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patd
4 days ago

’Do You Pray Your Pilot Has A Certain Skin Color?’:
certainly NOT max factor pancake orange no.1, karoline.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked about hiring polices at the Federal Aviation Administration in the wake of the deadly collision between a plane and helicopter over Washington, D.C., earlier this week.

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patd
4 days ago

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Attribution: Blaming DEI by Adam Zyglis, The Buffalo News, NY

patd
4 days ago

ivy, i see what you mean by your comment “I was awake watching Bill Maher. More reasons to feel depressed…” when I saw this:

f we ever want this nation to be not broken, both sides have to admit what they suck at.

patd
4 days ago

What’s the Point of Trump’s War on D.E.I.? | The New Yorker
If Donald Trump’s first days in the White House, in 2017, were about shock and awe—his haunting “American carnage” speech, the Muslim ban—the 2025 version, at least initially, felt more dutiful, a bit weirder, but ultimately not quite as scary. Trump 45 talked about a “new vision” to “govern our land” and promised his voters “you will never be ignored again.” Trump 47 seemed bored for the first half of his inaugural speech, then rambled on about Panama, Mars, and “the electric-vehicle mandate.” The flurry of executive orders that followed might have made for good headlines because they touched on culture-war topics such as trans rights and D.E.I., but outside of a few notable exceptions—withdrawing from the Paris Agreement and curbing renewable-energy programs—Trump’s first round of legislation mostly seemed like repurposed archival footage from his campaign, chopped up and stretched out into a new, thin form. The Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. Denali is once again Mount McKinley, because we’re not cancelling dead white men anymore, especially not for some tribe. D.E.I. is over at federal agencies and in the military. Now please go fight among yourselves about all this culture-war stuff while we deregulate everything.
This period of unhinged, but perhaps not so consequential, Trump theatre lasted until Monday, when his Office of Management and Budget released a memo freezing all federal spending “that may be implicated by the executive orders, including, but not limited to, financial assistance for foreign aid, nongovernmental organizations, DEI, woke gender ideology, and the green new deal.” We still don’t know the extent of the order, its legality, or who, exactly, it will affect, but the brazenness of the move suggests that Trump intends to run the country as a petty despot who values fealty to him over allegiance to the country. (The White House later rescinded the order, while also saying that the spending review remains in “full force and effect.” A judge has paused its implementation until February 3rd.)
Given the potential seriousness of Trump’s freeze, I think it’s good practice, especially after the recurring freakouts between 2016 and 2020, to point out when Trump mostly seems to be doing something for purely symbolic reasons and when he’s actually trying to get something done. The first Trump Administration and the constant stream of stories that ended in Russiagate ultimately desensitized much of the public to the actual bad things he was doing, disoriented the audience’s priorities, and might have even led to a quiet backlash or at least a sense of disbelief that Trump could actually be that bad. The renaming of bodies of water and mountains, for example, is easy enough to cast aside as Trumpian bluster, but what about the handful of executive orders Trump signed regarding D.E.I. which included the end of all such programs in the military and the federal government as well as the repeal of a 1965 executive order that prohibited federal contractors from discriminating on the basis of race, gender, and national origin? It’s still unclear how many employees will lose their jobs—the executive order calls for a list of everyone who might work in some D.E.I.-related endeavor and a review, which could either mean that everyone who has said a word about racial or gender equality or diversity will be out of work, or it could just mean that after a few high-profile firings of D.E.I. officers this list never really gets made, the review never happens, and everyone moves on to the next dimension of the culture war.
[…]
This was the final purpose of D.E.I. programs in corporate America—when the political winds changed this past November, D.E.I. became the convenient fall guy; the best way to signal that you never wanted to do all that woke stuff in the first place was to fire your D.E.I. staff and blame them for forcing you down the wrong path.

Trump, I believe, is doing something similar at a grand scale. He is taking a relatively powerless program, vilifying it, and using its dissolution as proof that he has single-handedly ended the woke era. The clearest example came on Thursday when he outrageously blamed “diversity” for the tragic airline crash in Washington. When his O.M.B. gambit turned into a legal and political disaster this past week, Trump’s Administration retreated to a familiar, safe space. The funding freeze, they said, was only for the parts of the federal government directly affected by Trump’s earlier executive orders, the most prominent being D.E.I. He and his Administration are wielding the word “diversity” both as a slur and an excuse for everything that goes wrong in this country.
[…]
So, yes, the war on D.E.I. is almost certainly a catchall scapegoat meant to distract from Trump’s larger plans to gut the federal government, but I also can’t imagine it will hold the public’s attention, just as a similar focus on racial politics in academia and élite corporations did not work for Ron DeSantis during his failed run for President. The American public elected Donald Trump, but between social-justice warriors, “woke,” and D.E.I., the right has now been fighting the same tired culture war for more than a decade, and it has largely lost the capacity to outrage anyone outside of a small set of terminally online, mostly conservative activists. Trump is going to need a better distraction, but one thing we know about him is that he stubbornly sticks to a theme. He might not be able to credibly blame diversity for everything from plane crashes to children’s reading scores, but I imagine he will try. ♦

Blue Bronc
4 days ago

Musk, who is directing the destruction of the federal government, and sfb, who is the on camera fool, have now removed Transgender people from all of the federal government. Want to travel, you can have your passport confiscated. No international travel allowed now.

According to the US government Transgender people are non-persons. Pretty exciting. Maybe a visit from an ICE goon to deport to somewhere (hopefully warm country) or perhaps shipped to Gitmo?

patd
4 days ago

BB, passport confiscations? so where does that leave ellen’s trans daughter should she want to visit daddy here in the states?

Blue Bronc
4 days ago

patd – somehow I don’t the a father daughter reunion is planned at this time. I do want to know why musk has the power to take over OMB. Also, why he can order a “70%” reduction of personnel. We are watching the destruction of the U.S.

Sprinkle Stuff
Sprinkle Stuff
4 days ago

“Want to travel, you can have your passport confiscated. No international travel allowed now.”

Do you have a source for that please?

i’m guessing no

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Pogo
4 days ago

Sprinkle, here’s a source.

The State Department is no longer issuing U.S. passports with “X” gender markers and has suspended processing all applications from Americans seeking to update their passports with a new gender marker. This suspension, made in response to President Donald Trump’s executive order signaling his administration’s opposition to gender diversity, affects all transgender and nonbinary Americans, including those currently traveling or overseas. 

The agency says that it will issue guidance on previously issued passports with an “X” marker and that more information will be available on its travel website. However, no formal policy has been released, which is fueling confusion among trans and nonbinary people trying to update their documents. 

That includes Ash Lazarus Orr, a trans activist living in West Virginia. Orr applied to update their name and gender marker on their passport on January 16 — days before Trump was sworn into office. He paid $300 for expedited service, but his paperwork wasn’t processed until January 22. When Orr called the agency’s hotline for Americans waiting on passports who have upcoming international travel, they were told that the agency had no guidance to offer and that their documents had been “set aside.” 

Now Orr is without his passport, without his birth certificate and without his marriage license. Over the phone, he was told that his documents are being held in San Francisco, where they were originally being processed. 

“They have my documentation that is very personal to me, and they cannot tell me if I’m going to be getting that back,” they said. 

The American Civil Liberties Union has warned trans and nonbinary Americans that if they submit a new application to change the gender marker on their passport, they risk losing access to their passport and supporting documents while their application is being processed. An ACLU spokesperson attributed this information to reports of discrimination received through the organization’s online intake form, as well as direct conversations with people who have described this happening to them. 

Sprinkle Stuff
Sprinkle Stuff
4 days ago

they haven’t said they are confiscating passports or disallowing international travel (yet)

unless Blue Bronc is seeing something newly declared in the last 24 hours

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Pogo
4 days ago

More from The 19th site:

As Orr waits to learn whether they will get their passport back due to federal anti-trans policies, they are facing down the prospect of leaving their home because of transphobia within the state. 

West Virginia has become increasingly hostile to trans and nonbinary people like himself amid a surge in anti-trans rhetoric across the country, and Orr expects a surge in state anti-trans bills introduced in West Virginia’s next legislative session. After receiving death threats and recently being attacked inside a men’s bathroom, he doesn’t leave the house without his spouse. 

“I can’t stay in the state. And it’s heartbreaking, because I love it here. I love the people, but it is truly, at this point in time, it’s either I leave or I die,” they said.

I’m a straight white male lawyer democrat who lives in West Virginia. A lawyer friend of mine who’s a straight white male Republican, who lives in West Virginia and is from Kentucky sent me a photo that indicates how fucking crazy people are about this issue that touches a few bases. It’s too big to attach but I’ll forward it to Poobah and see what he can do with it.

Pogo
4 days ago

Sprinkle, Orr had her documents “set aside” and the State Department had no advice to give her other than they were being held in San Francisco.

Now Orr is without his passport, without his birth certificate and without his marriage license. Over the phone, he was told that his documents are being held in San Francisco, where they were originally being processed. 

“They have my documentation that is very personal to me, and they cannot tell me if I’m going to be getting that back,” they said. 

Tell Orr there’s no confiscation.

With the wide ranging discharge of senior agency personnel and loyalty requirements for retention of personnel at all levels, and FFFF’s anti trans EO for DOD do you really believe being held is somehow not confiscation?

Sprinkle Stuff
Sprinkle Stuff
4 days ago

yo dude i know trans people that are looking to me for guidance so i need facts not bullshit, i can read, thanks

i also know how to use google so thanks for the 6 day old article! 👍

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Pogo
4 days ago

If actual examples are bullshit I can’t help you. This shit’s been in place for less than a week and it’s beginning to have its effects. More clarity will come re: this policy and the hundreds of others that the FFFF EOs, drafted by the folks who brought us project 2025, as the policies in the EOs are implemented by civil servants under threat of discharge.

Sprinkle Stuff
Sprinkle Stuff
4 days ago

thanks for chiming in

Sprinkle Stuff
Sprinkle Stuff
4 days ago

Saying the quiet part out loud:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-emails-air-traffic-controllers-quit-your-jobs/

On Friday, speaking about his plan for federal workers during a press conference, Trump stated: “It’s our dream to have everyone, almost, working in the private sector, not the public sector.””

Pogo
4 days ago

More to read. This is an evolving issue. Answers will be forthcoming but I don’t like the implications of the first step, which was to roll back the Biden policies allowing non birth bio gender assignment to be chosen on passports. The ACLU lawsuits to clarify this are undoubtedly being drafted now based on these early issues. Your take may differ from mine but my take on the issue is that there is no definitive answer yet and travel with an X gendered passport may or may not be problematic. The things to look for in the short term will be Dept of State statements and TSA guidances. The EOs on passport apps and X designations are the leading edge, not the end of the story.

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patd
4 days ago

The future of passports with the X gender marker : NPR
SCOTT DETROW, HOST:
For the past few years, Americans applying for a passport could choose male, female or X as their gender marker. But President Trump has taken that third option away, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio has now suspended all applications of Americans who did not pick male or female. It’s a move that is likely to be challenged in court, as NPR’s Michele Kelemen explains.
MICHELE KELEMEN, BYLINE: The offices of Lambda Legal have been getting lots of questions from trans and nonbinary people across the country worried about the status of their passports.
CARL CHARLES: Everything is just, like, being put to the side. And this is very disconcerting, to say the least, for people who have imminent international travel plans.
KELEMEN: That’s Carl Charles, who’s with Lambda Legal.
CHARLES: The State Department is not processing any requests for an X gender marker, nor are they processing any gender marker updates for binary markers – that is, for someone looking to change their gender marker from M to F or from F to M. Those are also not being processed.
KELEMEN: Charles predicts there will be legal challenges. Lambda Legal represented the first person to receive a gender X passport, Dana Zzyym, who’s intersex. And that took years of litigation.
[…]
KELEMEN: Charles of Lambda Legal thinks that’s the point of this, to create fear among transgender and nonbinary Americans, who make up less than 1% of the population and a tiny fraction of passport holders. The State Department is now warning such travelers that many countries don’t recognize the gender X markers, but Charles points out that other countries have had them for years.
CHARLES: Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Canada, Germany, Iceland, India. Nationals from those countries are traveling all over the world with these documents, and there have not been issues.
KELEMEN: For now, existing U.S. gender X passports remain valid. But Trump’s State Department is not answering many questions about this, raising concerns for those who are waiting on their travel documents. They might have to reapply and get a passport with a gender marker that is not accurate or does not reflect how they look, creating more troubles at international borders.
Michele Kelemen, NPR News, the State Department.

Sturgeone
4 days ago

About the most effective thing we little people (ie “consumers”) (ie buncha average Joes yakking it up on the internet) (in addition to staying informed.)
IS
Apply massive pressure to the elected Democrats to get off their wishy-washey asses and FIGHT. Any and all forms of pressure on any and all platforms. They are the ones we elected to fight this fight against the fascists, so either they fight (like Bernie, AOC, Jasmine Crockett, and a few others) or we all have to dine on whatever scraps might fall off the billionaire table.
Either fight—or get the hell out of the way of those who will.

On the beaches….on the airwaves, on the roller coasters burning bright.

Root, hog……or die.

Etc.

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Sturgeone
4 days ago

Bumper sticker:
BOYCOTT

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blueINdallas
4 days ago

One word, Craig: Staunch

Speedy recovery!

Sturgeone
4 days ago

It’s no use trying to have “norms” against people whose sacred quest is to destroy ALL norms, along with all of those who want them.

Pogo
4 days ago

Sturg, here’s hoping folks are listening to your words. Gotta say that my governor, all state level offices, reps, senators, and all but 9 (of 100) state legislators are Repugs. Not sure the 9 are standing in the way.

Sturgeone
4 days ago

And a little dog, nameless and mongrel and many-fathered, grown, yet weighing less than six pounds, saying as if to itself, “I can’t be dangerous, because there’s nothing much smaller than I am; I can’t be fierce, because they would call it just a noise; I can’t be humble, because I’m already too close to the ground to genuflect; I can’t be proud, because I wouldn’t be near enough to it for anyone to know who was casting the shadow, and I don’t even know that I’m not going to heaven, because they have already decided that I don’t possess an immortal soul. So all I can be is brave. But it’s all right. I can be that, even if they still call it just noise.”

Faulkner, “The Bear”

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IvyGreen
4 days ago

Lol, Edie is a distant relative of mine. I’m related to Caroline via the Edies, but thankfully not rfkjr.

RebelliousRenee
4 days ago

today’s meme…

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IvyGreen
4 days ago

Clean up on Aisle 6.

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Dexter
4 days ago

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I cancelled this for you, CC.

Dexter
4 days ago

the mood song for February,2025

Marvin Lee Aday, Meat Loaf, was a 2016 Trumper who attended rallies, but this song is powerful in relating how I personally feel about national USA leadership today. Meat Loaf died 3 years ago.

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Blue Bronc
4 days ago

Inspite of the sclerotic response of the Dem leadership, AOC (she can carry initials well) has been trying her best to raise Dems voice. I have seen a couple other Dems pounding the podium. We need the top leadership get up and at least tap on the mic every now and then.

blueINdallas
4 days ago

Yes, we definitely need some fresher, younger ideas at the DNC.

RebelliousRenee
4 days ago

HA!

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blueINdallas
4 days ago

Y’all might want to fill up. Gas has gone up 10 to 15 cents since Thursday, at least around here.

Retailers will price gouge everything and blame tariffs.

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IvyGreen
4 days ago

I loved the gut-wrenching performances of Jessica Lange and Drew Barrymore in the HBO version of the Edies’ story.

Jamie
3 days ago

I can honestly say I have never wished real harm on any human being, even the really deserving ones. Trump is starting to make me reconsider this stance.

Jamie
3 days ago

Trump’s Revenge Agenda has shocked officials who didn’t think it was going to be this bad.

Trump’s better-known adversaries were expecting payback, but more intense vengeance is being felt by civil servants

blueINdallas
3 days ago

There is an inelegant solution to all of this chaos.

blueINdallas
3 days ago

The US is, for the sake of global stability, too big to fail. Time for someone to solve for X.

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blueINdallas
3 days ago

Craig – Ken Martin is the new DNC Chair. Thoughts? Thoughts & prayers?

IvyGreen
3 days ago

Sums it up as well as anything.

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blueINdallas
3 days ago

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/elon-musk-doge-treasury-access-federal-payments.html

“According to a New York Times report, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Friday granted Elon Musk and his minions at the faux-agency DOGE full access to the Treasury’s massive federal payment system. As with the rest of Musk’s wide-reaching projectwithin the U.S. government under Donald Trump, it’s not at all clear what he plans to do with this unprecedented access.”

“Also on Friday, the top civil servant at the Treasury Department, David Lebryk, was apparently ousted after he refused to give Department of Government Efficiency officials access to the system — or rather, per the Times, he “was put on leave and then suddenly retired on Friday after the dispute, according to people familiar with his exit.”

IvyGreen
3 days ago

Nice thread today, Craig. Hope you’re well on the mend and won’t take more than a week to get back to “normal,” whatever that is.

Little Edie has a bigger following than I knew.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 days ago

lol they let the barbarians into the treasury

that should end well

IvyGreen
3 days ago

“Tariff money goes into the government’s treasury. Tariffs are taxes on imported goods that are collected by customs and border protection agents.”

DODO gets the payola.

IvyGreen
3 days ago

You can’t say Elonia Loco wasn’t elected. If you voted for DODO you voted for every one of his stooges.

blueINdallas
3 days ago

https://www.cdc.gov/index.html

Sctoll up, top left, to see the modified US flag. WTF?

blueINdallas
3 days ago

https://www.defense.gov/

The 9-star, Confederate flag is in the DOD website, too.

Tell me it was about egg prices.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 days ago

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compare and contrast

that little emoji above has all the stars if you zoom in

also i see the message the site is being modified to comply with EOs

not surprised, some ppl are starting to snap out of it

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patd
3 days ago

NEW THREAD by our Trail friend Jack

Sturgeone
3 days ago

Surely someone who is not an idiot has explained how tariffs work and he’s doing it anyway. So obviously whatever the effect of the tariffs is also the intended goal of the tariffs.

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