks her uncle, Donald Trump, is now more frequently launching against female reporters show that he’s clearly “rattled.”
The president recently told Bloomberg’s Catherine Lucey: “Quiet, piggy,” and earlier this week called The New York Times’ Katie Rogers’ “ugly” after an article she wrote, alongside Dylan Freedman, who he didn’t even refer to, dared to shine a light on his lightened workload and energy levels.
Mary Trump, a clinical psychologist and longtime critic of her relative, argued on the latest episode of “Mary Trump Live” that the “misogynistic attacks against reporters in particular are increasing and that means a couple of things.”
“It means that he’s increasingly comfortable lodging such attacks,” she said. “Like, he’s been as openly misogynistic as he’s been openly racist and openly Islamophobic and openly anti-immigrant and openly antisemitic. “
“There’s no hiding it anymore,” she continued.
“But I think it’s also a sign that he’s a little rattled,” Mary Trump summarized.
The president has also “never clearly heard of the Streisand effect,” she quipped, explaining it as “when you call attention to the thing you want people to ignore,” and doing so is “probably a terrible idea.”
Pogo, Craig
But why , after living here 4 years did he suddenly decide to do a targeted attack. What suddenly pissed him off?
OK, did a quick search after writing those lines.
From USA today:
Lakanwal came to the U.S. in 2021 on a special visa program for Afghans who assisted the U.S. during the Afghanistan war and were vulnerable to reprisals from the ruling Taliban after the U.S. withdrawal, the official told Reuters. But Lakanwal overstayed his visa and is in the country illegally, the official said.
He had a deportation order and for him deportation is a death sentence. He had nothing to lose. In his community, Afghan refugees, he is not the only one. In the last few days I read about a local Afghan caught up in the same situation. Instead of a terrorist, I think we may have a martyr, the Afghan equivalent of the monk setting himself on fire. Given every thing I’ve read about their world, Afghans don’t believe in peace and love, but they damn sure believe in getting “some of his own back”. He can’t reach Trump or any of the others in the chain of command But the National guard was a big large symbol of everything bad about our current government. This wasn’t an act of terrorism but a personal war by a nation of one.
Jack
This is a wild read. Glad somebody’s thinking about it in case it becomes necessary!
Germany’s Secret Plan for War With Russia
A classified blueprint shows why weapons or troop numbers alone may not decide the outcome of a broader conflict between Moscow and the West
The blueprint details how as many as 800,000 German, U.S. and other NATO troops would be ferried eastward toward the front line. It maps the ports, rivers, railways and roads they would travel, and how they would be supplied and protected on the way.
Craig
First thought, this is another shift in the balance of power.
Second thought: It was a strategic leak that sends a message to both Russia and their ally, Trump.
Jack
Our flock of wild turkeys is hiding today. They know.
Jack, ABC says Trump admin granted asylum..
ABC News, “three law-enforcement sources” say Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025.
Mr. Ivy thanks whoever suggested cheesecloth on the oven turkey. Was that you, Craig, or maybe Jamie? He’s cooking his 4th and 5th birds this morning.
🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃
Ivy
Hint about cheesecloth came from my aunt who was the most amazing cook I’ve ever known. I still miss the homemade divinity, fudge and fruitcake. Even using her fruitcake recipe, I come close but not quite right.
Here’s Putie’s response today to “peace” talks…
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that he would end his Ukraine offensive if Kyiv withdrew from territory Moscow claims at its own — otherwise his army would take it by force ➡️ https://u.afp.com/Shmj
I love cheesecloth because no messy basting required.
Wow, Just stepped out on the front porch. Somebody left me a pie. No name just a fancy ribbon
Looks homemade.
Life is good.
Jack
A little poem
there are guns everywhere and a guy snapped
a tale as American as any
this should be an impeachable offense, no hyperbole:
The U.S. peace plan presented to Ukraine appears to have been translated from Russian.
The syntax of certain phrases are more common in the Russian language, such as the third point of the 28-point plan: “It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and Nato will not expand further.”
From Pogo’s post:
“Secretary of State Marco Rubio has ordered American diplomats in Europe and in Canada, Australia and New Zealand to press their host governments to restrict most immigration and to file reports if the governments appear to be overly supportive of immigrants, according to a document sent to U.S. embassies and consulates.”
*Make sure what the US decides are white countries stay that way. There were indigenous people there before there were white colonizers. How presumptuous to think the US has any say in those they allow to come to their countries.
Lakanwal, 29, entered the United States in 2021, multiple law enforcement sources told CBS News on Wednesday.
President Trump described him as “a foreigner who entered our country from Afghanistan, a hellhole on Earth,” in a video message late Wednesday.
A Department of Homeland Security official told CBS News the suspect was paroled into the U.S. on humanitarian grounds back in 2021. That was the main legal mechanism the Biden administration used to welcome tens of thousands of Afghan evacuees after the Taliban takeover in August 2021.
Many of the Afghan nationals who were admitted to the U.S. in 2021 were issued special immigrant visas offered to those who worked alongside the military during its 20-year war, while others were given a temporary humanitarian status known as parole.
Lakanwal later applied for asylum with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in 2024 and his application was granted in 2025, the DHS official said. But his request for a green card, which is tied to the asylum grant, is pending.
*So, he was vetted and granted legal status in 2025? Hmmm. Unless it happened before noon on January 20th, he was given legal status under tRUMPsky.
*It’s like the dumbest, meanest, most arrogant kid you ever knew in 8th grade is running the country…into the ground.
Donny Dumbass is responsible for making a deal with the Taliban and effing up the timing of when the US withdrew, which led to the debacle we saw unfold under Biden.
Donny Dumbass put NG on DC streets for no reason except optics.
I stopped in at our county Democratic Party headquarters to ask if anyone needed help. We were working to fight against the village idiot and a lot of local idiots. I showed up at her house in my 1966 Ford Ranchero and said “Hi. Need me to take something somewhere?” Faith came down the driveway from her garage and said something like “A pickup?” A Ranchero was a car front and pickup rear. “Yes, what do you want me to do?”
Soon a team was loading the bed up with printed materials that she needed to me distributed. So, I headed out around Westminster, dropping bundles at houses. Solved a major problem in a flash of red truck.
After that afternoon, no matter where we were, Faith would almost shout “PAM”. She was wonderful. She also would tell all about how I showed up with my old Ranchero and helped save the day.
I will miss her laugh, and her power in getting things done.
BB – I’m so sorry for your loss.
BB sympathy to you and Pam’s friends and family.
Because Trump sent her where she shouldn’t have been:
• One National Guard member has died as a sprawling federal investigation is underway after yesterday’s “ambush-style” shooting in Washington, DC. Another National Guard member is fighting for his life, President Donald Trump said in a Thanksgiving address to service members.
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Dem proxies need to continue to control the narrative that this tragedy all start with tRUMPSKY.
1st term: His withdrawal deal with the Taliban
2nd term: His stupid PR move to put NG on streets of DC
He did everything except pull the trigger.
FDT…who is MIA from DC
Wonder if the possibility of not getting his green card because of the tRUMPsky/Mitler policies set him off?
I think X.com has obliterated me for the second time. Setting up alternates is getting to be a drag. Guess they didn’t like what I posted.
Trump brags about winning state of slain National Guardswoman
“It’s in the early stages, obviously, but do you plan to attend Sarah’s funeral?” asked a reporter.
“I haven’t thought about it yet, but it’s certainly something I could conceive of,” said Trump. “I love West Virginia. You know, I won West Virginia by one of the biggest margins of any president anywhere. And it’s, you know, these are great people. I love the people of West Virginia. I love the people of our country.”
WTF!?! FDT!
Aaaand obsessing over Afghanistan. Sarah? Sarah who? He’s such a demented, old POS.
I thought everyone had ditched X for BlueSky?
With the announced changes in META platforms, there might be an exodus from those, as well. Starting mid-December, META will scrape all of your data, including DMs, to train AI.
First of all, they’ve probably already scraped the data, this is just announcing a new use.
Secondly, they’ve probably already AI training is for surveillance. Predictive AI.
FMZ!
They’ll drive us into communities of real folks like the trail, and even IRL communities.
They’ll drive us to shop thrift stores, small businesses, to barter and trade with each other, to plant backyard and patio gardens.
I mean, eff them for what they are trying to do to/extract from us, but there will be a backlash.
*
What they should have done.
Jamie, “I still miss the homemade divinity, fudge and fruitcake.” Homemade divinity and fudge – I absolutely loved them. Fruitcake, not so much, but I did have a couple or three I enjoyed that were heavy on the nuts.
BTW, both bId and anon’s comments on the shooting of the WVANG members have merit.
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on a more serious note published November 15, 2024 [a time when D.E.I. was still alive and well]
https://blog.nativehope.org/what-does-thanksgiving-mean-to-native-americans
but back to the non-serious, here’s the real Thanksgiving story by SNL 6 years ago
Pocahontas’ (Melissa Villaseñor) boyfriend, John Smith (Beck Bennett), comes over for Thanksgiving dinner with her family (Will Ferrell, Maya Rudolph, Fred Armisen).
So Dumbass’ solution to 2 WV guardsmen being shot by an Afghan national while they were on his illegal deployment to DC is to deploy 500 more guardsmen to DC and cut off Afghan entry into the US. Crime emergency my ass. Honest to god the man couldn’t get any dumber.
And of course there’s this wrongheaded bullshit. NYT
Hope you all have a great day!!!
Yep, Pog. And now I want to hear from all those FBI and DOJ folks who left warning we are dropping the ball on tracking terrorists. I’d like to know if this was somebody who was or should have been on their watch list?
Poobah, if I understood correctly in my morning haze, according to NBC the suspect came to the US in 2021 under the program for Afghans who helped the US – he had provided assistance to the military and CIA- and was granted asylum by the dumbass administration this year.
The above video is a Marsh Family creation. Donations to their channel go to Save The Children. Subscribing gets you their very creative song parodies without a contribution.
Lets find out if these dots connect… https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-scales-back-staffing-tracking-domestic-terrorism-probes-sources-say-2025-03-21/
Pog, definitely sounds like somebody who should be on a watch list
A Freberg classic = Have an Indian to Lunch
What is a turkey thankful for on Thanksgiving?
Vegetarians
A Thanksgiving Toast to the Courts 🦃⚖️
This holiday, while the rest of the country is arguing over stuffing recipes and pretending not to talk politics at the table, it’s worth remembering the quiet guardrails that kept Democracy from fishtailing off the highway. A handful of federal judges stepped in when presidential power drifted into pure improv, and they drew the kinds of boundaries that keep the whole system from sliding into “because I said so” territory.
One ruling shut down the idea that a president can summon outside-state troops into our cities like ordering extra gravy. Another blocked an attempt to snatch control of state Guard units for domestic policing. And another tossed criminal cases that never should’ve existed in the first place, because the prosecutor wasn’t even lawfully appointed.
Different courts, different contexts, but each moment was a quiet reminder tha the rule of law doesn’t take holidays — even when presidents wish it would.
If you want the whole rundown, we’ve collected the big moments here:
today’s meme…
for first niece Mary fans:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mary-trump-spots-the-tell-in-uncle-s-increasing-meltdowns-at-women-reporters/
Pogo, Craig
But why , after living here 4 years did he suddenly decide to do a targeted attack. What suddenly pissed him off?
OK, did a quick search after writing those lines.
From USA today:
He had a deportation order and for him deportation is a death sentence. He had nothing to lose. In his community, Afghan refugees, he is not the only one. In the last few days I read about a local Afghan caught up in the same situation. Instead of a terrorist, I think we may have a martyr, the Afghan equivalent of the monk setting himself on fire. Given every thing I’ve read about their world, Afghans don’t believe in peace and love, but they damn sure believe in getting “some of his own back”. He can’t reach Trump or any of the others in the chain of command But the National guard was a big large symbol of everything bad about our current government. This wasn’t an act of terrorism but a personal war by a nation of one.
Jack
This is a wild read. Glad somebody’s thinking about it in case it becomes necessary!
Germany’s Secret Plan for War With Russia
Gift link —
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/germany-russia-war-nato-secret-plan-8ce43a8d?st=oLPyiD&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
Craig
First thought, this is another shift in the balance of power.
Second thought: It was a strategic leak that sends a message to both Russia and their ally, Trump.
Jack
Our flock of wild turkeys is hiding today. They know.
Jack, ABC says Trump admin granted asylum..
ABC News, “three law-enforcement sources” say Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025.
Mr. Ivy thanks whoever suggested cheesecloth on the oven turkey. Was that you, Craig, or maybe Jamie? He’s cooking his 4th and 5th birds this morning.
🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃
Ivy
Hint about cheesecloth came from my aunt who was the most amazing cook I’ve ever known. I still miss the homemade divinity, fudge and fruitcake. Even using her fruitcake recipe, I come close but not quite right.
Here’s Putie’s response today to “peace” talks…
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that he would end his Ukraine offensive if Kyiv withdrew from territory Moscow claims at its own — otherwise his army would take it by force ➡️ https://u.afp.com/Shmj
I love cheesecloth because no messy basting required.
Wow, Just stepped out on the front porch. Somebody left me a pie. No name just a fancy ribbon
Looks homemade.
Life is good.
Jack
A little poem
there are guns everywhere and a guy snapped
a tale as American as any
this should be an impeachable offense, no hyperbole:
https://newrepublic.com/post/203517/trump-ukraine-peace-deal-russian-language
From Pogo’s post:
“Secretary of State Marco Rubio has ordered American diplomats in Europe and in Canada, Australia and New Zealand to press their host governments to restrict most immigration and to file reports if the governments appear to be overly supportive of immigrants, according to a document sent to U.S. embassies and consulates.”
*Make sure what the US decides are white countries stay that way. There were indigenous people there before there were white colonizers. How presumptuous to think the US has any say in those they allow to come to their countries.
***
Ivy – Our turkeys are MIA, too.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspect-dc-national-guard-shooting-afghan-national-what-we-know/
Lakanwal, 29, entered the United States in 2021, multiple law enforcement sources told CBS News on Wednesday.
President Trump described him as “a foreigner who entered our country from Afghanistan, a hellhole on Earth,” in a video message late Wednesday.
A Department of Homeland Security official told CBS News the suspect was paroled into the U.S. on humanitarian grounds back in 2021. That was the main legal mechanism the Biden administration used to welcome tens of thousands of Afghan evacuees after the Taliban takeover in August 2021.
Many of the Afghan nationals who were admitted to the U.S. in 2021 were issued special immigrant visas offered to those who worked alongside the military during its 20-year war, while others were given a temporary humanitarian status known as parole.
Lakanwal later applied for asylum with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in 2024 and his application was granted in 2025, the DHS official said. But his request for a green card, which is tied to the asylum grant, is pending.
*So, he was vetted and granted legal status in 2025? Hmmm. Unless it happened before noon on January 20th, he was given legal status under tRUMPsky.
*It’s like the dumbest, meanest, most arrogant kid you ever knew in 8th grade is running the country…into the ground.
Donny Dumbass is responsible for making a deal with the Taliban and effing up the timing of when the US withdrew, which led to the debacle we saw unfold under Biden.
Donny Dumbass put NG on DC streets for no reason except optics.
It all started with Donny Dumbass.
For those of you with links to Colorado this is sad news. A friend of mine was killed in a traffic accident last night. Faith and I first met in 2004, she was already a power person in politics pointing to a future of good.
I stopped in at our county Democratic Party headquarters to ask if anyone needed help. We were working to fight against the village idiot and a lot of local idiots. I showed up at her house in my 1966 Ford Ranchero and said “Hi. Need me to take something somewhere?” Faith came down the driveway from her garage and said something like “A pickup?” A Ranchero was a car front and pickup rear. “Yes, what do you want me to do?”
Soon a team was loading the bed up with printed materials that she needed to me distributed. So, I headed out around Westminster, dropping bundles at houses. Solved a major problem in a flash of red truck.
After that afternoon, no matter where we were, Faith would almost shout “PAM”. She was wonderful. She also would tell all about how I showed up with my old Ranchero and helped save the day.
I will miss her laugh, and her power in getting things done.
BB – I’m so sorry for your loss.
BB sympathy to you and Pam’s friends and family.
Because Trump sent her where she shouldn’t have been:
One National Guard member dies, another critically injured after DC shooting
More
Dem proxies need to continue to control the narrative that this tragedy all start with tRUMPSKY.
1st term: His withdrawal deal with the Taliban
2nd term: His stupid PR move to put NG on streets of DC
He did everything except pull the trigger.
FDT…who is MIA from DC
Wonder if the possibility of not getting his green card because of the tRUMPsky/Mitler policies set him off?
I think X.com has obliterated me for the second time. Setting up alternates is getting to be a drag. Guess they didn’t like what I posted.
It isn’t thanksgiving with out it.
https://www.rawstory.com/dc-shooting-trump/
Trump brags about winning state of slain National Guardswoman
“It’s in the early stages, obviously, but do you plan to attend Sarah’s funeral?” asked a reporter.
“I haven’t thought about it yet, but it’s certainly something I could conceive of,” said Trump. “I love West Virginia. You know, I won West Virginia by one of the biggest margins of any president anywhere. And it’s, you know, these are great people. I love the people of West Virginia. I love the people of our country.”
WTF!?! FDT!
Aaaand obsessing over Afghanistan. Sarah? Sarah who? He’s such a demented, old POS.
I thought everyone had ditched X for BlueSky?
With the announced changes in META platforms, there might be an exodus from those, as well. Starting mid-December, META will scrape all of your data, including DMs, to train AI.
First of all, they’ve probably already scraped the data, this is just announcing a new use.
Secondly, they’ve probably already AI training is for surveillance. Predictive AI.
FMZ!
They’ll drive us into communities of real folks like the trail, and even IRL communities.
They’ll drive us to shop thrift stores, small businesses, to barter and trade with each other, to plant backyard and patio gardens.
I mean, eff them for what they are trying to do to/extract from us, but there will be a backlash.
*
What they should have done.
Jamie, “I still miss the homemade divinity, fudge and fruitcake.” Homemade divinity and fudge – I absolutely loved them. Fruitcake, not so much, but I did have a couple or three I enjoyed that were heavy on the nuts.
BTW, both bId and anon’s comments on the shooting of the WVANG members have merit.
NEW THREAD by our fearless leader