Kamala Leads After Debate

Yesterday’s new polling:
Harris 50 – Trump 45 (+5) Morning Consult
Harris 47 – Trump 42 (+5) Ipsos/Reuters
Harris 49 – Trump 45 (+4) YouGov/Times (likely voters)
Harris 50 – Trump 47 (+3) Leger/NYPost
Harris 48 – Trump 45 (+3) SoCal

YouGov Post-Debate Poll

Which presidential candidate won the debate?

Registered voters
đŸ””Harris 54%
🔮Trump 31%

Democrats
đŸ””Harris 90%
🔮Trump 6%

Republicans
🔮Trump 68%
đŸ””Harris 14%

Independents
đŸ””Harris 53%
🔮Trump 25%

The Big Question
If Harris wins, here’s how. I can’t think of any winner ever losing this question so badly: In yesterday’s Reuters poll, 49% said Harris “seemed like someone who would listen to me and understand my concerns” compared to 18% who saw Trump that way.

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Author: craigcrawford

Trail Mix Host. Lapsed journalist, author & retired pundit happily promoting nothing but the truth for Social Security checks.

72 thoughts on “Kamala Leads After Debate”

  1. no debate about it according to the cartoonists, kamala rocks

    florida’s marlette

    canada’s whamond

    Attribution: Trump won’t do second debate by Dave Whamond, Canada, PoliticalCartoons.com

  2. Few people believe Donald Trump or J.D. Vance when they say they don’t care about Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris, the former president wrote the captions in his new coffee table picture book, and President Biden swapped hats with a Trump supporter at a 9/11 memorial event.

  3. the guardian provides another clip of Joe and the hat exchange:

    The clip of the interaction shows the man wearing the Trump 2024 hat, approaching the president, and Biden offering him his own presidential seal cap to wear.
    “You remember your name?” the man sarcastically asks Biden, to which the president jokingly responds: “I don’t remember my name … I’m slow.”
    The man proceeded to call the president an “old fart”.
    “Yeah, I know man, I’m an old guy … you would know about that,” Biden responded.
    “He reminds me of the guys I grew up with,” Biden stated to the crowd, while autographing the presidential hat for the man.
    “I need that hat,” Biden added, referring to the Trump hat, to which people in the crowd shout: “Put it on!”
    Biden proceeded to put the Trump 2024 hat on, and was greeted with cheers in the room.
    “I’m proud of you now,” the man said.
    “Remember, no eating dogs and cats,” Biden added.
    […]
    A spokesperson for the White House said that the president tried on the hat in a gesture of unity and bipartisanship.
    “At the Shanksville Fire Station, POTUS spoke about the country’s bipartisan unity after 9/11 and said we needed to get back to that” said the White House senior deputy press secretary, Andrew Bates. “As a gesture, he gave a hat to a Trump supporter who then said that in the same spirit, POTUS should put on his Trump cap. He briefly wore it.”
    Some X users celebrated Biden’s move, calling it “nice” to see “people from opposing parties joke around instead of attack each other”.

  4. “The geese!  The geese!”  Yesterday and previous days it was cats, then dogs…yesterday ducks, and now geese.  What a smorgasbord those Haitians are cooking up.  Yeah we have a Canadian geese problem here and yet, we let them hatch their cute goslings and parade around everywhere.  I only heard one story about a guy in Toledo killing a wild goose for Thanksgiving dinner.  This  was 28 years ago.  Years ago a popular restaurant in Fort Wayne was decimated when a rumor spread they were serving cat meat, and remember when Domino’s Pizza had to post disclaimers about their drivers ejaculating onto delivery pizzas?  All this is bullshit of course.  And while Chicken Little’s claim that the sky is falling was also false, Humpty Dumpty actually did fall and crack open.  He did it on September 10, 2024.

  5. It was too long for a comment, so I posted a doc file of this at https://trailmix.cc/home/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Harris-Debate.docx

    Responses to a list of “25 lies” from the debate that the right wing mob is widely circulating about Harris, originally written by The Federalist.

     Last night Sean Hannity devoted a big chunk of his show reciting each of these claims without rebuttal. And, to say the least, these claims are rebuttable.

  6. As a politician I once worked for always said, “Campaigns must be about the future, because it’s going to happen anyway”

    This Harris ad out of the debate frames it just right — Past vs. Future

  7. According to legend, a flock of geese saved Rome from a Gallic invasion in the early 4th century BC:

    The attack 
    The Gauls, led by Brennus, tried to sneak up on the Romans during the night to take over the city, except for the Capitoline Hill, where the Romans were entrenched 

    The alarm 
    The geese, sacred to Juno, were disturbed by the invaders’ movements and began honking loudly, waking the Roman guards 

    The defense 
    The guards threw the Gauls off the hill, saving Rome 

    The recognition 
    In honor of the geese’ heroism, the Romans elevated them to the status of heroes and built a temple to Juno 

    The symbol 
    The geese’ story became a symbol of protection and vigilance, which is still celebrated in Roman culture today.

    Geese were used as security as early as 390 BC because they are instinctively protective of the animals and humans that live with them. They are known to charge at intruders without fear

    ———

    Talk about immigrants hating the geese


.

  8. Ha, good story Sturg, sounds true. And also, Anybody who thinks they can walk up to a lakeside, grab one of those mean varmints and walk away with your life, good luck. I’ve seen them chase alligators.

  9. which begs the proverbial question, “why are magas assholes?”*

    The man proceeded to call the president an “old fart”.

     

    *answer: asshole is a form of stupid and stupid is funny.

  12. They don’t call them “cobra chickens” for nothing.  I was riding in a pick-up truck and they challenged the truck.  

    Anyway, “they’re eating the dawgz,” is just another distraction from Project 2025.
     
    ps – Not sure who this Loomer person is (his new Russian handler?), but mTg sounds jealous. 

    Sturg – I’d say JD looks constipated in that pic, but he always seems a little backed up.

  14. Checked the Loomer wiki page and, boy, she has had a lot of facial injectables for a 31-year old. Who has been funding her ~career~ as a lying loon? Does she have ties to Russia?

    Project 2025. What a “concept.”
    Don’t let it happen to you?

  15. After watching debate I would love to see Kamala do a network town hall. Checks the box for taking questions from a journalist and the public. There’s still some work to do to persuade voters she’s the best choice for delivering a better economy.

  22. When we were at the very posh Omni Mt Washington Hotel last week… they had a golf course.  There were Canadian geese all over it.  No one was bothering them… but to say they have a geese problem is an overwhelming understatement. 
     
     

  29. trump is spending valuable time campaigning in a blue state when he could be spending that time fleeing
     
    he is so low energy today, racist rambling in a monotone for what seems like hours

    he’s like a cross between Grandpa Simpson and Hitler

    lol he just said he’s a “guy with good hair but not as good as 5 years ago, let’s be honest” 😆

  31. lol he’s saying David Muir “lost respect”, Muir GAINED more respect than any of the gutless corporate news clowns even tried to attain

    wow. he said that he loves California but he’s disparaging it because he’s running for President (paraphrasing, he didn’t say “disparaging”)

    Ok, pardon me, should not have clicked “play” đŸ€

  32. Every day, more  reports about teenagers registering to vote. I wish I wasn’t so jaded and could believe all these kids would make it to the polling places and vote Blue.  So far in past elections it’s always the same:  voter turnout among young voters under 25 disappointingly low.  So Harris can’t depend on young voters. The good news is that women voters should be able to edge out Trump forever.  Men still want Trump but these converts from the red base and the strong women polling should be enough, barely, to finish off this MAGA nonsense.  

  33. Here you go, Dex:
     
    “Della Volpe: Without younger people, Donald Trump would be the president. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona — those five states flipped from red to blue because of younger voters. When you look at the data, you’ll find that Trump won the vote of everyone over the age of 45 in those states. It was the combination of record turnout among 18-29-year-olds and essentially a 20-point margin across those five states that was chiefly responsible, I would argue, for Biden’s win..”

    https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/C_mpLV4xQiY?xmt=AQGz_SsrYo4bD_mI9rh7EtzToT5bF02r0nWy7ymsgzw4RQ

  34. The interwebs are full of facts and misrepresentations of the youth vote.  While I happen to believe a massive voter turnout of adult women should carry Harris to 1600 Penna Ave, a record number of youth voters will increase the victory margin, but not sway it. 
    Trump never expected to win in 2016;  he wanted to get himself a media conglomeration from his candidacy, nothing more.  Then the shit hit the fan as HRC’s problems as Secretary of State, and Jim Comey’s little interference gambit cost her the Presidency.  I believe Harris-Walz know this could happen again and are working day and night to formulate a victory plan. Yes, as many media are explaining, we are so damn sick of Donald John Trump and his nonsense and danger, we must defeat him and soundly at that.

  35. It’s not about the how but the why? Only one reason they latched on to the eating-pets-story is it aligns so neatly to whip up support for the mass deportation plan. They need folks fired up to vote on that issue. 

    No one involved in Trump’s debate preparations or in a position to speak for his campaign agreed to discuss the strategy on the record or answer questions about how it mutated from a fringe obsession to a debate stage sound bite. 

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-fringe-online-claim-immigrants-eating-pets-debate-trump-rcna170759
     

  36. That Melania video on X where she says the Pennsylvania assassination attempt need to be investigated  thoroughly is creepy as hell. I am not linking it because I avoid X unless someone says I should click on a link they find important and they send it to me.  But boy howdy, Trump’s serious head-shot wound he talks about surely healed quickly.  What the hell?  Magic healing cream from Jesus, his hero? 

  37. trump’s stuck in his own echo-chamber on that site of his and the right-wing trolls just fill the discussion with a flood of racist lies, he got suckered by his own disinformation agents, so beautifully poetic

  38. The thing about the registration site: I registered as unaffiliated because I didn’t want anyone along the way, from the state or local government to the postal carrier delivering my card, to mark me as a Dem.  I can’t be the only one who feels unsafe with these MAGAts around. 

    Dex – Those young women will turn out to vote, thanks to SCOTUS killing Roe. It’s clear that birth control is next. Young men should vote blue, too. Child support.

    That ear is the most ear that ever eared. The sound of crickets from survivors and their families is weird. The only newish thing was an image of all of the guns the shooter had. It’s been way too quiet for this to have been an actual assassination attempt. More likely, it was meant to rile up the base and get sympathy from undecideds, and more eyes on the convention.

  39. BID, there are nut-cases everywhere, nowhere is totally safe. Repubs have nationalized persecution. I feel mostly okay living on the fringe of our blue county in a blue state. Our HOA prohibits yard signs, and so far I have seen no violators. As much as I still love Alabama, I will do my best to never live in a red state or a red county again. Blue is best.

  40. sound of crickets from survivors and their families is weird

     
    somebody has threatened them or paid them off or both. 

  41. Politically speaking, my favorite time in Alabama was when everybody in Mountain Brook had Doug Jones signs in their yard.

  43. My maggers have benefited their entire lives by living in Blue States, USA. They have nothing to compare it to and likely don’t even realize all the ways they’ve come out ahead just by breathing liberal air. 

  44. BID, how long before Melania shows up and kicks her off the bus? Don’t evangelical magas think it weird to have hanky-panky going on in plain view at Mara Logo?

  45. Renee, love the MWI. Omni upped its game from what I could tell when Mrs. P and I were there 7 or 8 years ago. Took the cog to the top – much colder than at the Inn. Also did the ropes course – which was pretty spectacular. Didn’t see geese on the golf course- but it was summer so they were probably further south, like at Bel Meadow golf course at Mt. Claire near East Bumfuck. So much Goose shit on 7, 8 & 11 no one calls it cheating to “improve” your lie or clean your ball.

  46. BiD, perhaps only in training to be the 4th mrs?  he’s so transactional that I suspect there’s a lot of money involved in the availability of that plane seat she occupies. … either hers or a someone sponsoring her.  

  47. Dumbass at Rancho Palos Verdes – VERY toney area where Mrs. P’s RWer rich uncle lives. 

    “People said I was angry at the debate,” Trump said. “And yes I am angry, because he allowed 21 million illegal aliens invading our communities.”

    Presumably babbling about Gavin Newsom.  God what an asshole. 

  48. patD – Somebody needs to follow the Loomer loot and connections.  Maybe the jealous mTg should call for an investigation.  Journalists probably won’t investigate.

  49. There’s a carpet cleaning commercial where a  lady is BBQing while a white dog digs a mud hole, and then it runs inside the house.  The voiceover: “We love our pets
until we don’t.”
    Then, we eat them? 

  50. Well, no, they’re kind of tough and stringy
.usually we just shoot them and toss them into the rock quarry

  51. wow gas is really cheap right now, Thanks President Biden and VP Kamala! đŸ«Ą đŸ‡ș🇾 

  52. I used my Harry’s Tweeter points and filled up at $2.21 a gallon today.   

    V-8, 4-barrel, dual exhaust and 120 mph on River Rd were pretty cool when I was starting out—now, just sign me up for that electric golf cart.

  55. There is a saying for someone in Chump’s position:   Root hog, or die.  

    Also the other one my old granny used on people like him: Common as pigs’ tracks.

  56. https://variety.com/2024/politics/news/oprah-winfrey-kamala-harris-livestream-1236138521/

    “Winfrey will host about 400 voters in person on Sept. 19 and livestream the event on platforms including YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Twitch and Instagram.”

    ”
Oprah Winfreyis holding a large livestream next week to rally support for Kamala Harris.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-be-interviewed-by-abc-news-affiliate-philadelphia-campaign-says-2024-09-13/

    “Harris and Oprah Winfrey to rally support in livestream event next week.”

    Craig, I guess it’s kind of a virtual town hall. I’m assuming the 400 will get to ask questions and maybe some moderated from the various platforms. Eh, it looks like it’s a get-out-the-vote initiative. Still


  58. We had a chance to get down to some good work for Humanity, but did we do that?  NO.  What we did was we elected another stupid fat white racist and spent the next 4 years fiddle-fucking around with Bozo at the helm, with his big red nose and his extra-large floppy yellow shoes; and us just trying to keep his dumb ass from driving us all into the ditch.

  59. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nebraskans-can-vote-competing-abortion-ballot-measures-top-court-rules-2024-09-13/

    “Competing proposals to amend Nebraska’s constitution, one to guarantee abortion rights and the other to restrict them, can appear on ballots in November’s election, the state’s highest court ruled on Friday.”
     
    “One proposed amendment, sponsored by a coalition of pro-abortion rights organizations including a Planned Parenthood affiliate, would establish a “fundamental right” to abortion up to fetal viability, and to protect the mother’s life or health after that.”

    “The opposing measure, sponsored by a group of anti-abortion doctors, would prohibit abortion after the first trimester, with exceptions for medical emergencies, rape or incest. That is similar to Nebraska’s existing abortion law.”

    “The pro-abortion rights amendment was challenged by a doctor and by the founder of a facility that houses women facing unplanned pregnancies.”

    They still have homes for unwed mothers? Is that group selling babies?  (That’s how rumors get started.)
     
    “The opposing amendment was challenged by a group of practicing and retired doctors.”
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

  62. She had ‘em fired-up in NEPA, let’s goooo đŸ”„ 🚂 đŸ‡ș🇾 

    (no keystone or coal emojis so let’s settle for a steam-powered locomotive)

  63. Update — Post debate polls:

    Harris 50-45 (+5) Morn Consult 

    Harris 47-42 (+5)  Ipsos/Reuters

    Harris 51-47  (+4)  RMG 

    Harris 50-46 (+4) Data4Progress

    Harris 49-45 (+4) YouGov/Times (LVs) 

    Harris 50-47 (+3) Leger/NYPost 

    Harris 48-45 (+3) SoCal

    Harris 44-42 (+2) Redfield/W

    Happy Friday!

  64. Exposing hisself as a evil psycho and testing how far people will like that. We shall see.
     

    Trump repeated his promise to conduct the largest deportation operation in American history, but said he would start in Springfield, Ohio, and Aurora, Colo., two cities at the center of baseless and misleading claims he has made about migrants taking over buildings and bringing crime and disease to towns.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/13/us/harris-trump-election?smid=url-share#c6bdcb34-c1fb-5008-a12c-1ef813f6d7a1
     

  65. https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-daughter-vivian-slams-his-offer-to-give-taylor-swift-a-baby

    “Vivian Jenna Wilson, 20, the eldest of twins Musk fathered with author Justine Musk, took to Threads on Wednesday to slam her father’s comments as “sexist,” “incel nonsense” following Swift’s endorsement of Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris over Republicancandidate Donald Trump.”
    “The timing for the Taylor Swift endorsement of Kamala Harris honestly could not have been better,” wrote Wilson. “Can’t wait to see the Swifties at the polls! Vote blue 💙💙”
    “Also, yes, I saw ‘the tweet,’” she wrote. “Heinous incel nonsense is in fact heinous incel nonsense. I don’t really have anything to add to it, it’s just abhorrent. That much is obvious and if you don’t see how then you’re part of the problem.”
    She added, “I would just like to say to my audience members, don’t let people talk to you like that. It’s disgusting, it’s belittling and incredibly sexist. You deserve better.”
     

    If the average creep down the street offered to “give” a woman a baby, she’d be smart to get a restraining order. TS might need one just to send a message.

  67. Generation Gap:
    I told my daughter I have Chuck Berry’s autograph.   She says, “Chuck Berry. Wasn’t he kind of skeevy?”
     

  68. I’ll have Noel Casler .
    @caslernoel
    as a guest on The Jack Hopkins Show podcast on MONDAY, September 16th. This, I can tell you; we will be shit-talking Donald Trump the entire Goddamn episode. I’ll be sure to send that sorry prick a link

  70. Vance reputed to have shifted from Haitians eating pets to Haitians carrying HIV AIDS.    If it ain’t one thing, it’s another.  .

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