Sunday Serendipity

By Jace, a Trail Mix Contributor

A very nice work for a Sunday morning. (Possibly sublime) A perfect accompaniment to the second cup of coffee and the first newspaper, or just fine all by itself. Enjoy the music and enjoy your Sunday!

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  4. question about meaning of this quote in wapo’s story today “As news of Trump’s taxes breaks, he goes off script at a rally in Pennsylvania”… not only off script, but is he off his rocker?

    “How many people have acid-washed or bleached a tweet?” Trump asked the crowd. “How many? That you deleted? So you deleted it but that’s not good enough. No, this is crazy. Our country is becoming a third-world country.”

    that whole speech (and I use the term loosely) must have been hard to listen to…. bizarro world in pa.

  8. Kate McKinnon is a smart, sharp gift to comedy & Darrell Hammond owns the Bill Clinton franchise.

    I’d Vote for HRC just to have those two front & center every weekend on TV.

     

  9. How many of you have tweeted something so insanely stupid and offensive  that you had to delete it? Except it’s not deleted because millions of losers took screen shots of it…….I ask you– is that fair??

    Is that fair??

  10. ? The wheels on the bus go round & round

    round & round, round & round

    The wheels on the bus go round & round …. ?

    … Then eventually spin uncontrollably, causing the bus

    to end upside down in a ditch, crashing & burning.

    There were no survivors … except for the crazy driver.

    He’s doing well, exploiting the tragedy.

    – Excerpted from The Republican Party Sing-a-Long Book, 2016 edition.

     

  13. Christie Christie, Puddin’ and Pie,Jammed the bridge and made them cry,When the DOJ came out to play,Christie Christie ran away. (For more pudding and pie.)

    The GOP book of Nursery Rhymes is also a nice one.

    Mother Goose ’em

  14. Love the way Jace introduces our day of rest and serenity.  We should probably invite all political types over for coffee by the mist rising off the pool, lake or other favorite body of soothing water.

    Thank you for beautiful.

  15. I’m just now catching up to this …

    Trump Tax Records Obtained by The New York Times Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades:

    The 1995 tax records, never before disclosed, reveal the extraordinary tax benefits that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, derived from the financial wreckage he left behind in the early 1990s through mismanagement of three Atlantic City casinos, his ill-fated foray into the airline business and his ill-timed purchase of the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan.

  17. so this is an example of “great business success”?

    mismanagement of three Atlantic City casinos, his ill-fated foray into the airline business and his ill-timed purchase of the Plaza…

     

     

     

  18. transcript from abc’s this week:

    STEPHANOPOULOS: …. right now we are joined by two of the reporters behind The New York Times story, Suzanne Craig and David Barstow. Welcome to both of you.

    So, Suzanne, tell us how all this began. About 10 ago, you get a letter.

    SUZANNE CRAIG, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Yeah, it was a week ago last Friday. So, roughly 10 days ago. When I went to my mailbox, it was Friday afternoon. I was on a deadline for another story and I swung by my mailbox. I usually do every day. And there was an envelope there from somebody from the Trump organization and I opened it and there were several pages of Donald Trump’s tax returns in it.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: And the return address had Trump Tower.

    Do you have any other evidence that it actually came from Trump Tower.

    CRAIG: That’s what the return address said and then we went sort of and started to unravel who it might have been and who could confirm it.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: And David that is when you went down to Florida and actually found Trump’s accountant from the time?

    DAVID BARSTOW, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Yeah, obviously a big concern for us is, can we validate these documents? And it’s a small circle of people who could potentially do that. One of them was is Jack Mintic (ph) who served as Trump’s primary tax accountant for many decades.

    And so I presented what had been sent to us and asked him to take a look. And he looked at them and said, yes, this looks legit for a variety of reasons.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: And let’s talk about what these show and what they don’t show. You can’t say for sure that he didn’t pay any federal income taxes over the last 18 years, but you do know that it’s a fact that he could write off up to $916 million in income?

    BARSTOW: That is exactly correct. As one of our tax experts told us that if one of his clients came to him with this tax return, what he would say to that client is effectively congratulations, you can earn up to $916 million and not pay a nickel in taxes.

    STEPHANOPOULOS; All legally.

    BARSTOW: All legally under these tax loopholes.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: Yeah, we are hearing from Trump’s lawyer this morning. He’s actually threatening legal action against you guys and the New York Times.

    What are your lawyers saying about that.

    CRAIG: Well, last time I checked, it wasn’t about crime to check your mailbox.

    BARSTOW: They are saying it’s ridiculous.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: so it would be a crime for someone inside one of the tax departments, one of the state tax departments, to leak the documents, but it’s not illegal to publish them.

    BARSTOW: That is what our lawyers are saying.

    CRAIG: That’s what our lawyers are telling us.

  21. We call our house – Seven Sundays – and today is a sublime one — lovely music thanks Jace and wonderful comedy and here it is raining probably not enough to end the fire season but enough to lower the odds quite a bit.  Polls all favor Clinton   and the SF Giants are hot again

    beat LA

    ps Is that picture of Trump in drag or the rest of us with our hair on fire

  22. I still have one cup of coffee remaining after Jace’s fine offering before I’m ready to tackle the morning newspaper. I found this to tide me over. The slightly frenetic beginning movement becomes sublime in the best sense of that word. But what else would you expect of music played and sung by a national group cradled in the mountain chain supporting Mt Ararat–little Armenia.

  23. Thanks all. glad you enjoyed the music.

    RR it is raining here as well, up early candles lit and music playing. What a perfectly relaxing Sunday morning.

    Flatus, your selection was great, loved it! Going to have to up my game.

  24. Question for no one in particular.

    At what point does the Trump campaign become so loathsome and so ridiculous that it forfeits even the most remote claim to legitimacy?

    When will someone of stature stand up and say that this flirtation with lunacy is beyond dangerous and will lead to no good? Who is the someone who can do that and drive a stake through the heart of Trumpism once and for all?

    My apologies, that’s three questions.

  25. Jace

    I think Trump’s campaign reached that level on day one

    There is no one who can do that   if anyone is critical he attacks them and his cult followers -follow

    Too bad Gary Johnson is such a twit he could have come in second. He is closer to Trump onsome policy issues and could have been the “better messenger” an others like trade closer to Republicans. I think he and Weld could have been the voice but Johnson’s a flake ( not Jeff.)

  27.  

     

    are you kidding me Shrub?  What makes you think that.  He would only do it if Michele Obama held his hand

  28. so here’s how they’re spinning the tax cheat, certainly not denying the story …

    “There’s no one who has shown more genius in their way to maneuver around the tax code and rightfully use the laws to do that,” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on Fox News Sunday. “ And he’s already promised in his tax plan to change many of these special interest loopholes and get rid of them, so you don’t have this kind of situation.”

    Trump himself, in a tweet Sunday morning, said “I know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president and am the only one who can fix them.”

  29. Jace, Thanks for all of the Sunday-Sublimes…..I played all of them after getting back home….

     

    XR, I dont know if what i say makes any difference….i just piss people off, but………

     

    With all of this tax information…..now is the perfect time to pounce….and pounce big.  Use this to start a massive movement toward unseating the Rs in the house and senate…..THINK BIG.

     

    Hillary needs to think big and not run scared……that is one of her biggest faults imo…she ran scared when she was up against Edwards….until he imploded….the rest of the way she ran scared of Obama, and why she lost…..if the Ds cant wipe out the Rs by using their chosen candidate….Trump as what they all stand for….then the Ds have a huge problem…and should not be in office….I dont know of a single republican friend or anyone that is voting for him…..i kid them and tell them that they have too cos they just like the Ds are team players….and have to go with him…….or switch to being an independent …….the are choosing the latter…..but will vote for Hillary…..Now is the time to wipe them all out….if it wast the other way around…..The Ds would be at Hillarys grave site……the Rs sure know how to use any little ol thing and make it into a big thing…..this Donald Trump is A blessing, a gift to the Ds……if they don’t get the house and the senate back using this Rump as a tool that he is……..they suck

     

    Once read or heard: “give an democrat a gun in a city full of republicans…the dem would drop the gun and run away…..give an Republican a knife in a city full of democrats and  you would have a city of dead democrats……that is what most think …..i know the difference and prove the the Ds are the ones that have started the most wars….that the rs are the chicken shits…. but if they dont wind back both houses….i due the fact that they also believe they are the weakest of the two…..Now is the time ………..even if its not true…use anything he says to make them all look like they are ruining the country…..keep it simple and attack the weak spot…….the Rump and his followers…..

  30. Yeaah but  his tax deal is based on cheating his vendors et al
    his tax success is based on his business failures and cheating others

     

  31. jace,

    I don’t think anyone with ‘stature’ could tell those who believe in the Republican Nominee anything. It’s because of the stature bigwigs ( & their insider hi & low jinks) that caused many voters to ditch the mainstream GOP usual suspects. What did the GOP do for the little guy? Basically squat – except to exploit them at election time. Even if Donald J Trump is led away in handcuffs tomorrow there is a diehard group who will still vote for him. Just because. The snake swallows his tail here.

  32. Katherine
    I watched their convention; they were determined to choose the flake. In his own way, I see him as functionally incompetent as the Republican candidate. Weld, on the other hand, seems to be a solid individual who could be a decent chief executive.

  33. Flatus

    There is gossip that Weld might bail and endorse Clinton but probably that won’t happen

    I wish BW would talk more about Johnson – he was a two term governor and the editorial boards who met with him thought he was solid but on tv he looks like a flake

     

  34. Here is the point: it does not matter if he paid, or did not pay any taxes…….Use it big time……there is none that should make his kind of money and not pay taxes…or very little…all the while we are paying our share.

     

    Use the anger that this story will cause in the average person……i for one am pissed that he build his empire on the backs of the tax payers……while not paying his vendors, subcontractors….etc etc……. use this…..get the names of each and every one of those that he cheated…..use them in commercial, not getting paid, while he is recieving tax write offs for the work that they did……later

  35. Maybe it’s not one voice but many voices

    Melissa Petersen
    September 28 at 7:17am ·

     

    PSA: From this point forward, any time I see a meme, article, or post claiming or inferring a false equivalence between Tr*mp and Clinton, I’m going to comment. Hard.
    Tr*mp and Clinton aren’t “equally bad.” One is a politician, with whom many people may disagree. The other is a raving demagogue who can’t string together a coherent sentence, and is racist, sexist, bigoted, and dangerously violent to boot.
    He’s been credibly accused of rape THREE TIMES. He admires violent dictators. He repeatedly proposes policies that blatantly violate our constitution. His treatment of women is consistently and deplorably sexist. He encourages violence against people who disagree with him. He’s cheated on 2/3 of his wives. He’s gone bankrupt multiple times, and has cheated and stolen from the small contractors he’s hired to work on his properties. He lies, repeatedly, in the face of facts, even on national television. His most common rating on fact checkers is “false”, followed by “pants on fire.”

    And she’s a career politician, who’s done what career politicians do, and some people disagree with her.
    There is no equivalency here, folks. Even the “jokes” aren’t funny, because they legitimize the irrational hatred of Clinton, and the more irrational acceptance of a candidate who’s been endorsed by the KKK, and regularly shares white supremacist internet memes on his twitter feed.
    You’ve all been warned. Stop it.

  36. Lots of people don’t like (including my-self) that Hillary has received special privileges and have gotten away some things………use the same dislike of special privileges against the Rump and all of this backers……..ok im done….later

  37. sjwny,

    The GOP did squat for the little guy is correct, but this isn’t just about the little guys. This is about everyone. Trump has the temperament and the mentality to fiddle while Rome burns, and then claim that it was only urban renewal. Sadly the press would quote him word for word and never challenge him. In that environment ‘little guys’ are the first to go because they are the most expendable.

    There needs to be a moment of mass repudiation and revulsion. To date the country seems incapable of finding it.

  38. Craig,

    I hope that you’re right. If W could pick the right time and the proper venue it might move the needle.

  39. ” Vote for me, I’m not Trump” seems to be a message that is getting stronger each with passing day, or even each passing hour.

  40. jace,

    Agree whole heartedly with everything you say. But there’s going to be a diehard group that will never respond to reason. This election is their chance to stick it to whomever, whatever. Would love to see GWB speak out along with every other Republican who cares about Democracy. Now is the hour to stand & be counted.

     

  41. Allegedly Shrub is spending his time raising money and campaigning for senate candidates whose fate is connected to Trump

    I guess if the slate was endangered enough he might do it.  The response from Trump would be truly unhinged I can’t see Shrub doing it

  43. If Katherine Graham Cracker’s reported rumor about William Weld is true, I would applaud his actions. Senator Sanders is out on the trail for Secretary Clinton. Come together, as the wise Beatles sang ….

    No offense to our friend blueINdallas, but Jill Stein would never do that. Because what’s in it for Jill trumps what’s best for Democracy. Seriously true.

  44. I did post a while back how obama over looked a very serious mistake while two others were arrested for doing the same thing…and not even a serious as hers….j wont do it now….dont want it used against her….but it real and true….

  46. No, going to shut-up….it was one of the biggest things that turned me off……but im here with her now…and wont help the rump ….but as usual…it was ignored…but take it easy, she was and is not a Saint…..

  47. No one thinks she is a saint but I suspect you are reading Kurt Gowdy talking points –

  48. Trump is entitled to take any deductions the IRS Code allows. But if he is truly a ‘populist’ and a ‘man of the little guy’ he would use his case as an example of just how rigged the system is in favor of the wealthy. He has made no proposal to eliminate these kinds of tax treatments that he has benefitted from. He has only said he would get rid of ‘carried interest.’ Much worse, Trump has proposed eliminating the Estate Tax, which would benefit his estate and his heirs tremendously, doubling down on the benefits he has already received by ‘favorable treatment’ (read: Loophole) that may have shielded almost $1 billion dollars of income from Federal taxes.

    Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump has any concern at all about the ‘little guy’ is delusional.

     

     

  49. No, Kath…..i dont read many people or listen to any news…..unless it npr, pbs, c span etc etc….i read a lot of world wide information that has reported the truth for the last 15 years….I do like to read some of the links that presented here…but they are not about politics…..Jamie gave me a few of them this last time around…Patd….also…but they had noting to do with politics…..I would not even know most news people by name anymore…cept the stupids like C. Matthews and the like……can understand why he and his kind are still around……its b/c people tune in…..we get what we get for some reason……..mostly our fault…so i chose not to even thing about tuning into the main stations…..would rather do some meditation….and find some peace ……Oh, i do like some of the ones that you like…….Democracy now…is a winner…lots of Documentaries….that hardly anyone knows about, world music is the best….and it does a great job over all……

     

     

     

  50. Tax avoidance is an American custom as old as the hills–nothing wrong with it. Tax evasion is a criminal act that should be prosecuted. It appears that whistle-blowers are producing documents that will help Justice build a case if that is the reasonable thing to do. If anyone is aware of specific agents of justice who are not doing their sworn duty when presented with relevant information in re one of the candidates, that should be brought to the attention of the Fourth Estate, if it still exists.

  51. weld rumor just that and nothing more

    realclearpolitics

    Carl Bernstein passed along a rumor a few weeks back that indeed Weld didn’t want to be a spoiler and would soon leave the ticket to endorse and campaign for Clinton in order to stop Trump. Weld and Clinton reportedly met as lawyers decades ago and share mutual friends, which Bernstein said could lead to pressure on him to leave the Libertarian ticket if Trump began to lead in polls. Weld denied the report, calling it “wishful thinking,” and insisted that “under no circumstances will our energies be diverted from our goal of winning the election and serving our country.” Johnson, uncharacteristically animated over the report, called it “bull—-.”

  52. I have been following this campaign as much as Average Joe I suppose, all the daily hot-points, today it’s tax avoidance.  I would not ever vote for any Republican, that’s a given.  Sometimes, the Democrat makes it difficult.  You know how maybe a neighbor borrowed a tool 20 years ago and never returned it…maybe a spouse or “steady” cheated on you?  Maybe someone ratted you out at work, started a false rumor, you get my drift. You may find it difficult to forget all that when that person wants you to forget those transgressions.

    Nobody , nobody at all wants to bring up the fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton was George Bush43’s loudest cheerleader regarding the invasion and long futile wars in Iraq and then Afghanistan.  Also her stance and actions against Muammar Gadaffi were ghastly.  Hillary Clinton was all for the aftermath of Gadaffi’s Libya…Libya is now a classic failed state, Iraq is a disastrous totally failed state.

    So now she’s poised to claim the throne…what will our foreign policy be under this hawk?  Oldtimers here know I have always been on the side of peace and negotiations, and never been for a rush into the fog of war.  Hillary Clinton has a hair-trigger, she’ll throw down and invade via snap judgment and the advice of hawkish generals and crazy people like John McCain, R-AZ.

    She’s corralled the support of the UAW, even though she championed Bill’s NAFTA…how’d she ever do that?  People want to forget the past, that’s how…move on, consider the alternative, they say.
    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ”

    George Santayana (16 December 1863 in Madrid, Spain – 26 September 1952 in Rome, Italy)

  53. spoiler alert… and I do mean spoiler as in the nader-ish kind

    also from above real clear politics link:

    Johnson’s quixotic bid may be the only thing standing between Clinton and the Oval Office. Polls show that a four-way race (which includes Green Party candidate Jill Stein) is one Clinton can easily lose. In two-way polls, she bests Donald Trump — but voters will not get ballots listing only those two names. Should Johnson amass double-digit support, and factoring the support siphoned off by Stein, the two could throw the election to Trump.

  54. I’m disappointed with Jeb and his son–especially the son. He seems to have no ethnic identity with, or compassion for, Hispanics in America who don’t share his luck and connections. Maybe that comes from his Mom who was able to wiggle her way out of that charge of evading paying duty on some stuff from a European shopping spree. Or of how the kids’ drug problems were handled when they were young people. In any case, I don’t see how any involvement in this year’s campaign makes things better for any of that family.

    All that said, Bush ’41 still has my respect for his selfless service.

  55. Asia Times does a great job……..

     

    Dexter, you are 100% correct…….Just too damn bad that we dont have a viable third party to vote for….I just received by mail a form to vote by mail for the first time….since becoming a citizen…..it take it very serious…and will decline doing that……..but if Hillary is very far ahead in Il….i just might fill in the name of John Haglen (he was ignored,but made the two party system sweat profusely, they make sure that no third party can come close again)….from the Natural Law Party, I have never voted for the less of two evils at all, and its killing me to do so now, but anything is better than trump…..

     

     

  56. I understand that Trump or anyone else can legally use the tax code to their advantage. people do it all the time. Same goes for the bankruptcy laws.

    I do remember a time however when HRC was pilloried for making a profit in cattle futures. Don’t remember anyone calling her smart, just crooked.

    I smell a double standard.

  57. Solar,

    I agree the repubs are chicken hawks, but disagree about Dems starting most of the wars.

    I. The Kaiser wasn’t a Dem. The Kaiser’s agents blew up and burned the waterfront and a large part of the city of Hoboken, NJ. Another German agent set a bomb in the lobby of the US Senate and blew it to smithereens. These events took place in 1916. Wilson only asked for a declaration of war after the Secret Service intercepted the Zimmermann telegram, offering Mexico military assistance if they would invade Texas. That was 1917.

    II. Hirohito wasn’t a Dem. Germany declared war on us first. Hitler was’t a Dem.

    3.  The repub congress removed half the funding for the US troops (thereby removing half the troops) in Korea – even after Mao had conquered China. Stalin figured that the US had no stomach for another conflict, so he ‘unleashed’ Kim’s infiltration of South Korea in 1950. Truman wasn’t the wuss that Stalin & Kim had hoped for. Stalin’s error.

    4&5 The bush Gulf Fiascos & War Crimes were started by the repub bush war crime family.

    6. Viet Nam : guilty. Dem’s fault.

    Love that edit button!

  59. XR if you like well written historical novels, I’m half way through book one of Ken Follett’s “The Century Trilogy”

    Book one is “Fall of Giants” and starts just prior to WW I with five families while interwoven represent US, Britain, Russia, France, and Germany.

    It is a great fact loaded but dramatic read of history.

     

  60. I have no patience with third party candidates for President. they’re tilting at windmills screws with good basic governance because people often vote to cut off their noses to spite their faces.  Even Michael Moore this morning was saying this is no year to screw up followed by Glenn Beck who pretty much echoed his thoughts about the left out people and how their anger and pain could lead to bad decisions.

    There are only two ways to create new parties and that is to build from the bottom.  Win local, then county, then state, then federal offices.  You finally end up with a party with enough weight to toss one of the big guys out of the picture.  This is the right wing Conservative method.

    The other is to create a movement that slowly takes over existing leadership positions within a party large enough to cause a split within that party. Enough conservatives got elected to steadily evict moderate Republicans and/or major shifts in policy such as Civil Rights that cause whole parties to flip.

    You can only go from Whig to Republican or Dixiecrat to Republican or Socialist input to modern Democrat by doing the work on the ground.  The Presidency doesn’t get handed to you on a silver platter and the Bull Moose flops and causes destruction.

    You don’t like the candidate at the top of your party, then run for dog catcher and work for twenty years to make a difference.

  61. Jace & Flatus: Thank you for the beautiful music on this gloomy, drizzly day in New England. I almost hate to talk politics after such a pleasant start to my reading here but….

    Craig: The Christie & Trump quotes re his tax fiasco just shows how out of touch with regular people they are. How can anyone believe that he will “fix” a system that has profited him so well. The only way he’ll “fix” it is to make sure that it continues to work for him!

    I agree that we need someone with gravitas to step up and tell the world that DT is insane and dangerous and will bring down our country. I can’t fathom how intelligent people in high places aren’t screaming it from the rafters! Just to clarify: Are we hoping for George H. W. or George W. to be our savior in this? (Why do they have the same name without making W. a junior? Just too confusing.) I hope we’re talking about H.W., since W. is the idiot son who has no gravitas at all. I’d rather have him stashed in a closet while H.W. tells the truth about Trump in some form.

    Right now we’re all pawns in Donald Trump’s loopy chess game! We’re all expendable in his demented world vision where he will be king and the rest of us mere serfs who don’t matter at all. The most expendable of all are his deplorable followers because they can’t even see that they are being used.

    Pat: That quote from Weld shows me that he’s blind if he thinks Johnson has any chance of winning. The only thing they will do is take votes away from Hillary, which means more votes for Trump! I was never a fan of Weld when he was governor, but this tunnel vision is just wrong!

    I’m terrified that all the anti-Hillary people, including some trail members, are conceding the Presidency to Trump by voting for a third option. It seems like some will vote for any third option and do write-ins, so why not just be honest and vote for Trump since that’s what they’re actually doing when they vote for someone who can’t possibly win.

  63. No, You are reading things wrong, and getting out what you want of it all.  You all want talking points against third party voters….as Jamie said there are none….and keeps repeating the two party mantra…..look up the Natural law party (i will never tire of saying this) they had people…even dog catchers in all positions of government in each state….correction in about 44 states…..take a look at their platform….all of it is what dems say they want to give us….but never get around to it….for one reason or another…….

     

    To say that we third party people are not honest enough …..and to just vote for trump is sorta like giving the bull the red flag…..but i wont do that….my country comes first….and your party comes a little later than that…..but just this time aroung….because of how scary Trump really is…..i will be in your bleachers……dont be sore winners…..that just might make  me go to Jhonson……

     

  64. This week some young friends of ours are bringing their east coast parents over for dinner.  The woman in the couple is a Trump supporter she will be the first Trump supporter we have met.  We live in Western Sonoma County which is Bernie Country.

    I don’t think it can be repeated enough — this mess was caused and extended by a gutless Republican party. I hope there is a crushing defeat lessening the margins in the house and taking the senate by more than 4. Her first two years should be a campaign to give her control of the house and senate

  66. Thanks, Jamie ! I like Follett’s writing. My faves so far are Pillars of the Earth and Jackdaws. Jackdaws is one helluva ripping yarn.

  67. Cajun Joe hit on the most important tax issue for Clinton to keep hammering.  Nothing he has proposed would do anything to change his ability to abuse the tax code.  What he has proposed benefits him directly.

  68. Solar, absolutely your country comes first. I trust that you will vote for the people you see as being the least harmful. I think that is what the Founders half-intended – that through elections we would keep the very best for our seed, and send the rest to the market place.

    And in some years, the seed we keep may not seem as good as in prior years.

  69. Ya know Clinton did a very good job of explaining her reasoning at the time she voted for authorization.

    And it weren’t cheerleading.

    And nafta didn’t cause manufacturing to flee the US

    And………

     

    Jack.

  72. Last one for a while.

     

    XR, cpl of things…..thought about you a few times when I was at Maouthee Wisconsin state park having a cpl of beer at a great place that i found…….no ninos but would have bought you a few beers…..

     

    I did leave a link for Tony the Baloney once about the Ds starting a few more wars then the Rs…will see if i booked it and re post….but not counting indain wars……it was about 19 to 13, or 16 forgot……..and what do you know………I saw a book that i read quite a long time ago,  called the book by Alan Watts…and scanned it a little……this is where I found that quote from Jesus that you could not find a few times that i used it…some….the trouble is…my son took the book to read…and can only half way remember it….i dont want to butcher it up…so will call him to get that……me quoting Jaysus……who would of thunk it huh?….but you know if we just did practice what they attribute to him and to what MOses was to have said also ……we would be much better off…….will get my son to read it to me…and post it……now back to lurking….later

  73. Did the deadbeat actually promise to close the loopholes he uses ?

     

    yes he did

  74. another good read about the rise of hitler is Larson’s
    IN THE GARDEN OF BEASTS
    Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler’s Berlin

    ny times review: As Erik Larson, author of …. “In the Garden of Beasts,” by far his best and most enthralling work of novelistic history

  75. Uno mas……XR, I love history as much as you do….and often look for answer in it.  Just when i thought i knew a little bit about our two party system, just when i thought that i knew who were the Ds and who are the Rs….i get shock to remind me that i know Nada…….there is a book coming out soon about the life of Jack Kennedy….turns out Old Man Kennedy asked that Nazi chasing Mcarthy to find a job for him….that is how he got his job?(proving the two partys can work well together)….well he did get him a job…and Jack was loyal to him……..and during this time….he also started to learn about the civil right movemnt….even met Martin L. King….who said that Jack did have a good hear…and would come around…..he was very prphetic as we all know….and jack became a champion of the  civil rights movement……….and was mainly responsible for it……which Lyndon B Johnson took credit for……i dont read very many political books…but will this one……..oh and another thing that blew my mind a little….found out that we had a few presidents before Washington……that was fun finding out how that happened ……..sorry for all of the typing errors….as usual, doing too many things at one time…..later

  76. I knew Bobby K worked for mccarthy. That JFK did also is a shocker.
    joe K having a connection to mccarthy is no surprise. After FDR fired joe K from his post as ambassador the UK, the elder Kennedy spent WWII badmouthing the Prez, Churchill, and the war effort. repubs liked that, until JFK ran for election as a Dem. Then suddenly repugs began to call joe K a bootlegger.

  78. I’m amused about the Trump tax thing, What it implies is that Trump lost so much money in the nineties it took him 10 years to make it up. Remember this was the gogo nineties when wall street was making money by the truckloads. But not Trump even though NYC was flooded with money.

     

    Jack

  79. “jack became a champion of the  civil rights movement……….and was mainly responsible for it……which Lyndon B Johnson took credit for”

    solar, damn well right lyndon should take credit for it… nothing would have been passed if it weren’t for his work and his passion to get it passed. lbj had a much more personal feel for the inequities of others than did jfk in my opinion.  he saw it early on as a teacher in his youth.  please don’t disregard how hard he worked.  as a woman, I owe a lot to him. as someone who needed financial aid for college, I owe a lot to him.  as a liberal in the south politically I owed a lot to him.  flawed as he was, he was one of our great presidents.

  80. [really touching picture here]
    Nine-year-old Zianna Oliphant joins U.S. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton at the pulpit at the Little Rock AME Zion Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, United States October 2, 2016.

     
    cbs news:
    “It makes my heart ache when kids like Zianna are going through this and trying to make sense of the absolutely senseless,” she said. “Because my grandchildren are white, because they are the grandchildren of a former President and Secretary of State, let’s be honest here, they won’t face the kind of fear that we heard from the young children testifying before the City Council.”

    Clinton argued that “every child deserves the same sense of security” and called for complete reform of the criminal justice system and for greater investment in impoverished communities. Without mentioning Donald Trump’s name, she implied that his approach to violence in black communities isn’t enough.

    “There are some out there who see this as a moment to fan the flames of resentment and division, who want to exploit people’s fears, even though it means tearing our nation even further apart,” Clinton said. “They say that all of our problems would be solved simply by more law and order, as if the systemic racism plaguing our country doesn’t exist.”

    Clinton said “of course,” America needs “safe neighborhoods” free of gun violence.

    “But we also need justice and dignity and equality and we can have both,” she said. “This is not an either-or question for America.”

  81. Although I refuse to listen to the floater’s speeches, I do read the recaps (occasionally).  His “speech” was more like he was on acid and viewing the world through acid stained eyes.  Mixing acid with other things is covered in this blog – not to say the floater is on drugs.  I would never say he was on anything unless he was wobbling around in an alternate universe, spouting weird and fantastic thoughts.

    Fell in love last Sunday.  Went back today to pay her rent and sit with her alone for a while talking about her future.  We sort of hit if off at first sight last week, but she did reject me for a while.  A few bites of appetizer got her over to my side. She has a cute nose and the most wonderful eyes.

    I went out and bought a new bed on my way home.  My new girlfriend is moving in next week.  Backed the U-Haul up to the front door so to speak.

    Charlie the Mom delivered her pups and weaned them over the summer.  Leaving her ready to move from her foster mom to my house.  Charlie is a Brittany Spaniel mix.  The bed is hers, I hope the cats don’t move in on her.

  85. Pat,

     

    Yes youre right.  LBJ does deserve his dues……his Vietnam decision sometimes clouds his overall actions as potus for me……..sorry, thanks for putting me straight on it…..

  86. Yeah,  LBJ bestrode this narrow world like a colossus ……..FDR, Truman, LBJ…….the boy had a good heart, he just got in above his raisin’s…….

  88. Oh, yeah.  is the floater trying to “take a dive”?  Committing to doing something for four years probably scares the stuffing out of his hemorrhoids (he is old and old people do have O-ring problems).  Could it be that the orange thing is facing a reality that is more of a fear than that of feeling up his daughter in public (oh wait, he already did that).  More of a fear than releasing his federal income tax returens?

  89. I liked that old sock dolager…..

    Even though I agreed with most of his critics about Vietnam nam.

    It’s a mystery.

  91. Talk about a solid education…..I did two extra years in high school cause it was 67 68 and being out of high school was not healthy at the time……luckily it was a country school, mostly farmers, and no one thought anything much about some kids staying in the fifth grade, like, forever…….mine were 11th and 12th, though, with a judicious changing of schools here and there……well during this extended stay in paradise learning shit, came the morning whe All Students were to report to the auditorium for assembly.

    the usual assembly hi-jinks among your friends……..someone pulls down the movie screen and the projector rolls…….

    black and white film…….LBJ at the big desk with flags and whatnot……….

    Whyyyyyyyy Vietnaaaaam?

     

    and proceeded to answer the question.

    and I kept thinking………..Bullshit.

    but that movie………what a thing it was……..

  92. I had friends who just quit school, upped, and went.     They didn’t like school, anyway…….

  93. Thing is that he was given a choice by his advisor’s…..shut down the war, or extend Nam……for some votes…….how many lives for each vote?

    Sturg, met a lone entertainer at place called mikes…..Jeff Johnson…he was pretty good…lots of old stuff….he sat with me and Judy for a bud….and asked me if i would like to hear anything….The Mustang came to mind…..but he could not sally very good…he tried and apologized which made me like him even more……i like brave sole entertainers…..dont have those loud drums and all to hide them…..he did play some very goo stuff tho…..that brought back a lot of teenage memories…..

  96. Look up Bart Theiler in Tomahawk if you get a chance……..he paints pitchers on saws and stumps and stuff…..

  98. ….did meet an painter that camped right next to me…looked kinda scraggly at first…but that seems to be the norm among campers….i must of been the one outa place……LOL…i gotta get scraggly…..any way…he was a painter….his wife said they made a living at it for a while…but had to hang it up…..showed my a cpl of pics…pretty good….she surprised my also…she was a nurse lobotomist…..something like that………

    Painter are pretty sharp imo……have a childhood friend that was/is very good, and smart…..we used to listen to a lot of Roy Orbinson songs….they see things differently non?

    Think that is was Van Goah that was going blind…or had some seriouse eye sight problems….went to the  dr….the dr. wanted him to get on operation to fix his eyes……Van G said something like…..it took me a long time to see the world like i see it now……so no thanks……..dont know if Van G was left handed….but my friend Mike C and this Camper were both left handed…….

     

  99. I really liked your comment about: dont listen to your mind…….that i so true….we must watch out for it….sometimes our selfish Id (side_) will try and convince us to do the wrong thing….keep a tight reign on it we must….

     

    The man/women who insists on seeing with perfect clearness to decide…..never decides…ok, two beers and one tekillya down…..so am i….laterr

  100. I’d give my right hand to be ambidextrous.

    —Sean Bonniwell, of The Music Machine and their hit:”Talk Talk”……..They had some kind of glove shtick…..

    and the wayfarers a bit.

  102. A Few Notes on the Times Blockbuster
    Josh Marshall

    Others say, “Well, it doesn’t matter. His supporters won’t care.” No, they probably won’t. But that’s not relevant. His supporters make up less than 40% of the electorate. Alone they get Trump a shattering defeat in Goldwater/Mondale territory. Right now Trump needs to hold wavering anti-Trump (but more anti-Hillary) Republicans and make serious gains with loosely-affiliated voters in swing demographics like suburban, married white women, college educated whites of both genders, etc. Saying he’s ‘smart’ not to pay any taxes gives feral Trumpers something to yell about. It has very little traction outside the committed Trump camp.
    An entirely separate point.
    In the course of not denying the gist of the original Times story, Trump’s campaign also threatened legal action against the Times. Is this a legit threat? Big picture: no.

  104. So I went and looked up my favorite capitalist money accumulator(Warren Buffet)

    In the nineties he average an increase of his net worth of 2.5 billion a year from 3.6 billion in 1989 to 36 billion in 2002.

    the nineties were good to people who knew wtf they were doing. Obviously not Donald Trump

     

    Jack

  107. Proposal for new trump corporate slogan :  Better Living Through Bankruptcy !

    It has a certain whiff about it.

  109. I was 14 when LBJ took office, I campaigned for him with Young Democrats, house to house leafleting, I wore an LBJ button and some adults weren’t liking that.  When the internet rolled around and I saw folks used nicknames, I chose Dexter, honoring my all time fave tenor sax man, Dexter Gordon.  When some sites already had a Dexter, I became Dexter Johnson.  That’s for LBJ.  My perspective, as a V.Vet, is that the US involvement was flawed and ill-advised, and LBJ gets no pass, but the guy knew Washington and he knew how to get things done.  He gave favors and when needed he called those favors back in, you can believe he did.  The Great Society was a success, and LBJ is honored for that. John Lewis (D-GA) always gives LBJ credit for the way he presided over turbulent racial times.

    After all these years I still can’t grasp the pressure Johnson and later Nixon were under when it came to Vietnam.  Especially from the Gulf of Tonkin lie to the 1972 Bach Mai Children’s Hospital bombing in 1972, that war was FUBAR.

    When Bush41 began attacking Iraq in Desert Storm, I was working and I became ill…I had a feeling this war was going to change everything…then when Bush41 ordered troops to stop and retreat and not charge Saddam’s HQ, I thought maybe this wouldn’t be so bad.  And then , 9-11, another Bush, a massive attack on Iraq, a long land war, an expansion of activities into Afghanistan, tick-tock…never stopped, not yet.  Obama promised, 30 days post-election, close Gitmo.   He never had a chance to get that done, he never should have promised that.

    When Obama beat out HRC in 2008 to take the ticket, then beat McCain/Palin, Craig told us not to expect much, unless we really loved the status quo.

    I’ll pick it up from there…a Clinton presidency , more and more, status quo.  I don’t have any hot-button issues anymore.  Even my beloved recent VA benefits…I was a vet 44 years before I was told I had benefits coming…I had indeed checked several times over the years, not eligible.  I got by without the VA then and I would again, I suppose.

    The best thing is seeing a woman about to become POTUS.  Way down the road, I truly hope a Latino/Latina can be President before I run out of time.

    Studs Terkel dearly wanted to see Obama win in 2008…he died on Halloween night.  That was a shame.  A Latino or Latina in the White House now seems possible.  Time to think ahead…it’s already a post-Obama world…Trump ain’t got a chance in hell.

  110. Dexter, if there is a hell, the deadbeat is headed toward it like a kamikaze on steroids and meth.

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