Iran shoots down U.S. naval drone in Persian Gulf region: officials
DUBAI — Iran shot down a U.S. naval surveillance drone near the Strait of Hormuz, Iranian and U.S. officials said Thursday, adding to weeks of tensions in the Persian Gulf region amid growing concerns of a possible war.
Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps said that it targeted the drone — a RQ-4 Global Hawk — inside Iranian airspace Thursday over the southern province of Hormozgan, next to the Strait of Hormuz.
A spokesman for the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet directed questions to the U.S. Central Command, which was not immediately available for comment.
A U.S. official, however, confirmed the incident to the Associated Press and said that the drone was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz.
“The downing of the American drone was a clear message to America,” the Revolutionary Guard’s chief commander, Gen. Hossein Salami, said Thursday. His remarks were carried live by Iranian state television.
“Our borders are Iran’s red line and we will react strongly against any aggression,” he said. “Iran is not seeking war with any country, but we are fully prepared to defend Iran.”
The United States has joined Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Iran in a rogue’s gallery of countries perceived as likely to use their influence for bad. All five countries are also seen as less likely to use their influence for good than they were 10 years ago.
[…]
The poll was conducted amongst 17,000 adults around the world conducted by Ipsos Mori in 24 countries on behalf of Policy Institute at Kings College London.
It shows Iran as the country seen as most likely to use its influence for bad, 31% followed by Israel 24%, Russia 25%, Saudi Arabia 25% and the US 22%.
Globally, Canada (37%), the UN (35%) and Germany (32%) are seen as the countries most likely to be seen as forces for good.
British respondents were among the most likely, with Sweden (50%), Hungary (46%) and South Africa (43%), to say a country’s human rights record should be an important factor in deciding relations with that country: 41% in Great Britain mention this, versus 30% globally.
Over (36%) of people around the world think their country should only trade with countries with a good human rights record, even if it hurts their economy – but 33% think their country should trade with any country if it helps their economy, regardless of that country’s record on human rights. Globally, half (53%) think their own country’s military should always put avoiding civilian casualties ahead of their national interest. Only 14% disagree.
Fifty-one percent say that countries should intervene to stop war crimes even if it infringes on sovereignty.
Well fat Donnie has certainly moved our country into an elite group of other countries hasn’t he? Those the rest of the world views as using their power for bad rather than for good.
And isn’t that sweet, fat Donna gave Arthur laugh or the medal of freedom. The dumb fuck who gave us Reaganomics, And now Trumpanomics.
We have now become a country where 48% of our people for the blind being led by the clueless.
we were warned. remember these stories from 2017 & 2018 that tell us what’s in his mind about tactics for presidents with re-election troubles
newsweek:Is Trump Wagging the Dog? How Bush, Obama and Clinton Used War or Military to Distract From Problems at Home
[…]
Trump’s perceived ploy—of using the military to distract Americans from problems within his administration—
[continues]
newsweek: Trump Repeatedly Accused Obama of Plotting to Attack Iran to ‘Save Face’ and ‘Get Re-elected’
[…]
As early as November 29, 2011, Trump warned long before his own political career would take off that “In order to get elected, Barack Obama will start a war with Iran.”
On January 17, 2012, Trump reiterated the claim, predicting that Obama “will attack Iran in order to get re-elected.”
Then, nearly a year later, on October 9, 2012, Trump wrote: “Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in a tailspin, watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran,” adding: “He is desperate.”
Just over a year later on September 16, 2013, Trump tweeted: “I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!”
“Remember what I previously said–Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is,” the now-U.S. president reminded the country on September 25, 2013.
Pat, that second headline is what I believe they call irony.
So anyone know whether there will be tickets to the July 4 Trumpchella and whether proceeds will be dedicated to the committee to re-elect the moron?
Trump Remakes D.C.’s July Fourth Celebration to Include Himself
Donald Trump’s revamped Fourth of July celebration on the National Mall will include a presidential address from the Lincoln Memorial and a military display with plane flyovers and demonstrations by all five branches of the armed services.
The annual fireworks display will also be relocated to a site near the Martin Luther King Jr. memorial, the Interior Department said in a statement on Wednesday. That will allow more people to gather closer to the site of the president’s speech but will create new logistical challenges for the decades-old event that draws thousands of Americans to downtown Washington.
Trump will be the first president to address the nation on Independence Day from the Mall in recent memory.
“For the first time in many years, the World War II Memorial and areas around the Reflecting Pool will be open for the public to enjoy a stunning fireworks display and an address by our Commander-in-Chief,” the Interior Department said in the statement. “We are excited to open these new areas so that more visitors may experience this year’s Independence Day celebration in our nation’s capital.”
Trump sought to revamp the annual July 4 celebration after his plans for a military parade on Veteran’s Day were stymied by complaints about the cost. The president has been enamored of the idea of a Washington celebration with a military component since attending the 2017 Bastille Day parade in Paris, which included an aerial display, thousands of marching soldiers and hundreds of military vehicles.
But the effort has drawn criticism from Trump’s political opponents, who say the president is recasting a traditionally nonpartisan national celebration to revolve around himself. And Washington’s mayor, Muriel Bowser, told the Washington Post that the president’s attendance and re-positioning of the fireworks could create security and logistical concerns.
“If we have to put more police to cover his movements, more police for the fireworks and an additional location for police where the fireworks are going to get set off, that puts a strain on us,” Bowser said.
It is unclear how much the changes will cost the federal and local governments.
Trump criticized District officials when his initial plans for a military parade were derailed.
Bowser responded by saying the event would have cost the city $21.6 million, and mocked Trump as “the reality star in the White House.”
Trump plans to speak at the “Salute of America” event at the Lincoln Memorial at 6:30 p.m. The traditional “Capitol Fourth” concert on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol will take place from 8 p.m. to 9:30 p.m., coinciding with a 20-minute firework display that will run from 9:07 p.m. to 9:27 p.m.
F.E.C. are you listening? isn’t this a campaign rally being paid for by taxpayers? hatch act anyone?
Mr. Cracker is very concerned about the idea of war because he remembers Bush saying –don’t switch horses during a war. In his case he should have said don’t switch asses
And dumb Americans bought into that
One-Time Pal Donny Deutsch Warns Trump Is ‘Cornered,’ Will Destroy World to Save ‘His Hide’
[…]
Continued Deutsch: “What is [Trump] capable of doing at the expense of the world or the United States or the consumer to save himself? I’m concerned that this is a harbinger of things to come. What will he do with North Korea at the expense of the rest of the world?”
The ominous warning from a one-time friend who worked with Trump on his TV show The Apprentice, comes at the close of a week in which Hicks, Trump’s White House communications director and trusted confidant was questioned by the House Intelligence Committee and then announced her resignation.
[…]
“…[Trump] is a man with his hand at the controls and yes a trade war is very, very concerning. What are the other things he is capable of doing at the expense of all of us to save or protect or deflect when it comes to his own hide?”
Ms Cracker, by ‘rogue agent’ do you suppose trump means pompey, bloton, and himself ?
I kinda like that ‘blot on’ pun. I expect that Mr Sturgeone likes that pompey tag.
Just after I posted at 1:16 I heard that Putin warned SFB of “dire consequences” if he took military action against Iraq. It was reported during during an MSNBC interview with Jack Jacobs (at least I think that was the context I heard it in).
“he was thinking Iranian teenager in his mother’s basement covered in Cheeto dust”
kgc, you missed adding his usual suspect
“I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds,”
The Senate voted to block the sale of billions of dollars of munitions to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates on Thursday, in a sharp and bipartisan rebuke of the Trump administration’s attempt to circumvent Congress to allow the exports by declaring an emergency over Iran.
In three back-to-back votes, Republicans joined Democrats to register their growing anger with the administration’s use of emergency power to cut lawmakers out of national security decisions, as well as the White House’s unflagging support for the Saudis despite congressional pressure to punish Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the killing in October of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
No other foreign policy issue has created as large a rift between President Trump and Congress, and the vote to block the arms sales deepens the divide. It is the second time in just a few months that members of Mr. Trump’s party have publicly opposed his foreign policy, with both the House and Senate approving bipartisan legislation this spring to cut off military assistance to Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen using the 1973 War Powers Act, only to see it vetoed.
While the Democrat-controlled House is also expected to block the sales, Mr. Trump has pledged to veto the legislation, and it is unlikely that either chamber could muster enough support to override the president’s veto. Seven Republicans — not nearly enough to override a veto — broke from their party to disapprove of the sales to Saudi Arabia: Senator Susan Collins of Maine, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Senator Mike Lee of Utah, Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and Senator Todd Young of Indiana.
[…]
The question the Senate will consider, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, said, “is whether we’ll lash out at an imperfect partner and undercut our own efforts to build cooperation, check Iran and achieve other important goals, or whether we’ll keep our imperfect partners close and use our influence.”
But the administration’s argument ultimately fell flat even for some of the president’s closest allies, like Mr. Graham, who co-sponsored the legislation with Mr. Menendez.
“The reason I’m voting with Senator Paul and others today is to send a signal to Saudi Arabia that if you act the way you’re acting, there is no space for a strategic relationship,” he said. “There is no amount of oil you can produce that will get me and others to give you a pass on chopping somebody up in a consulate.”
[…]
The vote came the same day that Britain announced it would temporarily suspend approval of any new licenses to sell arms to Saudi Arabia, after an unexpected court ruling that ministers had acted unlawfully in allowing the sale of weapons when there was a clear possibility they might be used in violation of international humanitarian law in Yemen.
At the same time, Democrats are leading a charge to curtail Trump’s warmaking powers, in the hope that doing so will prevent the situation from turning into all-out war.
On Wednesday night, the House passed an appropriations bill that would sunset a 2001 authorization for military force many Democrats worry might be used to justify a military confrontation with Iran.
Later this month, Democrats are expected to try to amend language in a defense bill to prevent Trump from engaging in military hostilities with Iran unless he first seeks congressional authorization.
Roy Moore, the Alabama judge whose Senate bid fell short over allegations of sexual misconduct with teenage girls in the 1970s, announced Thursday that he will run again for the seat, ignoring President Trump and top Republicans who argue he can’t win.
“I will run for the U.S. Senate in 2020,” Moore said, kicking off his campaign in Montgomery, Ala. “Can I win? Yes, I can win. They know I can. That’s why there’s so much opposition.”
Moore lost a Senate race in the solidly Republican state to Democrat Doug Jones in a 2017 special election to fill the vacancy created when Trump tapped Jeff Sessions to be attorney general.
About a month before that election, The Washington Post published accounts from four women who said Moore pursued them romantically in the 1970s when they were between the ages of 14 and 18. Moore has acknowledged contact with the women but denied any sexual contact.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the other, non-orange face of the republican party.
“Why is there such a fear, such an anger, why such a hatred, an opposition to somebody running?” Moore, 72, asked in making his announcement. “The mere mention of my name causes people to get up in arms in Washington, D.C. Is it because I’m a staunch conservative? . . . Is it because I believe in God, in marriage, morality in our country? Is it because I believe in the right of the baby in the womb to have a life?”
Umm, no. How about, because you are a pervert and everyfuckingbody knows it?
US women continue their winning ways, beat Sweden 2-0.
LE HAVRE, France — An early goal by Lindsey Horan and an own goal by Sweden carried the United States to a 2-0 victory at the World Cup on Thursday, the third consecutive dominant performance by the Americans in defense of their world title.
Horan scored on a goal-mouth scramble in the third minutes and Jonna Andersson was credited with an own goal after deflecting in a hard, tight-angle shot by Tobin Heath in the 50th minute. Heath, who teased the Sweden defenders from her right-wing position most of the night and also offered a hustling defensive performance, was named the game’s most valuable player.
The Americans advanced to a game against Spain on Monday in the round of 16 in Reims. If they win there, they will play host France in the quarterfinals. The matchup of heavyweights is both mouth-watering and frustrating for organizers, since one of the favorites will go out of the tournament in it.
How not to compete in the Amazon Prime world.
I stopped in at local home improvement store, which shall remain nameless but rhymes with home depot, to buy a new dishwasher. I need an eighteen inch unit. So the person in appliances says they do not have those in stock, but she would show me what is available. Well. I watched as she, she and I might be of the same era (Baby Boomers), but she should practice a bit at home to try and use a laptop and search engine. She did assure me that if I BOUGHT a machine today it would, or rather, might be, delivered in a week or two to the store. I can buy one online on Amazon Prime and have it delivered to my house tomorrow (it is 7:40 pm). And, from the pricing I can match on the unmentioned company and Amazon and find it cheaper and delivered by Amazon.
Lowes and Home Depot are losing sales to Amazon. Yah wonder why?
BB,
Who’s not? I needed a stabilizer bar for the mower deck of my lawn tractor- I break one about every 2 years. Went to the local box store (rhymes with Lowes) – could order one for $20 and get it in a week. Went Monday to the local hardware store that sells, services Husky stuff – same story. Went to my computer Tuesday morning, ordered one for $13.31, got a 2nd one for the next time, got them today in my mailbox and shipping was free. I’ll be cutting grass tomorrow afternoon.
bbronc & pogo, only problem with shopping like that is eventually there will be nothing around you but rundown abandoned buildings and no stores to run to for momentary purchases. a lot of neighbors out of work.
trumpussy hasn’t yet grasped the twin concepts of talk softly and carry a big stick. He works foreign policy completely bassackwards.
I score this as grand ayatollah 4 and trumpussy 0. And it’s still early innings.
wapo:
Iran shoots down U.S. naval drone in Persian Gulf region: officials
DUBAI — Iran shot down a U.S. naval surveillance drone near the Strait of Hormuz, Iranian and U.S. officials said Thursday, adding to weeks of tensions in the Persian Gulf region amid growing concerns of a possible war.
Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps said that it targeted the drone — a RQ-4 Global Hawk — inside Iranian airspace Thursday over the southern province of Hormozgan, next to the Strait of Hormuz.
A spokesman for the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet directed questions to the U.S. Central Command, which was not immediately available for comment.
A U.S. official, however, confirmed the incident to the Associated Press and said that the drone was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile over international airspace in the Strait of Hormuz.
“The downing of the American drone was a clear message to America,” the Revolutionary Guard’s chief commander, Gen. Hossein Salami, said Thursday. His remarks were carried live by Iranian state television.
“Our borders are Iran’s red line and we will react strongly against any aggression,” he said. “Iran is not seeking war with any country, but we are fully prepared to defend Iran.”
the guardian:
The United States has joined Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Iran in a rogue’s gallery of countries perceived as likely to use their influence for bad. All five countries are also seen as less likely to use their influence for good than they were 10 years ago.
[…]
The poll was conducted amongst 17,000 adults around the world conducted by Ipsos Mori in 24 countries on behalf of Policy Institute at Kings College London.
It shows Iran as the country seen as most likely to use its influence for bad, 31% followed by Israel 24%, Russia 25%, Saudi Arabia 25% and the US 22%.
Globally, Canada (37%), the UN (35%) and Germany (32%) are seen as the countries most likely to be seen as forces for good.
British respondents were among the most likely, with Sweden (50%), Hungary (46%) and South Africa (43%), to say a country’s human rights record should be an important factor in deciding relations with that country: 41% in Great Britain mention this, versus 30% globally.
Over (36%) of people around the world think their country should only trade with countries with a good human rights record, even if it hurts their economy – but 33% think their country should trade with any country if it helps their economy, regardless of that country’s record on human rights. Globally, half (53%) think their own country’s military should always put avoiding civilian casualties ahead of their national interest. Only 14% disagree.
Fifty-one percent say that countries should intervene to stop war crimes even if it infringes on sovereignty.
Well fat Donnie has certainly moved our country into an elite group of other countries hasn’t he? Those the rest of the world views as using their power for bad rather than for good.
And isn’t that sweet, fat Donna gave Arthur laugh or the medal of freedom. The dumb fuck who gave us Reaganomics, And now Trumpanomics.
We have now become a country where 48% of our people for the blind being led by the clueless.
House Democrats vote to repeal 9/11-era law used to authorize perpetual war.
As the United States escalates tensions with Iran, House Democrats are sending President Trump a message: If he wants to take military action, he has to get permission from Congress first.
we were warned. remember these stories from 2017 & 2018 that tell us what’s in his mind about tactics for presidents with re-election troubles
newsweek: Is Trump Wagging the Dog? How Bush, Obama and Clinton Used War or Military to Distract From Problems at Home
[…]
Trump’s perceived ploy—of using the military to distract Americans from problems within his administration—
[continues]
newsweek: Trump Repeatedly Accused Obama of Plotting to Attack Iran to ‘Save Face’ and ‘Get Re-elected’
[…]
As early as November 29, 2011, Trump warned long before his own political career would take off that “In order to get elected, Barack Obama will start a war with Iran.”
On January 17, 2012, Trump reiterated the claim, predicting that Obama “will attack Iran in order to get re-elected.”
Then, nearly a year later, on October 9, 2012, Trump wrote: “Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in a tailspin, watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran,” adding: “He is desperate.”
Just over a year later on September 16, 2013, Trump tweeted: “I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!”
“Remember what I previously said–Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is,” the now-U.S. president reminded the country on September 25, 2013.
[continues]
Pat, that second headline is what I believe they call irony.
So anyone know whether there will be tickets to the July 4 Trumpchella and whether proceeds will be dedicated to the committee to re-elect the moron?
raw story may 17 2019: Trump warned us in 2011 that a ‘desperate’ president would attack Iran to win re-election
pogo, here’s latest yesterday from bloomberg:
F.E.C. are you listening? isn’t this a campaign rally being paid for by taxpayers? hatch act anyone?
Mr. Cracker is very concerned about the idea of war because he remembers Bush saying –don’t switch horses during a war. In his case he should have said don’t switch asses
And dumb Americans bought into that
another ominous quote in people last year:
One-Time Pal Donny Deutsch Warns Trump Is ‘Cornered,’ Will Destroy World to Save ‘His Hide’
[…]
Continued Deutsch: “What is [Trump] capable of doing at the expense of the world or the United States or the consumer to save himself? I’m concerned that this is a harbinger of things to come. What will he do with North Korea at the expense of the rest of the world?”
The ominous warning from a one-time friend who worked with Trump on his TV show The Apprentice, comes at the close of a week in which Hicks, Trump’s White House communications director and trusted confidant was questioned by the House Intelligence Committee and then announced her resignation.
[…]
“…[Trump] is a man with his hand at the controls and yes a trade war is very, very concerning. What are the other things he is capable of doing at the expense of all of us to save or protect or deflect when it comes to his own hide?”
[continues]
What’s this shit I hear about SFB taking a moderate tone with regard to Iran shooting down a drone?
Pogo… maybe he thought they said that Iran shot down a crone…
Mr Pogo,
The answer to yours of 1:16 pm is that russia and Iran are buddies through the good offices of Syria & hizbullah.
He said it could be a rogue agent unauthorized by the Iranian govt.
Our scorpions and roaches will destroy their scorpions and roaches.
Ms Cracker, by ‘rogue agent’ do you suppose trump means pompey, bloton, and himself ?
I kinda like that ‘blot on’ pun. I expect that Mr Sturgeone likes that pompey tag.
I think he was thinking Iranian teenager in his mother’s basement covered in Cheeto dust
Just after I posted at 1:16 I heard that Putin warned SFB of “dire consequences” if he took military action against Iraq. It was reported during during an MSNBC interview with Jack Jacobs (at least I think that was the context I heard it in).
and maybe when bloton says war… the orange one thinks he saying whore…
“he was thinking Iranian teenager in his mother’s basement covered in Cheeto dust”
kgc, you missed adding his usual suspect
“I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds,”
you know, the one that also hacked into DNC.
nytimes;
The Senate voted to block the sale of billions of dollars of munitions to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates on Thursday, in a sharp and bipartisan rebuke of the Trump administration’s attempt to circumvent Congress to allow the exports by declaring an emergency over Iran.
In three back-to-back votes, Republicans joined Democrats to register their growing anger with the administration’s use of emergency power to cut lawmakers out of national security decisions, as well as the White House’s unflagging support for the Saudis despite congressional pressure to punish Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the killing in October of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
No other foreign policy issue has created as large a rift between President Trump and Congress, and the vote to block the arms sales deepens the divide. It is the second time in just a few months that members of Mr. Trump’s party have publicly opposed his foreign policy, with both the House and Senate approving bipartisan legislation this spring to cut off military assistance to Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen using the 1973 War Powers Act, only to see it vetoed.
While the Democrat-controlled House is also expected to block the sales, Mr. Trump has pledged to veto the legislation, and it is unlikely that either chamber could muster enough support to override the president’s veto. Seven Republicans — not nearly enough to override a veto — broke from their party to disapprove of the sales to Saudi Arabia: Senator Susan Collins of Maine, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Senator Mike Lee of Utah, Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and Senator Todd Young of Indiana.
[…]
The question the Senate will consider, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, said, “is whether we’ll lash out at an imperfect partner and undercut our own efforts to build cooperation, check Iran and achieve other important goals, or whether we’ll keep our imperfect partners close and use our influence.”
But the administration’s argument ultimately fell flat even for some of the president’s closest allies, like Mr. Graham, who co-sponsored the legislation with Mr. Menendez.
“The reason I’m voting with Senator Paul and others today is to send a signal to Saudi Arabia that if you act the way you’re acting, there is no space for a strategic relationship,” he said. “There is no amount of oil you can produce that will get me and others to give you a pass on chopping somebody up in a consulate.”
[…]
The vote came the same day that Britain announced it would temporarily suspend approval of any new licenses to sell arms to Saudi Arabia, after an unexpected court ruling that ministers had acted unlawfully in allowing the sale of weapons when there was a clear possibility they might be used in violation of international humanitarian law in Yemen.
and in same kind of story in wapo:
[…]
At the same time, Democrats are leading a charge to curtail Trump’s warmaking powers, in the hope that doing so will prevent the situation from turning into all-out war.
On Wednesday night, the House passed an appropriations bill that would sunset a 2001 authorization for military force many Democrats worry might be used to justify a military confrontation with Iran.
Later this month, Democrats are expected to try to amend language in a defense bill to prevent Trump from engaging in military hostilities with Iran unless he first seeks congressional authorization.
btw, if tom cotton gets nominated for defsec, that would let ark. gov Hutchinson appoint sarah to replace him.
or in another loyal trumper case he could put lindsey at defense so nikki could become a senator.
It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds….
Iow trumputin himself.
XR, you had the same thought I had.
Heheheh. Roy Moore’s running.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the other, non-orange face of the republican party.
More from Moore….
Umm, no. How about, because you are a pervert and everyfuckingbody knows it?
US women continue their winning ways, beat Sweden 2-0.
From NYTimes.
How not to compete in the Amazon Prime world.
I stopped in at local home improvement store, which shall remain nameless but rhymes with home depot, to buy a new dishwasher. I need an eighteen inch unit. So the person in appliances says they do not have those in stock, but she would show me what is available. Well. I watched as she, she and I might be of the same era (Baby Boomers), but she should practice a bit at home to try and use a laptop and search engine. She did assure me that if I BOUGHT a machine today it would, or rather, might be, delivered in a week or two to the store. I can buy one online on Amazon Prime and have it delivered to my house tomorrow (it is 7:40 pm). And, from the pricing I can match on the unmentioned company and Amazon and find it cheaper and delivered by Amazon.
Lowes and Home Depot are losing sales to Amazon. Yah wonder why?
BB,
Who’s not? I needed a stabilizer bar for the mower deck of my lawn tractor- I break one about every 2 years. Went to the local box store (rhymes with Lowes) – could order one for $20 and get it in a week. Went Monday to the local hardware store that sells, services Husky stuff – same story. Went to my computer Tuesday morning, ordered one for $13.31, got a 2nd one for the next time, got them today in my mailbox and shipping was free. I’ll be cutting grass tomorrow afternoon.
bbronc & pogo, only problem with shopping like that is eventually there will be nothing around you but rundown abandoned buildings and no stores to run to for momentary purchases. a lot of neighbors out of work.
amazon: local shops = internet:local newspapers
trumpussy hasn’t yet grasped the twin concepts of talk softly and carry a big stick. He works foreign policy completely bassackwards.
I score this as grand ayatollah 4 and trumpussy 0. And it’s still early innings.
Dollar General is flying high.
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