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Repeal It, You Own It
When the GOP repeals Obamacare, unhappiness with health care becomes their fault. No more blaming Democrats. Good luck with that.
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Physicians for a National Health Program is a non-profit research and education organization of 20,000 physicians, medical students and health professionals who support single-payer national health insurance.
like the salvation army, hope these folks today are working the opium dens, gin mills and dark alleys of critterville to convince some of the derelicts there to turn away from the evils of their big insurance/pharma dollar addiction and come to jesus, so to speak, and vote in universal health care.
below excerpt from gallup polling in late October 2016:
Mixed Opinions on Role of Federal Government in Healthcare
Americans are essentially split when asked if it is the responsibility of the federal government to ensure that all Americans have healthcare coverage — 51% say that it is, while 47% say that it is not. These attitudes have shifted over time. In the years before Barack Obama became president, a large majority at times said it was the government’s responsibility.
Another Gallup question shows that, given a choice, Americans prefer a privately run healthcare system to one run by the government, by 55% to 41%.
These attitudes are not necessarily contradictory. Under the current Affordable Care Act, the government can mandate that all Americans have healthcare coverage, even if that coverage is provided by a private insurance system. Still, taken together, these results show that the American public is, in a general sense, not predisposed to the idea of the federal government running healthcare.
First Candidate in the 2020 Presidential Primary: Ladies & Gentleman, Andrew Cuomo.
Wondering if his alliance with Senator Sanders isn’t as much a shared interest in free education as a test whether an old school Party Machine Pol can capture any of the New Wave Voters. Who exactly is behind this …… ?
really really like Physicians for a National Health Program… but then what do they know being they’re just experts in the health care field. another bunch of snooty elites 🙂
and how about all those intelligence agency experts… again, what do they know just cause that’s their job. also elitists, huh. here’s one of their leaders on pbs newshour last night
How will the GOP own the deaths, bankruptcies and miscellaneous devastation that will result in the repeal of Obamacare without an immediate replacement?
The party that cried “Benghazi!!!” for years, branded Hillary a killer, over the deaths of four Americans in foreign service, will absolutely revel in being branded killers of untold Americans at home. No? They won’t like that? Too bad. That’s the way it will go down
“Make America Sick Again.” About sums up the Benghazi Sold My Soul Choir.
The GOP is in the enviable (or more accurately, unenviable) position of controlling the 2 political branches of government – in other words, they will have no one to blame but themselves for anything they make happen.
The OCE debacle is just a foreshadowing of the messes they are capable of getting themselves into. I suspect they will up the ante substantially going forward, and I also suspect it will be at the expense of the interests of the American people.
‘they will have no one to blame but themselves for anything they make happen”
pogo, surely you jest. they blame Obama for causing Iraq and the resulting great recession both of which he inherited from them. just watch them continue to blame harry reid and Hillary for everything they don’t get done and all the weird stuff the twit wroughts.
cnn: Trump, Palin break with GOP, warm up to Assange
President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday used comments from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to continue raising questions about the allegation that Russian hackers attempted to influence American politics — a charge the US intelligence community and the Obama administration has defended with increasing vigor.
Trump tweeted Wednesday morning, hours after the broadcast of an interview Assange gave Fox News’ Sean Hannity, to blame Democrats for not having tighter cybersecurity.
“Somebody hacked the DNC but why did they not have ‘hacking defense’ like the RNC has and why have they not responded to the terrible things they did and said (like giving the questions to the debate to H). A total double standard! Media, as usual, gave them a pass.”
[….]
The DNC responded to Trump’s message Wednesday, saying the President-elect is ” is putting his own insecurities ahead of national security because he is sensitive about how he won.”
“It’s nothing short of terrifying that Trump has chosen to take the word of an enemy of our country over the word of 17 United States intelligence agencies including the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA,” Adrienne Watson, DNC national press secretary, said in a statement. “Trump is jeopardizing America’s future with his fear of offending Vladimir Putin.”
[….]
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — an early Trump supporter — responded to Assange’s interview with an apology and a reversal.
Palin lavished praise on Assange in a Facebook post after watching Assange on Fox. She wrote that Podesta’s emails contained “important information that finally opened people’s eyes to democrat candidates and operatives” and which “would not have been exposed were it not for Julian Assange.”
“I apologize for condemning Assange when he published my infamous (and proven noncontroversial, relatively boring) emails years ago,” she wrote.
Palin had previously been a strident critic of Assange and WikiLeaks: The site had published some of Palin’s personal emails in 2008, which were hacked while she was a candidate for vice president, and Palin accused Assange of endangering US military personnel by publishing a raft of State Department cables containing highly sensitive information.
In a 2010 Facebook post, she had written, “Assange is not a ‘journalist,’ any more than the ‘editor’ of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a ‘journalist.’ He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands.”
A former Pentagon and CIA spokesman on Wednesday slammed Trump for giving credit to Assange, warning that he thought America will be less safe when the President-elect takes office later this month.
“Let’s stare this reality square in the face: PEOTUS is pro-Putin and believes Julian Assange over the @CIA. On Jan. 20 we will be less safe,” tweeted George Little, who served under former President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama.
pogo & poobah, rant (per craig’s cnn link) seems to agree with you all: Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, wrote in an op-ed Tuesday that lawmakers shouldn’t vote on repealing Obamacare until a replacement plan was developed. “If Congress fails to vote on a replacement at the same time as repeal, the repealers risk assuming the blame for the continued unraveling of Obamacare. For mark my words, Obamacare will continue to unravel and wreak havoc for years to come,” he wrote.
patd, Obama and Hillary will be alternating between drinking margaritas and getting well paid for speeches. The pugns might try to blame them for conditions that exist in the economy and foreign affairs, but they can’t hide behind Dems – any Dems – for the laws they pass and budgets they propose to address those conditions. They’ll have to own whatever they do because short of a filibuster, Washington is theirs now, so they are almost exclusively in charge of governing – something they have proved incapable of. Hope they enjoy it.
Rant might seem to agree with me on the point that a repeal of the ACA without a replacement to provide insurance to those who will lose theirs upon repeal will prove to be a disaster. He points his finger in the wrong direction re: the unraveling – it is squarely in the hands of the blood sucking insurers who back out of the exchanges and the pugn governors and legislatures who don’t extend coverage through the medicaid expansion available to them. I hope they all get smallpox.
If it’s not repealed the penalties for not participating remain in place, which is idiotic if there isn’t insurance available and the subsidies aren’t funded. If it’s not replaced with something that is worth a damn, we’re back to the deplorable state of having 1/6 of our population uninsured – which is somewhere between heartless and stupid.
bid, the ” insurers bailing on ACA” can’t really bail (unless they stop being insurance companies) from it’s better parts like covering pre-conditions, allowing kids up to 26 be under parents policies, not charging women more than men, encouraging wellness treatment, doing away with caps on coverage etc. these things were reforms applicable to entire industry. some reforms also applied to physicians, hospitals etc to improve care, record keeping etc.
if the gopers repeal flatout, do you think the insurance industry will continue any of these positives?
The first week of every new year brings a slew of eye-opening technology for gadget lovers at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, and the 2017 edition will open Thursday.
The exhibition provided a preview on Tuesday, which revealed that this year’s show will concentrate on the growing use of artificial intelligence in consumer devices.
Published on Jan 3, 2017
It’s the 50th year for the world’s biggest tech show. Here are the trends that everyone is focused on.
So I guess if you’re good enough at bald face lying the stupidest among the GOP (like palin & trump) will fall all over themselves to kiss your criminal ass! How nice for you, Julian, you’re playing your cards just right.
Mrdoodlesdog: I love the “make America sick again” and I will have to meme it at some point 😀 Truth is, with or without ACA repeal, America became sick on 11/9…I hope it’s not terminal 😮
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WA) addressed the surge of support among Republicans for Julian Assange, calling the WikiLeaks founder a “sycophant for Russia.”
“He leaks, he steals data and compromises national security,” Ryan said on Wednesday’s “Hugh Hewitt Show.”
Physicians for a National Health Program is a non-profit research and education organization of 20,000 physicians, medical students and health professionals who support single-payer national health insurance.
Click here to learn more!
like the salvation army, hope these folks today are working the opium dens, gin mills and dark alleys of critterville to convince some of the derelicts there to turn away from the evils of their big insurance/pharma dollar addiction and come to jesus, so to speak, and vote in universal health care.
harry Truman‘s
Special Message to the Congress Recommending a Comprehensive Health Program
November 19, 1945
2014 pbs newshour story on Truman’s proposal
above chart was by gallup reported in may 2016
below excerpt from gallup polling in late October 2016:
Mixed Opinions on Role of Federal Government in Healthcare
Americans are essentially split when asked if it is the responsibility of the federal government to ensure that all Americans have healthcare coverage — 51% say that it is, while 47% say that it is not. These attitudes have shifted over time. In the years before Barack Obama became president, a large majority at times said it was the government’s responsibility.
Another Gallup question shows that, given a choice, Americans prefer a privately run healthcare system to one run by the government, by 55% to 41%.
These attitudes are not necessarily contradictory. Under the current Affordable Care Act, the government can mandate that all Americans have healthcare coverage, even if that coverage is provided by a private insurance system. Still, taken together, these results show that the American public is, in a general sense, not predisposed to the idea of the federal government running healthcare.
First Candidate in the 2020 Presidential Primary: Ladies & Gentleman, Andrew Cuomo.
Wondering if his alliance with Senator Sanders isn’t as much a shared interest in free education as a test whether an old school Party Machine Pol can capture any of the New Wave Voters. Who exactly is behind this …… ?
Felix, meet Oscar.
If the ACA had come to be under a white President would we be debating it today?
really really like Physicians for a National Health Program… but then what do they know being they’re just experts in the health care field. another bunch of snooty elites 🙂
and how about all those intelligence agency experts… again, what do they know just cause that’s their job. also elitists, huh. here’s one of their leaders on pbs newshour last night
For some reason thinking about Jody Powell: “When it rains in Washington, the Press blames it on the President.”
Wishing President Obama all the best. His heart is in the right place.
How will the GOP own the deaths, bankruptcies and miscellaneous devastation that will result in the repeal of Obamacare without an immediate replacement?
The party that cried “Benghazi!!!” for years, branded Hillary a killer, over the deaths of four Americans in foreign service, will absolutely revel in being branded killers of untold Americans at home. No? They won’t like that? Too bad. That’s the way it will go down
“Make America Sick Again.” About sums up the Benghazi Sold My Soul Choir.
The GOP is in the enviable (or more accurately, unenviable) position of controlling the 2 political branches of government – in other words, they will have no one to blame but themselves for anything they make happen.
The OCE debacle is just a foreshadowing of the messes they are capable of getting themselves into. I suspect they will up the ante substantially going forward, and I also suspect it will be at the expense of the interests of the American people.
I love this
“Make America Sick Again.” About sums up the Benghazi Sold My Soul Choir” Mr Doodlesdog
‘they will have no one to blame but themselves for anything they make happen”
pogo, surely you jest. they blame Obama for causing Iraq and the resulting great recession both of which he inherited from them. just watch them continue to blame harry reid and Hillary for everything they don’t get done and all the weird stuff the twit wroughts.
guess it’s too late for recess appointments to all those fed judgeships… too bad, there goes more of our world as we knew it.
“Make America Sick Again.”
doodle, a slogan of the year already, t-shirt worthy
cnn: Trump, Palin break with GOP, warm up to Assange
President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday used comments from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to continue raising questions about the allegation that Russian hackers attempted to influence American politics — a charge the US intelligence community and the Obama administration has defended with increasing vigor.
Trump tweeted Wednesday morning, hours after the broadcast of an interview Assange gave Fox News’ Sean Hannity, to blame Democrats for not having tighter cybersecurity.
“Somebody hacked the DNC but why did they not have ‘hacking defense’ like the RNC has and why have they not responded to the terrible things they did and said (like giving the questions to the debate to H). A total double standard! Media, as usual, gave them a pass.”
[….]
The DNC responded to Trump’s message Wednesday, saying the President-elect is ” is putting his own insecurities ahead of national security because he is sensitive about how he won.”
“It’s nothing short of terrifying that Trump has chosen to take the word of an enemy of our country over the word of 17 United States intelligence agencies including the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA,” Adrienne Watson, DNC national press secretary, said in a statement. “Trump is jeopardizing America’s future with his fear of offending Vladimir Putin.”
[….]
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — an early Trump supporter — responded to Assange’s interview with an apology and a reversal.
Palin lavished praise on Assange in a Facebook post after watching Assange on Fox. She wrote that Podesta’s emails contained “important information that finally opened people’s eyes to democrat candidates and operatives” and which “would not have been exposed were it not for Julian Assange.”
“I apologize for condemning Assange when he published my infamous (and proven noncontroversial, relatively boring) emails years ago,” she wrote.
Palin had previously been a strident critic of Assange and WikiLeaks: The site had published some of Palin’s personal emails in 2008, which were hacked while she was a candidate for vice president, and Palin accused Assange of endangering US military personnel by publishing a raft of State Department cables containing highly sensitive information.
In a 2010 Facebook post, she had written, “Assange is not a ‘journalist,’ any more than the ‘editor’ of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a ‘journalist.’ He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands.”
A former Pentagon and CIA spokesman on Wednesday slammed Trump for giving credit to Assange, warning that he thought America will be less safe when the President-elect takes office later this month.
“Let’s stare this reality square in the face: PEOTUS is pro-Putin and believes Julian Assange over the @CIA. On Jan. 20 we will be less safe,” tweeted George Little, who served under former President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama.
CNN: President Barack Obama delivered a mandate to Democrats on Wednesday: “Don’t rescue” Republicans on Obamacare.
usatoday: Trump sides with WikiLeaks’ Assange, on Russia hacking
do ya think he’s fishing for a deal here? any bets on how soon the twit makes doj drop the extradition on Julian?
abc: Fugitive Assange Backs Trump in Questioning Russia’s Election Hacking Role
pogo & poobah, rant (per craig’s cnn link) seems to agree with you all:
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, wrote in an op-ed Tuesday that lawmakers shouldn’t vote on repealing Obamacare until a replacement plan was developed.
“If Congress fails to vote on a replacement at the same time as repeal, the repealers risk assuming the blame for the continued unraveling of Obamacare. For mark my words, Obamacare will continue to unravel and wreak havoc for years to come,” he wrote.
patd, Obama and Hillary will be alternating between drinking margaritas and getting well paid for speeches. The pugns might try to blame them for conditions that exist in the economy and foreign affairs, but they can’t hide behind Dems – any Dems – for the laws they pass and budgets they propose to address those conditions. They’ll have to own whatever they do because short of a filibuster, Washington is theirs now, so they are almost exclusively in charge of governing – something they have proved incapable of. Hope they enjoy it.
Rant might seem to agree with me on the point that a repeal of the ACA without a replacement to provide insurance to those who will lose theirs upon repeal will prove to be a disaster. He points his finger in the wrong direction re: the unraveling – it is squarely in the hands of the blood sucking insurers who back out of the exchanges and the pugn governors and legislatures who don’t extend coverage through the medicaid expansion available to them. I hope they all get smallpox.
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@JohnFugelsang
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Gee…. I thought Obamacare was all Bill Clinton’s fault….
How Obama Would Fix Obamacare If Congress Would Let Him
patD- Amen! to your first post!
With so many major insurers bailing on ACA, does Obamacare need to be repealed? It seems to be dying on its own.
https://youtu.be/J2FzTE65h4M
If it’s not repealed the penalties for not participating remain in place, which is idiotic if there isn’t insurance available and the subsidies aren’t funded. If it’s not replaced with something that is worth a damn, we’re back to the deplorable state of having 1/6 of our population uninsured – which is somewhere between heartless and stupid.
bid, the ” insurers bailing on ACA” can’t really bail (unless they stop being insurance companies) from it’s better parts like covering pre-conditions, allowing kids up to 26 be under parents policies, not charging women more than men, encouraging wellness treatment, doing away with caps on coverage etc. these things were reforms applicable to entire industry. some reforms also applied to physicians, hospitals etc to improve care, record keeping etc.
if the gopers repeal flatout, do you think the insurance industry will continue any of these positives?
from upi:
The first week of every new year brings a slew of eye-opening technology for gadget lovers at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, and the 2017 edition will open Thursday.
The exhibition provided a preview on Tuesday, which revealed that this year’s show will concentrate on the growing use of artificial intelligence in consumer devices.
Published on Jan 3, 2017
It’s the 50th year for the world’s biggest tech show. Here are the trends that everyone is focused on.
Watch more CES 2017 exclusives: http://bit.ly/2hPmFRh
Rep. Alan Grayson on the Republican health care plan
bbronc, wasn’t that when he famously said about their plan: “Don’t Get Sick! And if You Do Get Sick, Die Quickly!” ?
Patd – yes. That is the one. But the entire speech is stronger.
patD – There’s no money in sick people for insurance companies. UHC, for instance, has decided not to put a policy in the exchange.
Insurance, like the stock market, is nothing more than glorified gambling, and, each relies on the other.
So I guess if you’re good enough at bald face lying the stupidest among the GOP (like palin & trump) will fall all over themselves to kiss your criminal ass! How nice for you, Julian, you’re playing your cards just right.
Mrdoodlesdog: I love the “make America sick again” and I will have to meme it at some point 😀 Truth is, with or without ACA repeal, America became sick on 11/9…I hope it’s not terminal 😮
https://youtu.be/BLPFCIbuZtE
from rawstory:
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WA) addressed the surge of support among Republicans for Julian Assange, calling the WikiLeaks founder a “sycophant for Russia.”
“He leaks, he steals data and compromises national security,” Ryan said on Wednesday’s “Hugh Hewitt Show.”