Joe Biden’s 1988 presidential campaign was the first I ever covered. In the years since I’ve watched him through so many ups and downs. I don’t know, while Elizabeth Warren intrigues me, I can’t help leaning back to Joe. He talks too much, makes mistakes and gets in his own way, but dammit he is for real.
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“but dammit he is for real”
yep, but the others aren’t exactly potted plants or cardboard cutouts either.
speaking of real mensch-wise they can’t get more real than this guy
the guardian:
The former US president Jimmy Carter was admitted to a hospital on Monday evening for a procedure to relieve pressure on his brain, caused by bleeding due to his recent falls, his spokeswoman said.
The procedure is scheduled for Tuesday morning at Emory University hospital, Deanna Congileo said in a statement.
Carter, 95, has fallen at least three times this year, and the first incident in the spring required hip replacement surgery. He traveled to Nashville, Tennessee, and helped build a Habitat for Humanity home after getting 14 stitches following a fall on 6 October. And he was briefly hospitalized after fracturing his pelvis on 21 October. He received a dire cancer diagnosis in 2015 but survived and has since said he is cancer-free.
Nearly four decades after he left office, the oldest-ever former US president still teaches Sunday school roughly twice a month at Maranatha Baptist Church in his tiny hometown of Plains in south-west Georgia.
Rev Tony Lowden, Carter’s pastor, said the ex-president was hospitalized Monday on what he called “a rough day”.
“We just need the whole country to be in prayer for him,” Lowden said in a telephone interview.
Carter is resting comfortably, and his wife, Rosalynn, is with him, Congileo said.
re other real folks – really real rich folk vis-à-vis 2020
Long read, but worth it. US buried nuclear waste being leached into the Pacific due to rising seas.
How the US Betrayed the Marshall Islands
I admire Joe, but I just don’t want any of the septuagenarians as the nominee and Buttiegieg just isn’t ready for prime time.
Wait, what? Joe’s getting it done? Even in New Hampsha apparently. Latest Quinnipiac poll in NH has him leading the other top 4 by 4-5 points, MOE 3.8. I guess he’s not quite as dead in NH as has been reported- here and everywhere else. BTW screw Iowa.
Warren is “for real,” too. Plus, she has forward-thinking ideas. What’s Joe got???? It’s Warren, all the way to the WH!
Fun things to read early in the morning. What’s his face Spicer gets kicked off some television program. Didn’t SFB have someone on his staff named Spicer? Of course the “news” articles are reporting that SFB is saying he never knew someone named Spicer and anyway the guy is a loser.
Once again the big fat idiot coward avoids going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor those who gave their lives for America. He goes to NYC to be booed, like a real genius. He is so ashamed of his crappy life that he cannot face those who offer their lives to the Constitution and these United States.
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But Jerk Jr. went to Arlington, and waxed all philosophical-like on how all the graves reminded him of the sacrifices his family has made.
As if anyone in his family were capable of even a miniscule quantity of philosophical thought.
cnn: Arctic blast: 70% of the country will experience record-breaking freezing temperatures
The wind just shifted and is blowing from the NW and it is a light rain with the temperature right around 55° F. We be a rocking and a rolling in the slip. It is going to be a nasty ride home.
cnn:
Roughly 70% of the US will experience freezing temperatures this week as an Arctic blast hits two thirds of the country. Over 240 million people are under winter warnings, watches and advisories.
By Tuesday night, record-breaking low temperatures are expected across the country as the cold front moves off the eastern seaboard. As many as 300 records could be broken with temperatures more typical for January than November.
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In the northeast, cities like New York, Philadelphia and D.C. will start out with rain Tuesday morning and end the day with snow.
The cold air is moving south Tuesday where states like Georgia will see dramatic temperature drops within the span of hours from the mid-50s to near freezing. Even parts of Florida have been issued frost and freeze warnings.
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Schools are also closing or issuing delays ahead of the expected freeze. Across the northeast, more than 70 schools in Vermont, New Hampshire and New York state have already canceled classes due to the snow, according to Vermont Public Radio. In Texas, several schools have announced delays and the Texas Department of Transportation spokesman Rick Dailey says they will be monitoring road and weather conditions throughout the night, CNN affiliate KRIS reported.
Hah, well, there’s no guessing who BiD supports. It’s your right, so go for it. What’s Joe got? As of this morning a lead in 3 of the 4 first primary states.
Last I knew aside from dinners with dad, SFB Jr. is nothing more than a US civilian. And EXACTLY what sacrifices is he alluding to? His GF was a German immigrant who became a mega slum lord in NYC. His father followed in his GF’s footsteps and started his illustrious career by avoiding the draft with imaginary bone spurs that he can’t really recall, being spanked by the government for racist policies excluding black from his apartments, then went on to fleece the US and shore up his failing golf properties with taxpayer dollars. And him? Sacrifice what? I don’t see it.
patd, so let’s see how long it takes SFB to make some stupid crack about global warning being a hoax.
Lows here are predicted to start with 17 tonight and overnight lows below freezing until Monday. Highs will range from 37 today, climbing to the mid 50s by Sunday. Chilly for this time of year.
So as the beginning of open impeachment hearings looms, WaPo published a fact checker to help us understand the BS that SFB and the SFB sycophants will be spewing. It is too lengthy to try and cut and past portions of it and do it even a modicum of justice. The short version is this – almost every defense the republicans have floated is false.
OK, there’s one I can’t resist.
“There was a server — the DNC server — that never went to the FBI. The FBI didn’t take it. It was taken by somebody that, I guess, it’s CrowdStrike — that’s what I’ve heard. And referring to that, that’s not for an election that’s going into the future, that’s for a past election that was a catastrophe.”
— Trump, interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, Oct. 21
An interesting weekend. I’ve never seen the local roads so crowded with cars headed to every potential destination with sales in the name of Veterans whom are nonchalantly sent to never-ending war. It’s time to dump Veterans Day and return to its roots, Armistice Day. I remember, as a school kid, with our troops still in occupied Germany and occupied Japan, standing at attention at 11-o’clock on November 11th in Remembrance of the Armistice that ended the War to End All Wars almost thirty years earlier. No national holiday; just a moment of Remembrance.
Veterans Day for me was, upon my return from Vietnam to Cleveland in Dec 1966, I was the first one out of our Delta airliner to the applause of my fellow passengers. As I set foot on the outside ramp, I saw Kumcho racing from the ramp-side gate to embrace me. The congratulations of others in the halls of Cleveland Hopkins Airport was palpable. How things changed in a couple short years.
Yesterdays high was 27, and that was set at midnight. It just got worse as the day went on. all morning snow blowing around, Jake the cat was pissed. 3 times he demanded to be let outside only to stop at the door , look at the blowing snow, give that flip of the tail that says “this is bullshit”. Turn around and stomp back in. He hasn’t even bothered to ask this morning.
One bit of good news about the weather this morning, we didn’t reach single digits as predicted. We started out this morning a warm 10 degrees. No record breaker, it needs to get down to 6 for that.
BTW, this is what the Iowa caucuses will feel like. So if you want to cover them get out and get your cold weather gear broke in.
Jack
I wonder what Mr Carter’s last words to the medical staff are as he goes under. I know that I order the anesthesiologist to “open that valve all-the-way if things go wrong.” Poor Mr Carter. How does such a rich life equate with being a humble servant? Our greatest former president.
It’s still 55-deg down here. Gloomy skies, no breeze, gentle sprinkle.
Under the “God we’re are lucky these people are so stupid” column.
Sunday Nov 10, on face the nation NSA advisor let it be known that Alexander Vindman was going to be removed from the NSA staff. Evidently someone with 2 braincells pointed out that it was bad optics to fire a war hero on Veterans day. As a result, Vindman’s lawyers have said that he will serve out his time at NSA until May.
Jack
We had 4 tons of pellets for our pellet stove delivered this morning…. just in time.
We’ll see what the next round of debates will bring. Still waiting for the field to be winnowed down to 6-7 candidates.
Blue Bronc, Jack — apologies for not seeing your posts, just got back from florida and wasn’t paying enough attention. Your on deck next. Thanks
RR, what’s a pellet stove? Florida Man here never heard of that.
So is SFB getting ready to make a change at the VP spot? From Miss Nikki’s behavior it seems she thinks it may be. Probably her only chance at the presidency.
Jack
Flatus, with respect to a return to Armistice Day, what a great idea. If only the War to End All Wars had ended the next one… And I concur about Carter. He has set a standard for former Presidents that few will ever match. I just wish he had been a better campaigner against the affable prick that ran against him.
Craig
A type of wood burning stove and a way to get rid of saw mill waste. Take all that saw dust press it into pellets and you have fuel.
I suspect it is also cleaner that the old wood stove I grew up with.
Jack
CC – I can answer – the fuel for a pellet stove is pelletized wood and grain by products – it comes in bags and you dump a load of pellets in a hopper on the stove, which generally looks like a large wood stove, and most if not all have a fan that distributes the heat to the space the stove sits in. Mine had a PVC exhaust pipe so you can guess how efficient they are. The ash produced is minimal and can literally be dumped in the garbage. They are terrific sources of heat for those who like to burn stuff but don’t want the dirt and hassle associated with wood. So Jack is entirely correct on that count.
Craig
As mine (with minor editing) has a longer shelf life, if events get in the way feel free to set it on a back burner. With public hearings starting something more interesting may come up.
Jack
thanks for the education. Flew from 75 degrees to 35, amazing what difference a 2-hour flight can make
The lowest Temp recorded for today was set back in 1911. It was also on November 11 1911 that the lowest and highest temperatures ever recorded were set on the same day, with in hours of each other. Old timers still talked about that day when I was a kid.
Great “Blue Norther” of November 11th, 1911
So Craig, those old timers saw the same drop in temperature and all they had to do was walk from their fields to the house. In fact the story they told was by the time they made it to the house and put up the horses their sweaty shirts were freezing on their backs. They live about 80 mi north of Springfield MO.
Hey, life on the edge of the great plains.
Jack
Craig, your 1156…don’t do this to an old AF guy. “Flew from 75 degrees to 35…” In a straight vertical line, 40-degrees = about 2400 nautical miles. “…a 2-hour flight…” No way you did 1200-nmph. Oh, now I see.
Flatus
he flapped his wings really fast.
okay, joe can crab all he wants about her M4A plan, but this diss about her elitism, about how his middle class upbringing and life more humble than hers!
a whiff of mansplaining there, man. how can you say lizzie’s ok’y humble roots and childhood and hard working mom to teacher to lawyer to prof to senator years weren’t as difficult?
My brother has a pellet stove. It’s great! Heats up quickly & burns those compressed wood pellets; it’s supposed to be cleaner than burning logs. No smoke smell in the house. It was situated into his old fireplace. It was mid-60s early yesterday morning. It was in the 30s when I got home. Windchill was 10 today.
pogo – If it’s Joe in the general, I’ll vote for him. Until he gets the nomination, I’ll support Warren.
Craig… this looks just like our stove. The pellets look just like rabbit food. The advantage is not only that it is cleaner than a wood stove… but you can also set the temperature. The disadvantage is that it requires an electronic starter. So if your electricity goes out… no heat. We have kept our wood stove as a back up.
oh yeah…. forgot to mention that the pellets come in heavy plastic bags of 40lbs. You buy them by the ton… 50 bags per ton. We go through 3 1/2 to 4 tons a season. At this point in my life… I’m not very comfortable with slinging the bags around… so Rick does all the work with the pellets. He’s told me he’ll give it another couple of years (when he turns 70) and then we’ll replace the pellet stove with a propane stove.
Renee, how many sqft are you trying to keep at around room temperature?
Joe Biden is not real. What a load of poop. Oh well ok I guess you could say if you like the mushy middle or a weather vane as president — no problem
I wouldn’t trust him with any issue I care about
And by the way today Nikki Haley completely blew any credibility she ever had …she announced SFB is an honest man wow I’m surprised she didn’t burst into flames
Flatus… that’s a good question… but honestly… I don’t know. It does a great job of heating our house. But we also have passive solar….. facing true south and lots of big windows. We are plenty toasty though at night and when it snows.
That stove I pictured above is a Harmon stove… which is what we have. If you really want to know the specs, I’d suggest googling “Harmon pellet stoves”.
Pogo
In 2016 BiD loved Bernie and I hate Bernie
In 2020 Bid Loves Warren and I while I like her, I find her impractical plus she really blew away lots of voters two days ago.
In any case BiD is a totally wonderful human being, so other than minor growling in politics doesn’t get in the way.
While I don’t think the following Q & A was an intentional slap, but it was definitely was tone deaf:
The immediate reaction among former Hillary supporters was, “Didn’t we do that already?” Really pissed them off and the blowback was that Harris knows the great women on whose shoulders she stands in order to get it done. She was gracious towards Hillary and threw in a Shirley Chisholm quote for good measure.
This is a sample reaction:
Jamie, perhaps she meant to add “just like we did before when we won the popular vote”
my take is that she was thinking only in present terms and if there were a jab intended at all it was meant to be against her likely male opponents biden/buttigieg
Patd
I agree. She has taken swipes at Hillary before, but I don’t think this time was intentional just tone deaf. Every once in a while she gives Buttiegieg a run for his money in the arrogance department. You don’t run for Prez without a very healthy ego, but you aren’t supposed to be blatant about it.
P.S. Your answer is perfect and definitely what she should have said.
another day another poll
excerpt from latest Monmouth:
Four candidates are currently vying for the top spot in Iowa’s caucuses – Buttigieg (22%), Biden (19%), Warren (18%), and Sanders (13%). Compared to Monmouth’s August poll, Buttigieg has gained 14 points (up from 8%) and Sanders has gained 5 points (up from 8%), while Biden has lost 7 points (down from 26%), and Warren’s standing has changed by only 2 points (20% previously).
Buttigieg has gained ground among every major demographic group since the summer. His support stands at 26% among voters who describe themselves as moderate or conservative, 23% among those who are somewhat liberal, and 15% among those who are very liberal. He is currently in the top tier for both women (24%, to 22% for Biden, and 20% for Warren), and men (20%, to 19% for Sanders and 16% for Warren). Looking at the poll results by age, Buttigieg (26%) is nipping at Biden’s heels (29%) among voters age 65 and older. He has a slight advantage among those age 50 to 64 (24%, to 17% each for Biden and Warren), and is competitive among voters under the age of 50 (19%, to 24% for Warren and 19% for Sanders). Buttigieg leads among college graduates (24%, to 21% for Warren and 15% for Biden) and is in the top tier among those without a college degree (21%, to 21% for Biden, 18% for Sanders, and 16% for Warren).
“Buttigieg is emerging as a top pick for a wide variety of Iowa Democrats. While he has made nominally bigger gains among older caucusgoers, you really can’t pigeonhole his support to one particular group. He is doing well with voters regardless of education or ideology,” said Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute.
Other candidates register single digit support among all likely caucusgoers, including Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar (5%), California Sen. Kamala Harris (3%), former hedge fund manager Tom Steyer (3%), entrepreneur Andrew Yang (3%), New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker (2%), and Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (2%). Another 7 candidates earn 1% or less. Support for Harris has slipped by 9 points since August (12%), while the remaining candidates are within a point or two of their summer support levels.
Less than 3-in-10 likely caucusgoers (28%) are firmly decided on their candidate choice. Most are open to the possibility of supporting a different candidate on caucus night, including 16% who say there is a high possibility that they could change their minds, 37% who say there is a moderate possibility, and 8% who say there is only a low possibility of switching candidates.
more from above link
The poll asked voters to name a second choice candidate. When first and second choices are combined Buttigieg (37%) and Warren (35%) are the leading picks. They are followed by Biden (29%) and Sanders (25%), along with Klobuchar (14%), Harris (9%), Steyer (6%), Booker (4%), Yang (4%), and Gabbard (3%). Among Buttigieg voters, the top second choices are Warren (21%), Biden (20%), and Klobuchar (15%). Among Biden voters, the second slot goes to Buttigieg (22%), Warren (20%), and Klobuchar (17%). Among Warren voters, it’s Sanders (33%), Buttigieg (26%), and Biden (16%). Among Sanders voters, Warren stands alone in second place (46%). Among voters who are currently supporting a candidate not in the top tier – and thus may be more likely to realign on caucus night – second choices include Buttigieg (28%), Sanders (16%), and Warren (15%). [Note: the maximum margin of error for these results ranges from +/-8% to +/-10% for each candidate group, except Sanders at +/-14%.]
The poll also found that Buttigieg has the best favorability rating in the field, while ratings for Biden and Warren have declined. Currently, Buttigieg gets a 73% favorable and 10% unfavorable rating from likely Iowa caucusgoers, which is similar to his 72%-9% rating in August. Warren gets a 69%-23% rating (down from 76%-14%) and Biden gets a 65%-26% rating (down from 72%-20%). Sanders has a 61% favorable and 29% unfavorable rating, which is improved somewhat from August (58%-33%).
Klobuchar also holds a relatively strong rating of 54% favorable and 18% unfavorable (similar to her 51%-18% rating in August). Ratings have dropped, though, for Booker (48%-19% from 58%-16% in August) and Harris (50%-25% from 72%-17% in August). Among other candidates who have qualified for the November debate stage, Yang earns a positive 39%-24% rating and Steyer gets a more divided 33%-29% rating, whereas Gabbard has a negative 21%-38% rating.
In line with yesterday’s topic, Steven Miller’s emails have been leaked and he is just as bad as you thought he was.
Leaked Emails Show Stephen Miller’s Unfiltered Anti-immigrant Views
Miller promoted white nationalists, cited a racist novel, and praised a eugenicist president.
I see a nasty tweet coming in his future
NBC news:
Former national security adviser John Bolton derided President Donald Trump’s daughter and son-in-law during a private speech last week and suggested his former boss’ approach to U.S. policy on Turkey is motivated by personal or financial interests, several people who were present for the remarks told NBC News.
According to six people who were there, Bolton also questioned the merits of Trump applying his business acumen to foreign policy, saying such issues can’t be approached like the win-or-lose edict that drives real estate deals: When one deal doesn’t work, you move on to the next.
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Bolton told the gathering of Morgan Stanley’s largest hedge fund clients that he was most frustrated with Trump over his handling of Turkey, people who were present said. Noting the broad bipartisan support in Congress to sanction Turkey after President Recep Tayyip Erdogan purchased a Russian missile defense system, Bolton said Trump’s resistance to the move was unreasonable, four people present for his speech said.
Bolton said he believes there is a personal or business relationship dictating Trump’s position on Turkey because none of his advisers are aligned with him on the issue, the people present said.
The Trump Organization has a property in Istanbul, and the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump attended the opening with Erdogan in 2012. Though it’s a leasing agreement for use of the Trump name, Trump himself said in a 2015 interview that the arrangement presented “a little conflict of interest” should he be elected.
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Like other former Trump advisers, Bolton said regardless of how much evidence is provided to Trump that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, the president refuses to take any action because he views any move against Moscow as giving credence to the notion that his election is invalid, the people present for Bolton’s remarks said.
At one point in his closed-door remarks, Bolton was asked what he thinks will happen in January 2021 if Trump is re-elected, people present for his remarks said. Bolton responded by taking a swipe at Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump — both of whom are senior White House advisers — and at Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., three people familiar with his remarks said.
Bolton said Trump could go full isolationist — with the faction of the Republican Party that aligns with Paul’s foreign policy views taking over the GOP — and could withdraw the U.S. from NATO and other international alliances, three people present for his remarks said.
[continues]
Stephen Miller should be very glad the idea of eugenics was rejected.
Today Mr. Bluster (aka SFB) announced his daughter has created 14 million jobs. It turns out she got promises of job creation but no jobs yet. The promise makers are mostly companies that got maximum benefit from the Trump Tax Cuts currently bankrupting America
Not one single job yet.
KGC – we probably need to check if those are Chinese and Russian jobs.
i’m having a vision of the future: Craig will change his mind 9 more times before the election.
Michael Blumberg saw Steyer failing and that the billionaire slot in the Democratic primary was still open.
Trump’s response was to attack him on the big gulps. Since Blumberg’s initiative, there are all kinds of soda taxes and even the companies recognize the need for portion control.
I’ll vote for Republican-lite (Bloomberg), if that’s what it takes to get the Trump Crime Family out of power.
”In 2020 Bid Loves Warren and I while I like her, I find her impractical plus she really blew away lots of voters two days ago.“ -Jamie
What does nitpicking everything she says achieve? You can find people on twitter complaining about anything you want- that fact doesn’t make those criticisms valid.
lets see the average job creation for the past is somewhere south of 250,000 a month times 12 = 3 million jobs a year times the 3 years so far, = 9 million And Ivanka created 14 million of them, OoooK, way to go girl.
Jack
Now we know how a man can lose a fortune with a casino.
Jack
Nit picking, yeah where is good old DDT when you need it
We have a confessed criminal in the WH actively undermining the Constitution every day, but instead of criticizing him, let’s spend effort disparaging an earnest candidate with a real shot at displacing him. Great plan!
BB
Good point – fictitious jobs can be international
Plenty of time for all kinds of things to happen. No one is near being able to claim the race
In my opinion the realist Democratic candidate is Julian Castro
I confess, if it came down to Yang, Buttigieg, Williamson, Steyer, Bloomberg, gabbard or a dead yellow dog against trump, I’d vote against trump.
Maybe, I’d vote grimly for Booty Judge, cuz I know the rippers would utterly savage him on the ‘gay issue’ and ‘shocking possibility’ of Queer Folk taking over the Seabees and Delta Force.
With gabbard I’d jut have to hold my nose and hope that the damn russians don’t own her, too.
Bink
I wasn’t nitpicking. I was reporting an event and the reaction to it. My old experience from decades ago rearing its head. If you are working on a campaign as an advisor, a major job is keeping the candidate from making the wrong kind of news.
KGC
Given the current case re DACA before the Supremes, Castro would make a great veep candidate as GOTV for the Hispanic base.
“I was reporting an event and the reaction to it.“
Fair and balanced, eh? You can pretend you don’t have an agenda, despite your posts making clear that you do. I’m not implying it’s a nefarious agenda, but you’re reading like BiD in 2016. BiD, on the other hand, is making some sense.
Maybe i stepped into an alternate dimension. Please, disregard, if so.
crackers – SFB mentioned Ivanker’s mythical, 40 million jobs when he attended the opening of a Louis Vuitton factory in TX last month. If you say it enough, it’s true, I guess.
Right now, Bloomberg concerns me. Republicans benefit from him running, whether he wins (he’s really a Repug) or loses (Trumpsky Part Duh). Maybe he won’t gain any traction & he’ll just go back to his counting house.
Bloomberg was a good mayor of New York. Very popular. Ergo, he’s a threat, especially if he goes 3d party.
I have confidence in the combined wisdom of the House. I am certain that they will find between 1 and 3 felonies on which to base the impeachment of trump.
I have less confidence in the combined wisdom of the Senate. However, when the public hears the evidence that the House brings to the Senate, I expect that the pain threshold will be insufficient, and enough repub Senators will vote to convict. If the Senate votes to hold a secret vote, conviction is certain, even now.
Why do rippers hate pence so much ?
x-r, faux news (of all the things they could have quoted) quoted this yesterday:
“This wasn’t even about book buyers. For Nikki Haley, this was an audience of one,” he said. “She’s putting herself in position to be Mike Pence’s replacement if the president decides he needs to replace Mike Pence.
“And this was an audition,” Scarborough continued. “Just like [Bill] Barr wrote that memo that Donald Trump fell for — hook, line, and sinker and became attorney general. That’s exactly what this book is all about.”
any chance that was by chance?
X-R, am expecting to see this sometime soon from the twit in chief re his current veep:
“I don’t know him. There may be pictures with him. I have pictures with a lot of people. I don’t know what he does, maybe he’s a client of Rudy’s.”
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