A prayer for peace

What can I say, it has been one of those weeks

Dona Nobis Pacem from the B minor Mass by Johann Sebastian Bach

English Baroque Soloists & Monteverdi Choir

Conducted by John Eliot Gardiner Show more

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58 thoughts on “A prayer for peace”

  7. Time: this morning, Location the street where yesterdays demonstration/riot originated.
    It is called civilized behavior, thankyou Beverly for making my city a better place to live.

  8. aside from the many other reasons for the ongoing protests, don’t forget one of the most vile reasons which is to foment a race war.  some history and an update as reported back in dec in wapo:

    Today, “The Turner Diaries” is circulated online. Mobs no longer gather on horseback but on college campuses or, more often, on anonymous Internet message boards.
    Although it has evolved somewhat over time, the idea of race war is a common thread that connects the Klan to Charles Manson and Dylann Roof, Lane said.
    “Race war is an idea that emerges at certain points in American history and fades at others,” Breen said. “What has made it such a powerful idea, however, is not some real danger of a race war itself, but the politically useful nature of these charges. Politicians have used racially inflammatory rhetoric like this to help them attain power, whether by mobilizing one’s base or suppressing their opponents, but long after the last ballots have been counted, the legacy of the racial demagoguery remains.”

  10. don’t think it’s not lost on the white supremacists the extra weapon they are employing, the spread of a virus that kills more persons of color by percentage of population.  encouraging even peaceful protests packed with shouting and singing of thousands of unmasked folk is a strategy too to accomplish their genocidal goals. 

  11. Pat
    White nationalists didn’t organize these events and for the most part didn’t participate. At most they took advantage of the chaos created by others.
    Jack

  13. OMG Jack… that is beautiful!
     
    tiptoe…  thanks!
     
    CBob’s words seem appropriate here….  but hell….  we’d better buckle up a lot more than chinstraps.

  14. One tooter’s informed opinion.
    I just got off the phone with my buddy in LA, who’s with the LAPD. He said that a majority of the protesters are being completely peaceful. He says that it’s these “others” showing up armed with bottles and weapons, looking for a fight, not even there to protest. They are MAGATs

  15. The word is out among the magas that they NEED this “race war”. They don’t just welcome it, they need it, so they will foment it.
    The Great God, Necessity.

  16. Sturge, yet the MAGATts think they need this.  More ad more repubes are sick of the dictator and Biden is pulling way ahead in the polls.  But then again we though Hillary was a sure bet.
     
    So the dictator’s LEGACY is a plague, crashed stock market, depression level unemployment, and race riots.   Couldn’t happen to a greater guy!  *gag*
     
    Nero was fiddling while Rome was burning.  The dictator was at a rocket launching while the country was burning.  Maybe golfing too?

  17. National Security Asshole Robert O’Brien blames antifa, other officials not so much:

    As unrest continued in Minneapolis on Saturday following the death of George Floyd during his detention by city police, leaders at the federal, state and local levels said large numbers of outsiders had seized upon protests begun by Minnesotans to advance their own political agendas.

    But the officials offered little evidence to show who was responsible and contradicted one another on who was to blame.
     

    They variously assigned responsibility for the escalating violence to far-right nationalists, left-wing radicals, drug cartels and possibly foreign agents in statements, news conferences and presidential tweets.
    (Continues)

    Funny, aside from O’brien saying Chauvin is a dirty cop, none of the officials seem to blame police overreach and overreaction – explanations are “Someone, anyone but not the cops.” so I’ll provide that viewpoint. 

  19. One thing these protest organizers could use is “event planning 101” Given the week, if you called for a demonstration yesterday you knew you were calling for a riot. If you didn’t want one then you should have planned for security to calm your supporters. F*ck even the stoned hippies at a rainbow celebration understand you have to have security. Oh and one other thing the hippie do, they clean up after themselves. 
    Jack

  21. Lets not just place all the blame on one police officer. While he had his knee on the neck  there were 7 or 8  other officers who knew it was all being filmed and not a one of them even came over and said “maybe you shouldn’t be doing that”. In other words it was situation normal, proper protocol. It is a department problem not a bad apple problem.
    Jack 

  22. It’s entirely possible that this administration will drive Justice Roberts over the line to “liberal”.  The other maga judges sold out long ago to Old Scratch. but his ass is dead on the line here, historically.

  23. Happy Birthday to Walt Whitman

    Oh me! Oh life! of the questions of these recurring,
    Of the endless trains of the faithless, of cities fill’d with the foolish,
    Of myself forever reproaching myself, (for who more foolish than I, and who more faithless?)
    Of eyes that vainly crave the light, of the objects mean, of the struggle ever renew’d,
    Of the poor results of all, of the plodding and sordid crowds I see around me,
    Of the empty and useless years of the rest, with the rest me intertwined,
    The question, O me! so sad, recurring—What good amid these, O me, O life?

     

  24. Pat
    That cartoon trivializes what happened  in Minneapolis. IMO, Just sayin’
    Jack 

  25. Yes, all those officers are equally as culpable as chauvin; but he’s the one who elected to “take a knee” for all those who would have liked to see that the  kaepernickians get the message.
    Posing over his kill.

  26. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/rent-coronavirus-reopening/index.htmlCongress needs to step in with more stimulus money.   States need to keep moratoriums on evictions.  Black communities are more likely un or under-employed.   COVID is still with us. Do something now.
    Camden, NJ police walked in solidarity with protestors.  That’s how ya do it.   How you don’t do it is by protecting bad cops, letting them stay on the force as complaints pile up, and when they kill someone in cold blood,  give them the lightest sentence you can, or maybe none at all.  Can it please be November, already? 

  27. sturg – Except  if the  magaTs  think a race war will push folks toward tRump, they are wrong.   He’s made a big mess of everything, takes no responsibility, and, lies constantly.   Folks are looking for serious grownups to fix some serious grownup things.   tRump, the  tyrant toddler is a worthless, simpering, tiny-fisted loser.  

  28. Sturge, if it hadn’t been him it would have been somebody else.
     
    Jack

  30. This Mother Jones piece about the Minneapolis police union’s president explains a lot of the problem. Stuff like that in the public sector unions is why I’m not a knee jerk union supporter.
    Jack

  31. SFB is just looking for an opportunity to suspend elections.   Civil unrest is an opportunity for martial law.  We may never get to vote again.

  32. Thanks for reposting the vid of Minneapolis scumbag cops assaulting with firearms a family that was peacefully standing on their porch.  Fire the whole department.

  34. I feel sorry for Amy K  the matter of her record as a prosecutor is not as simple as is being presented.
    There no doubt there is nothing she can say that wouldn’t make it worse.

  35. KGC
    As much as I would have liked to see Amy as the VP. The facts are that she was part of the problem at one time. This has been going on a long time.
    Jack

  36. jack, that image of trump destroying America aided and abetted by enablers is in no way trivializing mr. Floyd’s murder by a policeman aided and abetted by his fellow officers nor is it trivializing the 103,000 avoidable deaths on trump’s hands.    

  37. Jack
    Amy was never going to be vp.   But she didn’t need Clyburn’s remarks either.
     

  38. PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — All retail establishments in Philadelphia have been ordered to close immediately by the city. This comes as the citywide curfew will now go into effect at 6 p.m. tonight and last until 6 a.m. Monday.
    Any business owners or community members helping to secure businesses or clean up vandalized properties must finish those activities and return home by 5 p.m.” the city said in a tweet.
    […]
    All streets in Center City have been shut down in order to clean up the destruction from last night and in case any protests ensue.
    The Ben Franklin Bridge has also been closed in both directions until further notice.

  40. i had the same reaction as Jack to that cartoon, patd.  No big deal, there exists no right to not be offended.

  41. Protest on Fifth Ave moving uptown.  Hmmm, what’s up there? A gauche, fake-gold building.

  42. The union is part of the MPD problem, but getting rid of the union won’t change the culture of 1. ‘band of brothers’, 2. ‘it’s a war out there’, 3. ‘it’s us vs them.’ The culture is 120 years old. I don’t think that it will change w/o 1. recruiting local youth to join the PD, 2. having police (at least the street patrollers) live in the city, 3. replace police employees on precinct at a time, to prevent cultural contamination. 
    The figures from the St Paul indicate one St Paulite arrested, 8 from out of state, 48 from elsewhere in Minnesota. I doubt that there was a concerted effort by bad actors to perform together. Instead, I figure that young guys from here and there heard about the demonstrations and said to themselves and one or two friends, “Let’s go make some aggro.” 
    Checks of cars w/o license plates parked in the area found stockpiles of stones & bottles, several sidearms, and a couple ar-15s. 
    The first arrest were racist skinheads from MI. I have no idea how many others were racist. I have heard plenty of racism and religious bigotry expressed alleged Black Lives Matter representatives here in the TC, but I don’t think it actually represents the views of most BLM supporters. 
    Besides hitting University Avenue, the vandals trashed some businesses on Grand Avenue. That latter was very close to the ‘big old barn in the inner city woods’ where Sweetie and I lived for 20 years, plus another 11 years elsewhere in the hood. We lived about a mile south of University and 4 to 5 blocks north of Grand. 
     
    The entire riot in St Paul was crime of opportunity, unrelated to grief or anger about George Floyd. St Paul police ( for all their faults) had nothing to do with the Floyd murder, and do not oppress people the way Mpls police have done for a century. If anything, the SPPD is inclined to let troubles work themselves out rather than burst in with nightstick whirling and guns blazing. When I lived there the biggest problem with the police was failure to intervene in neighborhood incidents unless dope or killing was involved. Repeated complaints about bad behavior loud music in the middle of the night, incessant horn honking, etc, sometimes resulted in police ticketing the complainants, rather than the disorderly people.

    Anywhat, the St Paul PD, with whom I had a rocky relationship since July, 1967, tend to under- enforce. Mpls cops tend to show who is boss whenever possible.

  45. Civilian Review Boards are the best and first step to police dept reform

  46. Also, I haven’t seen complete figures on those arrested in Mpls. I did read that about 7-8 prisoners were refusing to divulge their identities.  

  48. Civilian review boards tend to get stuffed with police relatives and retired policemen. 
    Mpls has had a civilian review board for decades, and the County Attorney/Grand Jury has been tougher on police misbehavior. The city of Mpls has paid out an average of more than $9M!LL!ON$/per annum for police misbehavior for the last 20 years. It’s not that much money for a big city, but for a city of only 430,000 people, it’s huge : more than $20 per man, woman, and suckling babe ! In 2019 they paid $20M!LL!ON$ for the Justine Ruszczyk killing alone. What a waste of human life and taxpayer’s money.

  49. I spent a total of 20 years working for the defense. I am prejudiced.  
     
     

  50. Aggressively recruit more black police officers and provide them incentives to join. 

  51. There is that problem of conflicted appointments but that can be over come

  53. Incent ALL cops with cash rewards for good moral conduct and community-engagement, and generously compensate them for intensive sensitivity and conflict-resolution training.  Make taking training courses as lucrative for the individual officer as providing security at a bar on a Saturday off-duty night.

  55. I picked up dinner tonight and then I drove over to the waterfront park to sit and eat my dinner in my car. I went for a walk after dinner. When I got back by the park, there were maybe 100 people or so marching from the park, heading towards downtown Holland. It was a peaceful march. It lasted for maybe a half an hour or so.

  56. The Mpls police had a 3 year long program of sensitivity training. I don’t know if it made a dent in their cop culture. I kinda think that once the cops got out of the classroom they re-bonded with each other under the cultural cues of Us vs Them, It’s a Jungle Out There, and Band of Brothers (Don’t Tell !)

  57. With all this, in case anyone has forgotten, 106,000 Americans have died in the last 4 months as SFB and his administration has diddled and distracted from anything related to the death count from COVID 19 and his administration’s diddling and his fecklessness and dishonesty. 
    I hear they hustled the big pussy to the bunker in the WH because of the protests in Lafayette Park. Tough guy. 

  58. Labelling antifa as terrorist : a PRO-FA* Gummint Decree. 
    *PRO-FA = pro-FATTY.

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