How To Go After A Racist Who Won’t Admit It

“I’m not calling you a racist. I’m saying that racists who support you call you a racist.”

— Andrew Gillum (D) in last night’s Florida governor’s race debate against Ron DeSantis (R)

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Pipe Bombs Target Trump Targets

POLITICO: “Trump decries ‘political violence’ after years of stoking it.”

Trump at his rallies …

  • “I’d like to punch him in the face”
  • “Maybe he should have been roughed up”
  • “Part of the problem…is no one wants to hurt each other anymore”
  • “I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will”
  • “The audience hit back. That’s what we need a little bit more of”
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Author: craigcrawford

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113 thoughts on “How To Go After A Racist Who Won’t Admit It”

  1. “there’s a lot of false equivalence…when we say both sides need to  tone down their rhetoric…. this is not a both sides issue. this is a Donald trump issue. Donald trump is the only one who has been using violent rhetoric… that suggests and endorses violence.  this is all on… in terms of who’s using violent rhetoric,  it’s only Donald trump.”

    CNN chief legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin calls out President Donald Trump for using violent rhetoric in his criticism of CNN and political opponents.

  2. wapo:  Trump inciting ‘violence’: More than 200 retired journalists condemn president’s ‘un-American’ attacks on press

    […]

    “One of the pillars of a free and open democracy is a vibrant free press,” the letter said. “At his inauguration the President of the United States swears to protect the U.S. Constitution, including the First Amendment. This President is utterly failing to do so and actively working not simply to undermine the press, but to incite violence against it as well.”

     

    It continued: “We denounce Donald Trump’s behavior as unconstitutional, un-American and utterly unlawful and unseemly for the President of the United States and leader of the free world.”

    […continues….]

     

  3. salon:

    Trump is inciting violence, and now we have a MAGAbomber

    […]
    You could call the bombs sent today to the Obamas and the Clintons and the others a terrorist act, but it’s also attempted murder. The only difference between those bombs and what we would call terrorism is the politics involved. All of those targeted by the bomber or bombers are prominent Democrats. All of them have been targeted recently by Donald Trump in his rhetoric at rallies and in his tweets.
     
    Trump is blaming Democrats for ISIS, for the so-called “caravan” in Central America, for anything he can think of. He tells lie after lie, and someone out there among his supporters is listening to him. Trump is not just an inveterate liar and a bellicose buffoon with a yellow rat on his head.
     
    Trump has radicalized his base. He is inciting terrorism. He is an accomplice to attempted murder.
     
    Someone is going to be killed before this is over.
     

  4. Yes, Trump is an “accomplice” to attempted murder,  because it would be impossible to call him the mastermind of anything.

    He had to trot Melania out to tell his base to be kind before he recited his empty words.

    We should start a pool to see how long before he says something incite-full, again, because he is not insightful; he thinks he is all-powerful, yet takes no responsibility for anything negative.  Sociopath.

  5. Haspel has reportedly heard audio of Saudis killing Kashoggi.   It was probably not too disturbing to her, considering her past.

    She is what Trump admires.

    The difference between her and Trump’s bombing handyman is that she was officially sanctioned to do what she did.

    So, have Yertle & Nunes & the rest of the Republicans who have signed on to have Trump represent their brand said anything about the devices sent to Dems?

     

  6. me, the twit, inciting violence?  that’s just rhetorical hyperbole, just entertaining the base….  just ask the judge.

  7. @realdonaldtrump

    A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!

    7:18 AM – 25 Oct 2018

  8. I will say the most difficult and circular path to find a contact is the FBI website.

    Check your junk mail folder occasionally.  In mine I found a ransomware email threatening to send my sorid browsing history to all my contacts unless I pay $900 to a bitcoin account.  It took some time to finally get the FBI online complaint form up and filled out.  Geez what a pain.  It says add a copy of the email, there is no way to attach a copy of anything to the form.

    Now all I do is what we did back in the early days of cutting out and mailing a coupon off the cereal box, wait for the postman to deliver the goodies.  Or at least in this case a phone call from the cyber crimes desk.

  9. from a 2016 business insider story:

    […]
    When pressed by host Chuck Todd to confirm whether he would cover the legal fees for the supporter, who is now reportedly facing assault and battery charges, Trump said he was considering it.
    “I’ve actually instructed my people to look into it, yes,” Trump said.
    Last month, Trump pledged to pay the legal bills for supporters who “knocked the crap” out of anyone who was considering throwing tomatoes at the former reality-television star.
     

    “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them,” Trump said. “Just knock the hell — I promise you, I’ll pay the legal fees.”

  10. Poobah, trump is pissed because the media reports his words and “deeds”.  See, when they appear in black and white, or are played back by the media on cable and network news and are viewed from the perspective of the listener rather than the performer, their abhorrence is clear and what I can only hope is the joke running through his mind when he utters those words is not clear, evident, or even suggested.  We are in for a rougher ride for the next two years than we’ve been on for the last 21 months.

    Dana Milbank has captured it in his opinion piece at WaPo this morning, What Hath Trump Wrought?

    In the closing days of the 2018 campaign, Trump has revived what worked in 2016, encouraging his mostly white and mostly male supporters to feel besieged by dark-skinned people, immigrants, women, religious minorities and, of course, the media.

    Trump recently maligned all the targets of Wednesday’s attack. Thirty-six hours earlier, Trump fired up yet more “Lock her up!” and “CNN sucks!” chants. He roiled the crowd to boo “low IQ” Waters. Trump spread false conspiracy theories that Soros funded the migrant caravan and anti-Brett M. Kavanaugh protesters. After Holder said “when they go low, we kick them,” Trump threatened: “He’d better be careful what he’s wishing for.” Trump called Brennan “a total lowlife” and a “very bad guy” who “disgraced the country.”

    This moment is particularly dangerous because Trump has turned partisan divisions into a proxy war over race and gender, stoking backlash to the first black president and the first woman to be a major party’s presidential nominee. Those receiving the pipe bombs include three African Americans, two women and a Jew frequently targeted by anti-Semites. These demographics figure prominently among Trump’s favorite targets at rallies, mostly women (Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, Clinton), African Americans (Cory Booker, Waters, Obama) and Jews (Soros, Charles E. Schumer, Richard Blumenthal, Dianne Feinstein).
    * * *
    Clinton was wrong to say recently that “civility can start again” only if Democrats win. Also wrong: Holder’s “kick them” remark, Waters’s call to harass Cabinet officials, and loudmouths who hound Ted Cruz and others in restaurants. Violence by the left, whether by antifa hooligans or the shooting at a Republican baseball practice, is as evil as violence by the right.

    But one public figure’s rhetoric has been more violent than all others, and he has the biggest megaphone. He encouraged supporters to “knock the crap out of” protesters and offered to pay attackers’ legal bills. He expressed his wish to punch a heckler in the face. He urged police not to “be too nice” to suspects. He shared a doctored video of himself attacking CNN in a wrestling match. He suggested supporters could use guns to stop Clinton judicial nominees and fantasized about Clinton’s security detail being taken away. Most recently, Trump hesitated to criticize Saudi Arabia for Saudi operatives’ killing of Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi as the president keeps up his attacks on journalists as enemies of the people.

    This has an effect. A man was arrested for threatening to shoot Boston Globe employeesthis summer, calling the paper the “enemy of the people.”

    After the bombs were discovered Wednesday, Trump offered a soothing message: “We have to unify. We have to come together.”

    Amen. But at Monday’s rally, Trump ridiculed almost those exact words, mocking Clinton’s campaign for having “some stupid slogan like ‘stay together.’ ”

    Actually, it was “Stronger Together.” If only our president believed that.

    Indeed.

  11. another 2016 discussion among lawyer types on incitement by the twit in 2016  law & crime:

    “I have little doubt that Trump’s language and general comportment does incite some of his followers to violent behavior, in the way we might use that word in lay English,” First Amendment attorney Floyd Abrams told LawNewz.com. However, legal liability is a different story. Abrams also pointed out that speech must be intentionally done to incite violence.
     
    “I doubt that Trump intended any untoward, let alone, illegal response to his macho posturing. That alone would take him out of the potentially actionable sphere. But it would not forgive him for what he is doing to our political system as a whole,” Abrams said.

     

    so it might not be a prosecutable crime, but might it not fall into the impeachment arena?  according to this guy (quoted by wiki) it would:  Benjamin Franklin asserted that the power of impeachment and removal was necessary for those times when the Executive “rendered himself obnoxious,” and the Constitution should provide for the “regular punishment of the Executive when his conduct should deserve it, and for his honorable acquittal when he should be unjustly accused.” 

  12. Andrew Gillum is a decent and smart guy… hope he wins.  And the same thing could be said about trumpty dumpty.

    and speaking of which…   the moron doesn’t realize that anything sent from an iPhone says “sent from an iPhone”.  Either that or he thinks his supporters only carry flip phones.

  13. RR

    I don’t think you can say that about most Republicans and definitely not about Trump

    I think he has average intelligence and he is  not a decent person

  14. What’s this “we” shit?  Republicans are the ones with the dangerous and volatile rhetoric.

    Trump is mounting his usual defense   deny deny deny

    And the media is doing its usual lame false equivalency act which only helps Trump and his band of trolls

     

  15. Apparently Little Nero is off to Wisconsin today to help revive the flagging campaign of Scott Walker. After eight years of low taxes, crumbling infrastructure, underfunded education and slow job growth the good folks there may be having second thoughts.

    Look for Trump to stir up more resentment and fear while he is there. It is all he has to sell and his supporters are eager buyers.

  16. So fat-ass the golfing president was in Texas for Lyin Ted and there were less than 20k at the so called “massive get out the vote” rally

    Even the Dallas paper begrudgingly pointed out the Beto/Willie Nelson rally had 50,000 while there were plenty of empty seats in a venue for less than 19k for fatass

  17. Republican racism was on full display for the eight years of the Obama Administration. Republicans denied it, and the media ignored it for the most part.

    Obama’s failure to get many of his programs passed had far less to do with political/policy differences than with republican distaste for a black mans agenda. We are right to condem Trump and his enablers for stoking racism and violence, but Republicans spent eight years making it not only possible but acceptable and main stream.The reason they can’t bring themselves to disown Trump is because they had a big hand in creating him and secretly they are happy with their handy work and happier still that no one in the media has ever seriously called them out for it.

  18. So, Twit is using a “government authorized” cellphone to tweet.

    Misuse of government property?

     

    Who had 12 hours in the when-will-Trump-resume-spouting-hate pool?

  19. KGC…  OMG… when I reread my post above, I can see how you misconstrued it…   my bad.  I meant that Gillum’s quote to DeSantis from Craig’s  headline…  “I’m not calling you

    a racist.  I’m saying that racists who support you call you a racist”…   could be said to trump.

    this stuff happens when you stay up late 2 nights in a row to watch baseball games…

  20. They are not all true believers who go to his rallies…….many are simply going to see the show……

    BTW…….I picked up the use of multiple dots from Nietzsche…..course they could have been the result of his fat head sister meddling in his writing, but what the hell, eh? Ya never know.

  21. crackers – Ted Cruz is not liked around these parts, even though he is a Repug.

    If Trump can’t get 20,000 to show up in Harris county, that may tell us that the early votes in TX are the big, blue wave needed to keep SFB in cheque for the next, two years…or until Bobby III pulls the rug out from under him after the election.

    Where is Yertle? Where is Ryan?  Where is Nunes?  Heck, where is Kanye? Does their silence mean they support the MAGAbomber?

  22. So, they’re sending military to the border to set up more camps?  When Trump says he’s militarizing the border, there is a big difference in what he wants his base to believe that means (turn them away at gunpoint, or worse) and what it actually means (building tent cities, etc.).

    And yet, the GOP refuses to do anything meaningful on immigration reform; nothing gets done to help those countries stamp out violence in their countries or build up their economies; the Catholic Church keeps telling everyone to have lots of babies, population explosion be damned.

  23. So far this World Series has been a yawner. The Sox are doing what they always do and the dodgers can’t put anything together. Not a ratings bonanza.

    Fox may be a football network but their coverage of the series is decidedly poor.

  24. wonkette on the iPhone story:

    [….]
    The New York Times broke the story last night, and it is chock full of funny lines that would make us for real LOL if we weren’t talking about the president of the United States and national security.
    The basic story is that Trump has three phones total — two iPhones that the Secret Service has rigged up real nice, including one that is just for Twitter. Presumably they were even nice enough to make the phones fun-sized so he can hold them in his little tiny child paws. The one he actually likes to use is the other iPhone, the one the Chinese and the Russian spies are listening to, which is completely insecure.
    According to the sources the New York Times talked to, the spies are listening to get good ideas about how to manipulate Trump, because he’s a very stupid idiot who is easy to manipulate. They are also keeping a list of all Trump’s friends, so they can use those people to try to manipulate him, business guys like Stephen Schwarzman of Blackstone and Steve Wynn.
    […]
    Trump reportedly clings to his unsecured phone like a gun or a Bible because that’s the one where he can store his contacts. Apparently there is literally no other way for the president of the United States to save the phone numbers of his close friends and family.
    NYT’s sources didn’t leak this because they are trying to go behind Trump’s back:

    The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the president’s casual approach to electronic security.

    So instead of telling the president, “HEY, THERE ARE LITERALLY SPIES LISTENING TO YOU RIGHT NOW,” they are telling him in the newspaper, through Maggie Haberman. Absorb that fact for a moment if you will.
    But NYT’s sources say it’s probably OK and the president probably isn’t spilling classified intel to his friends that is then intercepted by the Chinese and the Russians, because he is too fucking stupid to listen to his intelligence briefings and therefore doesn’t know any classified information:

    They said they had […] confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities.

    In other words, he’s a dipshit.
    […]
    Last night, at Trump’s low IQ Hitler rally, his congregated morons screamed “Lock her up!”… the ostensible reason they always chant it is because Hillary Clinton used a private email server that was allegedly vulnerable to hacking by foreign actors, though there’s no evidence her server was ever compromised.
    Dunno why we felt the need to point that out right now, but it just seemed pertinent.
     

  25. This has been a really crappy year for me. But, a Blue Tsunami will make it all worth while. I hope they find that the MAGAbombers are stephen miller, hannity, mercer, grassley, donjuan jr, brian kemp, and zinke.

  26. this stuff happens when you stay up late 2 nights in a row to watch baseball games…

    RR, but for Sox fans they were 2 very good nights.

  27. Jamie,  I wondered why I’d heard literally nothing about Yutu hitting the Marianas.  They are after all a US territory.  I saw a reference to it on the Weather Channel website, but aside from that, crickets.

  28. Local evening news:

    Two folks in Tarrant county (Ft Worth) said they voted a straight ticket & the machine switched their votes.

    (How they voted was not reported.)

    The machines were tested & nothing was found to be wrong, so IF it happened it was operator error.

    Make sure you understand how your voting machine works & double-check yourself.

  29. …regrettable that political animosity is tearing this country apart, but if it continues, hopefully Florida will tear-off first.

    That DeSantis is even the nominee demonstrates how absolutley terrible Floridians are… you know, besides CC, of course.

    (Ellipses for my audience)

  30. If you are using a smart phone to do email, you can change the signature block so it does not state “sent from Iphone” or “sent from Samsung Android”.  That he still has the “sent from Iphone” signature block really says his babysitters left that alone so everyone would know when he was allowed playtime on his phone.

     

  31. I gave up on Florida after they gave usG W Bush

    if they would like to leave the union along with Texas I say go quickly.

  32. Georgia was on the flip side of Florida so I lost Georgia too…….I was good with that, of course.

  33. I don’t mind Texans, some of my best friends are Texans.

     

    Hey, does voting early increase or decrease the likelihood of my vote being counted?  I’m asking with sincerity, because I know the Republican monsters in my state would love to throw out some blue votes.

  34. Yeah I have good friends from Texas too, but come July and August they all wish they were from Colorado.

  35. This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.”
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
    And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.
    “Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
    But he’ll remember, with advantages,
    What feats he did that day.
    Then shall our names,
    Familiar in his mouth as household words—
    Harry the King, 
    John_of_Lancaster,_1st_Duke_of_Bedford” Thomas_Beaufort,_Duke_of_Exeter”
    Richard_de_Beauchamp,_13th_Earl_of_Warwick” Thomas_Montacute,_4th_Earl_of_Salisbury”
    Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
    This story shall the good man teach his son;
    And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
    From this day to the ending of the world,
    But we in it shall be rememberèd—
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

  36. BID

    not looking to lose you just a few hundred thousand of your knuckle dragging neighbors. Enough say, to turn Texas reliably blue.?

  37. We few, we happy few, we band of sisters;
    For she to-day that sheds her blood with me
    Shall be my sister.

  38. Jace, I know that you and Mrs Jack, and your spouses, have had a far worse year than I have. I hope that we’ve all crested the worst.

  39. Two folks in Tarrant county (Ft Worth) said they voted a straight ticket & the machine switched their votes.
     
    (How they voted was not reported.)
     
    The machines were tested & nothing was found to be wrong, so IF it happened it was operator error.

    BiD, glad you emphasized the “IF” because this might be the beginning of the election-was-rigged accusations that will come from trumpistan when beto wins.

  40. however…. look what was reported by the hill yesterday:
    The Georgia NAACP reportedly filed complaints with the Georgia secretary of state saying some voting machines have been registering ballots cast for gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D) as votes for her GOP opponent, Brian Kemp.
    The civil rights chapter shared documents with USA Today that allege certain voting machines in Bartow County and Dodge County have failed to initially register the votes correctly.
    “We’ve experienced this before,” Phyllis Blake, president of the Georgia NAACP, told the publication. “They ended up taking these old dilapidated machines out of service. The ones giving the problems. They should have been replaced about 10 years ago.”
     
    Blake told the publication she intends to file two more complaints involving similar issues in both Henry County and Cobb County. The complaints filed so far were on behalf of eight voters.
    Pamela Grimes, one of those eight voters, told USA Today that she tried to cast a vote for Abrams several times at a polling site in Bartow County before the machine allowed her to unmark the box for Kemp and vote for Abrams.
    “I was not going to leave until everything was the way I wanted it,’’ Grimes said. “If I had not been focused, my vote would have went for him.”
    She added that she has since warned other voters “to pay attention at the polls.”
     

    […continues….]

  41. BiD…  we still fill in the circle with a sharpie…. then put the ballot through a scanning machine which tallies the votes.  What I love about the system is that it is simple and all ballots are preserved for anyone to see afterwards.  IMO, all voting systems should have a paper trail.

  42. For some inexplicable reason I’m not at all concerned about Sinead O’Connor converting to Islam.  But for those who care – here’s a link to CNN’s story about it.  I couldn’t get the BBC link BiD posted to connect.

    SFB is getting particularly harsh treatment this morning at the WaPo editorial page, and well deserved I might add.  And Eric Wemple is on fire about the lovely SHS. Couldn’t happen to a nicer spokesliar.

  43. the twit may be doing his distracting dances to divert attention from the New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood’s lawsuit.

     

    Bloomberg:

    No One Wanted Trump’s Portrait So His Charity Had to Buy It, Lawyer Says

    and

    cbs:

    New York judge grills Trump lawyers about foundation’s ties to campaign

  44. patd,  from that link to Bloomberg:

    When Donald Trump offered to pay $10,000 from his personal charitable foundation for a six-foot oil portrait of himself, the future president only meant to “get the bidding started” during a 2014 auction at his Mar-a-Lago resort, his lawyer told a New York judge.
    “No one else bid,” attorney Alan Futerfas said in a packed Manhattan courtroom on Thursday, so “he’s stuck with the painting.”

    Ummm, no, he’s not stuck with anything.  His charity should be stuck with it.  If I understand the situation, he converted charity property to his own use to hang in his own properties.  Is that the worst thing that “charity” has done? I seriously doubt it.

     

  45.  Is that the worst thing that “charity” has done? I seriously doubt it.

     

    pogo, art-wise, one can’t get much worse

  46. Streisand will probably be bombed next given songs in her newly released album as described by  the guardian:

    Barbra Streisand: ‘Trump is corrupt and indecent and is assaulting our institutions’

    […]
    Nowhere in the album is Trump mentioned by name. “You have to write lyrics that can be more than just a protest,” she says. “They have to appeal to a universal audience. Even when I wrote Don’t Lie to Me, at first I thought, well, I could make you think it’s like a love affair, a marriage breaking up. It’s a universal thought: don’t lie to me.”

    She is not, however, talking about a love affair. As the video for the song makes clear (“I couldn’t help it!”), she is talking about Donald Trump, who flashes up on screen and about whom, over the course of our conversation, Streisand is by turns calmly analytical – issuing measured statements rustled up by background assistants from her blogs and tweets – and intemperate. “I can’t bear the man!” she says at one point, her voice rising up to the roof. “He’s a man with no manners! He doesn’t see his own flaws; he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. You know? He has no humility.” He is, she concedes, “good at marketing. He knows how to sell; he’s a conman. That’s what he’s good at. But he doesn’t think he needs anyone’s help, he thinks he can go it alone.” She adds, drily: “The big guy.”
     
    Walls is not a concept album, but it is the first album in which Streisand has linked the songs with a broad theme – the danger Trump poses to the country she loves. “This is what’s on my mind,” she says. “This is a dangerous time in this nation, this republic: a man who is corrupt and indecent and is assaulting our institutions. It’s really, really frightening. And I just pray that people who are compassionate and respect the truth will come out and vote.” Actually, she says: “I’m saying more than just vote. Vote for Democrats! Vote for what they want their country to look like and feel like and be like. And treat each other with kindness and respect – I have friends who are Republicans and we have dinner and agree to disagree.”
    […]
    In fact, says Streisand, the whole exercise has been a release. “The first words I ever wrote about this album on a little piece of paper were: ‘Up is down, wrong is right, facts are fake, and friends are foes,’” she says. “And that became part of The Rain Will Fall. What [Trump is] doing is reversing reality, actually. It’s like that joke: a woman walks in and her husband is in bed with another woman. And he says, ‘Who are you going to believe, me or your lyin’ eyes?’
     
    “Facts matter,” she continues. “Words have meaning. This man defies that. He says climate change is a hoax. Let’s release more coal and carbon into the air and have more megafires and hurricanes. I mean he’s so stupid! He’s so ill-informed. Liar is not enough of a word. There must be a bigger word for someone who lies about everything.”
     

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    The Rain Will Fall has an anthemic quality about it, full of foreboding that, Streisand says, she “meant as prophetic. I meant it as if the word were spelled ‘reign’. In other words: [Trump] is like Humpty Dumpty, a fat egg, sitting on a wall, and one day he’s going to fall off the wall. And crack.” It is impossible to convey quite how much disdain she packs into the words “fat egg”, but it is so heartfelt we both burst out laughing.
    […continues…]

  47. “Don’t Lie To Me” music video written and directed by Barbra Streisand from her new album WALLS, available everywhere November 2.

  48. wanna bet on how soon Barbra gets sued for that vid?

    her defense should be that it’s just rhetorical hyperbole.

  49. Pogo,

    Thanks for the link.. pretty good endorsement all in all. Apparently the Dallas Morning news still believe that tax cuts and trickle down economics work if only they could be served up with a smile and a slap on the back.

  50. XR,

    thanks. It has been a terrible year health wise for both me and my wife, Mr and Mrs Jack as well. Hopefully next year will be more about living and not merely existing.

    A blue wave would help?

  51. Still marking ballots here with blue ink filling in the bubble. Mark ‘em and mail ‘ em

    Pretty simple and effective. A nice way to vote.

  52. Begins to appear that Jack may be right about old Avenooti…..Maybe he will scarf up an Act II……..ya never know sometimes……

  53. And now Katlyn Jenner regrets supporting Trump. A bit late to the party aren’t we?

    Wonder how much time a Clinton presidency would have devoted to rolling back trans gender rights? The results of the expirement were in even before it was run but the voters went ahead and poured the vinegar in the baking soda anyway.

    I suppose Icould bring myself to feel sorry for folks like that, except the consequences of their actions have been so dire.

    Spare us your belated regrets and misgivings. You were part of the problem then and you are no part of the solution now!

  54. Can you imagine how frustrating it is for senile old SFB with the news 100% covering a tow truck taking away a van covered in a blue tarp?  He must be turning purple.  What will he come up with this hour to get a shiny thing in front of the press?

  55. well well well what a surprise  the bomber  is a criminal Trump supporter
    a white van covered in trump crap

  56. I want to know why the lame-o media isn’t covering the fact that hardly anyone is coming to the SFB rallies.
    And let’s not forget he paid people to attend rallies

  57. RIP Matthew Shepard in your final resting place.  I still feel so badly for his parents.  Someone beat their baby to death.  Yes, he was an adult when it happened, but he was still their baby boy. If everyone could just remember that the other person is/was someone’s little baby…

  58. MAGAbomber – Cesar Sayoc

    – A registered Republican – had a twitter account with anti-Dem rants – frequently bashed Soros – attended at least one Trump rally – 56yo, Miami area resident

  59. Is the alleged perp alleged to have sent all 12 of the bombs ? Are there copycat MAGAbombers ?

  60. sturge, according to sun sentinel:
    He is a Seminole — or is he?
    Across his social media accounts, Sayoc proudly boasts of the “unconquered Seminole tribe” and how much the tribe supports President Trump. However, according to tribal spokesman Gary Bitner: “We can find no evidence that Cesar Altieri, Caesar Altieri, Caesar Altieri Sayoc, Ceasar Altieri Randazzo (Facebook) or Julus Cesar Milan (Twitter) is or was a member or employee of the Seminole Tribe of Florida, or is or was an employee of Seminole Gaming or Hard Rock International.”
    However, a 2013 arrest report filed by the Coral Springs Police Department for shoplifting from a J.C. Penney lists Sayoc’s employer as “Hard Rock.”
     

  61. also from that same sun sentinel story:

    A Twitter account believed to be his promotes the false claim that survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting were actors, and wishes for the deaths of George Clooney and Andrea Mitchell. It also features videos of the account holder, who looks very similar to Sayoc, delivering Papa John’s pizzas to a WalMart. The van impounded at the site of Sayoc’s arrest in Plantation was littered with pro-Trump stickers and pictures of prominent Democrats such as Elizabeth Warren with cross-hairs over their faces. His Facebook page, though now switched to private, previously showed him attending President Donald Trump’s inauguration.

  62. the guardian:  Summer Zervos not entitled to records of other Trump accusers, court rules

    […]
    In issuing her decision from the bench, Schecter said other women’s allegations are “completely unrelated to [Zervos] and her claim”, making them inadmissible.
     
    Schecter did greenlight Wang’s request for documents relating to Trump’s public statements on Zervos in the wake of her allegations.
     
    This includes documents that could prove or disprove Zervos’s claims.
     
    If Zervos’s allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump are true, then his denials could make for a defamation claim, Schecter reasoned.
     
    “In making the statements he made about the plaintiff, he may have done so with actual malice,” Schecter said of Trump.
    […]
    The proceeding came shortly after lawyers for Trump and Zervos argued over the legal viability of the case in a New York appeals court. Trump’s lead lawyer on the case, Marc Kasowitz, had unsuccessfully asked Schecter to dismiss Zervos’s case on purported presidential immunity grounds.
     
    The US constitution’s supremacy clause – which holds that federal law is the top law in the country – shields Trump from state-level legal action, Kasowitz has claimed.
     
    Schecter previously wrote in a prior decision: “No one is above the law. It is settled that the president of the United States has no immunity and is ‘subject to the laws’ for purely private acts.”
     
    The appeals panel has yet to issue a decision.
    [….continues…]

  63. So fat ass the golfing president tried to promote the idea that the bomber is a Democrat.

    ……talk about fake.

  64. Greedy old perverts flopping around like a landed catfish.  Not doing too good trying to come up with a working meme to cover a magabomber who is a SFB cult member.  So far the only one likely to stick is the guy dropped off the edge of sanity and is somewhere floating in his own universe.  But, that also describes the mob boss the magabomber adores.  And the gop does not want to make him sound crazy.

  65. Hey trumpty dumpty…  how do you like the MagaBomber as an October surprise.

    fucking morons…

  66. Jace – forgot to comment on poor little rich girl Caitlyn.  When she gets around to standing up in public with a voter registration form to be a Dem and she denounces her life as a republican, and she denounces all that the greedy old perverts stand for, and then she fund raises (along with tossing in a few of her millions) to support trans people across the world getting out of the sex industry. When she stands on a street corner in clothes she got off the racks of a charity and then helps feed trans and other poor people.  when she builds houses for trans and other poor people. She sells off her properties, and donates all that to LGBTQ centers around the world.  When she goes to the White House with our #WontBeErased protests and stands with us.  Maybe I will consider things about her differently.   Her work on behalf of SFB cannot be ignored.  She caused a few votes for the senile old narcissist.

    Until Jenner is a Dem or at a minimum an Indie, blattttt.

  67. so far Trump has invoked the other side does it too – citing the Bernie Sanders supporter who shot at the Republican softball team

    omg I just heard an interview with a Trump supporter who said she heard it was a Bernie Sanders supporter who did it. And despite evidence to the contrary she will always believe that…..that is who those maroons are

  68. KC, invoking that particular comparison doesn’t strike me as convincing – a crazy supporter of a seemingly crazy politician?   Sounds pretty close to what we saw this week.   (And I am NOT saying Bernie is crazy, but if you asked 5 republicans I bet you’d get 5 yeses to the question).

    How many Bernie supporters drive around in vans festooned with images of trump? I’m guessing the answer is none.

  69. The good news is that most of them aren’t smart enough to carry out what Cesar-what’s-it did.

  70. And for all you Melanoma apologists she is all in with her hubs.  She said she wore the famous I don’t care jacket to wind up the media

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