
(Today, all times EST)
5:45 a.m. — funeral procession begins from the Palace of Westminster to Westminster Abbey
6 a.m. — funeral service begins at Westminster Abbey
7 a.m.– funeral service ends, followed by procession to Windsor
11 a.m. — Committal Service will take place in St George’s Chapel; The service will be conducted by the Dean of Windsor
2:30 p.m. — A private burial will take place in The King George VI Memorial Chapel

You don’t have to be a monarchist to be an Elizabethan.
I shall be awake at 2:00 am to prove that. The music should be wonderful.
Just made a pot of coffee. Have binged all week on all things royal. Heck, even watched an hour long documentary on Victoria’s son Edward VII. He was a MESS (weird fact: he had an affair with Churchill’s mother, who dumped him to get married)
Good Morning Craig
Edward VII probably held off the first World War until after his death. His son George V helped bring it on, not to mention murder of the Russian Royal family. Then the actions after may have led directly to WW II. Not one of the better periods in British history.
I’m finding the treatment of Prince Harry to be rather petty and proof of the charges of racism that emerged after he and Meghan left the UK.
OldMan, that’s a lotta bears if it takes 3-4 to make just one of those hats. no wonder there’re so few black bears around these days. didn’t the chinese use chow dogs for their hats (that is, after those poor doggies were old and no longer useful for food and for military battle or were only young ones converted to hats)?
Nice to see George and Charlotte in procession. Thought they weren’t going to be there.
I dunno Jamie. They chose to leave “the firm”. Them’s the rules
as much as the Irisher he is and wouldn’t countenance the thought, Joe and Charlie III sure resemble each other (except for the nose), close enough to be family. must have been a randy royal or two rampant in olde Éire.
Considering modern architecture, it’s hard to imagine a bldg as magnificent as the Abbey first in use over a 1000 years ago and the last changes over a 150 years ago.
Westminster Abbey | Facts, History, Burials, & Architecture | Britannica
Craig
Yes they left the firm but they did it because of the horrendous treatment of the media. For these events as her grandson, it wouldn’t have killed them to treat Harry equally as the member of the family that he still is before returning to the role of “non-working” royal. It is just so obvious in the visuals with any of the other family members.
chilling story today on the about-to-be-published Handbook of the Boy Louts of America
Proud Boys memo reveals meticulous planning for ‘street-level violence’ | The far right | The Guardian
Been to Abbey twice. My fave spot is Poets Corner where Dickens buried
don’t mean to be disrespectful of Liz II (a fine lady, good mom, dog/horse lover and superb inspiration for her countrymen and the rest of us), but couldn’t pass up these ‘toons on the current events of the day in the good ole u.s. of a.
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the memory most lasting of the Abbey for me is the eerie sound that echoes down from great vaulted ceilings, the sounds of centuries.
Patd
If anyone is still in mourning following the funeral, there is an Elizabeth II bobblehead. I’m sure Craig will rush right out and get one for his collection. 🙂
Queen Elizabeth II Bobbleheads – National Bobblehead HOF Store (bobbleheadhall.com)
They say this is her personal bagpiper who woke her up every morning at Balmoral. Heck of an alarm clock
For a funeral the bagpiper plays “Flowers of the Forest”.
It gets mentioned in this great song: Green Hills of France
It appears that the schedule posted on the prior thread and this one shifted from eastern daylight time at 6 AM to London standard time at 12 PM.
I do have to give the British one thing; if they don’t do anything else well, they do great funerals.
I fixed that earlier Pogo. Got it from Time and they screwed it up
The last song played by the piper today was “Sleep, dearie, sleep,” a traditional lament, was played on the bagpipes at the end of Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral service.
“Sodger, lie doon on yer wee pickle straw / It’s no very broad and it’s no very braw / But, Sodger, it’s better than naething at a’, / Sae sleep, Sodger, sleep.”
Yikes someone should tell the people at NBC that silence is golden
Liz’s uncle never meant to abdicate. It was a total bluff, he really thought they’d all give in and he could marry that woman and still be king. He lost and then had to go thru with it. He was also a would-be nazi.
Another wild detail. Some of the flowers on coffin were propagated from her wedding bouquet
A long time ago I read an article about why there would never be another king Charles. It was about how losing the American colonies was such a blow that no one would ever want to be a king Charles. There was even a little blurb in the hours before Charles decided to be king Charles that he would name himself some other name. Oh well, blue bloods are different from you and me.
KGC, I have found BBC much more respectful about limiting the chatter
Every time i hear a football game on in the background, all the quarterbacks sound like Belushi and Pryor doing their Samurai characters.
BBC much better
Yes, and they have more guests who actually knew her, with personal stories
Oak leaves on coffin wreath from trees that date back to William the Conqueror 11th Century
this may be the last hurrah for the “great” in great britain if more than expected of the colonies decide to dump or depart the monarchy and the “united” part of the UK. straightening out the troubles with brexit vis a vis northern ireland is also a speed bump ahead for them.
They sure treat Harry like shit after he served in Afghanistan, bunch of inbreds
Royal rules. The 2 members of the royal family who served in war zones are the 2 who aren’t allowed to wear their uniforms because they aren’t “working” royals. Stupid rules.
Charles let them wear uniforms at vigil but had Queen’s initials taken off
Anne gets uniform but didn’t serve at all, just got honorary Navy title
lol, Charles drunk with power already, that’s his son he’s punishing for marrying the woman he loved
No wonder trump wants to be king, a little velvet and a touch of gold and people lose their goddamned minds
The Anglican service is so beautiful it’s almost enough to make me wish I weren’t agnostic.
BB
King at time of Declaration of Independence was King George III. Charles I was the one who got his head lopped off.
https://youtu.be/lh4mDKnijlI
Hey, Bink, it is all about rank, and Harry has no rank, He is just that bitch’s child. Which is probably why I cut Harry more slack than he deserves.
Jack
Meanwhile real people are still fighting and dying
From the ISW web site
Jack
Hope you’re staying cool and doing well, Mr. J 🫡
Slava Ukraine
Well that’s over. Now we can get back to putting Trump in jail
Her Corgis attended commitment service
i think we need to be thinking more about how we can help Ukraine recover. Could we send in seebees now to at least start cleaning up especially abandoned munitions.
KGC, good idea and in the meantime or simultaneously they can start helping rebuild Puerto Rico’s infrastructure.
There’s a new king in town………
Pat
It may be possible to rebuild Ukraine, I’m not certain about Puerto Rico, then there is the Texas grid, California….
Jack
Catchy, sturg, everybody’s talking ’bout the new king in town.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/19/americas/tsunami-warning-follows-major-quake-in-mexico-intl-latam/index.html
“A 7.7-magnitude earthquake off the southwestern coast of Mexico in Michoacan state on Monday has prompted tsunami warnings…”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/19/health/maternal-mortality-preventable-cdc/index.html
“For more than 4 out of 5 women who died during pregnancy, during delivery or up to a year postpartum — more than 84% — death could have been avoided with “reasonable changes” by health care providers, the community, the patient or others.”
“The analysis captures a period of time before the Covid-19 pandemic and before the US Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade and the federal right to an abortion. Since then, maternal mortality in the US has gotten worse.”
“The US is an outlier when it comes to maternal mortality, with rates that are many times higher than those of other wealthy nations.”
“…the Biden administration’s “Blueprint for Addressing the Maternal Health Crisis” that launched in June.”
“…about more than half of pregnancy-related deaths (53%) happened more than a week after birth. About 1 in 5 (22%) women died during pregnancy, and about 1 in 8 (13%) died the day of delivery.”
“Mental health conditions were the leading cause of pregnancy-related deaths, involved in more than 1 in 5 deaths among pregnant women and new mothers. For Black women, heart conditions were the most common cause of death, and hemorrhage was the most common cause for Asian women.”
ps – Republicans do not want to talk about abortion rights; they want you to focus on brown people at the border.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/19/us/bexar-county-texas-migrant-investigation/index.html
“A Texas sheriff said Monday evening his agency will open an investigation into the transportation of 48 Venezuelan migrants from the state to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts.”
“…his understanding was that on Wednesday a Venezuelan migrant was paid a “bird dog fee” to recruit 50 migrants from a resource center in San Antonio.”
“The sheriff said he believes laws were not only broken in Bexar County in transporting nearly 50 migrants to Martha’s Vineyard but that parallel laws were also broken on the federal side.”
“A total of 48 migrants were “lured” to a hotel where they were housed for two days, according to Salazar.
The migrants were flown to Florida and then later transported to Martha’s Vineyard under “false pretenses,” he said.
“The sheriff said they were flown to Martha’s Vineyard for “a photo-op and stranded.” He believes the migrants were “exploited and hoodwinked” into making the trip for political posturing.”
“The sheriff has been speaking with an attorney who represents some of the migrants for first-hand accounts of what took place, Salazar told reporters. The allegations that he has heard thus far are “disgusting and a violation of human rights,” he said.
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has claimed credit for flying the migrants to Martha’s Vineyard. In a Friday news conference, DeSantis said that everyone signed waivers and knew where they were going. “It’s obvious that’s where they were going,” he said, adding, “It’s all voluntary.”
Oh, I do hope DuhSantis broke both state and federal laws. He’s on the record as taking credit for being an inhumane asshat in propagating this stunt.
ps – Republicans do not want folks talking about abortion rights; they want the focus to be on brown people at the border.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/17/texas-youth-summit-culture-war/
“…Grace Woodlands church was peppered with red MAGA hats on Saturday, as young adults gathered to hear from leading conservatives often seen on Fox News.”
Take away Grace Woodland’s tax exemption!
“…tables hawking shirts that read, “Let the revolution begin” or “Freedom is never more than one generation from tyranny.”
“…the summit’s slogan says, “to be the catalysts to win the Culture War.”
So, it’s basically a nazi, youth rally.
“Speakers included Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Donald Trump Jr., talk show host Candace Owens and U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, who wore a pistol strapped to her leg as she addressed the hall.”
All of the usual suspects.
“U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz also spoke, the same day the Washington Post reported that he sought a preemptive pardon from President Donald Trump related to a sex trafficking investigation. “…he urged the young people in attendance to fight for conservative causes.”
“The summit was founded by Christian Collins, a former political staffer for Cruz and U.S. Rep. Kevin Brady. Registration for the event, which was supported through donations and sponsorships from businesses like the right-wing cellphone company Patriot Mobile…”
“According to its website, the summit strives to “identify, educate, and train students to promote principles of fiscal responsibility, free market, limited government, American Exceptionalism and the Judeo-Christian principles this country was founded on.”
“The Left controls the education system, TV networks, Hollywood, and social media and they are influencing youth,” the website reads. ”
Really? Because it’s the Republicans who are banning books and prohibiting teachers from discussing history and current events if they relate to certain issues.
Really? Because Republicans have several ~news~ outlets to propagate their lies.
Really? Because strict, conservative parents prohibit their kids from social media and entertainment that doesn’t align with their fascist worldview. They are the adults who referred their kids for indoctrination into Orange Adolf’s nazi movement.
“…free for students ages 12 through 26, as long as they submitted a reference from an adult confirming “their interest in conservative politics.” Adults were able to buy a ticket.
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