Our Dumpster On The Mall

I was a big fan of the idea of the African American History Museum opening today on the National Mall. But every time I pass the scene I just cannot believe what an architectural travesty resulted.

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Author: craigcrawford

Trail Mix Host. Lapsed journalist, author & retired pundit happily promoting nothing but the truth for Social Security checks.

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patd
8 years ago

boss, these guys (but what do they know) don’t seem to agree with you

arts journal: New African American Museum Is DC’s Best Architecture In A Generation

“The most impressive and ambitious public building to go up in Washington in a generation — if also the owner of a truly awkward acronym — the NMAAHC draws its considerable power from a willingness to embrace the nearly bottomless complexity of both its mission and its site.”

latimes: nmaahc architecture review

patd
8 years ago

National Museum of African American History and Culture

wiki: The design submitted by the Freelon Group/Adjaye Associates/Davis Brody Bond won the design competition. The above-ground floors featured an inverted step pyramid surrounded by a bronze architectural scrim, which reflected a crown used in Yoruban culture

sjwny
8 years ago

Whatever the original meaning behind the design, it’s rather sad that the Museum built to honor the people who actually built Washington stone by stone is commemorated by three letter trays stacked on top of another.

Just curious if it has a glass roof. Being able to gaze up & “follow the stars” would be an inspired touch. And inspire hope.

sjwny
8 years ago

But honestly, what matters most isn’t the outside but what’s on the inside.

sjwny
8 years ago

Of course I don’t live there & have to see it day in, day out. Fully understand how Washingtonians might take a different view. An eyesore is an eyesore is an eyesore …

Blue Bronc
8 years ago

I too find the design very weird and even reading the symbolism and what the facade is supposed to represent, it is a long way to actually representing anything.  For those who have never been here, D.C. is the cement block and red brick rectangle world of bureaucracy.  The Pentagon was a wild design in the 1940’s.  To have an important structure break from the norm is not normal and has been a source of talk since it was first more than a hole in the ground.

 

patd
8 years ago

“three letter trays stacked on top of another”

that was my 2nd impression, my 1st was a rooftop evaporation unit.  too bad that it isn’t lighter in color which would blend in better and perhaps have more a lacy ephemeral quality; but from what was said in an interview contrast to the white structures was on purpose and makes a statement.   afraid that statement might be misinterpreted to be “f*** you, whitey”

sjwny
8 years ago

Here’s a statement: bad design is bad design.

patd
8 years ago

is the newseum any better?

‘course the smithsonian ain’t so lily white either come to think of it

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

maybe in a few years they can paint the trays…if they were here?  Bright colors and motif’s.  I wonder if there is a drone view available…I am a huge fan of drone photography —  the lilt over landscape is very pleasing to me.

patd
8 years ago

the newseum kinda looks like an old style credit card machine restaurants use to employ.  it also has a trash can quality to it…. you know the kind that slide open when you step on a lever…. or maybe an opened door elevator?

guess i’m just partial to pretty pillars, columns and such

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

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Jamie44
8 years ago

I’ve been disconnected from the mall for several years but knew this was being built.  Until the announcement of it’s opening no images had impinged on my judgement.  Learning of it’s purpose my reactions in order

1. That’s weird wonder what the architect envisioned

2.  Reminds me of sailing ship or ark (slave transport?)

3.  Need to think about this one

In any case, I’ll give it time to settle into its environment.  Lots of people hated the wall until they had cried on it for several years.

 

Blonde Wino
8 years ago

forget the trays…the design was supposed to be that of a Yoruban crown…I do not see it as the Yoruban crowns are beaded and colorful. Review from the NY Times.

RebelliousRenee
8 years ago

Well…  as an artist…  I too have a statement…

You mean they built a museum that stands out from all the other staid structures in D.C. and it’s shaking the sensibilities of some older farts….   GOOD!

Craig and/or BlueB…  if either of you actually go into it, would you please give us a report on it’s contents.

patd
8 years ago

bw, not only beaded and colorful, but some had critters on them

I think the building more resembles the wonderful woven baskets of Africa.

RebelliousRenee
8 years ago

Seriously….  how can one make a judgment based on one tiny and dark posted picture.  I googled it and got a better look.  To me it seems the kind of structure that one has to see in person to get any real kind of feel for it.

patd…  the woven baskets of Africa are beautiful, IMO…  also love those woven baskets of some island down Sturg’s way.

dvitale300
8 years ago

Looks kind of oriental to me.  At least they didn’t build it to look like a huge black power fist or a hand flipping the bird.  Maybe it should have been shaped like a black teenager wearing a hoodie – to honor all the innocent kids who were gunned down.

Man – it’s too early for the pessimism thing.

tony
8 years ago

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tony
8 years ago

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tony
8 years ago

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Blue Bronc
8 years ago

As a plain old GS worker, it will be many months before I can get in the doors.  From news reports the place has tickets out for a couple of months.  Maybe some real crummy day in a January slush storm I might get in.  It is on the other side of the Mall from where I occasionally work, so getting to it is not difficult.  But it is a combination celebrity status tour and very popular with many people museum.

It is of interest to me due to knowing my ancestors were slave holders in the 1700’s.  The one’s I know of released their slaves at the beginning of the Revolutionary War, however the freeman traveled with my ancestors afterward for a number of years.  It will take some digging to find out about the rest of the ancestors.  I do know a couple were indentured servants from England in the 1600’s and 1700’s.

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

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tony
8 years ago

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Jamie44
8 years ago

Small afterthought from the Ping exchange.  The violence of modern society often seems overwhelming.  It pays to put it in context in order not to be fearful.  In 1900 population in US 76.2 million.  In 2000 population in US 282.2 and climbing fast

Always take into consideration per capita when considering things such as murder.  In US this peaked in 1980 at 10.2 per 100,000.  It has now dropped down to 4.5 per 100,000 in 2014

The next time Trump and his “be afraid be very afraid” ilk want you to run about to scream and shout “Danger Will Robinson”, just quietly reply, “Actually I’m feeling quite safe thank you”.

 

Jamie44
8 years ago

Speaking of things DC, Trump’s new hotel empty and sad

People fleeing the Trump brand.

tony
8 years ago

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tony
8 years ago

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GrannyMumantoog
8 years ago

There are some very interesting pix on google image search. Different angles and time of day make a nice tableau. I especially like the one taken at night with the let up images glowing of the building and another one from a different vantage point makes it look like the bow of a ship: https://www.google.com/search?q=National+Museum+of+African+American+History+and+Culture&client=opera&hs=CVX&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjyg4nxtajPAhXo54MKHWS0AXkQ_AUICigD

 

Sturgeone
8 years ago

Hey, Ping……..you got your wick set too high…..you’re sootin’ up your chimbley……:-)

Attempting to find common ground is, however, a great idea……it’s about time maybe some of that could happen….

Blue Bronc
8 years ago

Jamie – I find the bloater’s comments as indicative of total lack of knowledge of any group outside his gruppe of yes men and the product of someone’s loins.  I have friends who used the lies of many to support their beliefs that they were superior race.  It is not often.  I’ve been reading that the guy is really broke.

patd
8 years ago

this gives more views (and is also where I heard about “couldn’t it be something to give a little color” to all the white on the mall) inside and outside

 

patd
8 years ago

question to those who know these things: will the bronze exterior change with age?  am thinking how the copper domes, cupola and roofs (rooves?) in Europe have oxidized over the centuries into beautiful blues… will there be a similar patina that comes about.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Granny

That night time view is beautiful and heroic.

 

patd
8 years ago

vanity fair:

Born to Run
Bruce Springsteen Calls Trump a “Moron,” Might Campaign for Hillary Clinton
He said of the election: “The whole thing is tragic.”

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

Trump has invited Gennifer Flowers to be his guest at the debate  I guess no one told him there is no audience

She is Trump’s type

Katherine Graham Cracker
8 years ago

The Museum looks better illuminated and close-up

Blue Bronc
8 years ago

patd – it is not bronze, but bronze is what was originally planned.  This article/interview states it is “a bronze-coated alloy”.  One of the issues that was considered is the climate conditions in D.C. which range from humid, to wet.  Along with a bit of salt in the air from the Potomac and Anacosta.  The salt is low as the water is mostly brackish compared to where one of my boats is near the Atlantic.

Jamie44
8 years ago

Running away from politics to play with genealogy and ran smack dab into politics.  I was looking for a whole host of high school pictures from the early 40s.  Pleasantly surprised to find most of my various relatives in Illinois and California were attending integrated high schools.

Fresno was particularly interesting because the students of Japanese descent who had been a good percentage of the classes in late thirties were missing in the 40s as their families went to little vacation spots like Manzanar.

By 42 several of the boys in the senior year pictures were already in uniform and sentiments such as the picture were prominent in the front pages.

 

Jamie44
8 years ago

I need to start a document that is nothing but fun and interesting tweets.

“Cheeto Mussolini’s campaign staff is having an emergency conference call to try to figure out how to ixsnay the Gennifer Flowers gambit.”

GrannyMumantoog
8 years ago

Jamie: Love the genealogy info. I keep wanting to delve into my family’s history but then I get interested in other things and it gets put off. Eventually it will happen. 🙂

Thanks for putting up that image of the museum lit up. I think it’s quite beautiful. My oldest grandson and I have been talking about the possibility of taking a train trip to Washington sometime soon. I love the Smithsonian and he hasn’t been there so I really wanted to see it again and share the experience with him. Now that there is a whole new museum to look forward to it makes me want to go even more. Since it seems like it’s hard to get into right now, maybe a trip in the spring would be something we can plan for.

whskyjack
8 years ago

Modern architecture  tends to ignore previous history or the feel of place. we have such a new structure at the Nelson-Atkins art museum.

The old museum was/is  stone and columns huge and massive as only neuvo riche late  19th century could build.

The new Modern addition is a steel and glass warehouse  look from the neighborhood side a total contrast to the surrounding architecture.

While they made the view from the old museum seamless, they seemed to believe the rest of the neighborhood didn’t exist.

I think the Structure in question is interesting. Only looking at it from the neighborhood view  tells me if it fits in.

Sounds like a trip to washington DC is in order.

 

Jack

patd
8 years ago

jack, sounds like a bit of “there goes the neighborhood” muttering

patd
8 years ago