A rosebud by any other name?
Trump loses immunity bid as appeals court rules he’s just a “citizen” (msn.com)
“We cannot accept that the office of the Presidency places its former occupants above the law for all time thereafter,” the judges wrote.
“For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution,” the opinion said.
A three-judge panel smacked down the former president’s claim of absolute immunity from prosecution, the current president might be talking to ghosts, and conspiracy theorists believe the CIA is rigging the Super Bowl to help Taylor Swift get President Biden reelected.
CNN’s Anderson Cooper sits down with former presidential candidate Chris Christie to discuss the federal appeals court ruling that Donald Trump is not immune from prosecution for alleged crimes he committed during his presidency, flatly rejecting Trump’s arguments that he shouldn’t have to go on trial on federal election subversion charges.
it was a cockamamie argument. I didn’t listen to the entire DC circuit argument, but there had to be two questions asked. The first would’ve been:
– Direct me to the provision in the constitution that grants a president immunity for criminal acts committed while in office.
And when the inevitable “I can’t, there is no such provision” comes, the next question would be:
– All right, then cite me any caselaw that has recognized immunity for a president for crimes committed while he’s in office.
The silence would be deafening.
Mike Johnson showed yesterday that his Whip can’t count.
So many jewels in yesterday’s Appeals Court opinion. Among my favorites:
editorial board Opinion | The Trump Jan. 6 immunity case should end here – The Washington Post
Trump’s frightening advocacy in this case for unlimited presidential authority ought to be a campaign issue.
Do we really want to elect someone who believes he can assassinate political rivals without consequence?
I can imagine the clerks and paralegals having fun typing this up. Westlaw grinding through trying to find anything that the sfb legal team might have found so it could be smashed down, and not finding anything that might have supported sfb because it does not exist. With that out of the way it is time to write so the court formerly known as supreme would not touch this. Yeah, payback time for all the bad mouthing the orange moran does.
Trump’s response to the ruling:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
A President of the United States must have Full Immunity in order to properly function and do what has to be done for the good of our Country. A Nation-destroying ruling like this cannot be allowed to stand. If not overturned, as it should be, this decision would terribly injure not only the Presidency, but the Life, Breath, and Success of our Country. A President will be afraid to act for fear of the opposite Party’s Vicious Retribution after leaving Office. I know from personal experience because I am going through it right now. It will become a Political Weapon used for Election Interference. Even our Elections will be corrupted and under siege. So bad, and so dangerous for our Nation. SAVE PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY!
Feb 06, 2024, 12:25 pm
The court blew away that argument in one sentence:
“Past Presidents have understood themselves to be subject to impeachment and criminal liability, at least under certain circumstances, so the possibility of chilling executive action is already in effect.”
craig, what’s really frightening is not just the “advocacy in this case for unlimited presidential authority” but the dog whistle he’s blowing to release his vicious pack panting for violence against his current opponents and perceived betrayers of their dear leader right now.
Late Night Cheers Donald Trump’s Rejected Absolute Immunity Claim – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
please deport all Magats, Biden, you have Citizen dummy’s endorsement
i’m trying to think laws that Biden could break to support a progressive policy agenda, but we respect the law, it’s all that differentiates us from animals
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2024/02/01/what-biden-really-says-about-trump-behind-closed-doors-00139178
lol yup
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-hold-vote-impeach-dhs-secretary-alejandro-mayorkas-rcna137327
My magga peeps are fully bought into the fantasy idea that Plumpty is being railroaded with these indictments. The refrain is what they are doing to him – not the facts that he’s done it all to himself by criming his way to the top.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-immunity-claim-rejected-dc-circuit-rcna137474?cid=eml_mda_20240207&user_email=22244e5be4e4877c4ff2829a16e3645c0f384a4e5032fbfb2339839995af4244
He’s immune to cognition. Allergic to reason. Proud of his ignorance. Like a cockroach, only adept at slipping thru the cracks.
Ivy, not that reason works with these folks but one argument I try to make is that four grand juries and two trial juries of regular everyday Americans have done this, unanimously. Are they all part of a Deep State out to get Trump?
That’s well over 100 citizens who have found him accountable. Trumpians try to keep the focus on prosecutors and judges but never mention all the jurors who aren’t buying his crap.
From a good review of the circuit court’s decision yesterday by George Conway. He seems to think it is an airtight decision and won’t be reviewed by the Supreme Court. It may be behind a paywall but it is a good read if you can get to it.
The Colorado case headed for oral arguments at the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday is titled Trump v. Anderson. It’ll decide whether former President Trump can remain on the 2024 ballot.
If you know Norma Anderson, it’s no surprise to see her name leading the charge, even if it’s unpopular within her own party, John writes.
The 91-year-old from Lakewood was a force in Colorado politics through 2006, and as she likes to say, she doesn’t scare easily.
Details: Anderson served for two decades in the state Legislature and became the first woman to serve as majority leader in the House in 1997 and Senate in 2003.
She’s a traditional conservative who’s moderate on social issues and willing to work across the aisle, a dying breed in her own party.
What they’re saying: “She didn’t waver. And I think that’s one of the reasons why she was so popular at the time with Republicans, because she was strong,” former Colorado GOP chairman Dick Wadhams told the Washington Post. “Nobody pushed Norma around.”
The intrigue: Fed up with the GOP, she quit in 2018 but rejoined in 2021.
“I thought, you know, I’m the Republican. They aren’t,” she told the Post. She voted for third-party candidates instead of Trump in 2016 and 2020.
What to watch: Anderson plans to listen closely to the Supreme Court arguments this week with her copy of the U.S. Constitution at the ready.
“If that isn’t insurrection, I don’t know what is,” Anderson told the Colorado Sun about the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/06/norma-anderson-trump-colorado-ballot-case?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslocal_denver&stream=top
https://coloradosun.com/2024/02/04/trump-supreme-court-ballot-opinion-carman/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslocal_denver&stream=top
If SCOTUS were to hear and decide in Orange Adolf’s favor, then the current POTUS would be immune from throwing the aforementioned orange-skinned monster in the clink and overturning the election if it were (shudder) to reinstall him as the dictator he’s promised to be.
Have you heard interviews with MAGAts? They think dictatorship is what ‘merica needs. Their stupidity is frightening.
At what point do we decide that Trump is not eligible to be president?
I’ve been thinking about this. It seems crazy that one state, Colorado, could keep Trump off the ballot and another state, California, would allow him to be on the ballot. But that seems to be the way we run elections as each state is free to determine how each state will choose its federal electors, who then vote to choose the president, per the Electoral College. It is a crazy system but it is the one we’ve got. There are a few limits to the state’s authority but not many. So from what I can see each state is free to elect an ineligible candidate, if they so choose. If enough of them do so and that candidate wins the election with the Electoral College vote, then is when the Supreme Court can determine if he can take office. If not then under current law his VP would become President.
It is a crazy system.
but it’s ours, God bless America.
Jack
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/media/tucker-carlson-russia-putin-interview-reliable-sources/index.html
товарищ Тукр is in Mother Russia for a propaganda campaign with his Zaddy Vlad. Stay there, you commie.
“…Carlson predictably and dishonestly villainized the press. The right-wing extremist, who has lauded autocrats in recent years, claimed English-speaking outlets are “corrupt” and “lie” to their audiences as they disseminate “propaganda of the ugliest kind.”
“Meanwhile, as Carlson implied that US news organizations are not interested in telling the Russian story, The Wall Street Journal’s Evan Gershkovich sits in a prison for doing precisely that.”
“Putin not only has declined to participate in interviews with the free press, but over the past two years he has waged a war against the media, locking up journalists, fining Big Tech companies for hosting “fake” information about the Ukraine invasion, and pushing through censorship laws that clamp down on news organizations.”
https://delawareliberal.net/2024/02/07/song-of-the-day-2-7-randy-newman-putin/
F him and the whores he rode in on.
yeah… what Sturg said above…
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/07/business/pbb-bad-loans-real-estate-crisis/index.html
“…a German lender focused on real estate, has set aside more money for bad debts as it braces for what it says is the worst decline in commercial property values in 15 years.”
“The global financial crisis peaked in 2008 as banks collapsed under the weight of huge losses on mortgages and related securities following the bursting of a bubble in the US housing market.”
“US Treasury secretary Janet Yellen told lawmakers Tuesday that she had concerns about the exposure of some banks to commercial real estate.”
Hmmm, convert commercial real estate into living spaces for humans to do more in than just work? Of course, it wouldn’t be affordable housing.
“Banks as far apart as New York, Tokyo and Zurich have reported mounting losses on lending to the troubled commercial property sector in recent days. The renewed turmoil comes almost a year on from a banking crisis that led to the collapse of three US regional lenders and the emergency rescue of Credit Suisse.”
“On Wednesday, New York Community Bancorp attempted to reassure investors that it has enough cash to stay afloat after the stock shed about 60% of its value over the past eight days and ratings agency Moody’s downgraded the bank’s credit grade to junk.”
“Last week, the troubled US regional lender reported a surprise $252 million loss for the fourth quarter, a big chunk of which was tied to loans for office buildings. It also set aside $552 million in the quarter to absorb potential losses on loans, up sharply from $62 million in the previous quarter.”
This is the top of the iceberg. Too big to fail or too small to bail?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html
“Office and retail property valuations have been falling since the pandemic changed where people live and work and how they shop.”
“The Fed’s efforts to fight inflation by raising interest rates have also hurt the credit-dependent industry.” <—
“That’s bad news for regional banks.
US banks hold about $2.7 trillion in commercial real estate loans.”
“The majority of that, about 80%, according to Goldman Sachs economists, is held by smaller, regional banks — the ones that the US government hasn’t classified as “too big to fail.”
“Some companies are even selling off their once-valuable properties for bargain bin prices. The Canadian Public Pension Investment Board recently sold a 29% stake of an office block in midtown Manhattan to Boston Properties for just $1. The pension fund had invested $71 million in the building.”
“As losses from a [commercial real estate] loan portfolio accumulate, they can spill over into the broader financial system,” they wrote. “Sales of financially distressed properties can reduce market values of nearby properties, lead to a broader downward CRE valuation spiral, and even reduce municipalities’ property tax revenues.”
This comment following the WaPo piece on the failed impeachment is too good not to post. From a reader who goes by kgalew:
Nail, meet hammer.
Remind me, why is Tuckums not at Faux anymore? Was it because they paid a huge judgment because he is too fucking dishonest on the air even for them.
won’t coloradans still have the opportunity in the primary to write in the loser guy’s name? not having their man on the ballot didn’t stop new hampshire’s voters who wrote in joe giving him a whopping 55%.
so what’s the big deal? they still can vote. it just won’t be as easy as flipping a lever or filling in a bubble. this is assuming of course that magats are able to read & write .
Ftucker got above his raisins.
Pat, our CO ballots have been printed already and will hit our mailboxes next week. I thought the same thing but since learned that in Colorado, write-in names must be registered write-ins or else they are discounted. In any case, his name will be on there for my magga peeps to have at it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-republican-party-appeal-u-s-supreme-court-trump-ballot-ban/
WOW!!! Sen. Lankford just said on the Senate floor:
Video: https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1755297920847429720?s=19
Craig, I like this suggestion and will incorporate into my talking points with them. My personal past experiences on jury duty and on trials, plus a term on a grand jury in Jefferson County Alabama, are testimonies I frequently cite. Not that any of it carries weight with them. They think jury duty is something, like taxes, to be shirked. If you can’t figure a way to get out of jury duty you must not be very smart.
We want to know who is the “popular commentator.” Time for Senator Lankford to name the names!
It had to be Hannity.
Yeah, since Hannity was tRUMPsky’s handler, calling him to say nite-nite while he was in the WH and whisper crazy nothings in his ear, I agree that Sean is the one in charge at Fox Noise. Hmmm. If not him, or not just him, I wonder if KO can suss out any others?
There’s popular and then there’s MAGAt popular, though. Perhaps, notorious would be a better descriptor.
https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-biggest-airline-buying-houses-rent-cabin-crew-2024-2
“Europe’s biggest airline is buying up houses near its Dublin headquarters to rent out to new cabin crew, Ryanair said in a statement shared with Business Insider.”
”The budget airline faced criticism from politicians after it purchased 25 out of the 28 homes in one new housing development in Swords, just two miles away from Dublin Airport.”
“The move came as the capital faces a severe housing crisis that has left many unable to afford homes.
Ryanair said: “In recent years the absence of affordable rental accommodation has been a major impediment to recruiting and training new Irish and European cabin crew members to Ryanair’s inflight team.”
“This accommodation, which is located one bus stop from Dublin Airport, will be rented at affordable rates to Ryanair cabin crew during their first year of employment,” …
Any regular consumer of right-wing disinformation should know to whom Lankford is referring.
i know a few such people, but i ain’t asking 😶
i’d guess Laurel Ingeraheham but is she popular? 🤔
My magga peeps have said point blank that Hannity is their only trusted source of information.
(I want to be clear I love my magga peeps unconditionally.)
stop making sense
Oh and Fallon stole your joke, he had to dumb it down for his audience, though 🥂
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/biden-border-bill/index.html
“Biden on Tuesday promised to blame Republicans in Congress directly for the apparent failure of the deal, saying the country will hear about how those Republicans caved to Trump’s attempts to scuttle the bill after months of intense bipartisan negotiations. Senate Republicans tanked the bill in a key vote Wednesday, 49-50.”
Most Republicans still don’t seem to understand that everything that tRUMPsky touches, dies.
Can’t wait for the SOTU!
Do we have Super Bowl ad info? I probably won’t see it; I don’t get CBS with the antenna and it’s supposed to storm, so I probably won’t go to the Super Bowl party.
Feeling badly for Ronna McDaniel. She did everything for Plumpty, changed her name, had a total makeover, all to please him. He dumped her anyway.
it’s gotta be that frozen food putin praiser with the vulgar name, sounds like something he’d say
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/super-bowl-commericals-avoid-controversy-1235897684/
Answering my own question:
“At least two advocacy organizations will appear in Sunday’s Super Bowl to discuss sensitive issues. He Gets Us, a religious organization that aims to spark new connections with Christianity, will run two ads.” Nope! They are anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ, etc. The Hobby Lobby dude supports them. It’s a Christo-fascist front.
“And The Foundation to Combat Antisemitism, an advocacy group backed by New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, will run a 30-second spot that urges people to stand up against prejudice and hate toward Jews.”
”But no political campaigns have purchased national ad time, according to two people familiar with the situation.”
So, I guess no LP.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/servant-foundation-he-gets-us-jesus-gen-z-alliance-defending-freedom/
More on Servant/He Gets Us:
“Non-profit trying to rebrand Jesus for Gen Z is main funder for US hate group”
“The Servant Foundation has plunged millions of dollars into its ‘He Gets Us’ ads, which paint Jesus as an “influencer” who was “cancelled” for standing up for his beliefs.”
“But analysis of financial accounts by openDemocracy shows over the last five years the Servant Foundation has also grown to become the main identifiable source of funding for Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), described as an anti-LGBTIQ hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre…”
“Among other beneficiaries of money channelled through Servant are at least seven US organisations well-known for their attacks against equal rights: ADF, the Fellowship Foundation, Focus on the Family, American Centre for Law and Justice, Family Research Council, Heartbeat International, and the Heritage Foundation.”
Heritage Foundation?
https://michiganadvance.com/2024/01/16/project-2025-if-allowed-will-cement-america-as-a-rightwing-authoritarian-state/
Connect the dots, la,la,la,la. Heritage Foundation?
“Project 2025 is a sweeping rightwing blueprint for the next Republican president, Trump or not, to run the country for the foreseeable future. Funded by The Heritage Foundation, Koch Brothers and a vast and secretive dark money network, the project has recruited at least 80 far-right organizations and entities to the cause.”
“Project 2025 offers proposals to deregulate targeted industries, privatize government functions and help American corporations to make more money at the expense of American workers, the middle class and everyone except the oligarchs and the 1%.”
“Those in charge in the incoming administration are prepared to purge those deemed disloyal after identifying and interviewing “every Treasury Department official who participated in its DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) activities and programs, and make such activity ‘“per se grounds for termination of employment.”’
This has not gotten enough attention. All Dems should run against every effing Republican on this, because it runs deep.
“Trump has vowed on Day 1 to invoke the Insurrection Act to deploy the military to violently crush any protest or dissent. He plans to purge the Justice Department of anyone deemed disloyal and deploy across four federal agencies a 50,000-strong bloc of loyalists to defense, legal, judicial and regulatory slots.”
It won’t matter if it’s tRUMPsky or another Republican (or a Republican-friendly asshat like RFK Jr.); it’s in place.
“Meyerson, editor-at-large at The American Prospect, said far-right conservatives and The Heritage Foundation have an extensive enemies’ list that includes “welfare recipients, lazy and liberal civil servants, anti-business regulators, environmentalists, and union bosses, “scientists, woke bureaucrats, woke educators, woke diplomats, woke generals and admirals, woke G-men, and anyone who doesn’t indulge the next Republican president’s every whim (an adaptation to the likelihood of a Trump nomination),” in the commentary titled, “The Far Right Has a Plan to Remake America. They Even Wrote It Down.”
Just makes your head spin. After voting to tank the border security bill, Tim Scott says he voted against a stand-alone bill for Israel/Ukraine aid because: “We should first secure our southern border”
Tim Scott … unfamiliar with deep thoughts. Wouldn’t know a contradiction if it hit him in the face. What I’M SURE he meant to say is, “We should first fail to secure our southern border before we fail to send funds to Israel and Ukraine, and that’s exactly what we did.”
I recall when Tucker was the original person who started what became the 11th Hour gig on emessemessen. He sucked but Willie Geist was his wingman. Willie turned out okay.
Uh oh. Trouble in River City.
https://www.al.com/news/2024/02/alabama-house-republicans-to-unveil-proposed-gambling-legislation.html?e=87003e1eb754f9d40574ce526134d300&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter_breaking&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news
Long history of opposition to “gambling” in Alabama. All the while citizens travel to nearby states to buy lottery tickets.
https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story/news/2010/01/29/state-troopers-attempt-raids-on-gambling-operations/27938583007/
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/07/opinions/trump-maga-border-bill-ukraine-putin-ghitis/index.html
“Opinion: MAGA’s gift to Putin”
“The former president and his MAGA loyalists are wrapping up an invaluable gift for the Russian leader just in time for the second anniversary of Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”
“With every passing day it looks like they’re going to force the United States to break its word and all but abandon Ukraine – along with other war-torn regions and Indo-Pacific defense.”
“For Trump, the worse things are in the United States, the better his chances of capitalizing on discontent and portraying Biden’s administration as a failure. That’s why he said he hopes a recession, an economic “crash,” happens before the end of the year.”
“Barring a miracle, the legislation is doomed and with it, very likely, the prospects for substantial US aid for Ukraine.”
“Imagine the joy in Moscow!”
MAGAt Republicans are filthy, commie sympathizers.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/05/news/bill-would-block-biden-from-delivering-state-of-the-union-address/
“President Biden would be barred from delivering the State of the Union address to Congress until he sends along a budget request and national security strategy, under legislation introduced Monday by Sen. Joni Ernst” [pig castrater from Iowa]
“The Send Us Budget Materials & International Tactics In Time (SUBMIT IT) Act would block House and Senate leadership from inviting the president to give the annual address until lawmakers receive those materials.”
Guess, what! POTUS Joe can just go on EVERY broadcast TV channel and speak DIRECTLY to the American people, anyway.
No pesky MAGAts booing and lying. EFF THEM ALL TO HELL!
After I die, I am gonna haunt some folks so hard. May not wait that long, though. Astral travel is a thing, right?
My favorite section of the president Constitutional duties. Nothing about yearly standing in the well. Also, he can convene or adjourn the congress. I think that would be rather funny if he told them to go home for a week or two.:
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/07/1226975641/venezuela-election-maduro-evangelical-vote
“A program, called “My Well-Equipped Church,” is refurbishing thousands of evangelical churches across the country. The Maduro government is also providing small cash stipends to 13,000 pastors and has pledged to build an evangelical university.”
“The donations are part of an aggressive campaign by Nicolás Maduro, Venezuela’s authoritarian leader, to secure the support of evangelical Christians ahead of a crucial presidential election later this year in which he will seek another six-year term.”
“The regime has allowed evangelical political parties, like El Cambio (“Change”), to operate even as it cracks down on opposition parties. In January 2023, Maduro held a televised summit with evangelical pastors, at which he declared: “I am also a pastor; the grand pastor of Venezuela.”
Jesus H
Clever word-play today, Pat. Thank you so much!
ivy, thanks. many mornings circumstances just write themselves.
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