By Pogo, a Trail Mix Contributor
Well, so now it comes out. Barack Obama did not surveil, wiretap, or do anything else that our Fake Newser in Chief alleged he did. No, the charge didn’t even come from him. (Please ignore those early to early morning tweets.)
No, it was actually a fake news media in Russia who made the charge. And it was actually that right legal mind, Judge Andrew Napolitano, who made that charge in the fake US media, you know, Fox News.
And to continue the Fake News onslaught, he now claims he had a wonderful meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. I guess that was after he refused to shake her hand and he criticized Germany’s commitment to its own defense. So good in fact that the German defense minister had to correct him on how NATO works and what Germany does and does not owe it.
Well, at least we now know that fake news in the US is from Russia through Fox through Trump.
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Woo Hoo !
I’ll kick off this thread with a puzzle. Since we now have republicans hugging Russia, hating our security agencies and offices, and rushing headlong into boosting the deficit, and carelessly toying with foreign policy, does the word conservative have any meaning ? Although you may disagree, I think the word is no longer descriptive of a commonly accepted meaning, and therefore of no use in political discourse . . . . UNLESS the t party folks who have captured the republican Party are actually Anti-conservatives. If so, the commonly used conservative – liberal continuum should be replaced by a conservative – anti-conservative continuum, in which liberals would be in the middle. Or something.
Let’s see if this sparks any thoughts.
Oh, I forgot to mention budget busting make work projects, like the wall that the drug and human trafficking coyotes will dig beneath, and new highways to suburbs and golf resorts yet unbuilt – for the convenience of the cartels distributing dope to white kids, and the trafficked folks getting to their homebuilding & lawn mowing jobs.
in the meantime, guess what
xrepublican,
The only label that applies is Opportunist.
https://youtu.be/yDIpt4TiY5U
I’m glad to read you again, Ms NY.
Got Pogo. Thanks. Your post above. And a good topic we should not let slink in the swamp, forgotten.
SJ, what XRepub said. Been missing you.
Comey’s testimony might be worth binge watching, Watergate style:
The hearing begins at 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. ET
On CSPAN, other cable news channels will carry the hearing live.
Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, also testifying.
Live-streamed on House Intelligence Committee website.
Fearless Leader might like to plan a trip to Holland. There is a version on YouTube as an alternative
The New Prince
David Ignatius wrote the libretto
But Craig needs to get on MSNBC to talk about The Prince because of new article Trump is the American Machiavelli.
dang Jamie, that does look fun — Machiavelli set to opera. Sweet.
Trump’s ratings headed into Watergate country — new Gallup out yesterday: “37 percent of Americans approve of his job performance, down from 45 percent a week earlier and his lowest rating yet. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of the way he is doing his job. It’s the lowest approval rating for any president at the two-month mark of his first term since 1945”
Gee, I wonder why his ratings are so low? We tired of winning so much already?
(BTW, obvious errors in the thread starter – and there are quite a few – are as a result of bleary eyed dictation and editing.)
Pogo… my head is spinning trying to follow all of that… 🙂
xrep… agree… the labels are confusing. The conservatives I used to vote for aren’t anything like the conservatives I would never vote for now. I like sjwny’s word. I tend to call them lyingsacksofshit.
pogo, this story from money cnn goes along with your post
Donald Trump: A Fox News president
Trump doesn’t just watch the channel, he peddles information he hears from it, citing Fox in his defense while standing alongside the leader of one of America’s most important allies.
Trump tweets about stories he sees on Fox. He uses Fox graphics to advance his agenda. And he gives his TV interviews to Fox — five of the seven he’s sat down for since moving into the White House.
Trump hires former Fox staffers. He promotes Fox as “fair” and attacks its rivals as “fake.” And now he’s dealing with an international incident provoked by a Fox commentator.
On Day 58 of the Trump presidency, none of it is surprising anymore. But it still is extraordinary.
“It’s hard to think of a similarly close relationship between a president and a single outlet,” historian Jon Meacham told CNN. “Politicians have always had favored reporters to whom they leaked, but I really think you would have to go all the way back to the overtly partisan press of the 19th century to find a parallel.”
It seems like Trump “listens to Fox News and other cable news shows as if they were his advisers,” RealClearPolitics reporter Rebecca Berg said on CNN’s “The Situation Room.”
[….and by the way further down in the article ….]
Rupert Murdoch, the patriarch of the channel’s parent company 21st Century Fox, now doubles as the chairman of Fox News.
Murdoch has also had a decades-long relationship with Trump. NPR recently reported that “Murdoch has told close associates that the nation’s 45th president calls to confer frequently — as often as multiple times a week — and that he has visited the White House to meet with Trump more than once.”
Murdoch’s spokeswoman declined to comment on the frequency of the meetings.
[….]
With Napolitano, however, the lines were blurred. He brought up the claim about British intelligence both on a newscast and on opinion shows. And he cited Fox News “sources,” suggesting the network’s news division had confirmed his information. But on Friday, the news division said no.
“We love” Napolitano, Bret Baier said on the air, but “the Fox News division was never able to back up those claims.”
And as for the president? When he was asked about Spicer’s invocation of Napolitano’s claims at a press conference, Trump told the questioner to call his favorite cable news channel.
“All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind,” Trump said, adding, “That was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox… You shouldn’t be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox. Ok?”
Pogo, as always I run drafts through spell check and try to edit without changing content. Thought it was a really good post, and timely. You have an easy conversational style. Much appreciated. I’m about to settle into Comey hearing, hope he actually answers some questions.
“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things;
Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax,
And cabbages and kings.”
THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER Alice in Wonderland
What revelations will come of today’s debunking of the Kremlin WH? I have some thoughts about those, and especially the Kremlin WH response.
Answers from Comey? Nice little pipe dream…….
blah blah blah — there are no answers from Pussy Grabber Inc
he will go on lying because the people who voted for him are racist, religious pigs and lies are what they need to keep going
And now we are getting Gorsuch a complete pig who only thinks white men have rights
GOP not challenging Trump/Russia collusion in Comey hearing, just mad we found out, threatening reporters.
Comey plainly confirmed for first time FBI is investigating Trump campaign / Russia “coordinaton” — have been since July
The GOP is (has always been) morally bankrupt and this is their chance to dismantle a government that respects all its residents
maybe we should all become white now
Mr. Cracker has excellent health coverage…medicare plus Kaiser Senior Advantage (paid for by his union) This last year has been a lot of medical problems –if we were paying – we’d be living in our car. Thanks to the union share no co-pays….but if we had to pay that…we would still have a house but be eating not much and not often. Medical care is very expensive, drugs are expensive and although corrections needed to be made to the affordable care act what the Goopers are proposing is to return to the 1950’s. People especially the poor, elderly and people with chronic diseases died because of lack of preventive care or early care.
Actually without his insurance – he would have died last year. Everyday the hatred I feel for the goopers and their enablers grows larger…and I know many people who live here feel the same way.
At least the real issues are on the table now. Goopers hate anyone who is not a white Christian and that is the problem.
Comey also unequivocal there’s no evidence of Trump wiretap claims
Wait a minute……………no official wiretaps…what about the other ways to surveil like through his weave
KGC – the key to all the talk is about an American tap on drumpf tower and people. Not talking about “listening in” on the Soviet side and any drumpf people dumb enough to be talking to the KGB/FSB/SVR/GRU. Expect a lot of flopping and flipping from the WH now that the lies are smashed to the floor.
Flip Flynn! Immunity could be worth getting the truth. Don’t need tea leaves in Comey hearing to see he’s at risk, a big target.
wish someone would ask rogers/comey about evidence (or probability) of wiretapping and bugging trash tower BY Russia. the dems did name names and get a lot put in the record even tho’ comey/rogers had to hold back answers due to not wanting to be specific about ongoing investigation(s).
seems to me gowdy is trying his damnedest to get clapper, brennan and rice charged with criminally disseminating classified info. he’s also fishing for charges against post and nyt….at least scaring them.
yep Patd, and the same Gowdy who delighted in leaking the Benghazi probe
ny times: Comey Confirms F.B.I. Inquiry Into Trump Campaign Links to Russian Hackers; Says He Has ‘No Information’ on Trump’s Wiretapping Charge
The F.B.I. is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government — and whether there was any coordination, Mr. Comey said.
Mr. Comey said that it was unusual for the F.B.I. to confirm or deny the existence of any investigations, but that in unusual circumstances when it is in the public interest, the bureau will sometimes discuss such matters.
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“This is one of those circumstances,” he said.
“The F.B.I., as part of our counterintelligence effort, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 president election,” he continued, adding that the investigation included looking at whether associates of Mr. Trump were in contact with Russian officials, and whether they colluded with them.
5 hours into Comey hearing hypocritical GOP blame shifting to media/leakers like accusing someone of opening their eyes during prayer.
Comey hearing done. Struck by how GOPers left themselves open to looking like they don’t give a crap Putin might own White House.
well, gowdy just begged comey/rogers to go where ever it leads … gave them publically an open ended blessing.
he may regret that.
and nunes wants to be told asap if there’s anyone they need to know about with regard to dastardly deeds to do in democracy who are serving right now in important administrative positions (referring directly to sos et al). he also may regret saying that.
patd, my hunch is Gowdy only said that because he got blistered on social media for obsessing on leaks instead of Russia in all of his earlier questioning. His SC pal Lindsey Graham might also have slapped him around. I noticed Gowdy mentioned Graham in that final ass-covering monologue.
Question now hanging: will FBI question Trump about Russia ties? Order your impeachment tickets now.
Russia ties? only the red extra long ones. the rest are made in jhi-na
oh, you mean those putin puppet strings.
trump built enormous blue pussy tower in Azerbaijan
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal
Friend of mine wrote a book, available at Amazon, and not about Trump
THE TRUMP TOWER MURDERS
The Trump Tower Murders is the story of a dangerous killer who hides out in the tower while teaching his understudy to take his place. The book is in the tradition of Good Fellows. It gives readers a look at places they are never likely to visit. It is bold, funny, and thought provoking.
Liz Smith talks about years of Twump
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/09/05/liz-smiths-reporting-on-donald-trump
You will can do some reading on the CIA recommended reading site for a lot of information about “bugging” things. Cell phones and VPN phones have mostly replaced land lines or POTS. So when talking about “tapping” a phone you can be assured it is not what Nixon’s henchmen were doing in the late 60’s and early 70’s. They were putting real hardware inside phones. As the phrase goes “that is so passé“. The only reason to put a bug in a room is to gather information which is not being shipped around via cell phone towers. Drumpf and friends are very nervous about what they discussed with the KGB/FSB/SVR/GRU.
We are living in historic times. For those my age who lived through the Nixon regime this should be very disconcerting. Nixon caused years of angst and the thought of a possible failure of the U.S. Nixon was talked to by certain people and he resigned. From what we have seen of the floater, there is no single person who can tell him its over and he needs to leave. Will he create a crisis by not leaving and ordering federal agencies and the military to keep him in power? I hope not. But, from what we learned today, spoken and unspoken, the man is toast.
Hamill on Twump
“Mainly because (Trump was) the kind of guy that in my neighborhood in Brooklyn and (Breslin’s) in Queens we despised,” Hamill said.
“The bulls–t tough guy. The guy is all mouth and couldn’t fight his way out of an empty lot.”
A president faces an FBI investigation into whether his team joined forces with a hostile foreign govt to win. That’d be beyond Nixon.
Poobah: “Order your impeachment tickets now.”
Can we get them through Ticketmaster or do we have to buy them through the House of Represeentatives Ticket Office?
Pogo – we can all wonder what is hanging in Nunes closet. It may be possible that the Soviet invasion has gone further than the WH.
XR, Rachel Maddow did a bit on the Azerbaijan structure and its location a couple weeks ago. It featured first lady Ivanka and her gushing about the beautiful views from her hotel – on the waterfront – miles away from the pussy palace (please don’t be offended, but it just sounds right). I almost peed myself it was so funny.
Please excuse me. When I write Soviet I also mean the current Russian regime. Putin is a Soviet KGB officer. He is trying to recreate the Soviet Union, so just saying “Russian” does not cover reality. I prefer “Soviet” as it is closer to the truth. Syria, Bulgaria, Turkey, Ukraine, Modova, Crimea . . , Those form the Black Sea exit. And, future Soviet Union. Unless we get a president dedicated to stopping the Soviets.
Ah, Mr Pogo, I must have missed that episode of TRMS, dammit. Thanks for the heads up; I’ll see if I can find it.
I did watch some of the hearing. Fascinating! Gee… I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the WH or Marg-larg-o… I’m sure I’d hear some nutty stuff.
Yeah…. frump is toast…. it’s only a matter of how far down he takes the Republican party with him.
nixon was trying to become our dictator. trump is conspiring to make putin our dictator. Yuuuudj difference ?
Sean Spicer was bordering on the hysterical today trying to put all those spilled beans in the pot.
nazis and their republican allies hoped to impeach FDR for lend/lease, a trade of naval and air bases in the Atlantic and Caribbean for 50 old destroyers.
‘Modern’ repubs approve of trump committing 60,000 marines to conquering Syria for the tsar. putin doesn’t even have troops on the ground there.
As bob dole used to whine, “Where is the outrage ?”
The next step is for the villain to order the USAF to bomb Ukraine.
fsb, gru, kgb, mgb, nkvd, ogpu, cheka, okrana = same old shit. fsb is merely okrana with cel phones & computers.
Jamie, SpLIARcer. Please, spell it correctly. And for what it’s worth, it’s KelLIARanne. ?
Comey has got something folks. The He-Coon walks at dawn.
RussiaGate is here to stay. Our first president accused of treason.
a fla reference.