CLEVELAND, Ohio — The age defying Rolling Stones play in Cleveland Saturday night at the stadium on their ‘Hackney Diamonds tour’, that could also be dubbed the ‘Old as Biden and Trump tour. Mick Jagger and Kieth Richards are 80 while Ronnie Wood is 77. AARP is really a sponsor of the tour, no joke.
‘Hackney Diamonds’ the band’s latest great album also features Paul McCartney playing base on one song. The former Beatle is now 81 and still touring the world himself.
Just heard one TV announcer say 80 is now the new 60. The Stones make 80 look like the new 30, especially Mick Jagger. Saw the Rolling Stones when they played the old Cleveland Stadium in 1994 on their ‘Voodoo Lounge tour’. Went to it in part thinking it could be the last time they played Cleveland or anywhere, for that matter, but Jagger was just 51 then.
Still remember sitting in the stadium in awe of Jagger for the entire show because he didn’t stop moving at his rocking pace for 2 hours and still hasn’t. They opened that show with Buddy Holly’s ‘Not Fade Away’ and they haven’t. Both the Rolling Stones and McCartney have enough wealth to retire, but they haven’t. All still touring the world, which speaks to their true love of their craft.
Concert goers can take performers playing and singing for granted. Put yourself in the shoes of the performer for a minute or two hours. Imagine having song catalogues as extensive as the Rolling Stones and Paul McCartney have and trying to remember all the chords and lyrics to all those songs at any age, let alone in your 70′s and 80′s.
Thanks to the Stones for another great album and choosing to play Cleveland. Looks like a nice night, may the band and fans have a great time.
Saw a couple of TikTok videos of Jagger rehearsing dance moves for this tour. Really incredible agility. I had to double take, thought it must be 20-30 years ago but it was current video.
HOW DO YOU MODERATE A LIAR?
Not easily, but you gotta try.
I do not envy CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash in dealing with Trump’s serial lying in the debate on Thursday. I guess some would say it’s not their job, but why have journalists moderating if not to make some effort to defend the truth?
I have compiled this partial list of his usual lies in rally speeches he’s likely to repeat in the debate. Tapper/Bash at least should point out the truth, no need to dwell on it. Same goes for Biden, of course, but he is nowhere hear Trump’s major league lying.
— THE BIG LIE: He won the 2020 election (No outcome-determinative voter fraud has ever been found in any state) — He created the greatest U.S. economy in U.S. history (not by any metric). — He passed the biggest tax cut in history (it ranks 8th, and went mostly to corporations and earners over $400,000). — He did more for Black people than any president but Abraham Lincoln (not by any metric). — Black unemployment and poverty lowest in history during his term (False, and both are lower under Biden) — He defeated ISIS in four weeks (it took the United States and coalition partners more than two years after he took office). — He was the first president to impose tariffs on China (China has faced U.S. tariffs since George — Washington first enacted them in 1789). — He increased government revenue even though he cut taxes (False, and he added nearly $8 trillion to the federal debt). — Mexico is emptying prisons/insane asylums to the U.S. border (False, both populations are growing) — “Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine” was found in the White House (it was hundreds of dollars) — “15 million migrants a year have entered the United States under Biden” (It peaked at 2.2 million in 2022) — “Under Biden, we have a three-year inflation rate of almost 50 percent. Under me, you had no inflation.” (Biden’s cumulative inflation is 18.5%, year-to-year is now 3.3% — Trump’s cumulative was 8%) — “Native-born Americans have lost 1 million jobs to immigrants” (False, unemployment is lower for native-born Americans than for immigrants) — “Low INSULIN PRICING was gotten for millions of Americans by me, and the Trump Administration, not by Crooked Joe Biden” (Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act set the $35 per month price cap on Insulin)
Sources: CNN, Washington Post, PolitiFact.com (Poynter Institute)
According to the Poynter Institute’s 849 fact checks of Trump statements: 75% are false or mostly false (603 statements), 12% are half-true, 8% mostly true and 3% true — https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Lol for this thread, Pat! Mick was literally skipping down the catwalk at one point. The old boy’s still got it. His youngest child is 7 years old.
Ivy, bring back any merch from the show? on the same page as darcy’s op-ed was an ad selling a t-shirt (had jagger instead of eastwood on it) :
Pat, we did not score any merch. Long story but our seats were field level about the fifty yard line. All the merch was upstairs. We eventually made our way up there but tee shirts were gone. Mr. Ivy didn’t want to spend the $500 for one of the remaining baseball jackets, nice as they were. We might go back and order something online. We have our yellow wrist bands and the stadium parking lot ticket with date and show for souvenirs.
PS: no ticket stub keepsakes anymore. Everything is the QR and you stick your whole phone in the gizmo.
We were running behind due to traffic and weather but made it to our seats in time for the warm up band Widespread Panic. Enjoyed them too, they had their own fan base going on.
I have a small Stones connection— in ‘69 one of my best friends stationed with me in Memphis was from Staten Island. We managed to stay in touch all these years, visiting back and forth.
His sister was “discovered” and became a model for 17 magazine and then Vogue and then later married a Rolling Stone. (Hint; they’re still married) So my friend wound up having 8 or 9 children (I lost count) and 2 of them started a band. Electric Mud. They opened for the Stonrs in their Arizona concert. Small world.
The engineering feat was equally astonishing.
I wonder how much mick and Keef make after paying for all that.
The Mud do Stones
3 ex navy seals in the band.
Sturg – So, your friend’s last name is Hansen.
Yup. He passed in 2021. His older brother is Al, an actor out in Hollywood. He did a lot of tv but I guess his most known role was “the bad actor” who got replaced by Charlton Heston in that Mike myers movie with Dana carvey.
Oh and in the Movie “Act of Valor” his son Dave, an active Seal at the time (and thus credited only as Chief Dave) played in the movie.
Wiki
As Act of Valor developed with the SEALs on board as advisors, the filmmakers realized that no actors could realistically portray or physically fill the roles they had written and the actual SEALs and SWCC were drafted to star in the film.
When we were in Memphis Greg was torn between being a Seal and marrying his high school sweetheart. Marriage won out but 5 of their children became Seals.
I remember one time driving by the open end of Mile High Stadium, (maybe 6th Avenue?) when somebody scored a touchdown or or something and the roar which erupted sounded like a freight train on the road next to me, bout scared me shitless. lol.
Maybe thats the way it works in movie-land but I’ve always figured Meyers for a jerk since then.
today’s meme…
That was fun, Sturge. Thanks for those clips. Love your not-so-small connections. The “bad actor” is good at acting, imo.
My co-worker and I once staked out Charlton Heston at what we knew would be his escorted secret entrance for a personal appearance at a department store in Houston. We weren’t supposed to be there and he flashed us a strange look. This was before his cold-dead-hands time when he was still a good guy.
Mick gave her a shout-out of sorts during the Hello Denver part of his performance. Not necessarily a compliment, but all in spirit, he claimed. Also part of the same joke was a reference to the pungent odor wafting toward the stage which apparently they could easily smell (it was bad.)
Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican, has a strong showing compared to her GOP rivals in a recent poll, but many Coloradans remain undecided going into Tuesday’s primary election.
Bobert currently serves Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District, but has been campaigning to take over now-retired Representative Ken Buck’s vacant seat in Colorado’s 4th District. The congresswoman previously said she changed districts for personal reasons, but the move came after she narrowly won in the 3rd district during the 2022 midterms, despite it generally being viewed as having a Republican-lean.
trailmix throwback classic!
This morning I saw Wile E. Coyote (he showed his card) in a cartoon not with any road runner but with Bugs Bunny. It appears that the Road Runner stole the Bunny’s gig.
Hat’s off to trail friend Ivy for sharing the fun. she’s not alone. here’s jeff darcy’s op ed last week in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
Rolling Stones, Biden, Trump: Darcy cartoon – cleveland.com
Saw a couple of TikTok videos of Jagger rehearsing dance moves for this tour. Really incredible agility. I had to double take, thought it must be 20-30 years ago but it was current video.
HOW DO YOU MODERATE A LIAR?
Not easily, but you gotta try.
I do not envy CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash in dealing with Trump’s serial lying in the debate on Thursday. I guess some would say it’s not their job, but why have journalists moderating if not to make some effort to defend the truth?
I have compiled this partial list of his usual lies in rally speeches he’s likely to repeat in the debate. Tapper/Bash at least should point out the truth, no need to dwell on it. Same goes for Biden, of course, but he is nowhere hear Trump’s major league lying.
— THE BIG LIE: He won the 2020 election (No outcome-determinative voter fraud has ever been found in any state)
— He created the greatest U.S. economy in U.S. history (not by any metric).
— He passed the biggest tax cut in history (it ranks 8th, and went mostly to corporations and earners over $400,000).
— He did more for Black people than any president but Abraham Lincoln (not by any metric).
— Black unemployment and poverty lowest in history during his term (False, and both are lower under Biden)
— He defeated ISIS in four weeks (it took the United States and coalition partners more than two years after he took office).
— He was the first president to impose tariffs on China (China has faced U.S. tariffs since George
— Washington first enacted them in 1789).
— He increased government revenue even though he cut taxes (False, and he added nearly $8 trillion to the federal debt).
— Mexico is emptying prisons/insane asylums to the U.S. border (False, both populations are growing)
— “Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine” was found in the White House (it was hundreds of dollars)
— “15 million migrants a year have entered the United States under Biden” (It peaked at 2.2 million in 2022)
— “Under Biden, we have a three-year inflation rate of almost 50 percent. Under me, you had no inflation.” (Biden’s cumulative inflation is 18.5%, year-to-year is now 3.3% — Trump’s cumulative was 8%)
— “Native-born Americans have lost 1 million jobs to immigrants” (False, unemployment is lower for native-born Americans than for immigrants)
— “Low INSULIN PRICING was gotten for millions of Americans by me, and the Trump Administration, not by Crooked Joe Biden” (Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act set the $35 per month price cap on Insulin)
Sources: CNN, Washington Post, PolitiFact.com (Poynter Institute)
According to the Poynter Institute’s 849 fact checks of Trump statements: 75% are false or mostly false (603 statements), 12% are half-true, 8% mostly true and 3% true — https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Lol for this thread, Pat! Mick was literally skipping down the catwalk at one point. The old boy’s still got it. His youngest child is 7 years old.
Ivy, bring back any merch from the show? on the same page as darcy’s op-ed was an ad selling a t-shirt (had jagger instead of eastwood on it) :
Pat, we did not score any merch. Long story but our seats were field level about the fifty yard line. All the merch was upstairs. We eventually made our way up there but tee shirts were gone. Mr. Ivy didn’t want to spend the $500 for one of the remaining baseball jackets, nice as they were. We might go back and order something online. We have our yellow wrist bands and the stadium parking lot ticket with date and show for souvenirs.
PS: no ticket stub keepsakes anymore. Everything is the QR and you stick your whole phone in the gizmo.
We were running behind due to traffic and weather but made it to our seats in time for the warm up band Widespread Panic. Enjoyed them too, they had their own fan base going on.
I have a small Stones connection— in ‘69 one of my best friends stationed with me in Memphis was from Staten Island. We managed to stay in touch all these years, visiting back and forth.
His sister was “discovered” and became a model for 17 magazine and then Vogue and then later married a Rolling Stone. (Hint; they’re still married) So my friend wound up having 8 or 9 children (I lost count) and 2 of them started a band. Electric Mud. They opened for the Stonrs in their Arizona concert. Small world.
The engineering feat was equally astonishing.
I wonder how much mick and Keef make after paying for all that.
The Mud do Stones
3 ex navy seals in the band.
Sturg – So, your friend’s last name is Hansen.
Yup. He passed in 2021. His older brother is Al, an actor out in Hollywood. He did a lot of tv but I guess his most known role was “the bad actor” who got replaced by Charlton Heston in that Mike myers movie with Dana carvey.
Oh and in the Movie “Act of Valor” his son Dave, an active Seal at the time (and thus credited only as Chief Dave) played in the movie.
Wiki
As Act of Valor developed with the SEALs on board as advisors, the filmmakers realized that no actors could realistically portray or physically fill the roles they had written and the actual SEALs and SWCC were drafted to star in the film.
When we were in Memphis Greg was torn between being a Seal and marrying his high school sweetheart. Marriage won out but 5 of their children became Seals.
I remember one time driving by the open end of Mile High Stadium, (maybe 6th Avenue?) when somebody scored a touchdown or or something and the roar which erupted sounded like a freight train on the road next to me, bout scared me shitless. lol.
Maybe thats the way it works in movie-land but I’ve always figured Meyers for a jerk since then.
today’s meme…
That was fun, Sturge. Thanks for those clips. Love your not-so-small connections. The “bad actor” is good at acting, imo.
My co-worker and I once staked out Charlton Heston at what we knew would be his escorted secret entrance for a personal appearance at a department store in Houston. We weren’t supposed to be there and he flashed us a strange look. This was before his cold-dead-hands time when he was still a good guy.
Mick gave her a shout-out of sorts during the Hello Denver part of his performance. Not necessarily a compliment, but all in spirit, he claimed. Also part of the same joke was a reference to the pungent odor wafting toward the stage which apparently they could easily smell (it was bad.)
Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican, has a strong showing compared to her GOP rivals in a recent poll, but many Coloradans remain undecided going into Tuesday’s primary election.
Bobert currently serves Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District, but has been campaigning to take over now-retired Representative Ken Buck’s vacant seat in Colorado’s 4th District. The congresswoman previously said she changed districts for personal reasons, but the move came after she narrowly won in the 3rd district during the 2022 midterms, despite it generally being viewed as having a Republican-lean.
trailmix throwback classic!
This morning I saw Wile E. Coyote (he showed his card) in a cartoon not with any road runner but with Bugs Bunny. It appears that the Road Runner stole the Bunny’s gig.
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