It could be Trump’s verbal shot at a singer yesterday that ultimately affects the presidential campaign more than a thwarted assassination. Before the golf course incident that’s what was upsetting his own supporters on Sunday.
Influential Republican Ari Fleischer, a former White House press secretary and longtime Trump defender, was disgusted: “I hate this message. It’s pointless. Trump isn’t running against a singer. He is running against a San Fran dangerous liberal. He should keep his sights on the target.”
Similar responses showed up in the comments section of Trump’s Truth Social account:
Kudos to NBC for keeping their eye on the ball.
NBC’s Lester Holt: “Today’s apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance continue to make baseless claims about Haitian immigrants” in Springfield, Ohio, resulting in bomb threats. — Video.. https://x.com/CurtisHouck/status/1835449928136462361https://x.com/CurtisHouck/status/1835449928136462361om/CurtisHouck/status/1835449928136462361
Josh Hawley: “Evil is after him”
C’mon, such pious biblical rhetoric wasn’t invoked when nutjobs twice in a month tried to assassinate then-President Gerald Ford.
The would-be assassin’s online posts reveal he was clearly a nut. Lots of countries have lot of nuts. The difference is ours has nuts with easy access to assault rifles.
from huffpo: on another story in today’s news
something different but at least minimally pertinent to the thread topic: cartoonists speak as well as draw about taylor and trump. this was produced last december so it’s somewhat dated:
Brilliant political cartoonists Jeff Koterba, Rick McKee, Taylor Jones and Daryl Cagle join nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, Jase Graves for a fun and lively discussion on@caglecast #34 as we discuss the unlikely cartoon duo of Trump and Taylor Swift. Discover the amazing connections between these two and how they are influencing the political landscape through fantastic cartoons!
Harris-Walz Campaign Responds to Trump’s “I Hate Taylor Swift” Comments With Singer’s Song Lyrics (msn.com)
This guy can have an assault rifle and threaten a former president???
MAN WITH GUN BARRICADES SELF INSIDE BUSINESS
Greensboro News & Record (Dec 16, 2002)
An armed man was arrested Monday morning after barricading himself in a business during a three-hour standoff, police said.
Ryan Routh, 36, was arrested without incident at 1 a.m. Monday at United Roofing, 1735 W. Lee St., Greensboro police said.Routh was pulled over about 10 p.m. Sunday during a traffic stop, police said. But he put his hand on a firearm and drove to United Roofing, where he remained barricaded inside, police said.
Routh was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a weapon of mass destruction, referring to a fully automatic machine gun. He was also charged with resisting, delaying and obstructing a law enforcement officer and driving while license revoked.
https://greensboro.com/man-with-gun-barricades-self-inside-business/article_3006b4f9-9370-5b08-a54e-46c87faf6cbe.html
I’m looking for substantiation but this was the Google answer to a question about when Haitian immigrants started coming to Springfield.
now remind me, who was president in 2018 and oversaw US immigration then 🤔
Springfield Daily News:
I wonder how Dumbass is going to like Vance hanging this lodestone around his neck.
Oh, and… also from SDN:
What party was in the presidency in 1990 and a signed off on that policy? In fairness, both houses of Congress in 1990 were controlled by Democrats. But wait, no pathway to citizenship? So no voting?
It only took a couple hours yesterday for Trump to monetize the situation.
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Unfortunately, the assassination attempt is eating up vital campaign air time. Right when Kampala needs to be front and center, it’s all Trump top of the block.
That will pass, Jamie. B or even C block story by tomorrow
All the crazy Mump shit since 2015, but oh geez, attacking Taylor Swift is off the rails?
All those people need to go wait in the truck.
Springfield, Ohio is “dry run” for sending in Chump’s Thugs to disrupt voting. Violence is their only chance.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/id1633301179
This is JD Vance totally endorsing the elements of Project 2025. No way out, Vance, you can run, but you can’t hide.
https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1835503541135261879
Have you seen Melanoma speaking about how
they are trying to kill her husband and the govt is covering up because the real plotters are Dems
she ‘s writing a book.
Oh my…….
KGC……I’ve seen some of that…..it’ll make you laugh; it’ll make you cry; it’ll make you wanna throw up…….
They promised her: No actual thinking or writing.
Please, merciful God in heaven, let her write a song.
The maggers hear about that tweet and think….Hey…ain’t that kinda like crazy?
today’s meme…
It actually seems really dangerous for tRUMPsky to tweet that about Swift because some of his more rabid incels might be inspired to try something…and then they would discover she has a better security detail than their leader.
Orange Adolf revoked mental health checks for gun buyers. Karma. (Maybe Biden reinstated?)
Democrats could come up with some sort of gun bill and name it for Adolf, maybe taking a line from Loomer’s post; The Gun Safety Act To Protect President tRUMP At All Costs…and then see if MAGAt Republicans will kill it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/more-bomb-threats-hit-springfield-ohio-after-trump-elevates-false-claims-about-haitians
“Two hospitals in Springfield, Ohio, were sent into lockdown after bomb threats, police said on Saturday, marking the fourth such case in as many days that appears linked to false claims circulating among the far right that Haitian immigrants there are eating domestic pets and wildlife.”
“On Friday, a Springfield woman, Erika Lee, apologized for rumors about Haitian immigrants eating pets that resulted from a post she wrote on Facebook claiming that the friend of a neighbor’s daughter lost her cat – and then found the animal strung up outside the home of a Haitian family. Lee now says she had no firsthand knowledge of the claim. The neighbor referenced in the post, Kimberly Newton, revealed that she also had heard the story from an acquaintance and not her daughter.”
“Separately, an explanation for a viral photo of a man carrying two geese in Columbus, Ohio, has been made, although it also helped set off the now-discredited rumors about pet-eating in nearby Springfield. The Ohio state division of wildlife told TMZ that the man had been picking up the two geese that had been hit by a car. The agency also reported that there was no evidence that the man was Haitian, an immigrant or that he intended to eat the geese.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/15/jd-vance-create-stories-migrants-eating-pets/75236975007/
“JD Vance says he does not regret spreading baseless rumors of migrants eating pets”
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people then that’s what I’m going to do,” Vance told CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday.
So, the threats and lockdowns didn’t start until JD started spewing lies. Is he libel for inciting hate crimes?
Loada horseshit. SS and local SD did the right things, nobody was hurt, and the only injury to DF was that he couldn’t even finish the front 9. Move on.
And here’s hoping the Harris campaign rides hard and loud the JDouche admission that he admits he’ll just make it up if he thinks the news media isn’t paying sufficient attention to the lies DF spews about “illegals”, facts and statistics be damned.
Not sure whether DF’s post potential assassination attempt fundraising sounds more like Mussolini or the Wizard of Oz. (BYW. No one has ever been killed in a potential assassination attempt except the potential assassins).
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/tech/elon-musk-biden-trump-assassination-attempt/index.html
“Elon Musk deleted a post Monday morning that questioned why former President Donald Trump has faced two apparent assassination attempts in recent months while President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris have not encountered any. Musk later claimed the post was a joke.”
“And no one is even trying to assassinate Biden/Kamala 🤔,” Musk wrote in the now-deleted X post.
That last part sounds like a call to action. Can his US citizenship be revoked, and can he then be deported…to Mars?
“It’s unclear if Musk, who owns X, violated X’s terms of service with those posts. He has routinely flouted his platform’s rules with few consequences. X said it restricts “engaging in or promoting violent acts,” although Musk denied he was calling for violence.”
I received 4 ads in the mail from the Michigan Republican Party last week urging me to vote for Trump. They said more Americans trust Trump on the economy. Plus, Trump had no involvement in writing “Project 2025” and he has publicly disavowed it.
Crazed goofball like Artie Bremer and Hinckley and Czolgosz and Sara Jane Moore and Sirhan Sirhan all got close enough to do hellacious damage even though Moore failed. J.W. Booth was from a totally different security situation. My point is today’s potential assassins are rather sorry-assed in comparison to the deadly deeds their forebears accomplished. Trump’s narrow escape was a fluke in July, but yesterday could have been a hit if Routh had not exposed his weapon through the vegetation. The security gaps are always to be there, and I believe a highly trained killer could succeed with just a small security lapse somewhere, anywhere. So let’s hope today’s wanna-bees are going to remain not-so-perfect beings, not 100% trained assassins. Remember, snipers can kill from 2 miles away. Yikes.
Corey, not to put too fine a point on it, but reportedly shit tons of his former WH staff were involved in writing portions of it, the primary author briefed him on it during a plane ride and Dumbass endorsed it, he addressed Heritage Fdn., who funded it and thanked them, said he’d implement it as his policy platform if elected, and his FUCKING RUNNING MATE, JDouche wrote the foreword for it.
BTW, not sure if i posted this after the debate, but it was at WaPo,
That’s 2 of 55. Feel free to read the others. Never know when that kind of info might come in handy – maybe at a cocktail party? (Do people still have cocktail parties?)
A couple or three more:
Plenty more where those came from.
One last one on Project 2025. This is close to my understanding.
“[N]ot a campaign document” but his people drafted it, he knew about it and endorsed it and said it is “…plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America.” No reading between the lines necessary.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13847227/donald-trump-jr-caught-kissing-bettina-anderson-fiancee-kimberly-guilfoyle.html
“Donald Trump Jr. is ‘caught kissing’ glamorous Palm Beach socialite Bettina Anderson during brunch date without fiancée Kimberly Guilfoyle”
“Don Jr. was last seen with his 55-year-old fiancée at the MAGA Boat Parade in Palm Beach County on August 18, the day after his intimate meal with Bettina.”
“They also clearly knew the waiter, telling him at one point that they were planning a trip to Islamorada, a resort destination in the Florida Keys.”
Can’t help but read this trashy writing in a late-1940’s Hollywood news voice. Ha! Yeah, it’s a distraction, but if it’s real…the gargoyle probably knows where the bodies are buried aka Russian ties.
Chump IS Project 2025. He SAYS he’s not but he’s a liar. Everybody knows he’s a liar , and he’s lying about that because it’s politically expedient to follow his natural inclination to lie about it. Hell, he lies IN COURT……INDER OATH……….lol
That boy ain’t right. He told his dad that Fred jr cut down that cherry tree and said (with a straight face), “I cannot tell a lie.”
He was lying again.
Only the good ol’ American MSM could take a racist non-sequitur blurted out by a flailing simpleton amid an embarrassing debate performance and turn that into into a week’s worth of cultural and political analysis, all based on disinformation, great job, corporate media 👍 😒
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i had thought that the topic of Haitian immigrants might bring the absolute political catastrophe that has been occurring in Haiti for years into the media’s focus, but nope, it’s electoral pro-wrestling season, let’s parse lies, instead
Bink, close to half the country believes whatever racist non-sequitur blurted out by the flailing simpleton amid an embarrassing debate performance, all based on disinformation, says. It is odd that it takes a week to fact check what was denied at all levels of OH government (well, except their Senators and Reps) and debunked in the next 2 days. Adding the geese to the dogs and cats was genius – in that inimitable flailing simpleton way JDouche and Dumbass have.
Another thing: the Secret Service can only do so much when trump continues to insist on putting himself in vulnerable, exposed situations. Enough with the golfing, it’s juvenile escapism
How many times has Kamala golfed in the last 4 years??
Yo what kind of guitar is neo-classical jazz guitarist Phil Chapin playing on his debut album “Steel String Savant”?
That’s a Michio Matsuda M1.
There may be some people who wish he was out of the way, but they ain’t democrats.
Bink, he’s a Japanese luthier who is now in Redwood City, CA. That one is a base model of his, nothing fancy at all, and I have to say it’s a really nice sounding guitar in person.
Well, Chafin makes it sound good on “Steel String Savant” 👍
Ok, pardon the guitar talk, again, those uninterested in it. Back to the circus! 🐘 🎪 🇺🇸
Attribution: Trump’s wild claims by Dave Whamond, Canada, PoliticalCartoons.com
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/europe/germany-land-border-control-schengen-intl/index.html
“The German government under Angela Merkel welcomed more than one million new arrivals during the migrant crisis of 2015-2016 but is now following other European countries in toughening up rules as it faces a surging far-right opposition.
Germany has begun new controls at all of its land borders as part of a crackdown on migration, placing restrictions on a wide area of free movement known as the Schengen Zone and stirring anger among its European neighbors.”
“From Monday, as well as existing border controls with Austria, Switzerland, the Czech Republic and Poland, Germany will now also have internal border controls with France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark.”
“Germany is part of the Schengen border-free area. Under European Union rules, member states have the ability to temporarily reintroduce border control at internal borders in the event of a serious threat to public policy or internal security. However, this must be applied as a last resort.”
“The current policy goal of turning back (migrants) seeking protection at Germany’s borders represents a dangerous form of populism in the migration policy debate,” a statement said, which called for an “evidence-based debate on migration policy in Europe.”
Folks don’t typically leave home if they have a safe home, food, jobs, etc.
Schrödinger’s Cat Casserole
It’s both in and not in the oven.
Thanks – now if he only gets clicks or whatever produces some revenue (very little I expect) he’ll be one step further up the “I want my career to be music” ladder.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/09/12/texas-power-plant-expansion-granbury-bitcoin-mine-pollution/
“Marathon Digital, a Florida-based cryptocurrency company, operates a 300-megawatt Bitcoin mine on Constellation Energy’s property. For months, residents have complained about the constant noise emanating from thousands of fans cooling Marathon’s computers that run round-the-clock processing Bitcoin transactions.”
“The unyielding low-frequency sound waves have caused loss of sleep, and residents believe it may also be responsible for a host of unexplained health problems that have arisen since the Bitcoin mine opened in 2022.”
“Constellation’s plan is to erect eight new turbines powered by natural gas to generate electricity. The company applied for air permits to release more than 796,000 additional tons of carbon dioxide per year. To sequester that amount of CO2 would require planting nearly 12 million trees and allowing them to grow for 10 years, according to EPA estimates.”
“The permit also proposes increased emissions at the site for a host of other pollutants, including particulate matter, nitrous oxide, carbon monoxide and volatile organic compounds.”
“…the crowd of largely white elderly and middle-aged Texans — several donning Trump campaign attire — showed that fossil fuel power plants can face opposition from all political stripes, especially when tied up with loud Bitcoin mines. United by concern for how more air emissions coupled with noise pollution could impact their health, the community also expressed mistrust in the process itself, believing that the meeting was for show, and the permits will be approved.”
“What I’m hearing,” said Jim Brown of Granbury, “is as long as the government is OK with it, the public just has to submit.”
All for a Ponzi scheme. It’s just weird, but probably a good way launder money.
Spent many summers there. Sad what they’ve done to the area.
NEW: Big Village General Election poll
Likely Voters
🔵 Harris 51% (+8)
🔴 Trump 43%
– Harris had a 4% lead in a previous, pre-debate poll (9/8) from Big Village.
Big Village #C | 1568 LV | 9/11-15
it’s not an “assassination attempt”, it’s foiled plot, if that.
Words matter.
Project 2025. The Song!
Bink, it was referred to as a “potential assassination attempt”. I was just gigging on the “potential” part of the phrase. And whether it was a plot or a plan, it was certainly foiled. And unless someone else was part of the plan, could it be a plot?
Oh, sorry, my previous comment wasn’t directed to you at all. Pogo. It was directed towards pop-political media
Every headline says “assassination attempt” and that is just not accurate, just more sensational
…could just as accurately say “Trump Voter Exercising His 2nd Amendment Right To Open Carry Is Fired On By Jittery Security Staff”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/politics/ryan-routh-trump-suspect-invs/index.html
“…Routh had a history of run-ins with the law in his native North Carolina.
In 2002, the Greensboro News and Record newspaper reported that he had been arrested after barricading himself inside a local business with a machine gun.
Court records show he was charged with felony possession of a weapon of mass destruction, among other charges, and pleaded guilty.
Tracy Fulk, a Greensboro police officer at the time, told CNN that the incident started when she pulled Routh over for a traffic stop. She said she saw a gun in his car, and after she pulled out her gun, he drove away and ran into his business. That led to a standoff with a police special response team, and Routh later surrendered…”
Nah, I didn’t take it that way anyhow. It was the pop-political media description I was gigging on. Hell, I question the use of the term assassination, but I think I’d lose that one.
Harris edge in battlegrounds, 538 poll of polls
So, Donald insisted the nut-jobs weren’t here to hurt him, but now it seems they are.
That’s not a plot. Here’s a plot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babington_Plot
MikeyJ – clueless git.
Sounds almost like a challenge to me…Please – one nutjob’s bullet nicked his ear (Not leaving a scar, and that is almost beyond comprehension) and another nutjob didn’t get a shot off. And somehow the name Gerry Ford comes to mind. Oh, and leader? As Bink noted, words matter.
I think there was a movie (or was it a play?) about that Babington thing – had a great plot as I recall. 🕵️♂️🙄
Irony upon irony, Mikey. It’s Trump’s own rhetoric that’s fueling his attackers. Media need to quit with the both-siderism and spotlight the both-waysism.
Pogo, it’s been grist for the mill for five centuries.
The question is not What, but Who?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/covid-political-polarization-public-trust-vaccine/679806/
The Why is because somebody-in-a-leadership-role’s character was weak-willed and cowardly.
Coach Walz working the young white guys — if we lose, they’ll be the reason. gotta get numbers up with them, even just a few points will do it.. https://x.com/Tim_Walz/status/1835806812622160130
Thanks to our lax gun laws and penalties, doesn’t look like Routh will get locked up forever unless they come up with more charges.
I’ll be interested in what they can charge him with if they can’t prove he intended to shoot Trump. How ironic if his would-be assassin uses the same no-intent defense as he does.
Tell the young guys the MAGAts are going after birth control next, and their wages will be garnished to pay child support. Might get their attention.
Suffolk just released 3 polls from Pennsylvania that each paints similar picture:
—Statewide: Harris up 49% to 46%
—just Erie County: Harris up 48% to 44%.
(Erie went for Biden by 1% in 2020.)
—just Northampton County: Harris up 50% to 45%
(Also went for Biden by 1% in 2020.)
We can’t let the significance of Trump’s “hatred” of Taylor Swift pass by just because a crazed maga “plotted” to shoot him. Trump is a self-loathing malignant narcissist which means the source of all his hatred is in his bathroom mirror.
Can it be a plot if it’s only in your own head?
…actually Pogo was on the right track from my misnomer, a “plot” would imply a conspiracy, one’s independent intent would constitute a “plan”
We’ve just discussed accuracy of verbiage more than apparently every editorial board in corp. news
Furthermore!
Definitions in the most accessible online dictionaries don’t state that a plot needs more than a singular participant, but it is a top synonym for “conspiracy”. i used “plot” because it’s more impactful, the same reason the MSM uses “assassination attempt”, except i’m being more truthful, and don’t influence ostensibly millions of people
OR
the editorial boards aren’t as stupid as i’d purport and are participating in the trump narrative deliberately
Jesus H. Christ, there is no “play responsibly” with this online gambling bullshit and its highly-exploitative behavioral mechanics. i’d castigate KO for having such companies as sponsors but online gambling sponsors everything now
plenty of easy revenue to put into marketing
Bink, you could be right, we don’t yet know how many voices are in his head.
fair point
Bink, and we speak to a much more critical audience than does any MSM outlet.
Well, this evening Mrs. P and I went out to celebrate our 28th. Had a wonderful time. Sat next to 4 old friends and got the rare opportunity to casually shoot the shit with folks we know.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Pogo 🥂
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