Donald Trump’s escalating hissy fits over Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation coincides with signals that his company’s past business dealings with Russia are under scrutiny.
Apparently this strikes a nerve. If, as Trump asserts, the Russia-connection allegations are a hoax, why is he so obviously afraid of this investigation? If there is nothing to hide why not ignore Mueller?
Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and his lawyers seem to think Mueller is probing pre-Administration ties between Russia and Trump businesses. He went out of his way after testifying to Senate staffers this week to say he did not “rely” on Russian money in his business. That’s not saying he took no money from Russia.
It doesn’t take a lot of tea leaves to figure out where Mueller might be going — that Putin is blackmailing our president. Prove that Trump is trying to hide dirty business deals with Russia that Putin knows all about, connect that to Trump Administration accommodations for Putin, and you’re almost there. Surely a president subject to blackmail by a hostile foreign government is impeachment worthy.
[Cross-posted via HuffPost]
don jr said “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,….We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” so why not expect scrutiny?
whatwith sons, son in law and daughter openly wheeling and dealing with the big red bear over the years and whatwith the many public vlad-don bromanic tweets , why would blackmail come to mind [she says sarcastically]?
Interesting thought, and a possible easy get. Gee, if it does go this way it couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people. ?
Any stoopid tweets from SFB this morning?
Oh, and it appears I gave Shelley Moore Capito too much credit. She voted for that stupid version of the repeal and replace bill that included Cruz’s amendment.
As reprehensible as the Republicans are, they find a way to succeed in the end. Thinking back to early 2009, when headlines blared the GOP was a dying Party. The Democrats had the upper hand. Remember? Even with a two term President the Democratic Party was obstructed, spayed & neutered by a truly rotten lot of Republicans. Wouldn’t be surprised if GOP strategy has already been planned when/if #45 goes down; he may already be irrelevant in their plans. Another Republican will be sworn in anyway. They have the ability to herd cats which the Democrats do not.
Thanks to the local VFW chapter, I got this nifty little flag sticker that I’m trying to figure out how to use In a non Jingoistic Way so it will never be confused with support of the current administration. Any ideas?
It’s obvious that the Russians have the ‘quid’ and plenty of it. Wonder how much pro quo the Trumps have provided?
I think that in an odd and unintended way Trump’s attacks on both Sessions and Mueller are making it more difficult to get rid of them. He raises the ante Dailey and along with it their profile. When and if they are finally gone the only question on everybody’s mind will be , how much did they know?
Team Trump would do well to remember Nixon’s fate. He got rid of Archibald Cox, only to be confronted with Leon Jawarski. The rest is history.
If he does fire Mueller, the question becomes whether enough Republicans have the guts bring back the independent prosecutor law and give Mueller the job, which would leave the president out of the equation
Yep, Pogo — Capito showed her loyalty, and it’s not with her constituents. What, about a third of them on Medicaid?
Craig,
No question there. They don’t and they won’t.
pogo, if you can stick it near a comparable and compatible pro-environmental* sticker it will erase all doubt as to your message.
*you may have to duck lumps of coal thrown your way
craig, sen king thinks (or hopes fervently) reenacting spl prosecutor will be the case mojo this morning
Removing Mueller ‘very damaging’: Senator King
Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, discusses Jared Kushner, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and why recusing himself was the right decision and what he says could happen if Trump fired Special Counsel Mueller.
Ken Starr’s partisan rampage killed interest in renewing the independent prosecutor law. Trump might renew interest. I guess it was officially called Independent Counsel — a 3-judge panel from federal appeals court managed the appointment and management of the prosecutor, not the president or attorney general.
Say what you will about the Senate, they tend to rally around one of their own. If Trump fires Sessions a good many of his former colleagues will react poorly to it.
Still not sure they would appoint a special counsel but it would certainly increase the odds.
Looks like Sessions is staying put, refusing to resign. Trump is cornered. Firing him would not only piss off Cap Hill GOP, but a lot of right wing Trump voters who love Sessions. One thing about Trump world, he’s been known to bring people back in the fold once they’ve endure his humiliation.
After a fair run at trying to establish some form of equality over the span of a society throughout the world since WWII, it appears that the ideal is about to fall apart into a new edition of the barons and serfs. Those at the top consume the majority of the resources, educate, marry and hang out together while for the most part maintaining a whole separation from the rest of society. The next level down exists to serve their convenience and in exchange is allowed to have a reasonably good scale of life where every once in a while someone manages to bubble up and join the top layer. From there on down it is a matter of who is dispensable and who is still needed to feed, clothe, and service the top and middle.
Human beings go through this cycle at fairly regular intervals. The trick is how to avoid some form of Black Death followed by Dark Ages and survive long enough for a renaissance to appear.
The current administration and its greed is good crowd has us skating on very thin ice. With today’s arsenal of weapons, it is very thin ice indeed.
all the q&a in new politico poll
but, even tho’ there were other rather interesting topics, here’s the only one getting media attention Poll: Nearly half of Trump voters think he won the popular vote
Jamie,
The Rs can’t bring back the plague. Their next best option was to take away healthcare for the masses. That should eliminate twenty or thirty million people over time.
Nearly half of Trump voters think he won the popular vote. The same number believe that if you sail too far you will fall off the edge of the earth.
for those on the trail wondering what’s been going on behind the scenes to improve 2018 prospects, here’s a tidbit and comfort that dr dean is back in the picture bigly:
While Clinton has been wrapping up her book, she has been working quietly on helping Democrats win future elections. She’s been working with Howard Dean, along with a small group of aides who have spent much of their time checking in with states and organizations to find out what their challenges are and how she can be most helpful.
Earlier this year, she launched a PAC, Onward Together, with the intention of helping congressional Democratic candidates in 2018.
“She wants to make sure the resources coming in to Onward Together have maximum impact,” said one source familiar with the process. “She’s playing the long game.”
btw, the money being thrown into the effort is nothing to sneeze at
Shame on NPR. Just listened to an interview with Newt Gringich. Sickening! Same schmuck spouting the same tired lines, possibly as deranged as Trump.
NPR needs to stop giving air time to the likes of him.
Note to HRC and Dean both. Don’t study it to death, it’s not that complicated.
Spend that money and effort to register new voters and re register purged voters! For every voter purged, register two new ones. Don’t try to out think them, just out vote them.
from the healthaffairsblog
July 26 will also bring a vote on a motion by Senator Donnelly (D IN) to recommit the bill to the Senate Finance Committee to remove all provisions that would cut Medicaid, end the Medicaid expansion, or shift costs to the states.
has this any chance of passing? could be the door opening to bipartisan compromise to actually fix some of the aca problems the dems agree need fixing
Jace
I was thinking in terms of things that make mushroom clouds. With mass famine and refugees, many of the old diseases are still as effective for killing if not in the same quantity unless something new crops up while wiping out the Amazon. At a current annual growth rate of roughly 80 million, a few million is too easily replaceable these days.
Well, I asked about stoopid tweets – question answered: Trump rolling back Obama rules allowing transgender service members.
And, no, Poobah, Capito’s loyalty is not with the poor of WV – the rich have so much more money after all. Prolly got some pressure from our coal baron governor.
horsey at la times column and cartoon “Trump subjects Boy Scouts to a political rant that demeans the presidency” says it well
At a campaign-style rally in Ohio on Tuesday night, President Trump insisted that, except for “the late, great Abraham Lincoln,” he could easily act “more presidential” than any president in history. Just the day before, however, Trump demonstrated how utterly, odiously unpresidential he truly is.
[….he continues with hard hitting points….]
horsey’s conclusion:
….He treats the White House like a branch of the family business. In the style of a Mafia don, he expects Cabinet officials and lawmakers to put loyalty to him above respect for the law and the Constitution. His tweets and most of his unscripted public statements are undignified, untutored and frequently unhinged.
Trump is a cruel clown and a cunning con man. He is no Boy Scout.
The problem with trying to figure out Trump’s motives is that he is irrational. While he may occasionally do things that seem rational in context, it’s random, and therefore unpredictable. Better to look at those around him who, while supportive, are themselves rational. Jared, for instance, with his carefully crafted statements. His primary motive is to keep himself out of the federal penitentiary. The most likely route for him to the pen would be perjury or lying to Congress. The more wordsmithing that goes into his statements, the worse it looks for his father-in-law, who, after all, has the most to lose.
just heard that john McCain blasted trump on his transgender ban tweet
The Donald Trump–Russia dossier is a private intelligence dossier that was written by Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 intelligence officer. It contains unverified allegations of misconduct and collusion between Donald Trump and his campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 U.S. presidential election and the period preceding the election. The contents of the dossier were publicly reported on January 10, 2017.[1]
The dossier primarily discusses possible Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The media and the intelligence community have stressed that accusations in the dossier have not been verified. Most experts have treated the dossier with caution, but in February, it was reported that some details related to conversations between foreign nationals had been independently corroborated, giving U.S. intelligence and law enforcement greater confidence in some aspects of the dossier as investigations continued. Trump himself has denounced the report, calling it “fake news” and “phony.”
The dossier was produced as part of opposition research during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The research was initially funded by Republicans who did not want Trump to be the Republican Party nominee for president. After Trump won the primaries, a Democratic client took over the funding; and, following Trump’s election, Steele continued working on the report pro bono and passed on the information to British and American intelligence services.
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See also: Business projects of Donald Trump in Russia
The 35-page dossier supposedly shows that Russia is in possession of damaging or embarrassing information about Trump which could be used for purposes of blackmail to get Trump to cooperate with the Russian government.[2] The material includes allegations about Trump’s sexual and financial dealings in Russia.[3] The dossier further alleges that Trump has been cultivated and supported by Russia for at least five years, with Putin’s endorsement, with the overall aim of creating divisions between Western alliances; that Trump has extensive ties to Russia; and that there had been multiple contacts between Russian officials and people working for Trump during the campaign.[2][4]
The report alleged that the Russian government had cultivated Trump for years:
The report further alleged that there were multiple in-person meetings between Russian government officials and individuals established as working for Trump.[6][7] The former intelligence officer continued to share information with the FBI, and said in October 2016 that “there was or is a pretty substantial inquiry going on.”[5]
History
Dr. Dean…the 50 state stratergery…the best
I hope PG chokes on something soon
Shelley More Capitulation
Trump is destroying this country from the inside-out, as if that was his directive from Putin- guess what? Probably is.
time:
Trump Announces Transgender Military Ban on Anniversary of Truman Ordering Equality in Armed Services
When President Donald Trump said Wednesday that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the armed forces “in any capacity,” observers quickly noted that the tweeted announcement came exactly 69 years to the day after President Harry Truman signed an executive order that would lead to the desegregation of the military.
The need for such an action, declared Truman’s July 26, 1948, order, could be traced to the idea that “it is essential that there be maintained in the armed services of the United States the highest standards of democracy, with equality of treatment and opportunity for all those who serve in our country’s defense.”
The order — which came after growing advocacy from African-American leaders and civil-rights groups — also established the creation of the President’s Committee on Equality of Treatment and Opportunity in the Armed Services. The committee was tasked with carrying out the order, which demanded “equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion or national origin.”
[….article continues….]
I get up every morning and pray (something new) that PG drops dead — I know it’s a blot on my milk bottle but I’ll take the risk
Hopefully, Democrats learned that “transgender rights” (a ridiculous concept) is a really stupid hill on which to die, especially since Trump just picked that one for good reason.
Bink
Are you saying transgender people have no civil rights?
I’m already suspicious of your definition of human rights
San Francisco is thinking of naming the airport after Harvey Milk I wonder if that means PG would refuse to fly there.(Not that Harvey was transgender but that his definition of human rights and civil rights included the transgender population
Transgender people have civil rights because they are people, not because they are “transgender”.
Your suspicion is derived from your misunderstanding of what a “right” is, not from mine.
McCain’s response: “The president’s tweet this morning regarding transgender Americans in the military is yet another example of why major policy announcement should not be made via Twitter.” McCain went on to say the statement was “unclear” and that “there is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train and deploy to leave the military — regardless of their gender identity.”
Lindsey Graham echoed McCain’s criticism that “we shouldn’t make policy by tweets.” He added that the Senate should have the Department of Defense “over for a hearing” to discuss the policy changes, saying he wants to hear from the military directly.
In ‘merica anyone who is not white and male have had to establish their _______ rights. Bink, I wish that ‘merica recognized rights as you do.
KC, Shelly Moore Capitulation. I’m stealing that. I have a ton of friends who would RFLTAO at that one.
We may be having a semantic argument but I don’t think so.
I’m pretty sure I understand both the concept and legal issues in this country regarding human rights.
Pogo
My pleasure.
I heard a reporter from the LA Times who said she has never seen norms violated this way in the legislative process.
McCain should be respected and thanked for his military service and sacrifice but as a politician and civic leader he should be shunned,
Access to affrodable health-care isn’t a human-right, but should be an imperative for any advanced civilization that can achieve it, as civilization should exist to serve its inhabitants, not the other way around, in my opinion.
Caveman goes to the doctor. He says, “Doctor, it hurts when I do this”.
Doctor says, “what the fuck is a ‘doctor’?”, and clubs him in the head.
What is a human right? We know one thing you think is not.
Life, liberty, and sure, throw in that 3rd one.
This is all beside the point. Our President is a criminal puppet of corrupt Russian oligarchs, and is intentionally undermining our democracy and the security of our nation at their directive. Eyes on the ball.
whatever
bink, united we stand divided we fall? yep, these little twit tweet diversions are helping to divide, helping to change the subject, helping to stir and restir up internecine disgruntlements, and are surely (as planned) keeping our eyes off the ball.
a little reminder from the dark ages
I see keep your eye on the ball…no matter what it rolls over
Perhaps a reminder of what happens when united means throwing some people off the bus instead of standing up for their rights as human beings is in order.
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Our President is a criminal puppet of corrupt Russian oligarchs, and is intentionally undermining our democracy and the security of our nation at their directive. – Bink
Seriously, this should be “pinned” before every Post until the threat is gone (if it ever is. This is political, moral kudzu. We have been compromised.)
*******
Btw, To Serve Man was a cookbook.
I love Katherine Graham Cracker because under that tough shell is a big heart & an even bigger conscience. She truly, honestly cares. Beautiful legacy to have.
SJ…..is kudzu in NY too? I thought it was a southern thing……
I’m just a simple caveman…..I don’t know about your big city ways…..
That Niemöller sure was a survivor!
Hi Sturgeone – we have all sorts of vines that defy anything man can do to destroy it. Maybe that’s good in a way 😉 I sympathize with our Southern friends though. I’ve seen the pictures of anything & everything swallowed up by the long green monsters.
Read a great biography of Charles Addams. Someone asked him his religion; he replied “I believe in Mother Nature.” So do I.
where’s Trump’s viagra ban? Military spends 10 times on erectile dysfunction as on transgender health care:
https://thinkprogress.org/amp/p/5a4f3b38e445
Three caveman were sitting out in front of the cave, when a black horse ran by.
About a year later, the caveman on the left says, “Did y’all see that white horse run by?”
Two and a half years later, the one on the right says, “It wasn’t black, it was white.”
Couple years go by and the one in the middle gets up and starts walking off down the hill.
“Where you going? the one on the left says.
“Well if there’s just going to be this constant bickering, Im leaving.”
The only caveman joke I know.
Martin Niemoller (1892-1984)
Eventually time came for him, apparently.
Definitely a blast from the past, patd. Haven’t heard that one in ages.
In caveman culture, the Drummer was King. Until some wise-ass strung up his bow one night at the drum circle and started plucking on it.
“Now, that’s progress,” said the bass man.
Sarah press briefing on Trump’s Sessions bashing: “You can be disappointed in someone but still want them to continue to do their job.” Walking it back?
Sarah doesn’t know what happens to transgenders now in military and “I don’t have anything else to add.”
Thanks
I don’t know what caused Clinton to lose it looks like the perfect storm of bad political news. I do know that a minority view is controlling America one that fears the future and would return to the 1850’s if they could.
I do know that to give in to the cheap politics of hitting vulnerable populations to stay in power is unacceptable and to say – you are expendable for the moment wink wink will not do.
United in my view is united against all threats to every citizen’s rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and to not have those pursuits defined by anyone else. (and medical care too)
When goat milk, goat cheese, and goat meat become as popular as 2%, kraft slices, and hamburger, the kudzu problem will be reversed.
GO GOATS !
It’s no coincidence that this very politically-savvy move of creating a discussion that divides the opposition and bolsters the base comes at a time when Trump and his incestuous cabal have hired new communications agents, Scaramucci, for instance.
These are Goebbels-level Machiavellian propagandists with no moral compass and a gift to manipulate. BEWARE of more of this shit, it’s going to be a deluge.
Oh, thanks for the laugh, sturge.
Why should this divide people? I see no division I see this as more bolstering his base the stupid fat people of Ohio
I think people should be focused on the issues not the scandals because the media and Mueller are dealing with those issues and the rest of us are just contributing hot air
It was a real Mexican stand off at the Drum Circle that night….the drummers, of course, all had their clubs and had him clearly outnumbered, but the new bass player had a quiver of arrows on his back.
He can’t get ALL of us, the drummers thought, but no one wanted to be the two or three he COULD get.
And thus it was the birth of the arms race, out of the spirit of music.
I agree with both Ms Cracker and Mr Bink. I think that the Dem Party should take its stand on 1. political corruption, 2. workers’ and pensions rights and protections, 3. equal health care for all (all means women, too, mr pussypincher), and 4. tax code reform, and 5. voting reform.
6. Mercury in baby’s drinking water/birth defects/’spontaneous abortions’ and 7. Guns for Maniacs could also be big selling points for Dems. Hitting repubs on their pro-death votes, after two years of being AWOL on abortions, could cut as much as 1/3 of repubs voters and contributions – especially in the precinct & ward level work.
Using GLBT and immigrant rights as big Dem selling points has been quite unproductive, because only 10 % of the voters are GLBT, and 0% of the voters are immigrants. It isn’t that we Dems shouldn’t defend the rights of GLBT or immigrants, we should absolutely, but that these are not compelling selling points for the general public before the election campaigns.
I agree with x-r. not suggesting it should be the main campaign issue or arguments just that it is a march backwards that cannot go unaddressed
KC, don’t forget the stoopid fat people of WV. SFB’s strongest support is in WV – he’s got 60% approval here (which is frankly lower than I thought it would be).
Poobah, anyone ask SHS about the military Viagra budget?
KC, a march backwards? Hell, the ship of state is in full reverse.
BTW, sturge, you crack me up.
WaPo sez:
Don’t embrace the content but could back it anyway? How cynical is that?
They’re having a very hard time of it – I assume it’s because there are repug senators who actually give a shit – about keeping their seats, that is.
Skinny repeal my ass. The question in my mind is whether repealing the mandates can be done through reconciliation or whether they’ll need 60 votes to get it through the Senate.
for the Senate GOP’s health care fiasco:
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” — Groucho Marx
A turdle perhaps ?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/brooks-%e2%80%98swamp-critter%e2%80%99-mcconnell-should-be-replaced/ar-AAoS2nD?ocid=spartanntp
xr, indeed, they are pro-death for the born and only pro-life for the unborn.
altho’ to be fair (and unbalanced) they may look at themselves as being pro-life/choice giving the fetus that eventually becomes a child a choice….several choices… starve, asphyxiate in dirty air, dehydrate from lack of potable water, be ignorant of solutions due to poor or no education, and if they live long enough be denied social security/Medicaid — or be born rich
THIS is what the repug gay community thinks?
Gay, OK, trans, it’s negotiable?
“Using GLBT and immigrant rights as big Dem selling points has been quite unproductive, because only 10 % of the voters are GLBT”
I disagree with that. I support the rights of homosexual people to build and live a peaceful life and function in society with the person of their own choosing without facing repercussions for it. I reject the assertion that a physically-healthy human-being must, or should, submit themselves to a lifetime of dependence on a corrupt subset of the for-profit medical community to live a fulfilling life.
Transgenderism is an oppressive ideology that helps perpetuate the subjugation of women, and I believe espousal of it is contrary of what liberalism should be: respecting and supporting people, regardless of who they are, not encouraging them to be something they are not.
That said, an in context of Trump’s diversion tactic, today, excluding a person with necessary or valuable skill-sets from service, for no other reason than their own identity issues, is just dumb.
bink, your eyes just left the ball
Watching this Senate GOP health care fiasco like feral cats racing across a busy parking lot. They can’t find an exit.
excerpt from slate
“Trump Can’t Kill the Russia Investigation
Even if he fires Sessions and Mueller, the case will go on”
Let’s just say Mueller gets fired. Then what? What happens? What happens to this investigation? That’s what I’m trying to understand. Does it go back to the FBI?
It’s already in the hands of the FBI. The FBI has a major counterintelligence case that is now more than a year old involving who, if any, American citizens acted in concert with the Kremlin to commit acts of espionage, obstruction of justice, interference with the federal election process and other crimes including conceivably, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and a whole litany of other federal crimes.
Now there would be a firestorm if Trump moved through extralegal processes, and I cannot underscore that enough, OK, because he the president has to find a willing co-conspirator in a furtherance of obstruction of justice somewhere in the bowels of the Justice Department, and I just don’t think he can do it.
You really don’t think it can happen?
I think Bobby Mueller is bulletproof, Isaac. But let’s posit that he’s bulletproof and Trump finds someone who will dig up kryptonite. The FBI needs a confirmed director. Christopher Wray is an honorable man, and Christopher Wray will pursue both a counterintelligence and a criminal investigation of the case that will proceed along the lines that Mueller is proceeding.
So you are saying that even if he does fire him, he will not make practical progress in impeding the investigation?
Donald Trump will then, having previously shot himself in one foot by admitting on national television that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation, will then have unholstered his other gun and shot himself in the other foot by working to fire Bobby Mueller, to further obstruct the Russia investigation. It would be suicidal because the FBI will continue to do its work.
Bink is a radical feminist
“bink, your eyes just left the ball” -patd
Trump sold you out to the Russians because he doesn’t care about you or America.
Looks like North Korea will have an ICBM before Republicans have a health care plan.
Tomorrow’s Trump tweet: “After consultation with a pinch of lint in my navel I am banning everything Obama ever did. Done deal!
Bink – I have no idea what this means:
From my experience as a transgender woman (male to female) I cannot think of any “subjugation”. What I can remember is not being seated in a restaurant. I know that there is a 50/50 split of male to female and female to male. How do you classify those of us who served in the military in combat units? How about those of us who are in a police job?
I do have no idea what “transgenderism” is.
Okay I do.
I take it as a derogatory phrase.
If you do not believe there are transgender people – say so. But to use such a nasty phrase is beneath Trail Mix.
I associate myself with blue bronc’s 6:11 PM remarks. Bink, I don’t think you meant to dig this hole, perhaps best to climb out if it. I’ve crawled out of a few myself on these pages. No shame in that.
You always take the easy way out, Craig.
No, I won’t censor myself, solely because you asked. If you disagree, then counter my argument- or don’t.
ok Bink, if your arguments on this issue made sense to me I’d try to counter.
Seth Stephens-Davidowitz was just on The Beat with Ari Melber about his book Everybody Lies about what Google searches can tell us about ourselves. One of the more interesting claims that he used to substantiate his prediction that Trump would win, is that racists voted for Trump. Unfortunately they took a whole lot of decent people with them.
Trying to understand Bink
Are you saying that having transgender surgery is just another lifestyle choice
and not a good one?
I think that having the courage to make that change can only be inspired by the fully realized understanding of who you really are.
Sick burn, boss.
Edit- “made sense TO ME”… ok, fair enough.
I don’t understand what you’re suggesting Bink. What is the ideology associated with transgenderism that you think helps perpetuate the subjugation of women? I may be missing your point entirely, but I suggest that respecting and supporting people, regardless of who they are is exactly what liberalism is about from a social standpoint. I don’t believe that accepting the decisions of people whose sexual identity is at odds with their anatomy to undergo transition to bring the two in line is encouraging them to be something they are not. If that is espousing transgenderism, I don’t see that as subjugating women, but as I said, I may be missing your point.
Bink: “Sick burn, boss”
What does that mean?
If you intend to be a chat bully we’ve dealt with that before.
Yeah, so maybe next time put some thought into platform tenets, and you won’t have to wonder why you lose elections, coast to coast, every cycle, to the worst sorts of people.
Inevitably Blue Bronc was going to comment on this, and with equal certainty her comments were going to be spot on.
“Sick burn” is ironic colloquialism that implies an insult was not effective. I read your 6:45 to be dismissive of my assertions, without any justification, and responded in a manner I thought appropriate. Re-reading your dismissal, I observed the words “to me”, and considered that your refusal to counter my argument was done so in good-faith. Was I wrong?
I still don’t understand what you’re talking about, Bink
Mr Bink, I know next to nothing about what transgender people experience, or how they process those experiences.
What I think I know, comes from hearing interviews with Christine Jorgenson and the posts by Blue Bronc. My conclusion is that transgender people are as human as I am, and as deserving of legal protections as I am. (And, I am damned well deserving of legal protections !)
However, my point the 3:46pm post was about marketing Democrats’ values and ultimately Democrats’ candidates. Dems should appeal to the vast majority of voters, for whom GLBT rights are not in the forefront of their minds and emotions.
I stand by my earlier statements and feel them to be concise. If you don’t want to make any effort to gain a broader understanding of the topic, that’s not a fault of mine.
Best definition of transgenderism I
could find.
A state or condition in which a person’s identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional ideas of male or female gender.
Doesn’t sound like an ideology to me.
War is peace. Ignorance is strength. Freedom is slavery.
Bink, you’ve left an impression of bigoted views above. I still don’t think you meant that, wish you’d clarify.
Just wondering when Melanoma is going to launch her anti-cyber bullying campaign
Noregard wants to know
Ms Pat,
The rippers don’t give a damn about embryos or foeti. That is proven by their monolithic support for corporate dumping of abortifacient elements and chemicals into sources for the water, and the soils and air, that pregnant women drink from, eat from, and breath. In the event that the mercury, cadmium, lead, arsenic, and the fluoride & chloride compounds, don’t kill embryos and foeti in utero, they often cause brain damage and birth defects.
Who can claim to be anti-abortion, when he supports the corporate villains who cause un-wanted abortions ? Who can be for brain damage and birth defects ? Dem have a political nuke in this issue, and it’s time for them to use it.
Ms Cracker,
You are a riot ! Thanks.
From the Army son: There is only one color – Green. There is only one sex – Soldier
Work out the details among yourselves.
XR one of the other things that came up in the book referenced above regarding people will lie to pollsters, but they don’t lie to Google.
If you overlay geography where the question “How do you cause a miscarriage?” over a map, it comes from places where abortion is most limited. Match that info to reported pregnancies & reported births and you have the likelihood of a whole lot of illegal abortions.
Bink,
Are you deliberately making statements to show how easy it is to cause dissension & re-direct people’s thoughts from one topic to another, a la #45 saying/tweeting outrageous stuff to take the spotlight off of the Russia probe? Your earlier comments about keeping your eye on the ball make me wonder if we are the lab rats in your experiment.
“There is only one color- Green”
Jamie ,
Thanks for sharing that. Trump has played the lowest and most disgusting form of identity politics. He has singled out a group of people whom to the best of my knowledge, do nothing more than get up every morning and do the best they can in whatever way they can.
The fact that they may represent a small portion of the population should in no way lessen our outrage over this or our willingness to defend their rights with as much passion and vigor as we would any other segment of our population so targeted.
I’m not that smart or conniving, Sj.
Sam Brownback’s new job. Kansan’s are grateful and all religions other than Christianity are scared silly.
No one in the Administration has explained, defended or substantively commented about Trump’s hate speech against transgenders in service.
Taxpayers to pay $3 billion in incentives for Trump photo-op today announcing factory in Paul Ryan’s Wisconsin district:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-26/trump-to-announce-apple-supplier-foxconn-opening-wisconsin-plant
Trump has lost fight against Sessions. His twitter account all that’s left of his presidency.
Trump Voters.
“We don’t need no stinking explanations!”
Very important that first-use nuclear attack orders must be cleared with NSC, Defense Secy, Joint Chiefs. Congress needs to look into this.
I subscribe to Mr Crawford’s views as expressed at 7:45 pm. I accept Mr Bink’s proposition that transgender people deserve equal rights because they are human. And, the inet, indeed writing, does not convey nuances well. So, an explanation of the ‘ism’ Mr Bink touched upon could be helpful.
Trump claimed he consulted with his generals for banning transgenders in service. None have been named, none have come forward.
Apparently those generals Trump says he consulted about banning transgenders are on his son”s video games. None in real life identified.
“I reject the assertion that a physically-healthy human-being must, or should, submit themselves to a lifetime of dependence on a corrupt subset of the for-profit medical community to live a fulfilling life.”
bink, as I understand current data, not all transfolk opt for medical intervention. some just get new haircuts, change wardrobes and adopt new lifestyle habits.
no matter what the condition, there are always snakeoil purveyors in the medical industry ready to milk the needy.