By Jace, a Trail Mix Contributor
A wonderful and aptly named string quartet for your listening pleasure.
Haydn’s ‘Sunrise’ quartet. Many thanks to our own Jamie for the suggestion of a quartet for a Sunday morning.
Enjoy the music and as always enjoy your day!
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jace,
Love the photo of the cellist smoking a pipe ?
Today would have been Alfred Hitchcock’s 118th birthday. “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” used to be a tv rerun staple. Saw Lamb to the Slaughter when I was 10; loved cool stories with clever plot twists (thanks Roald Dahl!)
Thank you whskyjack for being a decent human being. Hopefully the kids you help will pass it on down the line.
jace, lovely. thanks too to Jamie for the inspiration. an alternate to commemorate these last few days would be lennon’s “all we are saying is give peace a chance”
sturge, you asked “why on earth would anyone with a thought in their head call tenslves a Christian?” a fitting question for yesterday’s and today’s sabbaths lessons. my daddy’s definition was a rather narrow one: “being a Christian means trying to be Christ-like” and with that he’d observe few can rightly call themselves that.
btw, his definition allowed me to put that label descriptively on very few folk… two friends come to mind it applied to though, both were the personification of compassion, one a practicing Buddhist and another an adherent of Judaism.
Just catching up a bit from yesterday. So could someone explain to me just Why Hillary Clinton was forced to apologize for calling those folks deplorables?
She was right, and they just proved it.
Haydn. Wonderful. Nice recording. imho it is very difficult to capture a string quartet’s beauty on a record without it sounding thin and shrill. This one is a very nice one. Gotta love Deutsche Grammophon for classical recordings.
Wonderful break from crappy news.
Jack, you set a high standard.
So this is what happenes when folks vote for the lesser of two evils.
WOW! That Hillary must have been one nasty woman!
one of the better goper responses to yesterday:
We should call evil by its name. My brother didn’t give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH
— Senator Hatch Office (@senorrinhatch) August 12, 2017
Will Charlottesville be enough for the republicans to impeach SFB?
two other, but opposite, rw quotes of interest in the guardian story today “Trump under fire after failing to denounce Virginia white supremacists”
Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and father of the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, issued a strident tweet about white nationalism. “‘White supremacy’ crap is worst kind of racism – it’s EVIL and perversion of God’s truth to ever think our Creator values some above others,” Huckabee said on Twitter.
and
David Duke, the former head of the Ku Klux Klan who was the subject of controversy during the 2016 campaign when Trump did not immediately condemn his endorsement, pushed back on this initial tweet. “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” responded Duke, who was in Charlottesville
After reading the news this morning, I can’t help but wonder if Hayden’s Mass In Time of War might have been a more appropriate choice.?
Jace: Lovely music as always. I’ve come out of lurkville to respond to your 7:43 am querie “So could someone explain to me just Why Hillary Clinton was forced to apologize for calling those folks deplorables?
She was right, and they just proved it.”
I agree with your conclusion. In my opinion that apology is what cost her the election and brought us to our present state of world and national problems. She should have stood up for right, decency, inclusion and tolerance and continued to condemn the evil that trump was unleashing. Apologizing just gave trump the green light to go further on with his evil agenda. Seems like 1930’s Germany redux…Maybe if someone had stood up and called hitler deplorable we would live in a better world instead of a world where his ideology still has people ready to march on and attack decent people.
One more side note, people like Sessions who believe it’s a crime to desecrate the confederate flag have no place in the US government. People wonder what the Dems need to do to win…stop being mealy mouthed wimps and start condemning ‘deplorable’ behavior whenever it raises itself out of the dirt it was spawned in.
Sturg,
I can’t say why any one calls themselves Christian. I rarely if ever refer to myself as such, because I can’t remember to many times in my life when I’ve measured up.
What I believe is that one can live for a long time in the absence of many things, but you can shrivel up and die in a nanosecond in the absence of hope.
It’s enough reason for me.
Ray Wylie Hubbard
@raywylie
19h
my father and his four brothers fought nazis and now these dipshits strut around like..like..dipshits. fuck them.
Granny,
Nice to see you, and let me say that I wish to be associated with your comments.
The word deplorable should be on everyone’s lips and in everyone’s vocabulary going forward. Trump, Sessions, and the folks who put them in office, and those who try to excuse their behavior.
Hillary had it right. If a man had called them deplorable that man would be POTUS today.
Shoulda, woulda, and their first cousin coulda……but she shoulda backed up and ramped up the deplorables comment and pointed out with all the hammers available just how deplorable these deplorable people are deplorable. It’s deplorable that she didn’t…….but alas and alack and here we are with two (count em, TWO) crucial elections …..stolen by deplorable skuzzballs…….
Amazeballs.
granny, it was the media that said she apologized for calling them “deplorables.” she actually apologized for saying “half”
her so-called apology was imo really barbed and could have been read sarcastically. “Last night I was ‘grossly generalistic,’ and that’s never a good idea. I regret saying ‘half’ — that was wrong.”
latimes wrote at the time: Clinton went on to say that Trump had nevertheless repeatedly engaged in “deplorable” behavior throughout his campaign. …..“I won’t stop calling out bigotry and racist rhetoric in this campaign,” Clinton said.
just another example of repetitive media cherry-picking or simply ignoring her substantive stances. we were told over and over half-truths and in some cases out right lies or nothing at all of what she herself said, stood for and promoted.
axios: Trump suspects Bannon of leaking, putting job in jeopardy
May not contribute to any candidates during upcoming cycles. Better to take what few dollars I have a send it the Southern Poverty Law Center. Looks like we’re going to need them more than ever.
glad someone (and especially a goper) pointed out the paucity of his performance…. it was truly pathetic.
Michael Gerson
Trump babbles in the face of tragedy
[….Gerson describes the babble in the 1st paragraphs….]
But Trump could offer no context for this latest conflict. No inspiring ideals from the author of the Declaration of Independence, who called Charlottesville home. No healing words from the president who was killed by a white supremacist. By his flat, foolish utterance, Trump proved once again that he has no place in the company of these leaders.
Ultimately this was not merely the failure of rhetoric or context, but of moral judgment. The president could not bring himself initially to directly acknowledge the victims or distinguish between the instigators and the dead. He could not focus on the provocations of the side marching under a Nazi flag. Is this because he did not want to repudiate some of his strongest supporters? This would indicate that Trump views loyalty to himself as mitigation for nearly any crime or prejudice. Or is the president truly convinced of the moral equivalence of the sides in Charlottesville? This is to diagnose an ethical sickness for which there is no cure
[…he concludes in the last paragraphs just nodding his head in despair….]
People are religious cuz they’re dumb or scared. It really is that simple. 🙁
Trump is going to issue coded directives to American Nazis for them to instigate violence when he is really cornered. This was all very predictable, and it’s why equivocation during the election and wasting your vote was very fucking irresponsible.
…and Mr. Crawford, whether you realize it or not, you carried the White Nationalist banner during the last campaign. I honestly think you’re just so dull you didn’t realize it, but if you need me to go back through the archives to pull quotes, I suppose I could.
Bink,
Thanks for clearing that up. Have wondered for years what my problem(s) was.
…but you just implied you’re a “hedge-your-bets” Christian. That’s cheating.
bink, sometimes it’s a gift to be simple
https://youtu.be/fYi9Vr8bHJY
Ray Wylie on the writing of Redneck Mother
oops, this was the one I meant to post…. but will leave the other one up due to the beauty of song and instrument
https://youtu.be/CLAnuG1340g
Redneck mother song…..
Somehow this seems very appropriate
3 Corpse Flowers Are About to Open in Washington DC
Jace,
Thank you so much. This selection is absolutely beautiful and much appreciated. A reminder that such gentle sounds exist in the world is much needed right now.
Jamie, Glad you liked it.?
Jace
Lovely as always…perfect for a lovely Sunday morning and a good cup of coffee although a bloody mary would have been good too (one without horseradish)
Bink, I haven’t said anything about Dems needing to win more white working class voters that Bill Clinton hasn’t argued for decades, right up through the last election. I don’t think he can be fairly accused of carrying the White Nationalist banner.
Ok, why “white” working-class voters, huh? Why not just “working-class” voters? How does the message vary according to the “race” of the audience?
Why say color –because the issues for working class (what does that mean anyway) are different depending on their color. Also, the beliefs about what caused their problems are different.
you’re right bink, perhaps the public messaging should be color blind, but that’s the demographic Dem campaign operatives should specifically identify and target in swing states. If I were running the DNC I’d be spending a fortune right now focus-grouping white voters in Midwest states who backed Obama and then Trump, find out how you get them back. They are obviously not white supremacists.
That you differentiate by race is an admission we live in a racist society, and your refusal to address the root of that issue leads to the necessity of creating ideological “work-arounds”. You really need focus-groups to understand these people? Do you not talk to them?
Not to interfere but I don’t know a single person who voted for PG
where do I find them in California and if I did I’m pretty sure talking to them would net either of us anything
I believe as a nation we are racists in our custom and practice and in our institutions. Unfortunately change is slow and painful as evidenced by the reaction to the removal of southern civil war monuments.
The only true thing that PG said and I believe it is the heart of his support was that he was the last chance of people who thought of America as white.
I’m talking about how Dems start winning elections again, not improving society. You do that after you get the power. Well-run focus groups are very instructive, no matter how much you think you understand a particular group.
Luckily, KGC, CA isn’t a problem for Dems, unlike the Midwest
Gee, thanks. Bang-up job, so far.
I think the area where racism does the most and long lasting damage is in the criminal justice system
If you want to change things this is an area where real impact can be seen. I think the progress in the bail system shows that change can be made. Unfortunately at this time the Justice Dept is the enemy of change.
People who voted for Trump and Obama are “change” people and unfortunately, Obama didn’t deliver change – and Trump’s idea of change changes daily but it seems to be dismantling government and ushering in a period of governmental neglect. The “everyone for themselves” policy of governance.
Focus groups should answer the question – What is the change you want? I hope there is an answer instead of just cranky people taking out their general unhappiness with their lot in life.
“Hope you enjoyed our pizza. Now, how can we bullshit you most effectively?”
why not? why isn’t this as sincere as a conversation in a bar or coffee shop
Oh, fuck it. Just listen to your classical music and eat your pork-chops. Everything’s going to be fine.
I like pork chops – lately stuffed with blue cheese and apples
Jace, the Haydn is extremely well done and well chosen. These four artists obviously enjoy playing together without a hint of jealousy in who shall prevail. Makes me think of my Grandfather’s generation playing together at the family farm back in the late 1940s, years before electricity reached us. Jace, I wonder if your quartet ever played under kerosene lamps?
wapo:
A man accused of plowing a car into a crowd of protesters here — killing one person and leaving 19 injured — long sympathized with Nazi views and had stood with a group of white supremacists hours before Saturday’s bloody crash.
The alleged driver, James Alex Fields Jr., 20, of Ohio, had espoused extremist ideals at least since high school, according to Derek Weimer, a history teacher.
Weimer said that he taught Fields during his junior and senior years at Randall K. Cooper High School in Kentucky. In a class called “America’s Modern Wars,” Weimer said that Fields wrote a deeply researched paper about the Nazi military during World War II.
“It was obvious that he had this fascination with Nazism and a big idolatry of Adolf Hitler,” Weimer said. “He had white supremacist views. He really believed in that stuff.”
Fields’s research project into the Nazi military was well written, Weimer said, but it appeared to be a “big lovefest for the German military and the Waffen-SS.”
As a teacher, Weimer highlighted historical facts, not just opinion, in an unsuccessful attempt to steer Fields away from his infatuation with the Nazis.
“This was something that was growing in him,” Weimer said. “I admit I failed. I tried my best. But this is definitely a teachable moment and something we need to be vigilant about, because this stuff is tearing up our country.”
[….]
His father was killed by a drunk driver a few months before the boy’s birth, according to an uncle who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Fields’s dad left him money that the uncle kept in a trust until Fields reached adulthood.
“When he turned 18, he demanded his money, and that was the last I had any contact with him,” the uncle said.
Fields, he said, grew up mostly in Northern Kentucky, where he’d been raised by a single mother who was a paraplegic. The uncle, who saw Fields mostly at family gatherings, described his nephew as “not really friendly, more subdued.”
“The what-ifs,” the uncle said. “What could’ve been — you can’t answer questions like that. There’s no way of knowing if his life would have been different if his father had been around.”
yum KGC, gotta try that
wapo:
An American tourist in Germany was beaten up by a passer-by after he began giving the Nazi salute outside a cafe in Dresden, police said Sunday.
The incident occurred about 8:15 a.m. Saturday as the man left a cafe called Europe in the Neustadt district of Dresden, police said in a statement. The district is known to be a liberal part of the town and a popular meeting spot for students.
The tourist was identified only as a 41-year-old American man who was “severely drunk,” according to police. He suffered minor injuries, while the stranger who assailed him fled the scene, police said.
Police said the U.S. national is under investigation for violating German laws prohibiting Nazi symbols and that they are still seeking the passer-by for causing personal injury, according to the Associated Press.
The Nazi salute — the right arm straight and angled slightly up, palm down — was used as a greeting and a way of expressing devotion to Adolf Hitler under the Third Reich. Germany outlawed the salute after World War II, along with Holocaust denial and other symbols and signals associated with the Nazis. A conviction can carry a prison sentence of up to three years, although courts often impose fines instead.
[….]
Germany is not the only European country to ban the salute. Earlier this month, Switzerland’s Supreme Court upheld the conviction of a man who appeared in 2013 photos making the Nazi salute outside a Geneva synagogue.
so, Lindsey, you think noregard is up to heading that task force you suggest to “report back to Congress to see if we need to do more in terms of suppressing them?”
from huffpo:
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday urged President Donald Trump to strongly and clearly condemn the white supremacist hate groups who stormed into Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend, sparking violent clashes that left a 32-year-old woman dead and dozens more injured.
“He missed an opportunity to be very explicit here,” said Graham on Fox News Sunday. “These groups seem to believe they have a friend in Donald Trump in the White House. I don’t know why they believe that, but they don’t see me as a friend in the Senate and I would urge the president to dissuade these groups that he’s their friend.”
[….]
“If I were president of the United States and these people showed sympathy toward me and my agenda, it would bother me, and I would urge the president to dissuade them of the fact that he sympathetic to their cause,” said Graham. “Their cause is hate, it is un-American, they are domestic terrorists and we need more from our president.”
Graham added that he would support the creation of a federal task force to investigate the “size and scope” of racist hate groups and to “report back to Congress to see if we need to do more in terms of suppressing them.”
There is consistent case law and SCoUS decisions which will make it difficult if not impossible to shove the white supremacists, Nazis, KKK and whatever other trash is there into a box and out of sight. For all that I wish it were possible, it will not happen.
Those groups, along with the birchers, were out on the fringe because American society forced them there. SFB did not bring them out in the open, he encouraged them to break out because he is one, by action if not for failure to disown them.
The “secessionists” and “constitutional convention” slime are of the same mix, if not the same people. They have to be corralled and kicked to the fringe again.
Will it be possible to do it again? Yes. The kkk forced themselves into no where with excessive lynchings. Society, in great numbers, was not against them until they took front page and enough people with enough decency forced them away. It has to be done again.
KGC,
What time is dinner? I’ll bring the classical music and the wine.
Pork chops and classical music, damn why didn’t I think of that??
Give a Nazi salute and get your ass kicked. Seems like a proper course of action to me.
Flatus,
Don’t know about kerosene lamps, but I am guessing that some or all of them played under the gas lamps of The great European capitals.
Gas lamps? How do they get the livestock to cooperate?
My dinner is done grilled Mesquite seasoned boneless shoulder pork ribs complements of Publix accompanied by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau and Yuengling. Quite nice.
anyone know how many subscribe to this bs online. also how much of this is being written or promoted by the Russians in their destabilization efforts?
wapo at msn: “One group loved Trump’s remarks about Charlottesville: White supremacists”
Less than a half-hour after Trump’s live remarks, the Daily Stormer had declared the president’s words as a signal of tacit support for their side:
Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us.
He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate … on both sides!
So he implied the antifa are haters.
There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all.
He said he loves us all.
The neo-Nazi live blog also noted that Trump had refused to respond when a reporter asked about white nationalists who supported him.
“No condemnation at all,” the Daily Stormer wrote. “When asked to condemn, [Trump] just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”
[….]
The Daily Stormer wrapped up its coverage of Saturday’s violence in Charlottesville by attacking House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for speaking out forcefully against white supremacists and neo-Nazis. It ended with nary a word about Trump — but an optimistic note to those who had protested in Charlottesville, and a word of warning to everyone else.
“And to everyone, know this: we are now at war. And we are not going to back down. … We are going to go bigger than Charlottesville. We are going to go huge. We are going to take over the country. … We learned a lot today. And we are going to remember what we learned. This has only just begun.”
Jace
I’m thinking a nice sparkler to go with dinner and the musical program
PG did not win by much (regardless of the lies he spreads) and he cannot afford to alienate the groups involved in the demonstration. More of that false equivalency promoted by the media
Everyone in PG’s family has disparaged the white nationalists by name but him I don’t Ivanka is going to give him cover on this.
I’m embarrassed for the US – we elected a third rate clown and that is the level of staff he has brought with him.
Wish I had a poke chop…..instead of this stupid doctored up frozen pizza…….
Me too – should not have responded now I have to go buy pork chops tomorrow
Yeah, and now this nazi guy says we are at war….civil war, that would be.
Isn’t that treason and sedition or such?
Seems like we already settled that question.
That car driver will be a hero if he gets to prison……
Poor Noregard his people,what will he do?
I would imagine that after the bomb in Oklahoma, there are a number of govt agencies monitoring these Nozzies…..
Maybe they can do something before they become tainted with the stench of the administration.
The Noregard solution arrest the Klan members on pot charges
We got Barney Fife for AG…….
Trump just wants to make sure racists keep coming to his rallies so he can brag about crowd size.
Mueller thought bubble: “Geez, now I have to investigate Nazi collusion. Any Nuremburg prosecutors still alive?”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-the-last-nuremberg-prosecutor-alive-wants-the-world-to-know/
I believe that the last Nuremberg prosecutor just died.
The natsy/kkk/nat renaissance/etc scum should all come out in one vast, heavily-armed crowd, in a strongly hemmed-in place, and then declare their treason. For law enforcement it would be like fishing shooters in a barrel.
Btw, I haven’t seen the nra claim that the riot and murder wouldn’t have happened if everyone had guns. What’s up with that ?
XR, Virginia is an open carry state. Whining about too few guns would not sound right. Of course that’s never stopped idiots before.
Spent the day in the 16th Century. It is a very nice place. My cell phone didn’t go off once and there was lots and lots of beer and music.