Who’s the joke?

President Trump called his own justice system a “joke” — a “laughing stock” — What is he talking about? Can anybody name a terrorist in this country who didn’t get jail or the death penalty?

“Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg told Vanity Fair. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked.”

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Author: craigcrawford

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39 thoughts on “Who’s the joke?”

  1. SFB never misses an opportunity to remind us that he knows nothing, what he thinks he knows is wrong and what he says about what he knows nothing about is just made up bullshit nonsense. God are screwed or what?

    And XR, bless your heart, whether it means anything to you or not, you are a liberal.

  2. craig, as was quoted by bw last thread, sounds like the joke in chief agrees with his usda nominee who said

    “I have enough of a science background to know when I’m being boofed.”

     

    bw, releasing all that al Qaeda propaganda sounds a bit like abetting and spreading it… or am I just being boofed?

     

    travis, your dodgers did win in being the stars by which you steered thru a turbulent time.  so glad they were there for you and that now you are here for us, your trail friends.

  3. cnbc:

    The White House on Wednesday flatly denied that President Donald Trump had ever called the American criminal justice system “a joke and a laughingstock,” just hours after Trump said precisely that during a televised Cabinet meeting. (See comments at 3:36 in clip above)

    “We need quick justice and we need strong justice — much quicker and much stronger than we have right now — because what we have right now is a joke, and it’s a laughingstock,” Trump said at the meeting.

    [….]

    A few hours after Trump’s Cabinet meeting, CNN’s Jim Acosta asked White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, “Why did the president call the U.S. justice system a joke and a laughingstock?”

    “That’s not what he said,” Sanders replied. “He said that process has people calling us a joke and a laughingstock.”

    guess the jokes on us, huh, sarah?

  4.  

    it’s not like we didn’t know. salon warned us almost 2 years ago: “Donald Trump is The Joker: Forget Mussolini and Hitler, the GOP strongman is an authoritarian populist straight from Hollywood”

    [….]
    What does any of this have to do with Donald Trump? Just this: Trump has traded on those movie archetypes, and, as I said earlier, we also have imposed them on him. On the one hand, Trump fits the mold of the disrupter: the guy who confounds and unhinges authority. When his supporters say that the thing they like best about him is that he speaks his mind and that he is unfettered by civility and politesse, they are not talking politics; they are talking pop culture where that sort of figure, as I said, is cherished.


    And when Trump poses as the strongman who can solve any problem and defeat any foe through the force of his personality, he fits the mold of the superhero for whom politics is a messy obstacle. This is the authoritarian appeal that analysts have found in Trump: He will get things done. He’ll build a wall. He’ll deport undocumented immigrants. He’ll destroy ISIS. He’ll tell China where to get off. That’s not a political platform. It’s the plot of a Marvel movie.


    Authoritarian populism, one part Superman, one part Groucho, sounds like an oxymoron, and it is. It also happens to be an attractive substitute for people who loathe politics, which is why traditional politicians have an impossible time navigating them the way Trump, a non-politician, has. You hear people say they don’t want another politician. You don’t hear them voice the corollary: They want someone out of a movie — someone supra-political.


    That’s Trump. But here’s the problem with reconfiguring our politics as a movie in which characters actually make things happen. Sometimes you get Batman. Sometimes, though, you get the Joker.

  5. We were told; many just didn’t listen. SPY Magazine was detailing *45’s lies and idiocies for in the early 1990s. They spent six years on that sorry topic.

     

  6. horsey article at latimes: Sarah Huckabee Sanders is the right mouthpiece for a truth-twisting president

    […]

    Anyone who is going to be tasked with the job of explaining this president to the news media needs to be comfortable with saying things that are demonstrably not true. That was the problem with Sanders’ predecessor, Sean Spicer. Lying seemed to fluster him. When he was challenged on any blatantly erroneous statement, he would get red-faced and petulant. It was as if he was trying to signal a message to reporters: “Come on, guys, lay off! Don’t make me humiliate myself on live TV!”

    That may be why, toward the end of Spicer’s short time in the job, cameras were banned from briefings and he even conducted one exchange with reporters while huddled in the bushes outside the White House.

    Sanders betrays no qualms about her role. She delivers the daily load of fibs and evasions in a flat, emotionless voice and, if questioned, keeps her cool, repeats her fallacious statements and sneers as if she hopes there is a firing squad waiting outside for the upstart journalist.

    [..continues..]

  7. Pat – The stars I steered by; an elegant phrase. Indeed they were.

    Now I feel like I need a distraction from my distraction. I need that day when I can look back fondly at a truly wonderful season of achievement. Right now all I see is unfinished business.

    Oh well. I guess that’s the life of a former athlete turned fan. Sometimes you win and that’s awesome. Most times you don’t, and life goes on anyway.

  8. I genuinely admire Secretary Clinton & believe her to be one of the smartest, gifted Public Servants in our history. But The Clintons Inc. have a proven track record of attracting detritus in their orbit that speaks ill of their judgment. This is not written with gloating. It’s actually quite sad. They are their own worst enemies.

     

  9. Who’s the joke?   I’d say it’s all of us…  but especially those that sit on their hands during an election…  they deserve the jester’s hat.

    Well…  I was rooting for the Astros because I always root for the American League (unless it’s the Yankees).  But I gotta say that because I’m a life long Red Sox fan…  and Dave Roberts is a Red Sox legend…   I would have been happy if the Dodgers had won.  Sorry TravisC….  and especially sorry Jamie.  My teams have won plenty of championships while I’ve been on this blog.  I’d have been happy to be saying Congrats to you this morning.

  10. the twit again violates his oath to uphold the constitution in his flagrant disregard it seems of the 6th amendment right to a fair trial in addition to his previous statements against the 1st amendment guarantee of a free press (and religion in the case of muslims)

    nytimes via msn:

    [….]

    Mr. Trump’s call for capital punishment for Mr. Saipov, however, introduced a surprise complication that may burden prosecutors and help defense attorneys. Mr. Trump first broached the subject in a Twitter message posted shortly before midnight on Wednesday evening.

    Presidents are typically advised never to publicly weigh in on pending criminal cases. Such comments can be used by defense attorneys to argue that their clients cannot get a fair trial — especially when the head of the executive branch that will prosecute a case advocates the ultimate punishment before a judge has heard a single shred of evidence at trial.

    […]

    Mr. Trump was unflinchingly vocal about Sergeant Bergdahl as a candidate, calling him a “dirty rotten traitor” who should be executed. A military judge in February called the comments “disturbing and disappointing,” but decided since they were made when Mr. Trump was a private citizen, not the president, they did not constitute undue command influence.

    Mr. Trump was more restrained when asked about Sergeant Bergdahl’s case last month, but not so much that it did not come up in court. “I can’t comment on Bowe Bergdahl,” Mr. Trump told reporters in the Rose Garden. “But I think people have heard my comments in the past.”

    After concerns were raised about the “but” in his comment, the White House sought to mitigate any possible damage with a statement. “The president expects all military personnel who are involved in any way in the military justice process to exercise their independent professional judgment, consistent with applicable laws and regulations,” the statement said.

    Col. Jeffery R. Nance, the Army judge presiding over the case, rejected a request that he dismiss the case or limit the potential sentence because of Mr. Trump’s remarks, saying he had not been influenced. But he indicated that he would weigh the president’s comments before determining punishment. “I will consider the president’s comments as mitigation evidence as I arrive at an appropriate sentence,” he said.

  11. t….he White House sought to mitigate any possible damage with a statement. “The president expects all military personnel who are involved in any way in the military justice process to exercise their independent professional judgment, consistent with applicable laws and regulations,” the statement said.

    hey, tell that to the various judges and courts he’s disparaged

  12. bet he’ll also have a lot to say about the judicial system being a joke and laughable in this case if the dems win the release.

    from nytimes via msnHouse Democrats Take Demands for Trump Hotel Records to Court

    Democrats from the House Oversight Committee, stonewalled by the Trump administration and fuming at their Republican colleagues, sued the General Services Administration on Thursday to try to force the release of documents relating to its lease with the Trump International Hotel here.

    The suit, which has little legal precedent, is likely to be a key test of Democrats’ ability to force oversight of the Trump administration without control of committees or subpoena power in either chamber of Congress. They have accused Republicans who control both of neglecting their responsibility to hold the administration to account.

    A victory in court would grant the lawmakers immediate access to government documents related to the hotel’s operations and lease that they say would shed light on its finances, possible foreign payments to the hotel and the G.S.A.’s ruling that the hotel did not violate the terms of its lease when President Trump took office. A favorable ruling would also open a fruitful avenue for Oversight Committee Democrats to use on other issues.

    [….]

    At issue is the historic Old Post Office building in Washington that the Trump Organization leased from the federal government and transformed into a luxury hotel with upscale bars and restaurants. Critics have charged that the hotel has become a conduit for foreign governments, lobbyists and other special interests seeking favor with the president to channel money to the Trump family.

    But Democratic efforts to look into the hotel’s financial transactions have gone nowhere. The latest Democratic gambit hinges on an obscure 1928 law allowing members of the Oversight Committee to demand information from the executive branch without a subpoena or the support of the committee’s chairman. Known as the “Seven Member” rule, the law specifically says that any seven members of the committee, regardless of political party, can sign a request that an agency must comply with.

    Lawmakers from both parties have invoked the rule in the past, although sparingly. In 1994, Republican committee members twice used it to obtain documents from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the government’s Office of Thrift Supervision.

    [….]

    Separation of powers cases can take years to wind through the courts, but Mr. Rozell said a ruling in the Democrats’ favor could open the door to a flood of document requests and with it a potential constitutional showdown over the executive branch’s prerogative to protect certain information.

    “If they can prevail in this case, then it’s open game for these members to go after just about any and all information they want from the executive branch,” Mr. Rozell said.

  13. Just read the Brazile piece, lol

    Lets see, Team Obama mismanaged the Democratic party so badly that financially it was on the verge of collapse. Team Clinton came in gave the party an emergency loan, signed an agreement to fund raise for the party and pulled it’s ass out of the fire and she is the bad guy because her team insisted that a spendthrift organization not be in control of the money she and her group raised  and put them on a budget. Mrs Jack calls that the little red hen problem.

    In other words some organizations aren’t worth belonging to as not all pull their weight.

    Looks like the Democratic party may be one of those.

    Jack.

  14. bill clinton was correct per reports, hillary should not have written that book and she should have omitted that chapter about trashing the dnc.  I think sj is correct, brazile is no saint and not that effective, but this is big news…plus the knife flinging, tears and late night phone calls.   No future in beating trump over this, but who knows if this can be put back together.  The dems need some new blood and leaders at the dnc as bern is an independent.  Politics…the villain of democracy.

  15. brazile got boofed, bernie got boofed, clinton got boofed, wasserman-schultz got boofed…we will be reliving the 2016 election forever.

  16. “Team Clinton came in gave the party an emergency loan, signed an agreement to fund raise for the party and pulled it’s ass out of the fire and she is the bad guy because her team insisted that a spendthrift organization not be in control of the money she and her group raised  and put them on a budget.”

    jack, don’t you know by now that it’s always Hillary’s fault?    🙂    she can do no right even when she does.

  17. bw, the following from the vox link hints to a rather interesting primary in 2020:

    The release of the book’s confrontational title seems to be part of Comey’s calculated return to the public eye. On October 23, Comey confirmed that a Twitter account previously reported to be his secret personal account did in fact belong to him —tweeting a picture of himself while on a trip to Iowa and teasing that he had to “get back to writing” his book.
    The tweet — and the fact that Comey was in Iowa, one of the most important states for presidential hopefuls looking to gin up early support — prompted speculation that Comey might even be considering running for president in 2020.
    The clearly in-your-face book title is yet another sign that while he might not necessarily be considering a run for president, James Comey is not going away anytime soon.

  18. Jamie, re Moscow Mueller, some tweets reported by fox from

    The Bird DC: The drink’s name, a play on the popular Moscow Mule, is made of tumeric-infused Belle Isle Moonshine, lime, simple syrup and ginger beer, and served over ice.

    Emily: Sounds like justice in a mug

    Brian: I can’t wait for the im-peach-mint juleps. 

  19. can’t wait to hear from franken

    salon:
    Jeff Sessions: I now recall that proposal for a Trump-Putin meeting I said didn’t happen
    Sessions will be remembered for how selective his own memory is, which may deliver him a perjury charge
    All of a sudden, Attorney Jeff Sessions has regained a specific portion of his memory.


    On Thursday afternoon, Ken Dilanian of NBC News reported that Sessions now remembers the March 31, 2016, meeting in which George Papadopoulos, a former foreign policy adviser to President Donald Trump’s campaign, announced that he could set up a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    [….continues…]
     

  20. fancy bear hitlist.

    Secureworks stumbled upon the data after a hacking group known as Fancy Bear accidentally exposed part of its phishing operation to the internet. The list revealed a direct line between the hackers and the leaks that rocked the presidential contest in its final stages, most notably the private emails of Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

  21. Told ya so.  Team Clinton & the DNC were in cahoots.  They had to be, because Hillary didn’t have a message that resonated with voters.  That’s why she had to pretend to agree to Bernie’s ideas.   She couldn’t sell it, though.   The arrogant Clintons cost us the election.  Bernie would’ve won.   Donna isn’t doing herself any favors within the party by spilling the truth, but it’s about selling her book right now.  Besides, there is no party at this point.  The Repugz stink but their bench is deep.

  22. BiD

    Bernie couldn’t win anywhere outside of an all white enclave even if he bribed them.  He wasn’t a Democrat.  The DNC ALLOWED him to run as one, but they didn’t owe him a damn thing.  Hillary had the nomination locked up long before the Convention and then the power mad, money grubbing, limelight seeking Sanders proceeded to destroy her chances and land us with the asshole in the White House.

     

  23. Bernie made the top of my S list a long time ago and Brazile & Warren just joined him as people likely to ruin 2018 for a Democratic takeover.

     

  24. BiD

    Bernie was loved by 40% of 30% of this nation, 12%  that was his base and  a socialist  wasn’t going to find votes to expand his base?  Bernie survived as long as he did because Clinton was very restrained in her attacks. She did it not out of charity but because she was going to win. Bernie never had a chance not because  of any “rigged” election( how do you  rig 50 independent state election/caucuses.? lol really?)  but because he came from the far left of a left of center party. He was a protest candidate for that 40% of the party and nothing more. If you had read Brazile’s piece then you would realize the DNC didn’t have the ability to rig anything, they couldn’t even keep the lights on. They still can’t.

    Jack

  25. The real bomb shell that Brazile dropped in that article, wasn’t about the Clinton arrangement but the fact that Obama had gutted the party and left it an empty shell, At the time Clinton road in to the rescue they were worried about making payroll.

    Jack

  26. This I do know: people I know who vote, who voted traditionally Democrat, are turning away from that Party. Many were supporters of Senator Sanders because he reinvigorated them, piqued their interest, cultivated enthusiasm. The person I shared a ride with told me that he would have voted for Bernie but never Hillary. He is not alone in these sentiments. Seriously – this is not a small number. What I will never understand is why the Democratic Party did not welcome this windfall of voters but dissed & discarded them. I’ve noted this before, I donated to Keith Ellison in his bid to become DNC head. He is the face of a young, vigorous future, at least in a Party with a pulse; instead the usual suspects went with a usual suspect who is nothing more than a before picture in a Charles Atlas ad. Party like it’s 1999. Zzzzzzzzzz.

    blueINdallas knows of what she speaks. She gets the present reality & reads the tea leaves. Glad she is here. We need more diverse voices, opinions.

     

     

     

  27. HRC’s campaign couldn’t figure out if they were running an open seat or an incumbent strategy. Never mind the candidates virtues or flaws, any campaign that can’t figure out a simple thing like its strategy can’t win an election.

    Go in peace, ALL of you.

  28. Democratic takeover in 2018?  In what world? The Dems have to get it together.  Quickly.  They couldn’t punch their way out of a paper bag right now.  It should be easy, considering Repug policies and personalities, but the Dems don’t look strong at the moment.

    Bernie had the message.  Bernie had the momentum.  The Clintons ruined it.  Refusal to own that will not resuscitate the party.  Should it be resuscitated?  Does the DNC have a DNR in file?  Maybe just drain the sesspool.

     

     

     

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