When Do We Invade Poland?

Tough to top the Drudge Report’s banner headlines on Trump’s Hate Festival last night at Madison Square Garden.

UVA’s Larry Sabato: “I love historical documentaries. I’m currently watching one about the 1939 pro-Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. Oh wait, it’s a live Trump rally! My bad.”

Tim Walz compares Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally to 1939 pro-Nazi event. “Don’t think for one second that he doesn’t know exactly what they’re doing there”– The Hill

Geraldo Rivera: “Fuck these racists. Latino men of good will, have pride in yourselves and your ancestors. A vote for Trump is a vote against self-respect.”

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  2. the ‘toonists are tuning in on the real story

     

    Attribution: Fateful Election Day by Patrick Chappatte, The Boston Globe

  4. pogo, sorry but powers that be won’t post oliver’s show until later in the week but here’s rolling stone’s recap 

    Will Ferrell Proposes New Song for U.S. Naturalization Ceremonies

    When someone becomes a citizen of the United States, their naturalization ceremony traditionally features a rendition of Lee Greenwood‘s “God Bless the USA.” On the latest episode of Last Week Tonight, Will Ferrell showcased a potential replacement for Greenwood’s tune.
    John Oliver spoke about Greenwood’s legacy, poking fun at the conservative country singer’s many career missteps. He then argued against Greenwood’s song being played at the naturalization ceremonies, like his own. “I am intimately familiar with the U.S. immigration process, having finally become a citizen in 2019,” Oliver said. “It was a long, stressful process capped by a moving naturalization ceremony.”
    He added, “While Lee Greenwood has repeatedly claimed his song is apolitical, he definitely isn’t… Honestly, I’m not sure why it’s being played at ceremonies at all? Not just contractually or even musically, but because Greenwood’s past remarks about immigrants have been, to say the least, off-message.”
    Instead, Oliver proposed a new song, noting that people being naturalized deserve something that is “genuinely unique to this country.”
    “A song that celebrates the nation you Americans are about to join and the process that they’ve been through, also while not soft-pedaling some hard truths about it,” he said. “And the good news is, I think we actually have the perfect song, and it’s performed by an actual American treasure. Not only will we not charge the government $700 a year for it — we’re not assholes. We’ll actually pay them $700 a year.”
    […]
    Joined by a choir, cheerleaders, a marching band, Ferrell then brings the song to a big climax, complete with the Statue of Liberty, a massive American flag, and fireworks. “Fellow Americans,” he wails. “Welcome home.” He also quips, “Holy shit, I just remembered the coup.” Watch here.
    Elsewhere on the late-night show, Oliver took aim at Donald Trump‘s recent PR visit to McDonalds, which has also been grappling with an outbreak of E. coli. “An E. coli outbreak was tied to McDonald’s but was still somehow the second most revolting thing inside of one this week,” Oliver said, showing a photo of Trump pictured at the fast food chain’s drive-through. 

  8. From El País (Spain) about Dumbass’ MSG rally – “Rally de Comedia Racista.” Anyone need this translated?
     

  11. Old Berman on the Wash Post. and LA Times

    “It’s the Times. For more than half a century, this has been true about whoever has run the LA Times. They could f up a two car funeral.
     
    As to the Post, what? Bezos kills the routine nobody but Trump would have even noticed post-endorsement of Harris? Then Trump immediately gets to meet with Bezos’ rocket company?
     
    Coincidence, no doubt. I have mentioned it many times, always in praise of Bezos, that he resisted the attempt to blackmail him into throwing the Post towards Trump when they tried to blackmail him over Lauren Sanchez while he was still married. See, now I’m a pretty devious guy, at least in thought.
     
    Seldom indeed. I’m kind of ashamed of that. But I have to confess, what did not occur to me was, what would happen if Trump’s cronies were still blackmailing Jeff Bezos?
     
    Are still blackmailing Jeff Bezos? Well, he’d, he’d bury a Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris, wouldn’t he?”
     
    From Countdown with Keith Olbermann: TRUMP ‘COMEDIAN’ AT TRUMP RALLY: PUERTO RICO IS “GARBAGE” – 10.28.24, Oct 28, 2024
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/id1633301179?i=1000674658689
     

  12. on granpappy friederich and maybe why they didn’t want to own up to being german.

    from a 2016 story in the guardian:

    A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.
    Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.
    Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: “Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.”
    The decree orders the “American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump” to leave the area “at the very latest on 1 May … or else expect to be deported”. Bild called the archive find an “unspectacular piece of paper”, that had nevertheless “changed world history”.
    Trump was born in Kallstadt, now in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate, in 1869. He emigrated to the US aged 16 initially to escape poverty, attracted by the gold rush.
    He quickly turned his attention to catering for the masses of other gold hunters in Alaska, later allegedly running a brothel for them, and there made his fortune. He habitually sent the gold nuggets with which his customers regularly paid for their food to his sisters who had already emigrated to New York and had started trading in property.
    Returning on a visit to Kallstadt in 1901, Trump fell in love with Elisabeth Christ, whom he married a year later, returning with her to the US. But when she became homesick and wanted to return to Germany, the authorities blocked his attempts to settle there.
    In an effort to overturn the royal decree dated 27 February 1905, Trump wrote an obsequious letter appealing to Prince Regent Luitpold, addressing him as “the much-loved, noble, wise and righteous sovereign and sublime ruler”.
    But the prince rejected the appeal and the Trumps left Germany for New York with their daughter on the Hapag steamship Pennsylvania on 1 July 1905. Elisabeth was three months pregnant with Donald Trump’s father, Fred.
    Residents of Kallstadt, a small wine-growing town of about 1,200 people in south-west Germany, joke that the blame for Trump becoming US president-elect lies with the German authorities who threw his grandfather out. They have so far shown little enthusiasm for claiming the businessman turned politician as their own.

  13. Y’see….his paper didn’t just NOT endorse Harris…… when his paper was ABOUT TO endorse Harris….,.,he called them up and told them DONT DO IT.  
    Now don’t that smell like a two days dead mackerel shining in the moonlight?  people don’t just do things for no reason   
     

  14. As a reluctant yet studious observer of Trump’s rally speeches for more than a year I’m always listening for anything new. Last night there was some scary new stuff on his obsession with revenge against “enemies within”.

    Trump expanded his already loose definition of foes that has long included journalists, political opponents and protesters. Last night he added an “amorphous” group of people that control the government through “vessels.”

    “We’re running against something far bigger than Joe or Kamala, and far more powerful than them. It is a massive, vicious, crooked radical-left machine that runs today’s Democrat party. They’re just vessels for this amorphous group of people.”

    The vagueness is intentional. He is setting up retaliation against anyone who displeases him.

  15. does he even know the meaning of the word “amorphous” and did he have to be rehearsed on pronouncing it?  sounds like the speech is another one of stephen miller’s beauties. 

  16. Patd

    Have to agree about Trump and “amorphous”.  More and more, he seems to be entering a madness phase whose terror is being fed by others.  He spouts memorized or garbled repetitions with little consistency or sense.  

  17. Will this performance be Halloween-scary enough to overcome so-called conservatives’ time-tested, deeply ingrained loathing of “evil democrats?” Horrific as the Trump show is, I still don’t see it changing their minds based on what I know to be the beliefs of maggers I know. Three or more wrongs will make a right, especially when the wrongs are against their enemies, so they think. After all, do unto others what they have done unto us. 
     
    Perhaps I’m too jaded? 

  18. https://newrepublic.com/post/187591/donald-trump-embraces-nazi-madison-square-garden

    “Speaking before thousands at “The World’s Most Famous Arena,” Trump’s guests leaned into the white nationalist “great replacement theory,” donned Nazi-adjacent iconography, and aggressively defined the idea of who is—and who is not—an American.”
     
    “Tech billionaire Elon Musk also attended the Manhattan event, wearing a full black getup that he described as “dark, gothic MAGA.” But critics noticed something strange on the front of Musk’s hat. Instead of using the normal font seen on Trump’s red “Make America Great Again” caps, Musk opted for something decidedly more Germanic: the Fraktur font, popularized during the early years of the Nazi regime.”
     
     

  19. Geraldo Rivera

    MSG is a legendary arena memorable for many historic occasions. Now it will be remembered as the place Donald Trump lost his bid for reelection. It was one hate speech too many.

    10:28 AM · Oct 28, 2024

  20. They are gonna need all of the sage to smudge the hate vibes out of MSG. 

    Wouldn’t it be delicious if the great unvaccinated in that building yesterday ended up being too sick to vote.   

    ps – Haven’t heard a peep about the n@zi rally in non-cable TV this morning.  I’m sure The View will be on top of it, but this needs to get to folks not looking for the info.

  24. You have to study history in order to not repeat it, but sometimes they can’t help themselves. 

  27. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

    “On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker. The Bund billed the event, which took place two days before George Washington’s Birthday, as a pro-“Americanism” rally; the stage at the event featured a huge Washington portrait with swastikas on each side.”

    Orange Adolf had Elon’s hat to test-market their new Nazi branding.

    Ivy – Melania had another payday.

    ps – Crazed hyena, Elon, seems like he’s dosed with something at every fascist rally.

    pps – Hope any POC and women at MSG yesterday finally woke up to the fact that they are being used, and that tRUMPsky hates them.

  28. I might have bought the BS if Dumbass and Bezos’ Blue Origin execs hadn’t met for a few chuckles at Blue Origin roughly coincident with the announcement.

  29. Gotta find out which goon hired that “comic”.   That’s funny.   Did he audition?  Did they ok his act? 
    I haven’t used this one in a long time, (if ever, even……)

     but ROFLMAO

    As far as I can recall this is the first time the gop has ever had a comedian on the show. I bet he’s a riot down at the comedy clubs.

  30. So the stock market is predicting a democratic win? BTW my IRA is currently up over 25% Whistling “Happy times are here again”
    Jack

    The greater the stock market’s year-to-date return going into the presidential election, the greater the chances the incumbent party will win. Consider:

    In all years in which the Dow’s year-to-date gain as of Oct. 15 was greater than 10% — like this year, with the Dow up 13.4% as of Oct. 15 — the incumbent party won 78% of the time.
    When the year-to-date gain was positive but below 10%, the incumbent party won 60% of the time.
    When the Dow in mid-October was sitting on a year-to-date loss, the incumbent party’s chances of winning fell to 42%.

    For the full read.

  34. Did they ok his act?

    Completely by design. Regular Magas are in the bag to stay, cannot be moved, but they still need extra-excitation to get the extreme-extremists to do their extremiest extreming. Plus Gramps thinks it’s funny.

  35. Sturg – They had a ~comedian~ say those horrible things to give them some cover, but he was doing a JKNK.  

    Pogo – If any quid pro quo can be proved, are they all in trouble when tRUMPsky loses?  Promises of a government contract to kill a story/endorsement is kinda like hush money.

  36. “It looks like any kind of Boy Scout camp or Girl Scout camp,” author Arnie Bernstein told American Experience. “But these were Nazi camps in America.”

    “The camps were owned and operated by the German American Bund, a pro-Nazi organization formed by U.S. citizens of German descent in the years leading up to World War II. With scores of chapters and thousands of members across the country, the Bund promulgated an antisemitic, isolationist agenda that sought to establish Nazi ideology in the new homeland.”

    Watch “Nazi Town, USA,” about the German American Bund, on your PBS station’s website.
     

  37. There was nothing at that rally that wasn’t Trump campaign approved. Face it folks it is worse than you thought (and your thoughts were bad enough), the Republican party has been taken over by that 40% of America that  from time to tike rears its ugly head. It is not the first time and won’t be the last. The good news is we are aware of them now in a way we weren’t in 2016. In 2016 they said the ugly parts in quiet and used code words. Now they say it out loud.
    True there are a portion of people who through ill placed tribal loyalties will vote Republican  but I think that number is dwindling. (I hope) But there are still enough of them, that along with  the nativist bigots they can still make this election close. Don’t worry, they are going to fall short.
    Jack

  38. Why do I get the feeling that Trumps father was at that rally in 1939. It would explain Trumps beliefs about Germany during that time. He learned them as a child listening to his fathers rants.
    Jack

  40. The touching reunion of Hades and Persephone although a couple times her real face poked through.

  41. Youtube offered this McErrin video, that is fun. Some things are hard wired into us some good things, (the pentatonic scale) some bad things too. But we do have options. We may sing the song in the pentatonic scale but we can name the tune. The same can be said about the fear of those not in our tribe. We can go down the path of racism or we can go down the path of inclusion. One thing I learned as I came into contact with peoples from all over the world is we all have things in common. We all want roofs over our heads, food in our bellies, our families to be safe and our futures to be secure. For the most part all the other stuff can be negotiated. 
    But first it each individual’s choice.
    Jack

  43. JD’s claims that by “the enemy within,” Adolf didn’t mean American citizens was blown to hell yesterday. Adolf said “the other side” are “the enemy within.”
     
    How many of the grandfathers of those hateful morons at yesterday’s rally were fighting Nazis or Italian fascists?  They brought shame upon their family by being there.  

    As for any actual Christians still following Orange Adolf, they need to ask themselves WWJD?

  44. I was on amazon a couple of weeks ago looking for a flag. At my new house I have a flag pole out front, I fly the American flag and below itI fly a themed flag. It may be about the holiday or a season flag. My only Democratic themed flag was my “Joe” from 2020, a bit dated now.  So I typed in my search query and got a few Democratic themed flags and then as I scrolled down everything turned to Trump/Republican.  It made it look like the world was dominated by Maga Republicans. This was the Amazon algo, do they do the same thing with their Wapo algo.
    Anymore every search you do is curated by some machine algorithm, nothing is random. We depend on an honest search engine but do we get one or even a close version? More and more I feel I don’t. Maybe I’m paranoid, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me
    Jack 

  47. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/28/texas-voter-registration-issues/
    “As Texas refuses online voter registration, paper applications get lost”
    “Texas is one of only eight states without universally available online voter registration. Most people in the state have to fill out a paper form, whether they are registering through an election office or while getting a new driver’s license or state ID at the Texas Department of Public Safety. Only people who already have a Texas driver’s license and are engaging in an online transaction with DPS, such as renewing their license or updating their address, can use a DPS online portal to register.”
    “The Texas Secretary of State’s office told Votebeat that offering online registration to all voters would require legislative action. State lawmakers have for years resisted efforts to do so.”
     
    Texas Republicans know they can’t win without prohibiting votes aka without cheating. 
     

  49. a MAGA hat in a German font?  Yeah, that’s pretty obvious.  Not surprised a white South African is ultra-racist
     
    Is that an accent or a speech-impediment he slips in and out of?

    This fucker ain’t American and doesn’t know our red lines- deport him

    Those Pennsylvanian hills are filled with young men who died fighting the Nazis, PA magas should be ashamed of themselves

    Musk family arrival in the USA and the end of Apartheid in South Africa eerily coincidental on the timeline

  50. More Nazi-era history lessons for our reading pleasure.

    Ninety years ago, as American reporter Dorothy Thompson ate breakfast at her hotel in Berlin on August 25, 1934, a young man from Hitler’s secret police, the Gestapo, “politely handed me a letter and requested a signed receipt.” She thought nothing of it, she said, “But what a surprise was in store for me!” The letter informed her that, “in light of your numerous anti-German publications,” she was being expelled from Germany…
    Suggesting her expulsion was because of her old article disparaging Hitler, in her own article about her expulsion she noted: “My offense was to think that Hitler is just an ordinary man, after all. That is a crime against the reigning cult in Germany, which says Mr. Hitler is a Messiah sent by God to save the German people…. To question this mystic mission is so heinous that, if you are a German, you can be sent to jail. I, fortunately, am an American, so I merely was sent to Paris. Worse things can happen….” 

    https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-21-2024?r=18v4x9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true
     

  51. J Doofus is holding a rally 3 minutes down the road from where I work tomorrow. I get out of work at 3:00. His rally is at 3:30. The Holland airport is directly across the street from where I work.

  53. Ya going, Corey? I’m sure it will be a rollicking good time (if you can wade through the bullshit).

  56. Plumpty is pumping more shit into the swamp. It’s your bank and retirement accounts he plans to drain. 

  57. I am keeping a close eye on Pennsylvania and I am scared.  We must defeat Trump there. That’s the money shot.  Anybody tells you Michigan and Wisconsin are decided, tell them to pay closer attention.  I think Wisconsin is gone but we will win Michigan. But it’s up to those voters.  This is nerve-wracking to the max.

  59. Work on the Post getting rid of Bezos not the reporters.

    But I can’t endorse the calls to cancel The Post. Boycotting the newspaper won’t hurt Bezos, whose fortune comes not from Post subscribers but from Amazon Prime members and Whole Foods shoppers. His ownership and subsidization of The Post is just pocket change to him. And if readers want to strike a blow for democracy, they’d achieve more by knocking on doors and making calls for Harris for the next eight days. But boycotting The Post willhurt my colleagues and me. Welost $77 million last year, which required a(nother) round of staff cuts through buyouts. The more cancellations there are, the more jobs will be lost, and the less good journalism there will be.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/27/quit-cancel-washington-post/

  61. The full Milbank:

    On Thursday night, at the Pulitzer Prize Awards Ceremony in New York, my Post colleagues were feted for winning top honors in three categories. A series, assembled by more than 75 Post journalists on the AR-15’s singular capacity to kill, won for national reporting. And on the editorial side, The Post had a double win: In the commentary category, Vladimir Kara-Murza, writing from prison in Russia, won for his columns demanding democracy in his country; in the editorial writing category, David E. Hoffman won for his series on the “Annals of Autocracy” and the global battle for democracy. Yet the next day, my colleagues and I were deluged with emails and messages from readers on social media. Many said they love our work but are canceling their subscriptions. Still others demanded that we all quit:
    “Your lack of resignation is a silent endorsement of Donald Trump for President.” 
    “The Washington Post has gone from All The President’s Men to All The Dictator’s Lapdogs.” “This paper can never be trusted to bring truth to power.”
    “Without resigning you are basically endorsing Hitler.”
    A Facebook friend of my wife’s, in an overwrought message, said that those who keep their Post subscriptions are like Neville Chamberlain appeasing Nazis and that we (Nazi) Post journalists should be put out of work like “coal miners who lose their income when polluting mines close.”
    What happened between Thursday night and Friday afternoon, of course, was the Post’s non-endorsement in the presidential race. As The Post reported, owner Jeff Bezos, in effect, directed the newspaper not to publish its endorsement of Kamala Harris. I get the anger, and I share it. I helped organize the statement Post columnists published calling Bezos’s action “an abandonment of the fundamental editorial convictions of the newspaper that we love.” Most of my colleagues, I’m sure, agree with our revered former editor, Marty Baron, who called the decision “cowardice, with democracy as its casualty.” It’s certainly the owner’s prerogative to adopt a general no-endorsement policy, and it might well have been reasonable if it had been done outside of the political cycle (such endorsements long ago stopped swaying voters), but coming 11 days before the election, it gave the appearance of cowering before a wannabe dictator to protect Bezos’s business interests — particularly because Donald Trump met with executives from Bezos’s aerospace company, Blue Origin, the same day. But I can’t endorse the calls to cancel The Post. Boycotting the newspaper won’t hurt Bezos, whose fortune comes not from Post subscribers but from Amazon Prime members and Whole Foods shoppers. His ownership and subsidization of The Post is just pocket change to him. And if readers want to strike a blow for democracy, they’d achieve more by knocking on doors and making calls for Harris for the next eight days. But boycotting The Post will hurt my colleagues and me. We lost $77 million last year, which required a(nother) round of staff cuts through buyouts. The more cancellations there are, the more jobs will be lost, and the less good journalism there will be.
    If Trump wins next week, the institutions of our democracy will be under threat like never before. Newspapers and other media outlets have been decimated as our business model collapsed, and disinformation has filled the vacuum. Trump has made clear he will come after us in a second term: “They’re so nasty. They’re so evil. They are actually the enemy of the people,” he said Saturday. There are noble efforts underway to build nonprofit journalism models to replace corporate ownership, but these are not yet at a scale where they can substitute for existing media. This is why I’m not quitting The Post. Those of us working in the news business for the last quarter century know what it’s like to “watch the things you gave your life to, broken/ And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools,” as Kipling put it. For all its flaws, The Post is still one of the strongest voices for preserving our democratic freedoms.
    Of course, if Friday’s non-endorsement announcement is followed by other demands from our owner that we bend the knee to Trump, that’s a different matter. If this turns out to be the beginning of a crackdown on our journalistic integrity — if journalists are ordered to pull their punches, called off sensitive stories or fired for doing their jobs — my colleagues and I will be leading the calls for Post readers to cancel their subscriptions, and we’ll be resigning en masse. But except for the endorsement debacle, Bezos hasn’t interfered in The Post’s journalism in such a way. The newspaper has expanded significantly since he bought it in 2013 and won 18 Pulitzer Prizes, including for its coverage of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, its exposure of Trump’s phony charitable work, revelations about secret surveillanceat the National Security Agency and lapses at the Secret Service, and its reporting on police shootings, poverty, abortion, racial justice and climate change. Just two weeks ago, The Post won two Loeb Awards, the top prize in business journalism, including for my colleagues Heather Long and Sergio Peçanha’s editorials on post-pandemic revival of America’s downtowns. All three finalists in the commentary category were from The Post.
    Compared to them, I’m just a hack who keeps howling into the wind about MAGA attacks on our democratic norms. But for the past nine years, I’ve been labeling Trump a racist and a fascist, adding more evidence each week — and not once have I been stifled. I’ve never even met nor spoken to Bezos.
    The moment I’m told I can no longer report the truth will be the moment to find other work. Until then, I’ll keep writing. I hope you’ll keep reading.

  62. The billionaires will be fine regardless of the results so of course they will attempt to gain the favor of a guy who expressly said (to the oil industry specifically but everyone knows it’s broadly applicable) that he is for sale

    The guy literally said he’d sell the energy policy of the United States for one billion dollars. Out loud. On camera.

  63. My ballot has been counted. Colorado is so efficient. 

    Strangely, I feel an urge to suit up and get in line. Product of 20 years of habit formed by Alabama voting lines on Election Day.

  65. There are disenfranchised voters; destroyed ballots; MAGAt-manufactured chaos still exists with DeJoy at USPS.  What happens if this can’t be untangled?  Can Biden remain in office and fix things, knowing SCOTUS has exempted him, as POTUS?   Just wondering how all of the things tRUMPsky has put in place could bite him in the backside. 

  66. i may have watched too much classic Doctor Who lately, anyway, this is the best scene in the entire series

    i’m guessing this scene inspired “Game of Thrones”

  67. …looks like Tony Hinchcliffe is so stupid(‘low-IQ, as they like to say) that he didn’t realize headlining a political rally puts him in the mix, and the “just a comedian telling jokes” rationalization doesn’t fly
     
    He’s this generation’s “racist comedian” whether he likes it or not

    it was a very savvy, and very cynical, decision to have a comedian make racist jokes because the purpose of racist humor is to create an atmosphere of permissiveness for racism

    Make it Backfire, Vote Harris/Walz 2024 🇺🇸

  68. It’s at some machinery equipment center. Probably outdoors in their parking lot. They seem quite proud to be holding a rally there.

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