We already saw more than a hint recently in Virginia that suburban women are not allergic to voting for Democrats, probably tipping the governor’s mansion away from Republicans.
If that had something to do with disgust for Trump, his endorsement of Roy Moore might just be sweet news for Democrats in the 2018 midterms. Especially if Moore wins and the GOP is forced to accept him. Hard to imagine the party of Trump/Moore bridging the gender gap.
[Cross-posted via HuffPost]
caption contest entry for above flotus & son of blotus
“is strange wh custom for thanksgiving: kill tree not turkey”
sturge, you said about al yesterday “he’ll be a little less humorous in the future” is an example of something he wrote in his book and talked about in interviews like this one with cbsnews:
Franken recalled his harrowing entry into national politics in the 2008 race for a Minnesota seat in the U.S. Senate. His opponent, incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman, “weaponized [his] humor,” putting every joke he told through the “de-humorizer,” as Franken called it. Coleman “stripped” every bit of context and irony out of his jokes, Franken said, but in that race, the former “Saturday Night Live” star managed to eke out a hard-fought victory of merely 312 votes.
Even though he won, the race caused him to re-examine his approach to politics.
“Basically because my career as a comedian and comedy writer had been used against me so effectively, I said, ‘Well I have to not be funny for the first 20 years in the Senate,'” Franken said over poached eggs and a coffee.
“It turned out, it only was six. And then I won re-election by a very comfortable margin,” he said. “So I let myself be a little funny.”
excerpt from wapo’s President Trump and accusations of sexual misconduct: The complete list
Here’s a list of 13 women who have publicly come forward with claims that Trump had physically touched them inappropriately in some way, and the witnesses they provided. We did not include claims that were made only through Facebook posts or other social media, or in lawsuits that subsequently were withdrawn.
We also did not include the accounts of former beauty contestants who say Trump walked in on them when they were half nude because there were no allegations of touching. Trump had bragged on the Howard Stern show of his “inspections” during the pageants: “You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
I read that in Al’s book about the de-humorizer,,,,,it reminded me of Lenny Bruce telling about the time during one or another of his obscenity trials where they had a policeman in the witness chair reading Lenny’s act in court.
From Lenny’s act, after the trial:
Judge: You mean he said “blah-blah-blah”?
Cop: That’s right, your honor, he said “blah-blah-blah”.
lenny noticed that the cops and judge were getting off on saying the naughty word, saying it over and over in court………(the word was actually c++ksucker, by the way) and that the act was not at all funny when read by a cop.
“getting off on saying the naughty word, saying it over and over”
sturge, we are seeing the same thing with self-righteous pols and pundits savoring the salacious de tails of today’s scandals. showing and chewing over the more delicious bits more for their own pleasure than to inform the public of these terrible sins.
rubin makes sense in her wapo op ed: If Charlie Rose and Roy Moore deserve banishment, why not Donald Trump?
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The severity of the offense(s) and the need to protect the integrity of institutions (the press, the Congress, the presidency) should warrant permanent banishment for repeated actions of unwelcome physical conduct, even as we understand morally that some actions are worse than others. Congress is entitled to and should have a higher standard than Hollywood or even a run-of-the-mill workplace where an offending employee might be docked pay, demoted or suspended rather than dismissed. We still hold out hope that the White House should be held to at least that standard.
We should in other words have a zero tolerance for any sexual harassment or abuse but a graduated scale for doling out punishment. So far in Hollywood and the media, the accused generally have paid a steep price, in some cases suffering a career-ending moment when the accumulated accusations are too gross and too credible to ignore.
Inside the Beltway the precedent has yet to be set in stone. President Bill Clinton was impeached (and his law license taken away) while Trump has so far gotten away with blanket denials and smears of his accusers……
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lizzie’s sensible response re al et alia
another sensible statement via the hill: Ex-RNC chair: Trump’s comments on Roy Moore ‘beyond stupid’
A former chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC) said Wednesday that President Trump’s comments dismissing GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore’s accusers were “beyond stupid” and that he doesn’t care about his own party.
“This is beyond stupid. And there’s irreparable harm that’s being done to this party and to this country. Someone needs to take control here and it’s certainly not the president,” Michael Steele told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews.
Trump appeared to throw his support behind Moore on Wednesday, pointing to Moore’s denial of the sexual assault allegations against him and the need for a Republican to take the seat over a liberal Democrat.
Steele said Trump and former White House strategist Stephen Bannon “don’t give a damn” about the women who have accused Moore or the Republican party itself.
“That’s what’s so sickening about what the president did today. And every self-respecting Republican needs to stand up and say ‘enough, you cannot side with Roy Moore on this,” Steele said, saying that the nine women who have accused Moore are “credible.”
Alabama pols should stay in Ala they don’t do well on the national stage because they are hypocrites
supported by bloated blonde haters
Roy Moore is a lose lose for the goopers
This day has significance beyond the very strange actions of SFB this morning. It is important to note the the big moron has not, and most likely will not, say anything about the assassination of President Kennedy.
BB, he’ll probably make a crack about JFK’s mistresses
craig, which reminds me, we haven’t heard much in that line about the 3 kennedy men and their alleged dalliances. have they attained such sainthood that they are out of bounds or is it respecting they’re not here to defend themselves.
I’d want Moore to win election to the Senate even if he wasn’t a sexual predator (which he is) because of the nutty stuff he says. Things like… Putin is right about gays and they belong in concentration camps… or… there are some U.S. communities under Sharia Law… and… well, you get the picture.
I want him to continue to say such stuff and say it often and loudly. Come on Alabama… you can do it… give the Dems an early Xmas gift!
Caption Contest…. ” Hey look, Mom, the huuugest and bestest Christmas tree ever!”
but but, renee, wouldn’t his win embolden and empower that element even more? the brown shirts started out small, were sneered and laughed at, but with each horrible act unchecked they took over an entire country. it can happen here.
The mystery over the attack on Rand Paul deepens
daily beast: Republican Women in Alabama Begin to Turn on Roy Moore
ANNISTON, Alabama—B.L. Shirley is a Republican woman from a Republican county who always—always—votes Republican. And yet, on a windy, grey morning last weekend, the Talladega, Alabama, retiree found herself in, of all places, a Democrat’s campaign office, wondering just what she could do to defeat the GOP candidate running for a seat in the U.S. Senate from her state.
“Roy Moore,” she said, when asked why she would go canvassing for Democrat Doug Jones before the special election on Dec. 12. “I think Roy Moore is an impostor. I am a Christian and I don’t want to be counted in his camp. He’s a divisive person.”
If Jones is to pull off a victory, it will be because women like Shirley knocked on doors, called neighbors, and worked to convince otherwise skeptical voters that his opponent is fundamentally unfit for the office he’s seeking. A few weeks ago, that seemed like a tall order. As the election nears, it no longer appears quite so improbable.
Allegations that Moore routinely pursued teenage girls and in some cases assaulted them when he was a single man in his thirties have caused Republican voters in Alabama to reassess their options. Some have decided to rally around the nominee. But others have recoiled, leaving Moore in real risk of losing his attempt to take over the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
More than any other group, it is the women of Alabama, specifically Republican women, who will be the divisive voting bloc.
Women like Walton Foster.
A Republican and a Christian, Foster voted for Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL) in the special election primary and said she plans to cast her ballot for Jones in the general. She considers Roy Moore “an abomination.”
“Our historically Republican-leaning suburb is covered with Doug Jones signs. I have seen one for Roy Moore,” said Foster, a mother of two teenage boys who lives in a suburb of Birmingham. “He is more about his personal agenda and less about what is good for the state of Alabama. He does not seem interested in working with anyone. He has refused to debate and defend his positions publicly. When you add the nine accusations—nine!—it is clear he is unfit for office.”
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I bet those good Christian ladies voted for the twit even though the same arguments can be said about him…. puzzling isn’t it?
I think the last Kennedy generation or two has been raked over the coals, plus they are dead. I do not remember anything salacious about the millennial Kennedy’s though. The republicans have the Clintons to attack, and they are alive, so there is little need to go to far back in history.
I’ll say, Jones 48 – moore 46 – Other or none 6
Dems can still beat rippers over the head with moore in ’18 without having to seat that lying pervert in the Senate. A 49-51 Senate is better in the Senate than a 48 – 52 Senate, just in case a senator of either party gets sick or dies.
’bout time for some comeuppance her way
reuters: Former U.S. ethics official files complaint against Trump aide Conway
The former head of a U.S. government ethics watchdog said on Wednesday he had filed a complaint claiming senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway violated a law barring executive branch employees from engaging in political activity when she spoke on television against a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate.
Conway, in an interview on Fox News Channel on Monday, railed against Doug Jones, the Democratic candidate in the Dec. 12 special election for an Alabama seat in the U.S. Senate.
“Doug Jones in Alabama? Folks, don’t be fooled. He’ll be a vote against tax cuts,” Conway said. Jones’s Republican rival, Roy Moore, has been accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.
Walter Shaub, who stepped down as director of the Office of Government Ethics in July, said in a Twitter post: “I have filed a complaint with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, which investigates Hatch Act violations.”
The 1939 Hatch Act prohibits federal employees from using their official authority to influence an election.
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Judge, he said blah blah blah
I was a real comedian freak…. I got off on all of them……the radio comedians, the TV comedians, the movie ones, all of them…..when I discovered lenny it was a real game changer…..it was before he died in 66, when he’d written that paperback, HOW TO TALK DIRTY AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE…..I got it right off what he was trying to say……,:just like Hank Williams he died right after I’d found him.
But carlin and Pryor picked up the slack
I think they ought to make cigarettes a foot long…….
Whatever your opinion of Richard Nixon, this letter demonstrates the decency that was once possible between political opponents.
Also shows the incredible ignorance of the current WH occupant.
Another New Orleans gentleman with a cringey song…….worked with him one time….gentleman all the way
Ernie K-Doe……. New Orleans acting like N Augusta, SC
Jamie – there is a fine book about Nixon and Kennedy, I can’t find it right now. They were companions in Congress, it was the first election that set them apart. But, according to the writer, the letter was an authentic and deeply felt reaction of Nixon to the murder.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/22/37-of-38-economists-said-the-gop-tax-plans-would-grow-the-debt-the-38th-misread-the-question/
Not sure it would make a great caption, but did you ever see a child looking more unhappy at the sight of a beautiful Christmas tree?
Happy Thanksgiving everyone in case I’m unavailable tomorrow!
OK here’s a caption for melonoma:
They don’t really expect me to decorate that thing do they?
you win Granny
She can decorate with trump wife #1’s jewelry
A Jones win will energize us Dems. Like piranhas sensing a steer stopping to drink from the river, we’re going to eat steak in ’18.
granny, kudos for both the observation and the caption. spot on.