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Bink
3 months ago

Ok so, Olbermann is saying that Wapo is saying that Woodward is saying that trump didn’t give Putin those dinky home test kits, he gave him advanced proprietary testing Machines before such home kits were widely available 

Sturgeone
3 months ago

I see an homage to Johnny Hart in that cartooon.  

Pogo
3 months ago

From WaPo 
 

1. Trump sent American-made coronavirus tests to Putin
 

When Trump was president in 2020, he sent coveted tests for the disease to Russian President Vladimir Putin during a crippling shortage in the United States and around the world.

As the book explains, Putin was petrified of contracting the deadly illness. He accepted the supplies but cautioned Trump not to reveal that he had shared them, concerned for the political fallout that the U.S. president would suffer.

“Please don’t tell anybody you sent these to me,” Putin said to Trump, according to Woodward.
 

Woodward reports that Trump’s reply was: “I don’t care. Fine.”
 

“War” also suggests that Trump and Putin may have spoken as many as seven times since Trump left the White House in 2021. On one occasion, this year, Trump sent an unnamed aide away from his office at his Mar-a-Lago Club so he could conduct a private phone call with Putin, according to the book.

Looks like a case of the old multi level telling of a simple story that ends up contorted and wrong after a few iterations of telling. There’s a reason hearsay is generally inadmissible in court. Guess I’ll have to read the book.

Bink
3 months ago

luckily KO posts the transcript, please hold 

you’re going to have to settle for the Hindustan Times for now:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/trump-secretly-spoke-to-putin-gave-him-covid-test-machines-new-book-says-101728411554673-amp.html

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backchannel tech smuggling, nice

craigcrawford
3 months ago

In 2019 Trump said John Kerry should be prosecuted for talking to Iran.

“John Kerry violated the Logan Act. He’s talking to Iran and has many meetings and many phone calls and he’s telling them what to do. That is total violation of the Logan Act.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/09/john-kerry-logan-act-trump-1314171

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Jimmy Kimmel:

“Trump called Putin seven times since leaving office, which is less than Ivanka, but more than Tiffany”

craigcrawford
3 months ago

An offshoot of this story is a look-back at his COVID handling overall.

Vanity Fair:

“As Trump was supplying Putin with tests his White House killed a plan for ramped-up domestic distribution after determining that the spread of the virus, which was mostly hitting blue states at that time, could be blamed on Democratic governors. More than a million Americans died amid the botched US response.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-putin-covid-tests?_sp=25521f7b-3a76-4c5f-b26d-90c43c1ec0d6.1728475733877

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Trump Bibles are made in Hangzhou, China. They shipped 120,000 of them this year to US. Cost to wholesaler is $3 each. Trump is selling them for $60. Are his new China tariffs going to be slapped on these since they cost American jobs, or will these get one of his famous waivers.

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Bloomberg News: “The Kremlin confirmed that Trump, while president, sent Russian President Vladimir Putin Covid-19 testing devices during the height of the pandemic.”.. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-09/kremlin-confirms-trump-sent-putin-covid-tests-while-president

Pogo
3 months ago

Bink, have to admit, this is the first time I’ve looked at the Hindustani Times.  I don’t doubt for a moment the underlying premise that CS sent tests of some kind to Putin. I’m not sure what “devices” means, but I would like to know.  I don’t think it matters whether they were the home test kits we couldn’t get or more sophisticated tests. In either case he was putting his relationship with Putin over his responsibility to the public health apparatus of the US.
 
Poobah, you should send that Logan Act quote from CS to JDouche’s campaign site.

craigcrawford
3 months ago

chilling AP graphic. As Tampa mayor said, If you stay you die

Sturgeone
3 months ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna174632

Kremlin reportedly confirms Trump sent Putin Covid test machines, denies Putin phone calls since he left office

Pogo
3 months ago

Likely the 2020 version of this ID NOW COVID-19 2.0 rig. Definitely a step (or three) above the home test kits (by about $250), but Abbott also manufactures the Binax tests, which we have lying around.  
 

craigcrawford
3 months ago

National tracker, huge sample:

🔵 Harris 51% (+6)

🔴 Trump 45%

Last poll – 🔵 Harris +5

Morning Consult – 11,353 LikelyVoters 10/6

Pogo
3 months ago

Sturg, back to my comment, now expanded – So who to trust, Bob Woodward or CS & the Kremlin?  Such a difficult choice….🤔🙄🤣

Sturgeone
3 months ago

Sooooo……,Mump stole and hid hundreds of boxes of state secrets and then called the Russian?   That seems traitorous.  

Pogo
3 months ago

Not trusting polls, particularly national ones, but isn’t the rule of thumb under our gerrymandered and slanted EC advantage for Repubs that a nationwide margin of 3% or more is needed to win the EC?  And MC claims a MOE of +/- 1%.  

Bink
3 months ago

I don’t think it matters whether they were the home test kits we couldn’t get or more sophisticated tests.

Oh, it matters.
 
A lot.

March-May 2020 was pre-vaccine, lockdown, medical-overload, height of covid pandemic, while trump was smuggling technology to adversaries through i’d like to know what channels

craigcrawford
3 months ago

True Pogo, assumption is she has to match Biden’s roughly 4.0 in 2020 but I think there is a post-Dobbs, hidden surge posters aren’t picking up. Or maybe I am watching too much TikTok

Also pollsters are still compensating for hidden Trump vote in past elections, perhaps overcompensating.

Sturgeone
3 months ago

I’ve been predicting hidden post-Dobbs surge since Kansas.  I think the women are going to seriously kick some bigot butt cause they’re mad as hell and aren’t gonna take it anymore.
That’s for the presidential election, as for House and senate, that surely would be nice.

Bink
3 months ago

That smuggled med-tech could have been a HUGE bargaining chip for Putin-held hostages who didn’t get released until Biden/Harris negotiated it

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Also there is no contest for the ground game. Republicans are stunningly behind in paid staff, offices, volunteer organizing. They have enthusiasm but aren’t systematiclly channeling it for getting out vote, relying on rallies and unaccountable third parties like Elon and Charlie Kirk. 

In politics, Tie Goes To the Ground

RebelliousRenee
3 months ago

today’s meme…
 
 

IvyGreen
3 months ago

Trump Bibles are made in Hangzhou, China.

Interesting: person I know was arrested in China for distributing bibles. 

Sturgeone
3 months ago

I didn’t know Ethel Kennedy was still alive.  That means RFKjr  is doing all this in front of his mother.  

IvyGreen
3 months ago

I’m glad to see Madam Vice President doing leadership. No doubt some will cry foul. 

Pogo
3 months ago

Bink , now I’m getting curious about timing, etc. Will do some research when I can steal some time. 

Dexter
3 months ago

I miss the days when Ohio decided the victor in the election. I live so close to the Michigan border I still feel the heat.  The 2 repuggs running for Senate and House seats are so awful they just may unseat Brown and Kaptur here. Derrick Merrin and Bernie Moreno…what a pair. Moreno is from a Colombian ruling class family of unlimited wealth who owns multiple car dealerships and screwed them out of overtime pay until the courts made him pay.  Merrin is just a JD Vance coattail rider with 100% the same viewpoints and causes. 
My ballot just arrived.  I’ll turn it in tomorrow. 

whskyjack
3 months ago

Looks like Milton is calming down a bit, as predicted. Wind speed is down to 130mph. on the borderline between cat3 and cat4 At one point I read it  briefly had wind speeds up as high as 190.
There is still going to be a large storm surge. 
Jack

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Don-Old on stage now. Scranton 

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Today’s Trump rally (Scranton):

“I don’t want to be nice. Somebody said you should be nicer, the women won’t like it. I don’t care”

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1844107032040775693?t=fRz1oQ2reTUl1UNTFblvtA&s=19

craigcrawford
3 months ago

They just announced Barack Obama rally in Pittsburgh tomorrow night

craigcrawford
3 months ago

Stern show just posted the full hour of Kamala interview..

Pogo
3 months ago

My money is on CS having given Vlad Abbott’s Alinity system back in 2020. Screw the citizens of the US.

Bink
3 months ago

This is why i put you on the case 🥂 😜 

i got another question for you

whskyjack
3 months ago

Kamala’s media blitz with Stern and Cobert is a good thing, 3 days later and nobody even remembers she did 60 min. Yet she gets credit for dealing with a tough interview.  She has some smart people, and she gets out of their way.
Jack

Bink
3 months ago

…since i’m such an independent thinker, i’m registered ‘independent’ (obviously), so i get all the PAC attack mailers.
 
The Repulsivelicans can’t find a bad picture of her 😆

Bink
3 months ago

i’ll listen to the Stern interview but if he asks if she resents her father and is in love with the law i’m dipping 

Pogo
3 months ago

Bink, what would that question be?
 

Bink
3 months ago

What else did he give him?
 

GOP ticket = Unfit + Unqualified
 
Vote Harris/Walz 2024 🇺🇸 Adults In Charge 🦅

IvyGreen
3 months ago

The etching on his tombstone…wasn’t nice, didn’t care.

“I don’t want to be nice… I don’t care”

Pogo
3 months ago

Bink? Other than the BJs?

Dexter
3 months ago

I have it on certified authorized fact the the Democrats have planned for a 72F degree day on January 20 for the inauguration. If the unthinkable happens, fire will rain down on the inaugural swearing-in, biblical thunder bolts.  Yeah, we done-got this weather thing.  
A close work-friend with whim I worked with for many years in the factory passed at 75, just 4 months my senior.  Even though I haven’t seen him in 22 years, the memories of how a good friend with a fatalistic hilarious sense of humor made drudgery factory work tolerable, are present in my thoughts, all day today. Tom. Good guy.