Experimenting with the Extremes

Attribution: The American Experiment by Christopher Weyant, The Boston Globe, MA

USA Lab class 101: base mixed with acid can either neutralize each other or worse.

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Blue Bronc
6 months ago

Joe does not need two hands to drink a glass of water.
 
The media smells blood and will do anything to spread it on this country.  Including their own demise as the facists take over and control the media.  I am with Biden and Harris.

Pogo
6 months ago

BB, and he’s never talked about the Continental Army capturing the airports and “at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory” in the War of Independence. 🙄 Yes the pugs are having a good time. Rep. Dingell is right. Get back to talking about Dumbass.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Bloomberg’s post-debate swing state polls show Republicans might have the wrong nominee. Trump hasn’t leveraged Biden’s meltdown into a statistically significant lead.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Biden sends a letter to congressional Democrats with this message:

“I am firmly committed to staying in this race, to running this race to the end, and to beating Donald Trump. … The voters — and the voters alone — decide the nominee of the Democratic Party. How can we stand for democracy in our nation if we ignore our own party.”

Sturgeone
6 months ago

in re Bloomberg
Wow…..even with democrats doing most of the heavy lifting?

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Biden Letter to Congress, Page 1

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Biden Letter to Congress, Page 2

Sturgeone
6 months ago

A Smith person 
It’s no surprise that PoC and women are leading the grassroots movement to defend Joe’s candidacy for reelection. Marginalized groups who’ve had to fight for their rights for generations. People who understand in their bones that you don’t always have the luxury of picking the perfect time or the perfect person when you’re fighting for your very existence. You fight with what you have. You stand together till the end. It’s not an intellectual exercise or a clever political calculation. Fighters recognize fighters

craigcrawford
6 months ago

One thing for sure, no one can take nomination away from him against his will. I guess we’ll have to pass the XANAX for the second debate.

Sturgeone
6 months ago

JonFlan
“People are talking about ‘Biden is too old’ — hell, I’m older …,” Rep. Waters, 85, said, “& I get up every morning. & I exercise. & I work late hours. I take care of Black people. Trump has told you who he is, … a no good, deplorable, lying, despicable human being.”

Fight the right people

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Philadelphia radio station WURD has parted ways with a host who interviewed President Biden on Wednesday using questions provided to her by the Biden campaign. WURD said in a statement Sunday that “agreeing to a predetermined set of questions jeopardizes’’ its listeners’ trust. The host, Andrea Lawful-Sanders, resigned in a mutual agreement, according to WURD.

Sturgeone
6 months ago

Attacking Biden while not having a clue about what happens if he actually does drop out just ain’t too bright. 
But attacking debates which have not even happened yet?   That’s just kinda weird, my friend.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

I’m not attacking, just afraid of a second Biden debate so much closer to the election.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Biden just called in to Morning Joe: “I’m not going anywhere”

craigcrawford
6 months ago

I wonder if Biden would get a boost by opening the convention and running himself, challenge others to run against him.

Sturgeone
6 months ago

What I don’t get is why can’t you (or anyone else attacking Joe) see what is going to happen once you pitchfork Joe outa there.  Why are you totally ignoring the  chaos which is the inevitable result?
if you want to attack something which hasn’t happened yet (and it was an attack) you  might try that on for size.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Biden on Morning Joe: “He’s just a liar! And he hasn’t done a damned thing since the debate. He’s been riding around the golf cart for 10 days, down in Mar-a-Lago.”

“I am not going anywhere. I wouldn’t be running if I didn’t absolutely believe that i am the best candidate to beat Donald Trump in 2024.”

To Democrats saying he should quit: “Run against me. Challenge me at the convention.”

IvyGreen
6 months ago

the 3 of us plus sturge, BiD and maybe a few more appear to still be members of the biden/harris happy band of warriors here

 
Pat, I haven’t quit the band. Joe is family, you don’t give up on family, you just want what’s best for them and the family as a whole. 

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Sturg, I don’t think it’s fair to say worries Biden can’t beat Trump is “attacking” him. Real Biden-leaning voters out there are really concerned whether he can handle this. Attacking them for disloyalty doesn’t ease their concerns. Address their concerns and how Trump will make their lives worse. That’s all!

Sturgeone
6 months ago

Joe is not dropping out, so why not see how much damage can be inflicted between now and,say, September. 

Good plan.   
Republicans are cheering.
Putin is cheering.

Why do you ignore what happens if he drops out?

craigcrawford
6 months ago

More Biden on Morning Joe: “I don’t care what those big names think! They were WRONG in 2020! They were wrong in 2022 about the red wave! They’re wrong in 2024! And go with– to come out with the watch and watch people react. You make a judgment! You make a judgment! And by the way I’m going to be have all these foreign leaders here. I’ve been in contact with a new British prime minister, which is– anyway. Look the country the rest of the world. Look at our allies looking for U.S. leadership. Who else do you think can step in here and do this? I expanded NATO, I solidified NATO, ask your brother [to Mika] about it in Poland. I made sure that we’re in a position where we have a coalition of people, of the nations around the world to deal with China, with Russia, when… Read more »

IvyGreen
6 months ago

As the United States hovers at the edge of fascism, the history of Germany can help.
 

https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-to-stop-fascism

RebelliousRenee
6 months ago

I’m with Biden/Harris…
ya know who’s smiling at all of this crap….   Putin…

craigcrawford
6 months ago

The voters have been voicing these concerns for months now. Denying them, dismissing them or calling them disloyal is not the way to overcome their concerns.

Replace Biden as nominee:

64% all voters
55% Black voters
66% Hispanic voters
48% Biden (!) voters

Biden is too old to be an effective president:

69% all voters
62% Black voters
68% Hispanic voters
55% Biden voters

This is from the NYT PRE-debate poll, Trump 48-Biden 42, which was taken:

– After weeks of wall-to-wall coverage of Trump’s criminal conviction

– Months after Biden campaigned intensely and spend tens of millions on swing state ads

– At a time when 80% of voters said they were paying attention to the race

Almost every other pre-debate poll found similar results.

This is not an elite thing. This is not a media thing. This is not a one-bad-debate-freakout thing. It’s a voter thing.

RebelliousRenee
6 months ago

today’s meme…
 
 

Sturgeone
6 months ago

Having to take Xanax for the debate.  Sorry, That’s an attack.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Larry Sabato
@LarrySabato
Like it or not, that’s the end of that. Biden-Harris it is for Dems. Legally, Biden has the high ground–he has to agree to step aside and he is clearly not going to do so. Today’s question: Will Dem officeholders, donors, rank-and-file reunify quickly, or will they do what they did, more or less, in 1968, 1980, 2000, and 2016 (among other years)? (Hint: Dems lost in all 4 of those years.)

craigcrawford
6 months ago

But RR, Ruth staying put until Trump in office is what got Roe reversed

IvyGreen
6 months ago

Been pondering lately what-if the GG (greatest generation who fought WWII) had not gone “silent” about their experiences, and had told us kids more about what they fought for and what they fought against (fascism), and if our politics had not gone off exclusively on a tangent about the bugaboo of communism (i.e., leftism, socialism, progressivism), then maybe-just-maybe we’d have a better-informed generation about what kind of deep hole they’re about to vote us all into if they vote for Trump and his band of bandits. 

IvyGreen
6 months ago

Certain voters doubts have been around how qualified and suited the VP is to step into the shoes. Either way it goes, those doubts must be allayed. 

Sturgeone
6 months ago

Ruth was also sucker punched by the Jill Steins, Bernie Bros, Comey, But her emails, and dire warnings of un-electable 
Maybe Ruth just believed in all those polls. Not too smart as it turned out but people do love those polls.

craigcrawford
6 months ago

But the polls were correct that Dems would get what Obama called “a shellacking” in his midterm, which is why he lunched with Ruth before that happened and gently suggested she let him replace her. Some say he was too gentle, because obviously it didn’t work.

Sturgeone
6 months ago

I see that Ruth should have skipped town but don’t see that being relevant to Joe. 

craigcrawford
6 months ago

It’s why Bill Maher calls him “Ruth Bader Biden”

Sturgeone
6 months ago

Bill Mahar will vote for Joe, and so will everyone who watches Bill Mahar.

IvyGreen
6 months ago

Every organization and entity must have a solid succession plan. 

IvyGreen
6 months ago

Bill had said he would vote for Joe if his head was in a jar of blue liquid. 

craigcrawford
6 months ago

Yep Sturg, he said so. But he doesn’t think Joe wins.

Sturgeone
6 months ago

I think he’s totally wrong. 
And I’ve heard, by the way, from a trusted source that he’s a nitwit.

And I haven’t heard his post-Biden plan.  You know why?   Because he, like everyone else hollering “step down”  doesn’t have one.

blueINdallas
6 months ago

Ahem!  
Biden/Harris is running against tRUMPsky/Project 2025.

If an adequate amount of coverage was being given to the dangers of the other side from the get go, and if ambitious Dems like Mark Warner had not been determined to get themselves on a ticket by undermining  Biden, those poll numbers about Biden getting out would look a lot different, Craig.
The wound was self-inflected and the media continues to rub salt into it.

Donald J. Trump is a traitor, a liar, a grifter, an adjudicated rapist, an adulterer, a convicted felon, a sociopath, a megalomaniac, and a loser to Biden/Harris in 2020.  

Everyone propping him up, from family to congressional critters to billionaires to the MAGAt base to Putin to many members of the media are also guilty of being traitors to this country.

Bink
6 months ago

Joe’s as power hungry as everybody else that has it
 
somebody get a crowbar

Every election is this country is now a statistical dead heat regardless of candidates because that’s how polarized we are. You’re attacking Craig for no reason because it doesn’t matter what he says, every election is gonna be a almost a dead split

And btw, the things that senior Democrats, like Adam Schiff this past weekend, have said on broadcast television are way more damaging than anything Mr. C can say

blueINdallas
6 months ago

Biden/Harris 2024 v tRUMPsky/Project 2025
Let’s see how that poll plays out.

Instead of playing stupid games, Dems should be pointing out that Project 2025 needs to be stopped in races down ballot, as well.   No so-called Republican can ever win a seat, again, because the fascist infection has to be stopped at every point in the body politic. 
 

IvyGreen
6 months ago

If Joe goes off the ticket, the whole party goes down based on the ensuing chaos alone. He must stay in the saddle with Kamala right behind him ready and able to grab the reins. 

Bink
6 months ago

What’s “the Chaos”, by the way?  Joe releases his delegates, as Craig said,  Kamala gets the nomination, and they pick anyone from an impressive field of really strong VP candidates, that doesn’t seem like too chaotic a process to me
 
Don’t worry, weak-kneed Dems would never have the gumption

RebelliousRenee
6 months ago

yup…