“If I were one of those in New York’s 3rd District right now, now that the election is over, and I’m finding out all of these lies that you’ve told, not just one little lie or one little embellishment — these are blatant lies — my question is, do you have no shame?” Gabbard asked while filling in for Fox News host Tucker Carlson in an interview with Santos on Tuesday evening. “Do you have no shame? And the people who are now, you’re asking to trust you to go and be their voice for them, their families and their kids in Washington?” “Tulsi, I can say the same thing about the Democrats,” Santos responded. [continues]
The George Santos scandal that House Republicans are attempting to sweep under the rug was already bad. Santos has confessed to defrauding the voters of New York’s Third Congressional District, but given how the Republican Party is being led by one of the nation’s most notorious alleged fraudsters, House Republicans were set to turn a blind eye and seat Rep. Santos anyway.
Senior House Republicans were apparently aware of the inaccuracies and embellishments in the member-elect’s resume, and the topic became a “running joke,” multiple insiders close to House GOP leadership told The Post over the weekend.
“As far as questions about George in general, that was always something that was brought up whenever we talked about this race,” said one senior GOP leadership aide. “It was a running joke at a certain point. This is the second time he’s run and these issues we assumed would be worked out by the voters.”
Kevin McCarthy and the GOP’s attitude appears to have been that if the voters didn’t catch on to Santos defrauding them, they weren’t going to do anything about it.
Since McCarthy and senior House Republicans knew that Santos was defrauding voters, this scandal is much bigger.
Our Congresses consist of Christians. In their private life they are true to every obligation of honor; yet in every session they violate them all, and do it without shame. Because honor to party is above honor to themselves.
Santos. John Heilemann is explaining the difference between embellishment and making up lies from whole cloth. Embellishment would be like claiming that my first car was a ‘68 Porsche 911 SC I wanted rather than the ‘61 Plymouth Belvedere I actually bought from my grandmother. (My example, not John’s) At least I had a car. Santos did the latter, over and over again. Education and jobs aside, question in my mind is whether he’ll pass the financial disclosure bar without being arrested.
pogo, hard to see him getting a get-out-of-jail pass considering what seems to be perjury on several fed docs reported by the hill:
Sizable personal loans from Santos to his campaign alongside a sharp jump in his reported personal wealth have led to questions about how he got his money.
Federal Election Commission filings show Santos loaned his campaign at least $580,000 during his 2022 run and nearly $80,000 during his 2020 run. In total, Santos brought in nearly $3 million from all sources during his 2022 campaign.
Financial disclosure forms filed with the House clerk in 2020 and 2022 show a sizable jump in Santos’s personal wealth during the intervening years. His 2020 financial disclosure said that he made $55,000 from LinkBridge Investors during the previous year and listed no other assets, income or liabilities.
But just two years later, Santos reported bringing in a $750,000 salary from his company, the Devolder Organization. He said in one interview that the loans to his campaign came from that salary.
He also reported holding between $1 million and $5 million in a savings account, between $100,001 and $250,000 in a checking account, and an apartment in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, valued between $500,001 and $1,000,000.
Santos formed Devolder in May 2021, according to documents filed with the Florida secretary of state. His campaign website previously said that his company managed $80 million in assets, but that claim has since been removed. The Washington Post reported that financial data company Dun & Bradstreet estimated in July 2022 that Devolder had revenue of only about $43,688. Santos’s disclosures have not revealed any clients.
patd, 2 years ago he reported no assets on his financial disclosure form. Since then he claims to have started a business worth $45,000 +/-, reports at least $1,100,000 in cash and has a $.5M apartment in Buenos Aires. That’s income of $2.1M in 2 years for a guy who was essentially penniless 2 years ago. He’d better be worried more about IRS and DOJ scrutiny than the House Ethics Committee investigation that should (but probably won’t) occur beginning in 6 days.
It’s kind of philosophically amusing to try and speculate or pin down exactly what those people WOULD feel “shame” over.
When I want to get a good mental picture of existential “shame” I remember Jimmy Lee Swaggert after his motel escapades came to light……here he’d been mocking and preaching at Jerry Lee and Mickey Lee all their damn lives and then BOOM–The Ice Cream Turns to Shit, and Jimmy Lee knows “shame” in a most satisfying way. I just know Mickey and Jerry had a few knee-slapping belly laughs over Cousin Jimmy’s dilemma. Yeah, seeing Jimmy blubbering all over the place and trying to play the piano on TV was a great picture of shame.
Pogo
An embellishment has to be believable. That your Belveder was a Porche isn’t believable. Now, that a Southern boy would be driving a Dodger Charger. That is believable. That is an embellishment.
In 1969, it was a rare Southern boy who even knew what a Porche was.
Jack
Then again in the world of lies and the damn liars that tell them. It is more important to look cool and while in the 1969 a Charger was cool. now a days not so much. Now if I was a person who worried about coolness, as I put in my teeth, hearing aid and toupee (*), yeah, man, my first car was a Porche.
* Ha, I had to google Toupee to get the correct spelling. I got a list of ads with pictures. God, folks the bald look is much better than fake hair.
Jack
Jack, point taken. Truth be told, when I was 16 (’67) I would have loved to have that Charger. The Porsche thing was a mashup from the next car I bought in ’70 – a Fiat 850 fastback. Can’t remember how I ever got interested in Euro sports cars, but I was by then – maybe had something to do with Janis’ 356, but I don’t really recall that being the origin. Anyway, that Fiat is the one that was more closely related to the Porsche I was lusting for at that time. I would have also loved to have the Austin Healy 3000 the guy across the street (who I only know in passing) had, but that wasn’t to be either.
The ongoing Florida based soap opera “The Courtship of Gabrielle” continues. We are now up to eleven speed dating suitors, but there now seems to be a strong contender in V3. He has now been allowed to move sticks around the nest and gifted his prospective lady love with one fish and one squirrel. She allowed him to sit above her on a resting limb for the night ….
I think the Euro sports cars were a 70’s thing, at least in my world. They were just way cooler looking than the boxy boats that were American cars. Not that I could afford one at the time.
Jack
jack & pogo, the one i lusted for was the ’65 mercedes 230 SL after seeing audrey hepburn and albert finney movie “two for the road”… still want one, particularly one that converts to a convertible. aah youthful dreams.
I wanted a Karmen Gia covertable. Not much on the scale of Euro hot, but just something I liked.
Last night and this morning, thank you for my dog letting me know the foxes are mating, I started to wonder about the “George Santos” story of lies. There was one thing missing, the Russian connection. There was no way this guy could do what he as doing without some sort of Moscow thread.
Well, there are two reports that he boasted to a CPAC group that he had been to Moscow many times. Since it is not in the main media I won’t put a link. When it is confirmed that will be the final piece of who this guy is. A KGB agent perhaps.
He really did say the many times to Moscow line. Great republican gqp member. Ticks all the boxes. Liar, takes mystery money (lots of mystery money), and, spends much time in Moscow. That means a russian fool, or agent, all the way up to KGB/FSB/GRU agent.
The early 80’s Pontiac Fiero was intentionally designed so that Ferrari aftermarket parts could be swapped out onto it and the owner could pretend it was a Ferrari
Bink, finding a supplier for Ferrari parts poses a challenge for your average Pontiac buyer. Someone I knew had a Fiero – back in the mid 80s, but now I can’t remember who. For an American car it looked good, but damn was the interior small. It would take a good imagination to convince yourself you were driving a Ferrari.
BB, I ha a KG convertible for a while – had a steering lash glitch that was too rich for my blood to fix at the time. And it was Ugly – Orange and black. Was fun to drive though, at least when the weather was nice during my brief ownership of it. Now my dad had a 66 KG coupe 1300 cc – White on tan – and it was gorgeous. He sold it to my sister’s ex without giving me a shot at it. Pissed me off royally.
For a lot of car enthusiasts, the next best thing to owning a Ferrari is owning a car that looks like a Ferrari. Enter the Pontiac Fiero, a mid-engine two-seat sportscar offered by General Motors from just 1984 through 1988. Given its wedge-shape and mid-engine proportions, the Fiero’s profile is similar to the mid-engine Ferrari models offered during the same era, and as a result, a common practice has been to re-body these mediocre GM products into Ferrari replicas, which brings us to today’s Autotrader find. It’s a 1986 Pontiac Fiero rebodied to look like a Ferrari 308. And it’s a pretty convincing replica, at least to this casual Ferrari enthusiast.
You can have one for less than $10k, but it will be a 35 year old Pontiac with 100 fewer horsepower than its Ferrari cousin. But for $80-240k less … could be a fun weekend ride. Reminiscent of be beetle – Porsche 356 conversions.
thread subtitle:
Kevin McCarthy And Senior House Republicans Implicated In George Santos Fraud (substack.com)
Our Congresses consist of Christians. In their private life they are true to every obligation of honor; yet in every session they violate them all, and do it without shame. Because honor to party is above honor to themselves.
Mark Twain
Santos. John Heilemann is explaining the difference between embellishment and making up lies from whole cloth. Embellishment would be like claiming that my first car was a ‘68 Porsche 911 SC I wanted rather than the ‘61 Plymouth Belvedere I actually bought from my grandmother. (My example, not John’s) At least I had a car. Santos did the latter, over and over again. Education and jobs aside, question in my mind is whether he’ll pass the financial disclosure bar without being arrested.
pogo, hard to see him getting a get-out-of-jail pass considering what seems to be perjury on several fed docs reported by the hill:
patd, 2 years ago he reported no assets on his financial disclosure form. Since then he claims to have started a business worth $45,000 +/-, reports at least $1,100,000 in cash and has a $.5M apartment in Buenos Aires. That’s income of $2.1M in 2 years for a guy who was essentially penniless 2 years ago. He’d better be worried more about IRS and DOJ scrutiny than the House Ethics Committee investigation that should (but probably won’t) occur beginning in 6 days.
his defense
It’s kind of philosophically amusing to try and speculate or pin down exactly what those people WOULD feel “shame” over.
When I want to get a good mental picture of existential “shame” I remember Jimmy Lee Swaggert after his motel escapades came to light……here he’d been mocking and preaching at Jerry Lee and Mickey Lee all their damn lives and then BOOM–The Ice Cream Turns to Shit, and Jimmy Lee knows “shame” in a most satisfying way. I just know Mickey and Jerry had a few knee-slapping belly laughs over Cousin Jimmy’s dilemma. Yeah, seeing Jimmy blubbering all over the place and trying to play the piano on TV was a great picture of shame.
Pogo
An embellishment has to be believable. That your Belveder was a Porche isn’t believable. Now, that a Southern boy would be driving a Dodger Charger. That is believable. That is an embellishment.
In 1969, it was a rare Southern boy who even knew what a Porche was.
Jack
The party of old grab ’em by the privates has learned their lessons well, eh?
Then again in the world of lies and the damn liars that tell them. It is more important to look cool and while in the 1969 a Charger was cool. now a days not so much. Now if I was a person who worried about coolness, as I put in my teeth, hearing aid and toupee (*), yeah, man, my first car was a Porche.
* Ha, I had to google Toupee to get the correct spelling. I got a list of ads with pictures. God, folks the bald look is much better than fake hair.
Jack
I had hair when I needed it…….lol
Jack, point taken. Truth be told, when I was 16 (’67) I would have loved to have that Charger. The Porsche thing was a mashup from the next car I bought in ’70 – a Fiat 850 fastback. Can’t remember how I ever got interested in Euro sports cars, but I was by then – maybe had something to do with Janis’ 356, but I don’t really recall that being the origin. Anyway, that Fiat is the one that was more closely related to the Porsche I was lusting for at that time. I would have also loved to have the Austin Healy 3000 the guy across the street (who I only know in passing) had, but that wasn’t to be either.
The ongoing Florida based soap opera “The Courtship of Gabrielle” continues. We are now up to eleven speed dating suitors, but there now seems to be a strong contender in V3. He has now been allowed to move sticks around the nest and gifted his prospective lady love with one fish and one squirrel. She allowed him to sit above her on a resting limb for the night ….
I think the Euro sports cars were a 70’s thing, at least in my world. They were just way cooler looking than the boxy boats that were American cars. Not that I could afford one at the time.
Jack
jack & pogo, the one i lusted for was the ’65 mercedes 230 SL after seeing audrey hepburn and albert finney movie “two for the road”… still want one, particularly one that converts to a convertible. aah youthful dreams.
Patd
One of my all time favorite movies. The last line is a classic and the theme song one of the best ever written.
2023 – is looking good.
It is the Chinese Year of the Water Rabbit
The sign of Rabbit is a symbol of longevity, peace, and prosperity in Chinese culture. 2023 is predicted to be a year of hope.
https://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/chinese-zodiac/rabbit.htm#:~:text=2023%20is%20a%20year%20of,and%20prosperity%20in%20Chinese%20culture.
I wanted a Karmen Gia covertable. Not much on the scale of Euro hot, but just something I liked.
Last night and this morning, thank you for my dog letting me know the foxes are mating, I started to wonder about the “George Santos” story of lies. There was one thing missing, the Russian connection. There was no way this guy could do what he as doing without some sort of Moscow thread.
Well, there are two reports that he boasted to a CPAC group that he had been to Moscow many times. Since it is not in the main media I won’t put a link. When it is confirmed that will be the final piece of who this guy is. A KGB agent perhaps.
He really did say the many times to Moscow line. Great republican gqp member. Ticks all the boxes. Liar, takes mystery money (lots of mystery money), and, spends much time in Moscow. That means a russian fool, or agent, all the way up to KGB/FSB/GRU agent.
The early 80’s Pontiac Fiero was intentionally designed so that Ferrari aftermarket parts could be swapped out onto it and the owner could pretend it was a Ferrari
it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
Tv shows just don’t have legit well-crafted songs anymore like they used to
Money-grubbing liars are always an appropriate representation of Americans, Santos will do well in Congress
“Vain, vapid, and overly-concerned with appearances” seems like an apt description of a lot of Lawn Guylanders i’ve met, DC fucks, too
ok Happy Holidays! 😁
patd, all the MB SLs are awfully appealing.
Bink, finding a supplier for Ferrari parts poses a challenge for your average Pontiac buyer. Someone I knew had a Fiero – back in the mid 80s, but now I can’t remember who. For an American car it looked good, but damn was the interior small. It would take a good imagination to convince yourself you were driving a Ferrari.
BB, I ha a KG convertible for a while – had a steering lash glitch that was too rich for my blood to fix at the time. And it was Ugly – Orange and black. Was fun to drive though, at least when the weather was nice during my brief ownership of it. Now my dad had a 66 KG coupe 1300 cc – White on tan – and it was gorgeous. He sold it to my sister’s ex without giving me a shot at it. Pissed me off royally.
https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/autotrader-find-1986-pontiac-fiero-ferrari-308-replica
i don’t make this shit up, only an enthusiast would be able to tell the car pictured in that in that link isn’t a Ferrari and is actually a Pontiac
“fee-air-oh” :: “feh-rahr-ee”
The only equivalently blatant rip-offs are the mid-2010s Fords that stole the aesthetics (that’s how to spell that, Elon) from Aston Martin
Ok, time to subject my family to the misery sobriety begets ✌️
the holidays when you’re drunk:
the holidays when you’re not:
https://youtu.be/4N3N1MlvVc4
The Lone Ranger Story
And of course Ferrari took offense.
You can have one for less than $10k, but it will be a 35 year old Pontiac with 100 fewer horsepower than its Ferrari cousin. But for $80-240k less … could be a fun weekend ride. Reminiscent of be beetle – Porsche 356 conversions.
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