78 thoughts on “Chaos”

  1. from an oct 1 cnn op ed by obeidallah:

    The best lines of the “Saturday Night Live” season premiere came in the cold open when Alec Baldwin, reprising his role as President Donald Trump, said: “Trust me, it may seem that what’s coming out of my mouth is B-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-S, but it’s all part of the plan.” Baldwin then gleefully added, “The more chaos I cause, the less people can focus. They’re all getting so tired, so tired.”
    And Baldwin’s Trump couldn’t be more right. Trump is a chaos machine. It feels like he has subjected the nation to a non-stop barrage of crises, scandals and tweets. And as “SNL” rightly noted, Trump’s goal apparently is to wear us down so that the American people — and especially his critics — stop resisting.
    […recounts series of tweety distractions…]
    After Saturday’s barrage of tweets — and his latest this morning drawing attention once again to the looming crisis with North Korea — it’s hard to remember what happened last week. And that’s exactly Trump’s goal. With more chaos, there is less opportunity to focus on any given policy issue or any given Trump failure.

  2.  “The more chaos I cause, the less people can focus. They’re all getting so tired, so tired.”

    spot on, snl writers.

    sad, but that’s it. you nailed it. that is his m.o.

  3. In interest of keeping the sunglasses wearing men in black away from my door, the following in a JOKE.

    In the picture at the top of the page are the guns pointed in the right direction? 

  4. If you don’t follow Marco Rubio on Twitter, you should.  Every morning he tweets a new bible verse and every single one seems to throw shade on Trump.    Today’s is a good example.

    Do not say, “As they did to me, so will I do to them; I will repay them according to their deeds.” Proverbs 24:29

     

  5. Damn you putie!    You have left us in disarray, divided us and delivered a depraved humperdoo of a ‘man’ to the fine citizens of the US.    The junta continues, but the generals are deplorables with medals and women of all colors are in danger of losing their education and birth control.  Just like putie prefers.

    In my fantasy snl?   I want an undercover boss skit…let America see who is really running the WH show.

     

  6. Jamie, by any chance did marco tweet Donald-ward any of these from kjv which would have hit a lot of twit actions?

    38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

    matt 5:38-44

  8. Patd

    They usually seem to respond to something he has done within one or two days.

    Plans made with advice succeed; with wise direction wage your war. Proverbs 20:18

    The quick-tempered make fools of themselves, and schemers are hated. Proverbs 14:17

    The stupid sow discord by their insolence, but wisdom is with those who take counsel. Proverbs 13:10

    One who winks at a fault causes trouble, but one who frankly reproves promotes peace. Proverbs 10:10

     

  9. trump is headed to asia….the secret service will protect him from VX.   I sure hope there are enough prostitutes to get them through the very dangerous trip for trump.   If trump does go to russia?  putie will provide the best prostitutes in the world.

  10. Jamie, those are particularly good hits.  either he or someone on his staff (or his priest giving him absolution in exchange for the tweets– or all the above) must know their bible, do good research and/or really really hate the twit.

  11. One must wonder about the size of the kickback.  The two-person, two-year-old company hails from Whitefish, Mont. — hometown of Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke — and won an unusual arrangement.

  12. Yeah…  the Russian agency that Maxwell Smart and Agent 99 were fighting was called KAOS. Who knew that Mel Brooks could create a 60’s sitcom and it become so prophetic!

  14. Jamie, I’m certain that the Whitefish power company or whatever the hell it’s called contract is just a coincidence. Surely the SFB administration would not do anything nepharious.

    Newsflash!! Sun will rise in the West tomorrow.

  15. Poobah, love it – MSM MUST point out SFB’s lies about Corker – he voted against the Iran nuc deal and gave a speech about its shortcomings, recommended that Congress reject it and send it back to Obama.  While I disagree with his assessment, calling out SFB’s lies is an essential function of the press.  They need to put it in SHS’s face and demand an explanation for his lies.

  16. Good comments, Pogo. And anyone willing to speak up & out against this President, knowing the crap that will be hurled back at him or her, is to be commended. Corker, McCain, whomever. We can disagree on “Republican” vs “Democrat” any time but first let’s unite to call out/remove He Who Is Neither. Screw Party politics. This is a matter of our nation’s future & security.

    We are the majority.

    Let’s act like it.

     

  17. Jamie, I’ve found no red flags on Whitefish. If, in fact, much of their working knowledge on how to ‘do things right’ was developed in the challenging Montana topography, I see that as a plus. If Zinke has clean hands other than offering for consideration a firm he believed could do the job ‘right’, then I’ll give him a pass.

    The outfit claims to have 300 people there right now and 700 more in the works.

  19. from flatus link above

    The company, Whitefish Energy, said last week that it had signed a $300 million contract with the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority to repair and reconstruct large portions of the island’s electrical infrastructure.

    bet more folks would have power sooner and  at less cost if they’d given the $$ to elon for his solar and powerwalls.

  20. also bet if the jones act were waived again specifically to power up that several enterprising foreign companies could have stepped in for a lot cheaper…. maybe even gratis just for pr purposes.

  21. nbcnews:

    […]

    “When you send out tweets into the region to raise tensions, when you kneecap, which is what he’s done publicly, when you kneecap your secretary of state, whose diplomacy you have to depend upon…you really move our country into a binary choice which could lead to a world war,” Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told NBC’s “TODAY.”

    […quoted more trump twitter attacks to which corker then responded….]

    “Same untruths from an utterly untruthful president,” he wrote, adding the hashtag, “#AlertTheDaycareStaff.” That shot was a reprise of Corker’s attack on Trump earlier this month when he tweeted, “It’s a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.”

    Asked later Tuesday by reporters on Capitol Hill if Trump were “debasing” the nation, Corker responded, “I don’t think there’s any question that that’s the case, just in the way that he conducts himself and goes to such a low level.”

    “It’s obvious his political model and governing model is to divide,” the senator said.

    In another session with reporters, Corker said there had been “multiple occasions” where Trump’s “staff has asked me to please intervene when he’s getting ready to do something that was off the tracks.”

    “And, look, I’ve seen no evolution in an upward way,” Corker said. “In fact I would say it appears to me that it’s almost devolved.”

    “You would think he would aspire to be the president of the United States, to act like a president of the United States, but that’s just not gonna be the case apparently,” he added.

    […]

    Corker repeated his suggestion Tuesday that “there are people around” Trump, like Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Chief of Staff John Kelly “that work in an effort to contain” the president and defended his own increasingly harsh criticism of the White house.

    “This is the role I believe I should be play for the good of our country and for the good of the world really,” he said.

  22. boss, more than a junkyard dog fight pov based on corker’s “ for the good of our country and for the good of the world really”  

  24. I don’t like Senator Corker.  He is a racist and more than a little bit creepy.

    But I admire him today. He brought popcorn to the Senate lunch with PG.

    If the secret service were trying to protect the president from himself they would be taking away his phone

  25. Maybe they already are and I certainly hope so, but those who oppose PG on general principle should be getting together and planning a working strategy or we are going to end up with a Trump/military junta   Kelly’s bot behavior indicates that an attempt is possible.  They are just looking for an excuse to declare martial law.

  26. Solar, wind, hydro so many renewal options which are easier to get back up and running after weather impacts.

    The idiots running our country back to the 20th or even 19th Century could be the dumbest

  27. SJNY’s comment

    We are the majority

    Act like it

    I think that is great and also true.  And I think for awhile that was happening — the townhalls

    but it is hard to keep up that intensity on so many fronts.  But it is important that we do.

    We cannot afford to be the “silent majority”

  29. Flatus

    I’m fine as well if they get the job done.  It just looked fishy if only because Zinke is about as trustworthy as a black mamba.  It would depend a lot on where this heretofore small firm draw their workers.  There were hundreds available in Florida helping with the cleanup there and ready to go in PR.

     

     

  31. With marino’s job as Dopers’ Entanglement Authority head SHOT in the foot, what happens with the trump plan to flood Latin America with opioid$ and amphetamine$ ?

    On hold, or full $PEED ahead ?

  33. When reporting on today’s Gooper performance I think it is entirely appropriate to preface every one of their statements with “claimed, alleged, no evidence to support, previously demonstrated as a lie.”

  34. i just got stuck in traffic for Trump’s motorcade back from Senate lunch — hollered a few things on your behalf.

  36. Any thoughts about the five Presidents appearing together Saturday & the sudden outbreak of (traditional) Republicans spouting wisdom & sanity?

     

  38. Flake not running for the Senate again.

    This is great.  Gosh it’s hot here or I would be popping corn.

  39. I think “Liddle Bob” gave Flake the final push

    Although no one I know would lift a finger to make it happen  Everyone I know wishes PG would drop dead…maybe the Flake statement will make him have a stroke

  42. Senator McCain giving a touching tribute to Senator Flake.

    Ha, the LDS side of the family just got a mention 😉

  43. kgc…the marion barry cannabis might be ‘green crack,’ which is really a strain name.

  45. Craig – motorcades and the rolling blockade. I’ve stretched a few traffic laws to get around those.  Always used my best learned language skills from the military, oil and gas field workings and other available locales, to encourage faster movement to hell.

    Life is good.  Too bad Corker and Flake did not go the “independent” route.  They might not want to run for reelection, but by running as indies they would have broken the R’s voters enough to put a Dem in their place.  Perfect payback.

  46. BW

    Marion Barry is a real strain here and I think “green crack” is part of its background

  47. SJWNY

    There was a great deal of commentary about the concert and the fact that any one of the five past Presidents put the current White House occupant to shame,.   I’m not too fond of the tenures of either W or Carter, but Trump shouldn’t even be allowed to join the club and that means tossing him out on his ear.

     

  48. Jimmy wasn’t too bad during his first two years. Too bad the helicopters crashed.

    The georges 2&3 were utter villains.

    Obama was better than McCain or rmoney.

     

  49. So the Clinton Campaign & the DNC put up money for the Russian Dossier.

    Might explain some of their overconfidence – not a snipe, just … if you had that info …. really.

     
    This has been a dizzying day.

     

  50. What does it matter if the Clinton campaign paid for it.. especially if it is true

    campaigns do pay for oppo research

    unlike the Trump campaign that paid actual Russians

  51. Katherine Graham Cracker,

    It’s been a dizzying news day 😉

    Was thinking about last October & the comments made here, especially the Post titled “Done Deal.”

    Who’d a thunk it?

     

  53. I am disappointed in the coverage of the Flake speech which characterizing this as a feud.

  54. Senator Flake was quite classy in his remarks after the announcement in the Senate. Mentioned he wrote an op-ed which took inspiration from the “Have you no decency?” moment re: Army/McCarthy hearings.

     

  55. Oh my god. If Flake and Corker don’t need the big donor dollars the tax “bill” will benefit, and McCain, Collins and Murkowski say nyet, the tax “bill” may (thankfully) be relegated to the pile of dead repug ideas.

    oh, and BillO now blames god.  Dumbass.

  58. News tonight: Clinton camp / DNC helped fund Trump dossier. Nice to know they did something useful.

  59. If more Republicans like Flake and Corker quit office the rest of Trump’s party in Congress would confirm he’s totally bat shit crazy.

  60. If Flake, Corker and McCain still vote to cut Trump’s taxes their “historic” moments are bull shit.

  61. Isn’t the issue Trump is bamboozling Congress to cut his own taxes? Just like he profits charging Secret Service using his golf carts.

  62. Poobah, of course that’s the issue. And the repugs Congress is just stupid enough to think it’s their forking agenda.  If dumb was gold they’d all be millionaires (ok, bad example).

  63. Mr Crawford, Untruthful Honesty reminded me of Chicolini in Duck Soup. Or was it the truthful dishonesty of Rufus T. Firefly? Or the mirror scene with Pinky?

     

  64. If flake, corker, and McCain vote present, the half-baked tax bill will fail. Then trump has to find some other way to chisel some more money out of somebody.

    There may be swing staters in the House who also see that the future looks grim, with primary challenges, violent caucuses, angry constituents holding sit-down actions in their offices or on their sidewalks, and no help from their self-engrossed usurper/fuehrer. I’d hate to be a ripofflikkklan elected from pale pink to pale blue district next year.

    ‘course, Id hate to be a ripofflikkklan anyway.

  65. Unfortunately, the passage of the budget bill was a bigger disaster than the half-baked tax giveaway bill.

    The effects of the budget will begin to gnaw at the economy before Xmas next year. Retail will be crushed.

    May G!D help us, ‘cuz that WH devil sure won’t.

  67. wapo:

    The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

    Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

    After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

    The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

    [….]

    Fusion GPS’s work researching Trump began during the Republican presidential primaries, when the GOP donor paid for the firm to investigate the real estate magnate’s background.

    Fusion GPS did not start off looking at Trump’s Russia ties but quickly realized that those relationships were extensive, according to the people familiar with the matter.

    When the Republican donor stopped paying for the research, Elias, acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC, agreed to pay for the work to continue. The Democrats paid for research, including by Fusion GPS, because of concerns that little was known about Trump and his business interests, according to the people familiar with the matter.

    [….continues…]

  69. Awaiting the morning glory, but since monsoon is over, it has been clear skies at night. I saw another meteor this morning.  For the superstitious?  It is a good sign, I believe.  For those who live by the scientific method?  Just another piece of the cosmic puzzle.   The missing planet debris.

    stinky zinke, trump and the whitefish connection.

     

  70. In watching suckabee yesterday, I, too, noticed the pearls and cleavage.

    Not only do women have coal coming out of their eyes?  Now the cleavage ‘line’ is making a comeback.   I tried to find the article on how much cleavage line is allowed.  Most Americans think 2 -3 inches.   Easy to achieve ladies!  With make-up…use the same coal pen used on the eyes and shading.

     

  71. Pew research, the flattening of the bell curve of political parties.    Within the article is a link to activate the graph data by year….interesting to watch it ‘flatten’ over time.   With the digital age?  The old analog bell curve is becoming obsolete.

    More from pew research, the 8 political parties —  take the quiz to find your group.
    Here are the eight groups:
    1. Core Conservatives — 13%
    2. Country First Conservatives — 6%
    3. Market Skeptic Republicans — 12%
    4. New Era Enterprisers — 11%
    5. Devout and Diverse — 9%
    6. Disaffected Democrats — 14%
    7. Opportunity Democrats — 12%
    8. Solid Liberals — 16%
     

  72. bw, what do you make of this latest from zinke?

    huffpo:
    Trump Administration Eyes Steep Fee Hikes At America’s Busiest National Parks
     
    Entrance charges into parks including Yellowstone and Denali would more than double.
    The Trump administration, which is looking to slash the National Park Service’s budget by nearly 13 percent and eliminate 1,200 full-time staff, proposed Tuesday to drastically hike entrance fees at 17 of America’s most popular national parks, including Yellowstone, Yosemite and Glacier.
    The move “would generate badly needed revenue for improvements to the aging infrastructure of national parks,” including roads, campgrounds and visitor centers, NPS said in a release Tuesday. 
    The planned increases are steep. If implemented, the cost of private vehicles would more than double to $70, while fees for a motorcycle would hit $50. Visitors entering by bicycle or on foot would pay $30. 
    Currently, at Yellowstone and Zion national parks, rates are $30 per vehicle, $25 per motorcycle and $15 for individuals on foot. Arches and Canyonlands national parks cost $25 per vehicle, $15 per motorcycle and $10 per individual.
    The new fee structure would be limited to each park’s peak season, its busiest five months.
    Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said in a statement that the price bump “will help ensure that [the parks] are protected and preserved in perpetuity and that visitors enjoy a world-class experience that mirrors the amazing destinations they are visiting.”
    “We need to have the vision to look at the future of our parks and take action in order to ensure that our grandkids’ grandkids will have the same if not better experience than we have today,” Zinke said. “Shoring up our parks’ aging infrastructure will do that.”
    Zinke ― whose job it is to manage about 500 million acres of federal land, including the 59 national parks — has repeatedly stressed the need to address America’s aging infrastructure and vowed to address the estimated $12.5 billion maintenance backlog at national parks. In April, President Donald Trump donated $78,333.32, a portion of his salary, to the National Park Service, which Zinke said at the time would go toward improving maintenance of the nation’s battlefields.

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  73. Patd…stinky zinke is an odd one, but the epitome of trumpism.   He demands the special flag be flown when he is in the office and his travel rivals former hhs price.  His security may soon reach pruitt level with his views.  But, he did pay attention to the sexual abuse charges within the Interior Dept’s properties.   A fine deflection from his pac/money raising activities at cost to Americans while he rips lands from citizens for coal and petroleum corporations.

  75. I sure hope the juggalos and proud boys are finding jobs in the coal mines or along the keystone pipeline.   I have heard many won’t wear their fred perry shirts to the mines or wear make-up at the pipeline site, however.

  76. This might be a great day to start a real war against this foulest of Presidents.

    This day is call’d the feast of Crispian
    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall see this day, and live old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.”
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
    And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.”
    Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
    But he’ll remember, with advantages,
    What feats he did that day.
    Then shall our names,Familiar in his mouth as household words—Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester
    Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
    This story shall the good man teach his son;
    And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
    From this day to the ending of the world,
    But we in it shall be rememberèd-
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

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