Convening coincidentals

Tulsa, home and 99th anniversary of one of the worse white on black massacres in America, on Juneteenth was bad enough but here they go again.

New York Times:

The event for Mr. Trump in Jacksonville, not in Charlotte, N.C., as planned, coincides with one of the darkest days in the city’s history. The president will address his supporters on the 60th anniversary of “Ax Handle Saturday,” when a white mob organized by the Ku Klux Klan attacked mostly black civil rights protesters sitting at the city’s whites-only lunch counters. The attackers hid ax handles in the brush at Hemming Park, said Alan Bliss, the executive director of the Jacksonville Historical Society.

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  2. only masks with eyeholes and pointy tops are allowed at the rallies

    and one must sign certain rights away before entering 

    wapo:

    The sign-up page for tickets to President Trump’s campaign rally in Tulsa next week includes something that hasn’t appeared ahead of previous rallies: a disclaimer noting that attendees “voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19” and agree not to hold the campaign or venue liable should they get sick.
    […]
    At the bottom of the registration page for tickets to the upcoming Trump campaign rally is a disclaimer notifying attendees that “by clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present.”
    “By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury,” the notice states.

  3. ….like a knife through butter…. WaPo.

    President Trump praised the use of tear gas and other force to disperse Minneapolis protesters, calling it a “beautiful scene” and describing the National Guard’s actions “like a knife cutting butter.”

    “I’ll never forget. You saw the scene on that road … they were lined up. Man, they just walked straight. And yes, there was some tear gas and probably some other things,” Trump said in opening remarks at a roundtable on policing and race. “And the crowd dispersed and they went through. By the end of that evening, and it was a short evening, everything was fine.”

    Trump’s event at a conservative, evangelical and predominantly white church in Dallas on Thursday afternoon came as the White House has yet to announce what new measures it might support in response to the protests against racial injustice that have gripped the nation since the killing of George Floyd by a police officer.
    (Continues)

    Lovin’ that police state boogie I suppose. 

  4. I just learned that Lady Antebellum changed its name to Lady A in the wake of the George Floyd killing and the racism discussion over the past week. Good on them. 

  5. raw story quoting mojo re rally waiver:

    “There is another way I could have written this,” he added. “I tried to help them out with a succinct tweet, and it goes something like this: ‘Come to our rally. P.S., it could kill you, but that’s your problem.’”

     

  8. pogo, what’s your take on the waiver’s viability where the magaTs are encouraged not to wear masks or to socially distance themselves if they come to his rally?

    they’re saying “you can’t come unless you sign the waiver to sue us if you catch covid and you can’t come if you try to protect yourself from catching covid”

    a real catch 22

  9. KY update in email from amy McGrath campaign this morning:

    Team, Kentucky is ready for change—and a big change is brewing in Kentucky’s 6th District, where my friend and fellow Marine Josh Hicks is running neck-and-neck with Andy Barr. You might remember Barr and his record of doing the bidding of corporate special interests. (He also happens to be Mitch McConnell’s former intern—small world…)
    But there’s bad news for Andy Barr: In KY-06, which some call the “swing district” of Kentucky, just 30% of voters approve of Mitch, and 58% disapprove. The McConnell playbook of putting partisan politics ahead of people has failed Kentucky, leaving both Mitch and his former interns vulnerable.

  10. Lady A also changed the name of their hit song from “Need You Now” to “Eye in the Sky” by Alan Parsons Project.

  11. from mother jones re renaming bases:

    On Wednesday, President Donald Trump went on a toot about Confederate generals. The spark for his anger was the renewed push to rename the 10 United States military bases named after Confederate officers—that is, people who took up arms against the United States to preserve slavery. According to the president, those bases are part of a tradition of “Winning, Victory, and Freedom.”
    […]
    Trump sees all problems as nails that can be fixed with his handy racism hammer, but on this issue, at least, that impulse has left him on an island apart from others in his own party. Although he expressed his optimism that Republicans “won’t fall for this,” the idea quickly picked up steam. On Thursday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) signaled he’d be open to renaming the bases, and a number of Senate Republicans endorsed an amendment authored by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) mandating that the bases be renamed within three years. Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D) told Talking Points Memo he didn’t see the point of naming a base after a “traitor.” Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) noted that Braxton Bragg, for whom Fort Bragg is named, “was probably the worst commanding general in the Confederate army.” The Republican-controlled Senate Armed Services Committee approved Warren’s amendment by voice vote.
    Fort Tubman here we come.

  12. the guardian re tulsa riot & rally:

    Over two days of violence, according to a later Red Cross estimate, 1,256 houses were burned, and two newspaper offices, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.
    Although the official tally at the time claimed just 36 people had been killed, historians believe the number to be considerably higher. In 2001, the report of the Race Riot Commission suggested there were between 100 and 300 deaths.
    The US journalist Dan Rather said on Twitter: “So. Let’s set the stage… President Trump has chosen as the venue for his first rally in months, Tulsa, Oklahoma, site of a horrific massacre of African Americans. And he has set the date for June 19th, Juneteenth, a celebration of the end of slavery in the United States.”
    The LA Times tweeted on its official account: “The Trump rally will occur on Juneteenth Day, when many Americans commemorate the end of slavery, in a city that was home to an infamous 1921 massacre of Black people, one of the worst racial atrocities in the nation’s history.”
    Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser to the Trump campaign, said that as the party of Lincoln, Republicans were proud of the history of Juneteenth.
    The campaign was aware that the date for the president’s return to rallies was Juneteenth, according to two campaign officials, who were not authorised to speak publicly about internal discussions and spoke on condition of anonymity.
    They said that when the date was discussed, it was noted that Biden had held a fundraiser a year ago on Juneteenth. Although choosing 19 June was not meant to be incendiary, some blowback was expected, the officials said. But the campaign was caught off guard by the intensity, particularly when some linked the selection to the 1921 massacre.

  13. So, President bunker-boy said this, yesterday, at some sort of vampire gathering:
     
    ” You’ve got 30 names you can call this thing. I call it the plague from China. The plague. And it’s not good. And it’s not good. It could have been stopped in China but they decided not to do that and we’ll have to figure that one out won’t we.”
     
    By that logic, it could have been stopped in the U.S.A.  
     
    trump is so dumb he just admitted he’s a complete failure.

  14. The U.S. is changing very fast.  The structures that held for decades are crumbling away like sugar cubes melting in a pot of water.  These changes are generational.  Those that held dear the racist strictures are now buried in cemeteries, with only their children to keep the bonds tight.  Those bonds are breaking as the children of the children of the children of those who fought to end slavery are finally waking to renew the fight.  Enforcement by militarized police is coming down, the light being shined on them.  So much is happening so fast.  It is a very exciting time to be alive.

  16. Turning and turning in the widening gyre   
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere   
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst   
    Are full of passionate intensity.
     
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.   
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out   
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert   
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,   
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,   
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it   
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.   
    The darkness drops again; but now I know   
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,   
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,   
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    [The Second Coming by Yeats]

  17. And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,   

     

    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

     

  18. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502426-bolton-book-to-argue-trump-misconduct-with-other-countries-report

    An attorney for Bolton said this week that the publication of the highly anticipated memoir will proceed as scheduled despite several warnings from the White House that the book contains classified information.
    The book is currently scheduled to hit shelves on June 23, although a White House lawyer on Wednesday said that it needs further revisions.
    In a passage from the epilogue of the book, Bolton also alleges that Trump directed “the seizure and withholding of my advisors’ personal and other unclassified documents,” amid other claims of “outright threats of censorship.
    “As if impeachment were not enough, I also found myself confronting the daunting challenge of fighting an incumbent President determined to prevent publication of a book about my White House experiences. Trump behaved typically, directing the seizure and withholding of my advisors’ personal and other unclassified documents, despite numerous requests for their return; obstructing my Twitter account; and making outright threats of censorship,” Bolton wrote.
    “His reaction thus ranged from the mean-spirited to the constitutionally impermissible. My reaction… my response? Game on,” Bolton continued.

  19. If John Bolton had testified in SFB’s impeachment trial, I would gladly buy his book.  IMO, he should have opened his mouth when it mattered.  But like the greedy yellow bellied republican he is… he didn’t so he could sell you his book to know what he knows.  He won’t get one cent of my hard earned money.

  20. Bink, I’m not really a fan, but that’s something for a country group. 
    Patd, that waiver is a contract of adhesion. They generally are disfavored in the law, but it would be hard to argue that anyone who agreed to the waiver didn’t understand that they were agreeing to waive that risk or that somehow the waiver was hidden. So I think it would probably stand up. The easy defense would be that the people know about it but they were just too stupid to object and vote with their feet and not go to the rallies. 

  21. I am not a lawyer.  However…  as a former skier with a still avid skiing husband…  I do know that every ticket purchased at a ski area says on the back of it… that with this purchase you are agreeing that skiing is inherently dangerous and you accept responsibility for any accidents that occur while you are skiing on this resort (paraphrased).  I’ve never heard of a ski area being successfully sued over an accident.

  24. renee & pogo, using that ski example, if the owners had shoddy equipment and unkempt slopes wouldn’t that put a  fly in the defense ointment even if the injured party had signed the waiver?

    i’m just wondering about the less stupid magaT who wears a mask into the rally but is told to take it off once inside, finds it difficult to isolate from crowd and is unable to continue self-protection. 

  25. mediaite:

    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo signed an executive order on Friday requiring police department across the state to reform or lose funding following nationwide protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.
    The New York State Police Reform & Reinvention Collaborative will “require local governments and police agencies” to “develop a plan that reinvents and modernizes police strategies and programs in their community.”
    During a press conference, Cuomo said, “This is not about a press release that’s going to solve it. The way we really solve this is we say to every police agency in this state — I believe should happen in the nation — ‘sit down at the table with the local community, address these issues, get to the root of these issues, get a plan, pass that plan by your local government, and if you don’t, you’re not going to get any additional state funds.’ Period.”
    “We’re not going to fund police agencies in this state that do not look at what has been happening, come to terms with it, and reform themselves,” he declared. “We’re not going to be, as a state government, subsidizing improper police tactics. We’re not doing it.”

  26. patd…  I said what is printed on the back of a ski ticket….   I don’t know the answer to your question.  As I said, I am not a lawyer.  

  27. (CNN)Part of the reason first lady Melania Trump delayed her move from New York City to the White House in 2017 was because she was renegotiating her prenuptial agreement with President Donald Trump, according to a book out next week by a Washington Post reporter.
    Author Mary Jordan cites sources close to Trump as saying her intent in doing so was to “amend her financial agreement with Trump — what Melania referred to as ‘taking care of Barron.’ The book, titled, “The Art of Her Deal: The Untold Story of Melania Trump,” is based on more than a hundred interviews, according to the Post.
    According to the Post, the book said the first lady needed time to cool off after the President’s alleged sexual indiscretions and Jordan writes that three people close to Trump say that this new prenuptial agreement ensured that Barron would not be shut out of the family business.
    “She wanted proof in writing that when it came to financial opportunities and inheritance, Barron would be treated as more of an equal to Trump’s oldest three children,” writes Jordan.
    Donald Trump has many times shared publicly his support of the idea of protecting one’s wealth with a prenuptial agreement. He told CNN’s Larry King in 1997: “I’m a big pre-nup believer, even though they’re nasty terrible documents. I’m a big believer in that stuff.”
    A spokeswoman for the first lady dismissed the book and it’s reporting.

  28. Again re: Tulsa super MAGA spread event…GOOD!  Thinning his deplorable, voting herd. They all get the Darwin Award.
     
    The unfortunate thing is that those deplorables probably interact with other folks, hopefully like them. But, in any case, it’ll super spread the sometimes deadly virus!
     
    Those who survive & procreate will look back or their offspring will look back at this time and say WTF??  God must be on vacation because this is a dark time in US history. Something like the middle ages.

  29. I listen to Cuomo everyday because he’s the only beacon of info. While NY is doing well with the virus, all it’ll take is one Texan to fly into LaGuardia or one Tulsan to drive a truck into Albany, and BAM there they go again.  SAD! 

  30.  Probably sue the agency responsible for inspecting ski lifts etc

  31. Injury waivers on Ski lift tickets are a perfect example of a conTract of adhesion. Some folks are aware of them, some aren’t, and it would be exceedingly rare to find anyone who could tell you what they say. 

  32. SFB keep it up!  You are killing your own voters.  There aren’t many Goopers.  Not a good strategy but ok with me.

  33. Ski resorts have been sued for slope markers in the wrong locations, gondolas falling off the wires, and stuff like that.  But like all public venues they like to settle out of court.
     
    The big piece of the campaign infection fight would be proving that the person got the virus from the event. 
    However
     
    I just read that seven strains of the novel coronavirus have been identified.  Hypothetically one could find others who were infected with the same strain and with some work might show that it was not in the home vicinity of the victims, but it was only at the event. 

  34. Ms Pat,
     
    The waiver wouldn’t hold if someone died in a fire there, or caught legionnaire’s disease from the AC. Re being told to remove the mask, depends on who did the telling and the level of compulsion used. Also, juries are very tricky critters.
     
    Acourse, I’m not a lawyer and civil law is way too complex for me. That’s why G!D makes folks like Mr Pogo. 

  35. I s’pose Dolly Parton, Beyoncé, Bob Dylan, The Shirelles, Willie Nelson, Stevie Wonder, and Sir Paul could drop everything and hold a ‘street concert’ in the parking lot about three hours before fatboy is supposed to arrive. That’d clog up access to trump’s event, drawing attention away from him and toward something more important and uplifting.
     
    Just a thought.

  36. juries are very tricky critters

    XR, that’s why ms renee’s (non-lawyer and potential juror) response is also important to hear. nightmares of tricky jury critters can be the stuff of settlement motivation.

    these waivers remind me of those dozens of NDAs lurking in Donald’s closet 

  37. patd, I was just thinking of his NDA’s.  What a pig he is. Just going & blowing through life!!

  38. I’m currently spending the second day & countless hours trying to straighten out my PayPal account since the bank merged with another bank.
    It’s purgatory! It keeps looping around and then it sends me to Synchrony Bank that does their own credit cards.  Beenn there twice today.  The last woman said they’re not answering the phone!  What a shitfull company!

  39. So here’s a link to an explanation of ski area injuries and litigation.  Given that those contracts of adhesion on lift passes are ubiquitous, I’d have to say that they don’t serve the purpose of protecting the resorts.  That said, if the agreement is  clear enough and brought to the attention of the skier, it can work to bar recovery in a suit, e.g. this one from Mt. Bachelor. As any decent lawyer will tell you when you ask whether you can…. “It depends.”

  40. Pogo, interesting info.  There’s always something. I’m thinkinig of Sonny Bono and Natasha Richardson both who died as a result of a ski injury. 

  41. Tiptoe, consider involving the merchant with whom you made the original purchase. They’re the ones that have the original arrangement with Pay Pal.

  42. Pogo…. interesting reading about ski areas.  I ended my skiing career with an accident.  I was on Cannon Mt (the place where Olympian Bode Miller trained)… it’s famous for being icy.  I saw this big patch of ice and tightened up instead of relaxing and letting my body do what it was trained to do.  I wound up taking a sled down the mountain behind a ski patrol person as my knee was throbbing from a hard fall. Luckily, my knee healed with rest… but I never considered suing the mountain.

  45. World’s worst skier here. My motto is
     
    I FALL.
     
    If the lift cable parts, you may be able to collect under implied warranty. Maybe. 

  46. Trump on FoxNews “Let’s take a pass on Abraham Lincoln because he did good, although it’s always questionable.”

    Guess numb nuts thinks freeing the slaves was too soon.

  48. Trump to Fox News on what happens if re-election bid goes south: “If I don’t win, I don’t win. You go on, do other things. “I think it would be a very sad thing for our country.”

    Lol, sad for the country, how delusional he is. I’ll be wanting to party! 

  49. I agree with Mr Bink. When trump loses the election, he’ll bolt. I’m not sure that he’ll bother to resign. He may just continue to be the lame dog president residing in Moscow, Riyadh, Tel Aviv, or Dubai until his term runs out. Why would he let pisspoor mike pence get his name in the history books ? Nah, they’d have to 25A trump, and barr would fight that in the cabinet room fang and claw and all the way up to the Supremes.
     
    In the UAE and saudi Arabia trump can rape servant girls to his heart’s content, the way the natives do. On the other claw, how do you golf in countries that are 1/3 rough and 2/3 sand trap ? 

  50. Craig – I find it very interesting that SFB has compared his fat stupid ass to President A. Lincoln many times. Abe is an obsession with the idiot.  Why?  We need teams of shrinks to decipher the orange blob.  But, he focuses on Lincoln.  Lincoln was one of the great if not the greatest presidents of our country.  Is it that one was the top and the other is lost in madness? 
     
    SFB may have hidden in the bunker more than once.   He has compared himself to great leaders many times, Churchill in his latest spew of garbage.  Oh wait, I forgot he compared himself to President Lincoln again, in that Lincoln saved slaves and he (loser) did something to them.  If I understand the mutterings of a someone not using all his faculties. 
     
    Churchill hid in bunkers, even in WWI when he was on the front lines.  Something SFB would never consider.  Lincoln stood on the forts surrounding Washington, D. C. until troops pulled him back into a bunker to avoid being shot by the confederate forces.  Can you imagine the orange blob doing anything like that?
     
    I expect that after SFB is removed from the WH and all the locks and special doors are removed we will hear some wild tales.  Almost all will be proven true.

  51. I’ve fallen off of a chairlift.  I’ve semi-fallen off and had my ski stuck in the lift seat because the bindings in my boots were too tight; they had to shut down the lift to extract me, but thank goodness the lift operator was paying attention.  I’ve fallen going up a tow rope (never lean in a tow top).    The best part of skiing is the hot cocoa. 

  52. BB – It’s tRump’s attempt at a Jedi mind trick.  Just keep telling the lie and projecting yourself into a scenario or saying you’re aligned with someone, and some folks will buy it.  He’s an effing Sith. 

  53. Orange Julius has moved his coronation to Jacksonville…in August…during hurricane season.   Ha!

  57. Query:   Does he have a “Rosebud” in any of those places he lives?  Or even a personal possession of any kind?

  58. So far the number of arsonists/shooters in the TC riots are
    3 out of staters, 5 suburpanites, and 2 St Paulites : 2 city guys and 8 outsiders.

  59. Transgender Health Protections Reversed By Trump Administration
    The Trump administration Friday finalized a rule that would remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people when it comes to health care and health insurance.

    “HHS respects the dignity of every human being, and as we have shown in our response to the pandemic, we vigorously protect and enforce the civil rights of all to the fullest extent permitted by our laws as passed by Congress,” said Roger Severino, who directs the Office for Civil Rights in the Department of Health and Human Services, in written statement announcing that the HHS rule had become final. The rule is set to go into effect by mid-August.

    Trump again satisfying Pence and his ilk. Some back in 2016 said Pence wouldn’t be that bad. Yes the evidence was there but the HRC hate prevailed in the media and with the Sarrandon types. Gays just another group hurt in a long long list of peoples. The Trump Administration is toxic. Kids are still in cages. Tragic.
    😡

  62. Mr Sturgeone, Everything is His personal possession. This is His world, and we are mere worker ants and fodder in it. His job is to get His money out of our pockets.

  63. sturge, personal possession?  yeah that 6ft painting of him that he bought with charity money and hung in mal an ego (or might be at badmister golf club).  probably along side his fake time magazine cover.

    his form of a binkie to comfort him. Nixon talked to Lincoln portrait in WH, Donald talks to his own and probably fondles it while doing so.

  65. Sturg, he’s got his copy of Mein Kampf. 
    RR, I skied Cannon 2 seasons. You’re right – steep but icy. Never had a bad fall there – I was 4 years into skiing by then – but it was typical state managed and maintained ski “resort” (crappy).  I had a sled ride at Waterville Valley – dislocated shoulder. Couldn’t get my instructor to reduce it for me. After my 11th dislo I knew how to talk her through it, but NOOOO. Wuss. I Took a week off then skiied With one pole after that. 

  66. “ Donald talks to his own and probably fondles it while doing so.”
     
    i’ve heard there’s not much to fondle, surprise surprise.

  67. Oh Bink
    “I’ve heard there’s not much to fondle, surprise surprise.”
    I laugh uncontrollably! 😂 😂 😂 
     

  70. Well, Pogo, i don’t know if my butternut squash got zapped by gamma radiation or was bitten by a radioactive spider, but i’m gonna need a bigger boat.

  74. xrep had a great idea about a concert to counter the Tulsa rally.  Protesters just feed him; it’s want he wants.  Turning your back in him and doing something positive to draw folks in would be the smart thing to do.   Protest the day before and the day after, but have a concert with messaging that is counter to SFB (peace, equality) without ever mentioning him or the Russo-publicans. 

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