CNN has exclusively obtained the audio recording of the 2021 meeting in Bedminster, New Jersey, where former President Donald Trump discusses holding secret documents he did not declassify. Conservative lawyer George Conway reacts.
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell speaks to former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann and national security attorney Bradley Moss about a newly released audio recording of former President Donald Trump from a 2021 meeting at his Bedminster, New Jersey golf club where he discusses a classified document with people who were not authorized to see it.
Yesterday was a big day on the intertubes for me. During the day I went to Facebook and discovered I had a “Top Presenter” award, which I did not know was a thing.I just asked which restaurants in the Annapolis area served lobsters. Turns out several do. Then late at night I got an “Atta Girl” for my analysis of the puttie giving the speech about the coup attempt. Unless the original puttie got a medical miracle, I am pretty sure it was a double.
David Neiwert, on the Right wingers dreams of civil war in America:
I don’t think they’ll win. I don’t think they’re capable of winning, but I think a lot of people can get hurt and I think there will be a lot of people hurt by this, including them. One thing I’ve learned about right wing extremists over 30 years of covering them is that people who get involved in these movements destroy their lives. It’s one of the most toxic forces in America. It draws people into the abyss. It ruins their family relationships, ruins their relationships in the community. A lot of the time they wind up in prison.
“The Deranged Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, working in conjunction with the DOJ & FBI, illegally leaked and “spun” a tape and transcript of me which is actually an exoneration, rather than what they would have you believe. This continuing Witch Hunt is another ELECTION INTERFERENCE Scam. They are cheaters and thugs!”
“COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE DERANGED, TRUMP HATING JACK SMITH, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS FRIENDS, THAT AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I COME UNDER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT, AS AFFIRMED BY THE CLINTON SOCKS CASE, NOT BY THIS PSYCHOS’ FANTASY OF THE NEVER USED BEFORE ESPIONAGE ACT OF 1917. “SMITH” SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CROOKED JOE BIDDEN AND ALL OF THE CRIMES THAT HE HAS PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, INCLUDING THE MILLIONS & MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HE EXTORTED FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES!”
“US intelligence officials were able to gather an extremely detailed and accurate picture of Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plans leading up to his short-lived rebellion, including where and how Wagner was planning to advance, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.”
“The intelligence was so secret that within the US, it was briefed only to the most senior administration officials as well as the Gang of Eight members of Congress, who have access to the most sensitive intelligence matters.”
“Some NATO officials expressed frustration that the intelligence was not shared. But doing so would have risked compromising extremely sensitive sources and methods, sources explained. Ukrainian officials were not told about the intelligence in advance, either, officials said, due primarily to fears that conversations between US and Ukrainian officials might be intercepted by adversaries.”
Very happy that tRUMPsky wasn’t prez. He would’ve gone blabbing to Vlad.
By his punctuation, it seems he is referring to multiple psychos. Does he mean the grand jury who indicted him? Does he realize Jack Smith did not, personally, indict him?
Why mention Mr. Smith’s family, unless you are signaling to MAGAts that he wants them targeted.?
Poot’s continued non-retaliation against the U. S. is more or less proof that he is unable to. Our intelligence services are top notch and on the ball, in spite of how much The Pumpkin tried to undermine them.
Well, now…..Historical parallels Dept.
Wagnerians stuck there leaderless with all weapons intact (at this point) rings an historical bell……The Ten Thousand Greek mercenaries stuck there leaderless in the middle of Persia as described in Book of the Day: ANABASIS.
I wonder if they “liberated” any collectibles from the Rostovian Armories.
Democracy dodges bullet: Supreme Court rejects Trump Republican plan for state legislatures to take over electoral college. (But they’ve got other tricks in the works)…
Barack Obama on the ruling: “They rejected the fringe independent state legislature theory that threatened to upend our democracy and dismantle our system of checks and balances by giving state legislatures near-total control of federal election laws.” (CNN)
Liz Cheney, to the good folks at New York City’s Center For Culture and Arts.
“What we’ve done in our politics is create a situation where we’re electing idiots,” she said to applause from the audience.
“And so, I don’t look at it through the lens of, is this what I should do or what I shouldn’t do. I look at it through the lens of, how do we elect serious people?
BB, kudos to you for your comment over the weekend about not being able to take out life insurance on Pirgozhin – I saw a reel of about a half dozen pundits saying the same thing – all of whom said it after you made that comment. And from Poobah’s Politico link about SCOTUS’ NC ruling, The Supreme Court on Tuesday rebuffed a legal theory that argued that state legislatures have the authority to set election rules with little oversight from state courts, a major decision that turns away a conservative push to empower state legislatures. By a 6-3 vote, the court rejected the “independent state legislature” theory in a case about North Carolina’s congressional map. The once-fringe legal theory broadly argued that state courts have little — or no — authority to question state legislatures on election laws for federal contests. The court’s decision in Moore v. Harper closes the path to what could have been a radical overhaul of America’s election laws. A particularly robust reading of the theory — which the court turned aside — would have empowered state legislatures to make decisions on all aspects of elections, from congressional lines to how people register to vote and cast a ballot, without any opportunity for challengers to contest those decisions in state courts under state laws or constitutions. Opponents of the theory argued that it could have led to unchecked partisan gerrymandering, and laws that would make it harder for people to vote. Chief Justice John Roberts… Read more »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/supreme-court-voting-moore-v-harper-time-bomb.html Craig – Well, it sounded great until I read this part. “But Moore is not all good news. In the last part of his majority opinion for the court, the chief justice got the liberal justices to sign onto a version of judicial review that is going to give the federal courts, and especially the Supreme Court itself, the last word in election disputes. The court held that “state courts may not transgress the ordinary bounds of judicial review such that they arrogate to themselves the power vested in state legislatures to regulate federal elections.” “Make no mistake: this apparent new test would give great power to federal courts, and especially to the U.S. Supreme Court, to second guess state court rulings in the most sensitive of cases. It is going to allow for a second bite at the apple potentially in cases involving the outcome of presidential elections. In the 2020 presidential election, for example, Trump allies raised this theory in arguing that Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court could not extend the days for the receipt of absentee ballots by three days in light of the pandemic. There were not enough of these late arriving ballots to make a difference in 2020, but if there had been, according to the approach laid out in Kavanaugh’s concurrence, the U.S. Supreme Court would have had to look at Pennsylvania court precedents to decide if the state court went too far in deciding matters under its own state laws. It easily could have… Read more »
if faux friends are right, doesn’t that put him in violation of the court’s restriction limiting him to talking to anybody else but his lawyers about the evidence disclosed by DOJ discovery?
Fox News host Steve Doocy suggested former President Trump may have been behind the leak of an audio recording showing Trump talking about his handling of classified documents.
“You know what? If Trump thinks it’s an exoneration of him, perhaps somebody on his side actually did the leaking to CNN and Maggie Haberman,” Doocy said Tuesday morning.
“That makes sense,” co-host Brian Kilmeade chimed in.
“It does, actually,” Doocy said. “He’s admitting he’s got classified documents.”
[continues]
but is it likely, if he did violate the court rule, that cannon would chastize him and punish him for contempt?
“The US Treasury Department on Tuesday imposed sanctions on four companies involved in “gold dealing” and one person they say made “weapons deals” tied to the Wagner Group.”
“They target companies in Russia, the United Arab Emirates, and the Central African Republic that “have engaged in illicit gold dealings to fund the Wagner Group to sustain and expand its armed forces, including in Ukraine and Africa.”
I think we’ve known this for awhile. Wagner has been terrorizing folks in Africa longer than in Ukraine. Better late than never, I guess.
Can you keep a secret?
I wonder if you can,
Don’t laugh and don’t cry
While it tickles in your hand.
by george, “he’s just a sociopathic criminal”
CNN has exclusively obtained the audio recording of the 2021 meeting in Bedminster, New Jersey, where former President Donald Trump discusses holding secret documents he did not declassify. Conservative lawyer George Conway reacts.
‘This is game over’: Andrew Weissmann on bombshell Trump audio recording – YouTube
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell speaks to former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann and national security attorney Bradley Moss about a newly released audio recording of former President Donald Trump from a 2021 meeting at his Bedminster, New Jersey golf club where he discusses a classified document with people who were not authorized to see it.
Yesterday was a big day on the intertubes for me. During the day I went to Facebook and discovered I had a “Top Presenter” award, which I did not know was a thing.I just asked which restaurants in the Annapolis area served lobsters. Turns out several do. Then late at night I got an “Atta Girl” for my analysis of the puttie giving the speech about the coup attempt. Unless the original puttie got a medical miracle, I am pretty sure it was a double.
David Neiwert, on the Right wingers dreams of civil war in America:
I don’t think they’ll win. I don’t think they’re capable of winning, but I think a lot of people can get hurt and I think there will be a lot of people hurt by this, including them. One thing I’ve learned about right wing extremists over 30 years of covering them is that people who get involved in these movements destroy their lives. It’s one of the most toxic forces in America. It draws people into the abyss. It ruins their family relationships, ruins their relationships in the community. A lot of the time they wind up in prison.
Interview with Salon
https://www.salon.com/2023/06/27/trump-thinks-he-has-this-big-army-out-there-still-a-maga-movement-betrayed-has-now-morphed/
Pumpkin Head responds:
“The Deranged Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, working in conjunction with the DOJ & FBI, illegally leaked and “spun” a tape and transcript of me which is actually an exoneration, rather than what they would have you believe. This continuing Witch Hunt is another ELECTION INTERFERENCE Scam. They are cheaters and thugs!”
He’s in full rant all caps mode this morning:
“COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE DERANGED, TRUMP HATING JACK SMITH, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS FRIENDS, THAT AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I COME UNDER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT, AS AFFIRMED BY THE CLINTON SOCKS CASE, NOT BY THIS PSYCHOS’ FANTASY OF THE NEVER USED BEFORE ESPIONAGE ACT OF 1917. “SMITH” SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CROOKED JOE BIDDEN AND ALL OF THE CRIMES THAT HE HAS PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, INCLUDING THE MILLIONS & MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HE EXTORTED FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES!”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/politics/us-intelligence-wagner-chief/index.html
“US intelligence officials were able to gather an extremely detailed and accurate picture of Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plans leading up to his short-lived rebellion, including where and how Wagner was planning to advance, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.”
“The intelligence was so secret that within the US, it was briefed only to the most senior administration officials as well as the Gang of Eight members of Congress, who have access to the most sensitive intelligence matters.”
“Some NATO officials expressed frustration that the intelligence was not shared. But doing so would have risked compromising extremely sensitive sources and methods, sources explained. Ukrainian officials were not told about the intelligence in advance, either, officials said, due primarily to fears that conversations between US and Ukrainian officials might be intercepted by adversaries.”
Very happy that tRUMPsky wasn’t prez. He would’ve gone blabbing to Vlad.
Socks? Chelsea Clinton’s cat?
And, who is this Joe “BIDDEN” in his rant?
By his punctuation, it seems he is referring to multiple psychos. Does he mean the grand jury who indicted him? Does he realize Jack Smith did not, personally, indict him?
Why mention Mr. Smith’s family, unless you are signaling to MAGAts that he wants them targeted.?
Mob boss, Donny, is a danger to the world.
I wonder who is having a worse week, Donald or Putin?
Poot’s continued non-retaliation against the U. S. is more or less proof that he is unable to. Our intelligence services are top notch and on the ball, in spite of how much The Pumpkin tried to undermine them.
Balloo…worse week department. As they are inextricably roped together I’d think they are both suffering about the same amount of Worse-Week-itis
Well, I p’d someone off, they got me put in twit jail for three days. Not unheard of.
Well, now…..Historical parallels Dept.
Wagnerians stuck there leaderless with all weapons intact (at this point) rings an historical bell……The Ten Thousand Greek mercenaries stuck there leaderless in the middle of Persia as described in Book of the Day: ANABASIS.
I wonder if they “liberated” any collectibles from the Rostovian Armories.
Surely those Wag-normians MUST be aware of the fact that they are not likely to emerge from this romp n’ stomp with their hides intact.
“Fight your way to the SEA, Lads!”
And just to know that our intelligence people are steadily and silently and COMPETENTLY tightening the old thumb screws…..that’s entertainment.
today’s meme…
Democracy dodges bullet: Supreme Court rejects Trump Republican plan for state legislatures to take over electoral college. (But they’ve got other tricks in the works)…
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/27/supreme-court-rejects-independent-state-legislature-theory-00103793?s=01
Barack Obama on the ruling: “They rejected the fringe independent state legislature theory that threatened to upend our democracy and dismantle our system of checks and balances by giving state legislatures near-total control of federal election laws.” (CNN)
Liz Cheney, to the good folks at New York City’s Center For Culture and Arts.
“What we’ve done in our politics is create a situation where we’re electing idiots,” she said to applause from the audience.
“And so, I don’t look at it through the lens of, is this what I should do or what I shouldn’t do. I look at it through the lens of, how do we elect serious people?
Of course it’s “serious” republicans who always get us into these fixes
Well, shit.
I wonder if she thinks Reagan was a serious people.
BB, kudos to you for your comment over the weekend about not being able to take out life insurance on Pirgozhin – I saw a reel of about a half dozen pundits saying the same thing – all of whom said it after you made that comment. And from Poobah’s Politico link about SCOTUS’ NC ruling, The Supreme Court on Tuesday rebuffed a legal theory that argued that state legislatures have the authority to set election rules with little oversight from state courts, a major decision that turns away a conservative push to empower state legislatures. By a 6-3 vote, the court rejected the “independent state legislature” theory in a case about North Carolina’s congressional map. The once-fringe legal theory broadly argued that state courts have little — or no — authority to question state legislatures on election laws for federal contests. The court’s decision in Moore v. Harper closes the path to what could have been a radical overhaul of America’s election laws. A particularly robust reading of the theory — which the court turned aside — would have empowered state legislatures to make decisions on all aspects of elections, from congressional lines to how people register to vote and cast a ballot, without any opportunity for challengers to contest those decisions in state courts under state laws or constitutions. Opponents of the theory argued that it could have led to unchecked partisan gerrymandering, and laws that would make it harder for people to vote. Chief Justice John Roberts… Read more »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/supreme-court-voting-moore-v-harper-time-bomb.html Craig – Well, it sounded great until I read this part. “But Moore is not all good news. In the last part of his majority opinion for the court, the chief justice got the liberal justices to sign onto a version of judicial review that is going to give the federal courts, and especially the Supreme Court itself, the last word in election disputes. The court held that “state courts may not transgress the ordinary bounds of judicial review such that they arrogate to themselves the power vested in state legislatures to regulate federal elections.” “Make no mistake: this apparent new test would give great power to federal courts, and especially to the U.S. Supreme Court, to second guess state court rulings in the most sensitive of cases. It is going to allow for a second bite at the apple potentially in cases involving the outcome of presidential elections. In the 2020 presidential election, for example, Trump allies raised this theory in arguing that Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court could not extend the days for the receipt of absentee ballots by three days in light of the pandemic. There were not enough of these late arriving ballots to make a difference in 2020, but if there had been, according to the approach laid out in Kavanaugh’s concurrence, the U.S. Supreme Court would have had to look at Pennsylvania court precedents to decide if the state court went too far in deciding matters under its own state laws. It easily could have… Read more »
if faux friends are right, doesn’t that put him in violation of the court’s restriction limiting him to talking to anybody else but his lawyers about the evidence disclosed by DOJ discovery?
the hill:
but is it likely, if he did violate the court rule, that cannon would chastize him and punish him for contempt?
Attribution: Putin Vs. Wagner by Jeff Koterba, patreon.com/jeffreykoterba
Aren’t his ranting, idiotic tweets a violation, as well?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/27/politics/us-wagner-group-sanctions/index.html
“The US Treasury Department on Tuesday imposed sanctions on four companies involved in “gold dealing” and one person they say made “weapons deals” tied to the Wagner Group.”
“They target companies in Russia, the United Arab Emirates, and the Central African Republic that “have engaged in illicit gold dealings to fund the Wagner Group to sustain and expand its armed forces, including in Ukraine and Africa.”
I think we’ve known this for awhile. Wagner has been terrorizing folks in Africa longer than in Ukraine. Better late than never, I guess.
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