Sanders Rips “Capitalist” Warren

Bernie Sanders draws contrast with Elizabeth Warren: She says “she is a capitalist through her bones. I’m not.” – – ABC News

He left out the other difference: She’s a Democrat and he’s not.

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61 thoughts on “Sanders Rips “Capitalist” Warren”

  1. nicest thing the bern ever did for the party.  sorta deflects from the dems and totally adopts for himself  the socialism bugaboo the GOPers are using as a scary warning.

    thanks Bernie.

  2. nothing like stirring up the nutballs for more mayhem

    the guardian:

    A mocked-up video depicting US president Donald Trump stabbing and shooting his political opponents and the media has reportedly been shown at a meeting of the president’s supporters at his Miami resort.
    The New York Times reported on Sunday that the video, which has since been posted on Twitter, shows a scene from Kingsman: The Secret Service, edited to appear as though Trump is stabbing and opening fire on people and news organisations in a church.
    The targets include CNN, Politico, Black Lives Matter, the BBC, the Guardian, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, Hillary Clinton, the late senator John McCain, Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama and others inside the “Church of Fake News”.
    Since his 2016 election win, Trump has frequently described media outlets reporting on him as the “fake news media” and the “enemy of the people”.
    The video appears to be created by TheGeekzTeam on YouTube, a pro-Trump channel that has a long history of creating video mashups in support of the 45th president. The video in question was posted to the channel in July 2018.
    According to the Times, the video was shown last week at the American Priority conference at Doral Miami resort. Speakers at the event included Donald Trump Jr and former White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
    One of the event organisers, Alex Phillips told the Times that he denounced the video and was looking into how it was played at the event.
    In a statement on Thursday, CNN said the video was “vile and horrific”.
    “Sadly, this is not the first time that supporters of the president have promoted violence against the media in a video they apparently find entertaining – but it is by far and away the worst,” CNN said in a tweeted statement.
    “The president and his family, the White House, and the Trump campaign need to denounce it immediately in the strongest possible terms. Anything less equates to a tacit endorsement of violence and should not be tolerated by anyone.”
    The White House Correspondents Association said it was “horrified” by the video and “all Americans should condemn this depiction of violence directed towards journalists and his political opponents”.
    “We have previously told the president his rhetoric could incite violence. Now we call on him and everybody associated with this conference to denounce this video and affirm that violence has no place in our society.”
    Beto O’Rourke condemned the video on Twitter, saying: “This video isn’t funny. It will get people killed.”
    A spokesperson for Trump told the Times that the video had nothing to do with Trump’s re-election campaign and the campaign does not condone violence.

  3. NYTimes:

    DOHUK, Iraq — Kurdish forces long allied with the United States in Syria announced a new deal on Sunday with the government in Damascus, a sworn enemy of Washington that is backed by Russia, as Turkish troops moved deeper into their territory and President Trump ordered the withdrawal of the American military from northern Syria.
    The sudden shift marked a major turning point in Syria’s long war.
    For five years, United States policy relied on collaborating with the Kurdish-led forces both to fight the Islamic State and to limit the influence of Iran and Russia, which support the Syrian government, with a goal of maintaining some leverage over any future settlement of the conflict.
    On Sunday, after Mr. Trump abruptly abandoned that approach, American leverage appeared all but gone. That threatened to give President Bashar al-Assad and his Iranian and Russian backers a free hand. It also jeopardized hard-won gains against the Islamic State — and potentially opened the door for its return.
    The Kurds’ deal with Damascus paved the way for government forces to return to the country’s northeast for the first time in years to try to repel a Turkish invasion launched after the Trump administration pulled American troops out of the way. The pullout has already unleashed chaos and bloodletting.

    [continues]

  6. jamie, so true.   no need, however, to wonder though about where he’s heading with his Russian bromance.  very very clear that whatever vlad wants, vlad gets –  which includes more than a toehold in the middle east.

  7. by the way, HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY!

    npr:

    On Monday in the nation’s capital, there is no Columbus Day. The D.C. Council voted to replace it with Indigenous Peoples’ Day in a temporary move that it hopes to make permanent. Several other places across the United States have also made the switch in a growing movement to end the celebration of the Italian explorer in favor of honoring Indigenous communities and their resiliency in the face of violence by European explorers like Christopher Columbus.
    Baley Champagne is responsible for that change in her home state of Louisiana. The tribal citizen of the United Houma Nation petitioned the governor, John Bel Edwards, to change the day. He did, along with several other states this year.
    “It’s become a trend,” Champagne said. “It’s about celebrating people instead of thinking about somebody who actually caused genocide on a population or tried to cause the genocide of an entire population. By bringing Indigenous Peoples’ Day, we’re bringing awareness that we’re not going to allow someone like that to be glorified into a hero, because of the hurt that he caused to Indigenous people of America.”
    […]
    There’s no comprehensive list of places that have switched, but at least 10 states now celebrate some version of Indigenous Peoples’ Day on the second Monday in October, like Hawaii’s Discoverers’ Day or South Dakota’s Native Americans’ Day. Many college campuses have dumped Columbus Day for Indigenous Peoples’ Day as have more than 100 cities, towns and counties across the country.
    For Native Americans, Columbus Day has long been hurtful. It conjures the violent history of 500 years of colonial oppression at the hands of European explorers and those who settled here — a history whose ramifications and wounds still run deep today.
    […]
    The shift isn’t happening without some pushback. For many Italian Americans, Columbus Day is their day to celebrate Italian heritage and the contributions of Italian Americans to the United States. It was adopted at a time when Italians were vilified and faced religious and ethnic discrimination. The first commemoration came in 1892, a year after a mass lynching of 11 Italian Americans by a mob in New Orleans. Italian Americans latched onto the day as a way to mainstream and humanize themselves in the face of rampant discrimination. It became a national holiday in 1934 to honor a man who, ironically, never set foot in the United States. Columbus anchored in the Bahamas.
    For many Italian Americans, Columbus Day isn’t just about the man but about what the day represents: a people searching for safety and acceptance in their new home.
    […]
    “Indigenous children are going to school and being forced to hear about and celebrate the person who set in motion the genocide of their people,” Speed said. “That’s incredibly painful. It creates an ongoing harm. And so we can’t have a national holiday that creates an ongoing harm for a significant portion of our citizens.”
    […]
    Indigenous peoples first proposed the day during a 1977 United Nations conference on discrimination against them. But it wasn’t until 1989 that South Dakota became the first state to switch Columbus Day to Native Americans’ Day, celebrating it for the first time in 1990. And then Berkeley became the first U.S. city to switch to Indigenous Peoples’ Day. The Pew Research Center says Columbus Day is the most inconsistently observed national holiday in the United States.
    “Certainly the hundreds and thousands of Italian immigrants who came over in steerage class on the boats at the turn of the 19th century endured a lot of hardships to get here,” Hancock said. “But the discovery of America is something where you want to get your history right. And I think that to fully understand and take responsibility for who we are as a people in this land made it very important to be clear about who was here first and reflect on what happened in our history after that, in terms of the displacement and oftentimes genocide of those people. How that might have reflected a general discounting of the history and the humanity of nonwhite people of many kinds in this country and to take responsibility for our history.”

  8. had to LOL at this description quoted in Wapo today of British legislative body status.  sounds a lot like our current congressional critterville substituting “trump” for “Brexit”.

    But Johnson’s own attorney general, Geoffrey Cox, has dismissed the House of Commons as a “zombie” Parliament paralyzed over Brexit — it may go on and on, but never dies. It just eats the brains of its captives. A general election looms.

  9. If I run into an indigenous person today I will tell them “Thank you got your indigenousity.”

  10. Having watched a plethora of western movies lately…..well over 100……I became aware of the fact that many of the old westerns actually did endeavor to show how shabbily the native Americans were treated by the USA, and to show how things many times led to murderous, savage, and genocidal conclusions; and tried to show that it was usually Caused by a bunch of greedy bastards in cahoots against decency and reasoned approaches to the problems at hand.

  12. Let me echo patd’s thanks to Bernie….  he just made Warren an acceptable choice to independent voters.
     
    So I see that tomorrow’s debate will have 12 candidates on the stage….   stuuuuupid.

  14. If Bernie finally gets dumped, we might hope that the media might consider some of the other candidates rather than just their chosen one.  

  15. Jamie, bet that will be beto that media blesses with leftover Bernie time.  he fits the bill of frenzied visual activity, sensational sounding soundbites and tosses in expletives to spice them up.   no country media-wise for civil informed discourse – too boring.

  16. Indigenous Peoples’ Day. Are Reparations on the Way? How about decent schools and healthcare. How about relinquishing control of purloined resources to their tribal owners? How about…how about?

  18. I see Hunter Biden is giving an interview to ABC news that will air the day of the democratic debate. Seems to me it gives Biden the perfect out. Just say: ” What can I tell you? My son is an idiot. ”
    Jack

  20. Flatus, we could start by honoring our treaty obligations with the tribes. 

    Well, I can’t speak directly about pumpkins, cuz I don’t have any, but the frost was definitely on the windshield this morning. ( But it’s hitting 70 today and forecast to hit 80 Sunday). The trees believe it’s fall – I’m on my third round of mulching maple leaves this week. 

  24. …still waiting on that advance.
     
    So, what’s the best hokey old western, after your extensive research, Mr S?  My favorite might be “Dances with Wolves”- not that old, comparably, but certainly hokey.

  25. My sentimental fave at the moment is “Hombre” with Paul Newman and Richard Boone, a pretty great bad man.
    And, written by Elmore Leonard,
    and as luck would have it, dealing in passing with the sorry plight of our Native American population. 
    not perhaps in the exact category you suggested….I’ll think on that end of the spectrum a bit.

  26. I just recently watched “Hud” with Paul Newman and Melvyn Douglas, had never heard of it until a friend recommended it as one of Newman’s best, and it is. His Strasburg training shines through.

  27. Apparently hokey sells – Dances with Wolves is the highest grossing western – at $374 M – since 1985.  

  29. One that might fit is “Tall in the Saddle” with John Wayne and Gabby Hayes…..
    Almost any Audie Murphy or Randolph Scott will fill the Bill….

  31. the hill:

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) leads former Vice President Joe Biden in Iowa and New Hampshire, but South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg has surged into contention in the Hawkeye State, according to a new poll.
    The latest Firehouse Strategies-Optimus survey finds Warren with a narrow lead in Iowa at 25 percent support, followed by Biden at 22 percent and Buttigieg at 17 percent. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has been recovering from a heart attack, is in fourth place at 5 percent in Iowa.

    Buttigieg is the biggest mover in the Iowa poll, gaining about 9 points.

    Warren’s lead is larger in New Hampshire, where she registers 25 percent support, followed by Biden at 18 percent and Sanders at 9 percent.
    Still, Biden leads big in South Carolina, where black voters make up more than half of the Democratic primary electorate. Biden comes in at 32 percent, compared to 16 percent for Warren and 8 percent for Sanders.
    Support for impeachment among Democrats in the early-voting states has skyrocketed in recent weeks, and stands at 79 percent in Iowa, 75 percent in New Hampshire and 72 percent in South Carolina, notching double-digit gains in all three states.
    In addition, a slim majority of Democrats in all three states believe that President Trump should be imprisoned, as well as impeached.
    The Firehouse-Optimus survey of 1,765 likely Democratic primary voters was conducted Oct. 8-10 and has a margin of error of 3.6 percentage points in each state.

  33. I saw the interview and that is not what he said

    After ABC’s Karl suggested that Sanders (I-Vt.) and Warren (D-Mass.) have “pretty close to identical positions” on major issues, Sanders said that “Elizabeth Warren has been a friend of mine for some 25 years and I think she is a very, very good senator, but there are differences between Elizabeth and myself. Elizabeth, I think, as you know, has said that she is a capitalist [to] her bones. I’m not.”

    And how is this “ripping her” It isn’t new information for anybody andn it sttrictly the media meme of the moment
    No wonder we are in such trouble the media sucks wouldn’t know a story if it felll on them — they check google in the morning and whatever was said first is the theme of the day

    a long history of disservice to American citizens –ahhh the Dean Scream — stupid assholes

  34. pertinent part of transcript of ABC’s interview with Bernie:

    You and Elizabeth Warren have pretty close to identical points on issues. Not quite. What do you say to people that say they would pick her because she’s eight years younger than you, just didn’t have a heart attack and on the positions you’re pretty much the same? Every American has to make his or her own choice about the candidate they want. Elizabeth Warren has been a friend of mine for some 25 years. I think she’s a very, very good senator. There are differences between Elizabeth and myself. Elizabeth, as you know, said she’s a capitalist through her bones. I’m not. I think the situation we face in this country of the greed and corruption that is existing in Washington, that is existing at the corporate elite level where you have massive amounts of price fixing going on with the drug companies. We’re the only major company on Earth to not guarantee health care. Where we have right now as we speak in the fossil fuel industry, we have companies making billions of dollars a year doing what? By the way, they’re destroying the planet. Business as usual and doing it the old fashion way is not good enough. What we need is, in fact — I don’t want to get people to nervous. We need a political revolution. I’m the only candidate that’s going to say to the ruling class, the corporate elite, enough with your greed and corruption. We need real change. You don’t think that’s what Elizabeth is saying. Elizabeth is a friend of mine. She’ll speak for herself. You just said there were differences and you said a label. Elizabeth has said it herself. I will not tolerate the greed and corruption and income wealth and inequality and so much suffering going on in this country. She’s built her campaign about a plan for everything. She hasn’t put out a health care plan. Elizabeth is a friend of mine. Talk to her. I have put out a health care plan. It’s called medicare for all. We will tell the insurance companies and drug companies that we will not continue this current dysfunctional system.

  35. Lol, the Irish-American side of my family had a high regard for Audie Murphy.  “WWII’s most decorated war-hero”, they’d say.

  36. Dances with Wolves  yuck
    Hud   young Paul Newman  yum
    My favorite   The Treasure of Sierra Madre

  40. In the late 70’s we talked a friend into running for president — she was the only person who knew old enough to run.   She dropped out because she was appointed to the Redevelopment Commission but we often talk about how much fun it would have been to go forward with the campaign
    We keep proving anyone can be president.

  41. …and don’t worry- i’ve decided not to run.    You already have someone as dumb as me for your President. 

  42. A rather terrifying idea has been passing through recently that sense the Evangelicals and the Dominionist folks want the rapture and because Donny is a ignorant fool, that he might want to nuke Iran.  Then this happend:

    Trump Followed His Gut on Syria

    Over the weekend, State and Energy Dept officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating 50 nuclear weapons that the US had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey

  43. Favorite tweet of the day:

    At first, I was certain the Russians owned Trump. Then, it looked like the Saudis had him. Next, Ukraine got a piece of the action. And now, Turkey. Trump isn’t for sale. He’s a low-rent time share.

     

  46. Mr Bink is younger than I am. Therefore, he should be the Chief Justice. I won’t be around to fill my two terms. When I go, Mr Bink can decide if he wants to run for the presidency, or remain the soft heart and tough mind of America’s judicial system.

  47. pogo, you mean someone might do something foolish when they read “Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages.”    someone being maybe Recep himself?  or new friend Vlad? 

    more likely a recent isis escapee blowing his way to those 72 virgins in paradise .  

  48. severe tweetstorm warning when he hears (of course he’s not going to read it) this

    the guardian:

    The former journalists Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch are to publish a book on Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia, including an account of how they commissioned the British ex-spy Christopher Steele to write his dossier on the future president.
    Crime in Progress: The Secret History of the Trump-Russia Investigation will be published in December by Penguin Random House in the US and UK.
    Simpson and Fritsch founded the Washington intelligence firm Fusion GPS. In summer 2015, it began investigating Trump and Moscow. It hired Steele the following spring, as a contractor.
    Steele’s contacts reported that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for at least five years, and had launched a major and multi-layered espionage operation to help him defeat Hillary Clinton. Steele’s dossier said the Russians held compromising material on Trump, and had spied on him in 2013, in a Moscow hotel together with two prostitutes.
    Trump denies the claim and has repeatedly attacked Steele and called the dossier “phoney”.
    Simpson and Fritsch began their investigation into Trump for a rival Republican candidate. In 2016, the Democrats took over the contract. The authors previously worked for the Wall Street Journal, where they covered Russian organised crime.
    The book describes how their Trump investigation turned into a major political scandal. Their research was “a march through a mind-boggling trove of lawsuits, bankruptcies and sketchy overseas projects”, publisher Penguin says.
    It is understood the book does not identify the human sources behind the dossier. It does argue that Steele’s memos – which were passed to the FBI, which briefed President Obama and Trump – were substantially correct.

    […]

    “It feels like time to explain our work in our own words,” Fritsch said. “We were witnessing what we thought was a crime in progress that needed to be investigated.”
    He added: “I think we give a pretty careful exegesis of the [Steele] dossier, what is in it and what has been substantiated. We conclude it’s a pretty prescient document.”
    Simpson and Fritsch deny claims that they are partisan or have a political grudge against Trump. …

    […]

    The former journalists are critical of the US attorney general, William Barr. They also give short shrift to conspiracy theories promulgated by Rudi Giuliani, the former New York mayor who is commonly described as the president’s personal lawyer. These include claims it was Ukraine rather than Russia that interfered in the 2016 vote, to boost Clinton.
    Mueller’s report earlier this year was a disappointment, the authors say. The former FBI director found multiple contacts between Trump officials and Moscow but did not establish a criminal-level conspiracy. Mueller did not rule on collusion, saying it was not a legal term.
    Laura Stickney, publishing director at Penguin Press, said: “This is the Trump book we have been waiting for. All the President’s Men for the 21st century. Simpson and Fritsch have finally broken their silence about their four-year battle to find and expose the truth.”

  49. I am getting some pushback, although quite civil, on Twitter from Sanders supporters noting that Elizabeth was once a Republican. That is correct, did not know that. She left GOP 23 years ago – – Think Progress

    Just like Bernie’s ‘capitalist’ attack, me thinks it makes her more electable in the general. 

  51. What’s so wrong with being an xrepublican ? 
     
    All who politicize are susceptible to G!D’s love and salvation. Even the lowest russifying, racist rapist. Maybe.

  52. OK Mitch, good reason to convict and remove. 

    NEW: Senate Majority Leader McConnell: 

    “I am gravely concerned by recent events in Syria and by our nation’s apparent response thus far … Withdrawing American leadership from this pivotal region would not serve our nation’s short-, medium-, or long-term interests.” https://t.co/wqWIpnZ9xX

  53. Going on 205-years ago (Jan 1815) Old Hickory whupped the Red Coats in the Battle of New Orleans. I’ve walked the battlefield–it feels really small in comparison with Gettysburg and the European sites. In any case, a book review in the Journal (The Greatest Fury by William C Davis) brings me to this point, Johnny Horton’s 1959 hit, The Battle of New Orleans:

  55. And, Turkey’s already been lost as a NATO powerhouse. It’ll be strange seeing them brandishing Marxist sickles instead of their traditional daggers. They were our fine allies in Korea; a change in their leadership could return them to our fold.

  56. Increasingly looks like we have 1,000 troops trapped in Syria thanks to Trump. Pentagon will probably, hopefully figure out how to evacuate them but this is unconscionable. Should be an article of impeachment unto itself.

  58. I am totally willing to pack-up and go to that part of the world and fight for the Kurd’s sovereignty. I will furnish my own military ensemble; just set me aboard a military aircraft and I will go. This shit must stop; I’ll do my share to stop it.
    Flatus Ohlfahrt, USAF Ret
    Chief Intelligence operations and Exploitation Manager

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