Whatcha You See Is Whatcha You Got

Attribution: The End is Near by John Darkow, Columbia Missourian

As the pig would say: “That’s all, folks!” Deal with it.


78 thoughts on “Whatcha You See Is Whatcha You Got”

  1. runner up ‘toon

    Attribution: Outrageous Misfortune by Christopher Weyant, The Boston Globe, MA

  2. Good morning, I am waiting for the final casulty count from last evening’s action.  Dog is still spooked, cat finally gave up wanting to go outside to watch.
    I would have preferred our president from outright stating no events after 8pm.  It would have been better stated with something about due to the campaign schedule we are going to be selective in our event attendance.
    A reminder sfb did not start until 11 am or later, and even then he was still bonkers.  Joe is not bonkers.

  3. BB – The Waffle House appearance was later than the debate and he was fine.  Still, a nap may be in order. 

    I hope the real journalists, if any exist, will wake up and start reporting (loudly) about Project 2025.

  4. My last cat Saki finally stopped flinching with every bang and just curled in my lap.  

    CNN headline news might as well collect a paycheck from the Trump campaign.  Our local in my nicely blue state has been more balanced.  Let’s see if we can get through the weekend without any more contributions to the Joe is really, really old meme.  


  5. Sturg…   so very sorry about your little dog….   losing a fur baby sucks…

  6. Well I appreciate the sentiments but lately I’ve had more old friends dying than animals and after close to 80 years of animals passing you DO tend to develop a thicker skin about it all. And the almost skeletal 22 yr old cat is still staring at me from the foot of the bed, so all is not lost.  
    She was a good little doggie though as doggies go, and a constantly diapered, and blind pup can be a trial.  But I swear, sailing out over the bar during a nap—nice way to go.
    And soon……for the first time since forever I will be animal-free—never to go there again. I’m going to be ok with that. (lol both the dog and cat were delivered here by the daughter dropping them off after situational changes)

  7. Sturge, I’m late reading about the loss of your pup. As Charles McCord once said wisely to Imus, it’s a day that comes in every dog owner’s life. Still we miss them and the space they filled in our hearts. 

  8. BBC did a nice job here…
    Project 2025: The Trump presidency wish list, explained
    — Project 2025 proposes that the entire federal bureaucracy, including independent agencies such as the Department of Justice, be placed under direct presidential control
    — Consolidation of various US immigration agencies and a large expansion in their powers. Trump himself is promising “the most massive deportation” in American history.
    — Project 2025 proposes slashing federal money for research and investment in renewable energy, and calls for the next president to “stop the war on oil and natural gas”.
    — Ban the abortion pill.
    — Ban pornography on the Internet. Tech and telecoms companies that facilitate access to such content would be shut down
    — Eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including “sexual orientation”, “diversity, equity, and inclusion”, “gender equality”, “abortion” and “reproductive rights”.


  9. A bright spot yesterday here at my house was sitting-in on a conversation between two bald-headed middle age right-leaning working white guys both arguing for gay- and trans- rights and nondiscrimination. Progress is slow, but it’s happening. 

  10. Stugeone – absolutely sorry to hear about your dog.  Be happy with the memories.  Don’t know where and how long ago the saying about dogs being angels, but without wings, on Earth. 
    And, the thing about the people leaving is so true. And now it is those younger.

  11. BlueInD, today MSNBC is doing a 2025 segment each hour, doing one right now. Package story followed by panel interviews. CNN has covered the Heritage guy’s threats, haven’t seen a full story on the project yet, but they’re getting there.

  12. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/uk/uk-election-exit-poll-results-labour-conservative-starmer-gbr-intl/index.html
    Keir Starmer will become Prime Minister in the coming hours after sweeping away a 14-year era of Conservative rule and leading the Labour Party to a massive landslide victory in Britain’s general election.”

    “Labour’s victory was seismic. It was very nearly unprecedented; only Tony Blair’s Labour Party has ever won more seats in an election.”

    Woo-hoo or pip-pip!

  13. Pumpkin already in pre-buttal mode…

    Donald J. Trump
    The meanest and most vicious Interviewer out there is George Slopadopoulos of FAKE NEWS ABC, one of the worst and most vile Broadcasters in the business — In fact, the home of disgraced “reporter” Brian Ross whose reporting on the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax was so outlandish that ABC, after defending him at levels not seen before, was forced to put him, and their reputation, out to pasture. Now ABC, and Liddle’ George, a tiny, angry man, can make up for their past indiscretions and journalistic failures.

  14. Good to know they’re finally doing that, Craig, and hoping that the info trickles into some MAGAt brains, somehow, and that they have an ounce of self-preservation left and aren’t just zombies. 

    I’ve mentioned Project 2025 here.  They don’t believe it exists or that it’s a PR stunt from Dems to make folks afraid. Nobody will look up jack on their own.

    Project 2025 needs to come up in the next debate!

  15. SethAbramson
    I have never seen a cable news outlet want something as badly as CNN wants Joe Biden’s head

  16. MiaFarrow
    Joe Biden is no debater. He’s not even a great communicator these days. But he is an excellent decision maker & he has been the best President since LBJ. He has surrounded himself with brilliant, knowledgeable people who also care deeply about our country and about our lives. If Joe decides to stay in office, he and his team will continue to make good decisions that are right for the people of United Stares of America and for the world

  17. Just tell ‘em what pumpkin tells them:  He was joking, he was being sarcastic,  His suit didn’t come back from the cleaners, he had a flat tire, friend came in from out of town…..or better….just ignore ‘em.   Fuck ‘em….Steady as she goes Joe..,full speed ahead.  

  18. At this juncture, spirits are “flagging.” These are the things my maggers have been saying to me for many months. I feel like Joe walked into their trap. Whoever his people are and whatever they’re doing, they have not served him well to this point. 

  19. Guess he’ll pull all those ads his SuperPac is running promoting Project 2025. This shows they’re seeing the blowback.

    I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them. — Donald Trump Truth Social 11:29 AM EST 07/05/22

  20. BREAKING: Putin says he supports Trump’s plan to end the war in Ukraine.

    Let me guess, trump’s plan involves extorting Ukraine and ceding Crimea 🖕

  21. RR – Love that meme as much as Orange Adolf loves “hamburders” and power. 

    Craig – They won’t read it, and even without reading it, they think it’s a Dem creation to make MAGAt-world look bad.
    Saw a good challenge for white nationalists today: Everywhere you insist on posting the 10 Commandments, you must also post the Beatitudes…and follow them, as well.

  22. https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/how-the-supreme-court-bolstered-project-2025/
    In 1984, when a unanimous Supreme Court adopted a policy of deference, it wrote that “federal judges — who have no constituency — have a duty to respect legitimate policy choices made by those who do.” Last week, an ideologically divided Court reversed course saying that it was courts that have a “special competence in resolving statutory ambiguities.”

    “…last week the Supreme Court overruled a 40-year precedent requiring courts to defer to agency interpretations of the laws they administer. At the heart of the prior doctrine was a belief that agencies staffed with experts and receiving public input are better suited than judges to make complex judgments on how best to implement ambiguous laws.”
    “Setting aside its unilateral abrogation of power, the Court’s decision helps achieve a central goal of Project 2025 — the so-called “dismantling the administrative state.” By removing deference to agencies, the Court tacitly endorses the view that the accumulated expertise within government helps is a problem rather than a solution that achieves better outcomes for its citizens.”
    “In addition to reordering the relationship between the co-equal branches, for it to succeed, Project 2025 must change the mindset of those who work in and around government. For strongmen to rule — rather than serve — they must have a free hand to defy common understandings of the limits of their power. They must also inspire others to follow them in recklessly abandoning the rule of law.”

    In two of its final decisions of the term, the Court provided Project 2025 adherents’ victories that will enable a future president and their administration to be more ruthless and less concerned with breaking the law.”

    Orange Adolf can be tied to the illegitimate SCOTUS (his picks lied to Congress under oath) that is paving the way for Project 2025. Also, he’s spewed so much of its core of hatred at his rallies.

    Folks need to understand that Project 2025 isn’t about tRUMPsky. He’s just a power-hungry tool of the fascists pulling the strings with OUR money.

  23. We should make up an Atheist’s Creed and get ACLU to get it posted wherever they put up their commandments, no ne of which they obey.

  24. Joe’s gonna make fools of every prominent Dem who publicly expresses confidence in him while denying objective reality

  25. There are always paradigm shifts in the Onjective Realities.    And they can always go either way   —Bongo Seville 

  26. https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-conservatives-trump-heritage-857eb794e505f1c6710eb03fd5b58981
    “Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision”
    “Led by the long-established Heritage Foundation think tank and fueled by former Trumpadministration officials, the far-reaching effort is essentially a government-in-waiting for the former president’s return — or any candidate who aligns with their ideals…”
    “With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers.”
    “While many of the Project 2025 proposals are inspired by Trump, they are being echoed by GOP rivals Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy and are gaining prominence among other Republicans.”
    “And if Trump wins a second term, the work from the Heritage coalition ensures the president will have the personnel to carry forward his unfinished White House business.”

    “The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state,” said Russ Vought, a former Trump administration official involved in the effort who is now president at the conservative Center for Renewing America.”

    “Much of the new president’s agenda would be accomplished by reinstating what’s called Schedule F — a Trump-era executive order that would reclassify tens of thousands of the 2 million federal employees as essentially at-will workers who could more easily be fired.”

    John McEntee, another former Trump official advising the effort, said the next administration can “play hardball a little more than we did with Congress.” 

    “In fact, Congress would see its role diminished — for example, with a proposal to eliminate congressional notification on certain foreign arms sales.”  <—-

  27. https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/jul/04/trump-project-2025-heritage-foundation-education-department

    “Trump and Project 2025 are attacking the Department of Education. How might they reshape US schools?”


    “Donald Trump wants to shut down the US Department of Education, saying at recent rallies that it should be disbanded to “move everything back to the states where it belongs”.

    Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation’s rightwing manifesto for a potential incoming Trump administration, lays out how dismantling the federal education department would work, leaving behind, if anything, a husk focused solely as a “statistics-gathering agency that disseminates information to the states”, writes Lindsey Burke, the author of the education chapter and leader of Heritage’s education policy center.“

  28. “absolutely ridiculous and abysmal”

    no way the magaT king wrote those words. when was he ever heard saying/tweeting them in all the miserable insufferable years we’ve had to listen to him?  hell, he doesn’t even know how to pronounce them let alone know what they mean.

  29. Bongo Seville is a side character in the book I was always gonna write about one Angstrom Flibberne. Never fully developed his character, but Bongo always has something to say about everything’s. Little bit of amiable smartass.   Then of course, I found out that my name was already used byUpdike and that kinda ruined my appetite for awhile.  It was set in the near future when I started dreaming about it around 1970 I guess, while I was observing the cadets at The Citadel while I did a year there as a Veteran Student.  I’d done 4 years  at a military high school so none of that was a surprise…..maybe just they carry it out a little further than they do in high school.   But anyway this guy Flibberne There are cycles……Angstrom was in the process of dropping out, while the politics around him are swirling…..kinda like they were in 68-72 or so.  
    This seems topical, but it’s not.

  30. at least Gupta is fairer in his assessments than the other talking heads at CNN. here’re excerpts from his latest contribution:

    Dr. Sanjay Gupta: It’s time for President Biden to undergo detailed cognitive and neurological testing and share his results | CNN

    It’s true that the trajectory of aging varies from person to person. Biden is 81, and former President Donald Trump is 78. Both have already lived longer than the average American male lifespan of 74.8 years. This isn’t necessarily surprising, as both men have access to high-quality health care, and they don’t drink or smoke. Biden’s medical team has previously disclosed that he had two separate brain operations for aneurysms, including one that ruptured on the left side of his brain, in 1988, and there is some evidence that this type of hemorrhage may increase the risk of delayed cognitive problems later in life. Trump’s father died of Alzheimer’s disease at 93. Neither man has any other known risk factors for cognitive decline.
    Trump does at times display some of these same signs as Biden, including nonsensical rants as well as confusing names and current events.,,,, Trump has not released his actual medical records, and memos about his health that were previously released have at times used hyperbolic language, unusual for medical documentation.
    To be clear, there are aspects of aging that can be beneficial to the job of the presidency. Older people may “have something called crystalized intelligence, which is the accumulated wisdom associated with the passage of time,” according to Jay Olshansky, professor at the School of Public Health at the University of Illinois-Chicago. This is our knowledge that comes from learning and experiences.
    On the other hand, there are definitely aspects of cognition that decline as we age — especially fluid abilities like processing speed, attention span and memory. This is normal and expected and doesn’t necessarily stand in the way of someone’s ability to do their job. But for a minority of us, that decline is steeper and can lead to dementia. Think of this as the difference between forgetting where you put your keys and not understanding what your keys are for.
    Still, determining a diagnosis of dementia is not as straightforward as many believe, and there are many other things that could account for the clinical observations I described above. A poor night’s sleep or low blood sugar can have an impact. A viral illness or the medications used to treat those symptoms can result in temporary brain fog.
    With an election looming in November, we don’t have answers about Biden [or, Sanjay, neither do we have or ever had the real info about the other old guy].
    The White House has rejected requests from the press to release more medical records and question Biden’s physician, Dr. Kevin O’Connor. Biden’s press secretary said O’Connor watched the debate and had no concerns afterward.
    Elected officials, like anyone else, are entitled to some level of privacy, and under federal health-care laws, there is no ability for someone to obtain personal medical information on an individual unless authorized, even the president. There is also no requirement for the president or candidates to disclose that information. Most do not. In fact, in the 23 years I have been reporting on these topics, only Sen. John McCain — one of the oldest presidential candidates in US history — shared all of his records with me and the American public.

  31. Flibberne has a go to work office job in a large office cubicles off He’s in one of the cubicle. Meanwhile the government has grown harsher……maybe trying to keep pace with social change. During the ferver of belt tightening a law was slipped in which made illegal to be a net negative to the IRS or some such.
    Suddenly it became criminal to not contribute sonething anything etcSo flibberne gets up one day and just goes to work unshaven The story has it that flibberne just stops doing every think and then he goes thru all these machinations while dropping out and ultimately crosses path with the authorities and is arrested Blah bla blah and he goes to trial….flamboyant lawyers on either side, Congress gets involved, big blow up.
    It’s the Trial of The first man to be charged under the law saying you had to contribute to society and can’t be a slacker. It woulda been a great trial.
    So the book is basically this trial however it got there Whether or no it’s illegal to be a Loafer. Lots of Socrates in there and jeebus and Holden. lol

  32. Sturg – Sounds interesting to me.

    ps – SCOTUS has made it illegal to be homeless.

  33. Blue the homeless thing is what brought out again.    It’s like blowing dust offa old thing. 
    I can see Sutherland as Bongo.

    Flibberne is mostly not thinking about politics or government. He went from school to the Office and just gets wondering if he has to do that. Kinda step by step discarding things and becoming estranged. I saw him as torn between future and past b
    He just finds himself center of a shit storm.

  34. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/05/europe/france-le-pen-ukraine-mbappe-intl-cmd/index.html
    As Ukraine bleeds territory to Russia, support from one of Kyiv’s strongest backers looks set to falter if the far right sweep to power in Sunday’s French parliamentary elections.”
    “Marine Le Pen, figurehead of the French far-right National Rally (RN) party, vowed a prime minister from her party would prevent Kyiv using French-supplied long-range weapons to strike inside Russia…”
    “She tore into the national soccer side’s star striker, Kylian Mbappé, refused to commit to immediately throwing out racist candidates in her party…”
    “Le Pen lashed out at French soccer star Mbappé, who has made repeated comments in recent weeks seemingly haranguing the far right.”
    “Undoubtedly the brightest star of French football today, he joined a host of celebrities this week in calling on voters to mobilize to keep the far-right from power.”
    “There’s an emergency. We can’t leave our country in the hands of these people,” Mbappé said Thursday, following National Rally’s strong first-round showing. “It’s really urgent. I think that we’ve seen the results, it’s catastrophic.”
    “French people are fed up of being lectured and advised on how to vote,” Le Pen told CNN.
    “Mbappé doesn’t represent French people with an immigration background, because there are far more of them living on the minimum wage, who can’t afford housing and can’t afford heating, than people like Mr. Mbappé,” she said.
    “Le Pen’s party currently supports ending the automatic right to citizenship for people born to foreign parents in France and severely restricting citizenship by naturalization. Additionally, the party proposes restricting the rights of foreigners to access some social services, including housing, with preferential access given to French nationals.”
    “The second pledge listed in National Rally’s manifesto is a law targeting Islamist ideologies, although it does not elaborate on how.”
    Hmmm, could being the  Olympic host country shut down this right-wing nonsense, or at least the threat of lost future tourism? 

  35. Kamala drops her own f-bomb. Washington Post: More from Biden-governors meeting, Kamala Harris concluded the meeting with a call for unity behind the president. “This is about saving our fucking democracy,” she told the governors, per three people familiar with her comments.

  36. Senior administration official confirms on call with reporters that Biden’s solo press conference will take place next THURSDAY afternoon.

  37. At airport just now…

    REPORTER: Are you dropping out of the race or are you completely ruling that out?

    BIDEN: Completely ruling it out. …You’ve been wrong about everything so far. You were wrong about 2020, you were wrong about 2022…Remember the red wave? You were wrong about 2023.

  38. i’ve got two hours to figure out how to watch this Stephanopolous interview 🤔 
    All will become clear

  39. When the republic actually dies, all the senators go along and they think: Well, after THIS guy we’ll take back the power…he can’t live forever.  
    And then they all end up scurrying about the new emperor

    When those senators get on somebody’s payroll , they freaking LEARN how to scurry. Haha….Look at Lindsay. Or is that more of a scuttle……..

  40. That interview was both painful and unnecessary.  

    Had Dems circled the wagons instead of freaking out, the debate performance would’ve blown over for many Americans.  

    If it had been only the other side trying to exploit his debate performance, they would’ve been preaching to the MAGAt base, for the most part. It wouldn’t be at the top of every news cycle.  There was a damned hurricane and we are still talking about a brain fart, which can happen to anyone.  

    We could be talking about tRIMPsky’s lies.  We could be talking about the dangers of Project 2025.  But no, we’re talking about a few minutes (it wasn’t the entire 90 minutes) from over a week ago. 

    Let. It. Go. Get back on task with getting Biden re-elected. 

    Biden/Harris 2024
    And, yeah, let’s pay attention to the NATO meeting next week ~journalists~

  41. must not be asking the right questions, craig, at least not the one’s fetterman suggested.

    John Fetterman proposes questions for Joe Biden’s ABC interview (thehill.com)

    Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) suggested nine questions ABC anchor George Stephanopoulos should ask President Biden in their highly anticipated Friday prime-time interview, in a post on the social platform X.

    The questions, designed to remind people of the controversies swirling around former President Trump, were inspired by an article published by Politico on Thursday evening with the same premise.

    A screenshot of the article’s headline, “Nine questions George Stephanopoulos should ask Joe Biden,” was included in Fetterman’s post.


    Fetterman has rallied to support the president following his poor performance at last week’s presidential debate. He called on fellow Democrats to “chill the f‑‑‑ out” amid the immediate postdebate fallout, and later said abandoning Biden was the “dumbest s‑‑‑ I’ve ever heard.

    “I refuse to join the Democratic vultures on Biden’s shoulder after the debate. No one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record,” he wrote on X.

    Following his own debate struggles in 2022 against celebrity doctor and Republican opponent for the senate seat, Mehmet Oz, Fetterman said he was counted out of the race. During that debate, Fetterman struggled to put together coherent sentences after suffering from a stroke.

    In May, he criticized progressives who threatened to abstain from the general election, saying they would “own the tragedy” of a second Trump term. In recent months, the senator has distanced himself from the progressive wing of the Democratic party, primarily with his staunch support for Israel.

    Fetterman’s list of questions concluded with a vote of confidence in Biden’s chances to defeat the former president in November.

    “Ever beat Trump?”

    “Ever bang a porn star? Ever bribe one?” the list started. “Been impeached?”

  42. He seems out of touch with the real concerns people have about his condition and his standing in the race. Doesn’t help he apparently didn’t watch the debate or maybe he would better understand why it was so shocking to so many.

  43. This response bothered me a lot, came at the end.

    QUESTION: And if you stay in and Trump is elected and everything you’re warning about comes to pass, how will you feel in January?

    BIDEN:: I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all, and I did as good a job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about.

    Sounds like ‘Oh well, we lost our country to fascism but darn it I gave it my best’

  44. I could ignore all the media pile on except for one today and that was Sanjay Gupta since it was simply good advice.  Get the neurological exam if only to rule out Parkinson’s.  Biden needs to put the matter to rest as ballots are being issued and first votes for mail ins start in two months.

  45. So if Joe (sorry a bit distracted, it sounds like last night’s firefight has resumed) drops out, Harris now picks up and runs, who “balances” the ticket?  Obama was one of the pack, although about the same as HRC in standing at this point in the year.  When he was the Dem pick his running mate was a regular Joe, a guy who took the train home on weekends, over came a lot of adversity in his life and was well liked. 
    I think what has bothered me more than anything else is the magat hate of Americans, non-Americans and anyone not lily white, and that includes those who are not white but think they are magats.  That almost fifty percent of our country is magat like is so disturbing. I have to leave that for others to figure out. I am voting for party Dems.

  46. When was his last, yearly physical? Aside from stenosis and arthritis in the spine, I don’t recall anything else wrong.

    Why are we not also asking for an INDEPENDENT assessment of Orange Adolf?  Clearly, there is a lot that’s effing wrong with him.

  47. As Trump says he “knows nothing” about it his Super PAC is running ads promoting Project 2025, calling it “Trump’s Project 2025”

  48. donwinslow
    Have you noticed how quiet Donald Trump has been for the past week?

    That’s because some Democrats are damaging Joe Biden better than Trump/Republicans ever could and they are just sitting back and laughing.

    It’s truly insane what some Dems have done here.

  49. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/europe/uk-election-europe-populist-surge-intl/index.html

    “The United Kingdom’s decision to hand the center-left Labour Party a parliamentary majority comes at the same time Europe is broadly in the grip of what some call a right-wing populist surge.”

    “Last month’s European elections saw a historic number of lawmakers from hard-right and far-right parties elected to the European Parliament. The results caused such chaos that French President Emmanuel Macron called a snap parliamentary election in his own country, the first round of which the far-right National Rally won last week.”

    “A government composed of far-right figures was formed in the Netherlands this week. Italy is led by the most right-wing leader since the rule of fascist wartime leader Benito Mussolini.”

    “The Conservatives may have been reduced to only 121 seats and Reform may have only secured four, as of Friday morning, but the overall vote share for these two parties combined is larger than that of Labour – which has secured more than 400 seats.”

  50. Sturg -Yep, this wouldn’t still be a topic outside of tRUMP-land if it weren’t for Dems.   

  51. Joe has every right to be pissed!  Unfortunately that Irish temper is giving his brain bad advice.  The torches and pitchforks crowd are baying for blood and his “just asking” friends are no help!  The only saving face proposal I can think of is a mutual Joe/Donald exam by agreed same physicians.  I doubt either would do it, but at least it isn’t pistols at dawn!

  52. David Robetys
    The idea that Dems will do this & will end up feeling unified, that Harris will come out popular, that “the dynamics of the race will shift,” all of that … fucking deranged. Deranged in such a perfectly characteristic Dem way.

  53. trouble_man90



    Notice how it’s only rich white people wanting Joe to step down

  54. Pelosi certainly fits into that demographic.  She’s always playing the long game, steps ahead of everyone.  ???

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