“Oi!”

Competitive pressure among tech giants is propelling society into the future of artificial intelligence, ready or not. Scott Pelley dives into the world of AI with Google CEO Sundar Pichai.

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Author: patd

“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.” ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

40 thoughts on ““Oi!””

  1. today Google,

    tomorrow the World Cup.

    starting at 15:17 in above video watch the new soccer champs in training

  2. about that thread title

    from wiki:

    “Oi” has been particularly associated with working class and Cockney speech. It is effectively a local pronunciation of “hoy“, an older expression.  A study of the Cockney dialect in the 1950s found that whether it was being used to call attention or as a challenge depended on its tone and abruptness. The study’s author noted that the expression is “jaunty and self-assertive” as well as “intensely cockney”.
    A poll of non-English speakers by the British Council in 2004 found that “oi” was considered the 61st most beautiful word in the English language. A spokesman commented that “Oi is not a word that I would’ve thought turned up in English manuals all that often.” “Oi” was added to the list of acceptable words in US Scrabble in 2006.

  7. 60 Minutes was dehumanizingly depressing and I don’t feel any better about it this morning. But I’m going for a walk anyway. 

  8. Are countries going to pay out a basic, living income to humans displaced by AI? Technology was supposed to make human life easier. Instead, it will make even fewer more powerful.
    Everything is always about money.

    ps – They are killing the customers base. Folks have to have an income to buy things. They will have basic, human needs whether or not they have that income, to say nothing if disposable income. The underlying factor of tech seems to be that humans are disposable.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2022/05/13/the-future-of-advertising-is-3d/

    “Digital advertising is in crisis, with multiple forces rapidly compromising the effectiveness of standard digital methods and confusion surrounding the future.”

    “3D advertising could hold the solution, providing completely new ways to reach customers—ways that could make some older methods obsolete.”

    “Selling online is becoming increasingly tough, especially for brands below the highest echelons of the stock market. In one nationwide study of 611 marketing professionals, 61% of respondents reported declining digital ad returns, attributing the fall to increased competition from major brands.”

    “At the same time, online advertising is becoming ever more expensive.”

    “Other factors are in play as well. Companies are starting to realize that CPC metrics are easy to game, masking very modest increases in lift (customers who would not make a purchase without exposure to digital ads). Some companies report that 70% to 90% of all ad clicks come from fraudulent click farms, while losses from bot-based ad fraud amounted to around $23 billion in 2020.”

    “Then there’s the pending death of the cookie. Spurred on by privacy concerns and competition from other browsers, Google Chrome will shift away from third-party trackers in 2023, leaving marketers struggling to gather relevant data…”

    “Standard ads are made for passive consumption. Viewers receive them and act (or refuse to act) accordingly. By contrast, 3D and AR are providing experiences instead of pushing ads. They are designed with interactive features that allow viewers to get to know products actively.”
    *****

    This is NOT connecting with other humans or their 3D environment, but connecting with products VIRTUALLY “in 3D.” The language being used is troublesome.

    Technological advances = Improved sales tools = Sad, but true

  9. sturge, interestingly your “oy gevalt” is a cry for help whereas my “oi” can be either a “psst, looka this” or a challenge depending on how cocky one’s cockny-ness is.

    think we’re up to the challenge option?

  10. Ivy added the gevalt, my next would have been oy vey.   nevertheless, I thought the cockney “Oi” was cockney for “I”.   But oi don’t know from cockney and cannot find Eliza’s cockney-speak as written down by his Shawness. Maybe laterous.

  11. i guess “Hoy” would be oi’s proper pronunciation since you’re right about the way they say I and the oy in oy vey is more like oh-wee.

     

    ivy & sturge, I sincerely apologize for the misattribution. 

  14. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/us/kansas-city-teen-shot-wrong-house/index.html

    “Ralph Yarl was picking up his younger brothers when he mistakenly rang the doorbell at the wrong house. A man shot Ralph twice and now he’s in critical condition.”

    “The homeowner — who has not been identified — was taken into custody and placed on a 24-hour hold, then released while police work to get a victim statement and gather more forensic evidence.”

    “Under Missouri law, a person can be held for up to 24 hours for investigation of a felony, at which time they are required to be charged or released, Graves said at the news conference.”

    “Police learned the teenager’s parents had asked him to pick up his siblings at an address on 115th Terrace, but he accidentally went to a home on 115th Street, where he was shot.”

    “Asked whether the shooting may have been racially motivated, the police chief said, “the information that we have now, it does not say that that is racially motivated. That’s still an active investigation. But as a chief of police, I do recognize the racial components of this case.”

    It would’ve been so much easier to just not answer the door if you don’t know the person. They probably didn’t want him on their property, so yeah, racially motivated.

    Police repeatedly go to wrong addresses and kill folks, too.

    Only in the US of A.

  18. craig, you didn’t catch the *code about “stollen” referring to all the bread ($) he makes on elections. 🙂

    Image result for stollen bread

    what i wonder about is the “good things will happen” part in his rant.  sounds like mob talk for “you’ll get handsomely rewarded” and “if you don’t do what i want bad things will happen.”

    *remember michael cohen saying he always gives orders in code

  19. his diatribe was his response according to newsweek to the news 

    Fox News Throws Trump Under the Bus (msn.com)

    Fox News’ legal defense appears to have taken on a new strategy in the company’s fight against a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems for the network’s alleged lies about the company during the 2020 presidential election: blaming Donald Trump.
    […]
    Now Fox News—which once tried to downplay the role of its executive leadership in the suit—now appears to be blaming Trump.
    The night before the trial’s scheduled start, attorneys for Fox News filed documents imploring the judge overseeing the case to allow them to introduce evidence arguing the company’s allegedly defamatory claims against Dominion’s voting machines were primarily inspired by Trump’s own rhetoric that the election—with Dominion’s involvement—was specifically rigged against him.
    […]
    Newsweek has reached out to attorneys for Fox News and Dominion via email for comment. However, Trump appeared to respond to the developments in a post on his Truth Social platform on Monday, encouraging Fox’s attorneys to double down on his repeated claims the election was stolen from him.
    […]
    On Sunday night, however, attorneys for Fox argued in a new filing that Dominion had allegedly slashed the damages the company was seeking to just $600 million, well below the $1.6 billion the company originally sought. That same day, The Wall Street Journal—which is owned by a subsidiary of Murdoch’s News Corp.—reported that Fox had made a late push to settle the dispute with Dominion Voting Systems out of court.
    Some have speculated the most recent developments could signify a change in the trial’s trajectory and, potentially, lead to the two entities drawing up a settlement in the case.

  20. Coosa River – My first cousin lives on Lake Jordan “in” Wetumpka.  Dad used to go fish with his buddies on the Coosa, and for brief weekend boating we’d go to Lake Logan Martin – can’t remember whether I learned to slalom ski there or Lake Martin.  One of Dad’s buds was from Pell City (which he referred to as Smell Shitty). 

  23. Pogo & Sturge, in 20 years in the ‘ham, I never paid a visit to the Coosa, but definitely the Cahaba and Little Cahaba to where I lived in near proximity along the infamous Sicard Hollow Road (reputedly haunted.) 

  24. All good, Pat and Sturge, Oy, Oy Vey, and Oy Gevalt is the proper progression of exclamations as I was taught in hubs’ Yiddish speaking family. 

  25. In 50 years, global population has doubled which means we have about 4 billion totally unnecessary people crowding out animals and resources.  Developed nations are having less than replacement people while China and India are still in the excessive people production mode.

    Economically, the best solution is to produce better rather than more so that the population that does exist becomes more comfortable and while giving the animals gain more room to expand.

    AI could well be the answer to solve problems all the way around.  You don’t need heirs to care if you have robots to feed and care for the elderly until they pop off the planet.

     

  27. Ivy, ah, the Little Cahaba.  Good memories about it.  I learned, then taught canoeing on the Little Cahaba with a crusty old guy named John Foshee (engineer turned canoe instructor).  Learned the basics of whitewater kayaking there, too.  And re: Sicard Hollow Road, one of my dad’s fishing spots was over on Lake Purdy.  Prolly drove by your house to get there – back before 459 was built – he’d take Grant’s Mill Road out there from Roebuck where we lived, but if you’ve only been there for 20 years woulda been long before your time there.

    Buncha old home week stuff going on there.
     

  28. Todays discussion reminds me of one of my favorite quotes

    ““English is the result of Norman men-at-arms attempting to pick up Saxon barmaids and is no more legitimate than any of the other results.”

    Usually attributed to science fiction author H Beam Piper, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t steal it from someone else.
    Jack
     

  29. For Science Fiction quotes, I usually start with Robert Heinlein

    “Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”

    “There seems to have been an actual decline in rational thinking. The United States had become a place where entertainers and professional athletes were mistaken for people of importance. They were idolized and treated as leaders; their opinions were sought on everything and they took themselves just as seriously-after all, if an athlete is paid a million or more a year, he knows he is important … so his opinions of foreign affairs and domestic policies must be important, too, even though he proves himself to be ignorant and subliterate every time he opens his mouth.” 

    ~ Robert A. Heinlein

     

  30. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/politics/desantis-disney-takeover-florida/index.html

    “Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday threatened to build a prison or a competing theme park near the Magic Kingdom or raise taxes on Walt Disney World to retaliate against the company for resisting a state takeover of its special taxing district.”

    “Laying out his plan to exact retribution against the House of Mouse, the Florida Republican said the GOP-controlled state legislature will take steps to “formally nullify” Disney’s attempts to maintain control of the district through last-minute maneuvering.”

    “The clash between Florida and its largest employer started last year when the state passed a new law that limited classroom instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity. Disney objected to the bill and vowed to help get it repealed. DeSantis responded by targeting the Reedy Creek Improvement District. On Thursday, DeSantis said Disney could “take a hike” if it didn’t like how the state was governing.”

    “Formally nullify”? Is he gonna take a giant ear as a trophy?

    Ron gotta beef with a Mickey! He must hate kids…or maybe his white boots are too tight. Going after the state’s largest employer, telling them they could like it leave the state, that’s DuhSantis for ya. He’s a nasty, little vermin. Ron, not the mouse.

  31. Pogo: glad to hear your good memories. It was very rural out there and “wild” until recently. Our development itself was built on Drummond land. 

    Your dad no doubt made many trips across the original Grant’s Mill Road bridge over Lake Purdy, as I did, holding my breath every time. The rusty old thing couldn’t take the increased traffic from 459 and was finally closed before a real disaster. Now all new, it’s the back-way to Greystone and Hoover. 

    http://www.bhamwiki.com/w/Grant%27s_Mill_Road_bridge

  32. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/politics/dianne-feinstein-mitch-mcconnell/index.html

    The GOP is revolting.

    “Senate Republicans are prepared to block Democratic efforts to replace Sen. Dianne Feinstein on the powerful Judiciary committee, ratcheting up pressure on the 89-year-old California Democrat to resign or return quickly to allow President Joe Biden’s judicial nominees to be confirmed.”

    “I will not go along with Chuck Schumer’s plan to replace Senator Feinstein on the Judiciary Committee and pack the court with activist judges,” Blackburn said on Monday.“

    “Activist judges” like the one in Texas who wants women to die because they won’t have access to reproductive care…because that is exactly what will happen.

  33. https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/world/spacex-starship-launch-attempt-scrubbed-scn/index.html

    “Starship was left grounded on its launchpad in South Texas on Monday morning because of a technical issue, delaying the vehicle’s historic first launch attempt.”

    “SpaceX will have a Thursday morning launch window that opens at 8:28 a.m. CT (9:28 a.m. ET) and closes at 9:30 a.m. CT. (10:30 a.m. ET). The company will livestream the launch attempt on its website, starting about 45 minutes before liftoff.”

    “When launch does occur, the Super Heavy booster is expected to expend its fuel about two and a half minutes after liftoff and separate from the Starship spacecraft, leaving the booster to be discarded in the ocean. The Starship will use its own engines, blazing for more than six minutes, to propel itself to nearly orbital speeds.”

    “The vehicle will then complete nearly one full lap of the planet, reentering the Earth’s atmosphere near Hawaii. The spacecraft is expected to splash down off the coast about an hour and a half after liftoff.”

  34. https://apnews.com/article/chinese-government-justice-department-new-york-police-transnational-repression-05624126f8e6cb00cf9ae3cb01767fa1

    “Two men were arrested Monday on charges that they helped establish a secret police station in New York City on behalf of the Chinese government, and about three dozen officers with China’s national police force were charged with using social media to harass dissidents inside the United States, authorities said Monday.”

    “The men, identified as “Harry” Lu Jianwang, 61, of the Bronx, and Chen Jinping, 59, of Manhattan, both U.S. citizens, were arrested at their homes on Monday morning.”

    “At no point did the men register with the Justice Department as agents of a foreign government, U.S. law enforcement officials said. And though the secret police station did perform some basic services, such as helping Chinese citizens renew their Chinese driver’s licenses, it also served a more “sinister” function, including helping the Chinese government locate a pro-democracy activist of Chinese descent living in California, officials said.”

    “In a separate scheme announced Monday, the Justice Department charged 34 officers in the Ministry of Public Security with creating and using thousands of fake social media accounts on Twitter and other platforms to harass dissidents abroad.”

    “Prosecutors say the defendants, all part of a specialized task force that worked out of a police facility in Beijing, also used social media to spread Chinese government propaganda on subjects including racial justice protests in the U.S., Russia’s war against Ukraine and human rights issues in Hong Kong.”

    “In addition, prosecutors on Monday announced that eight Chinese government officials who are believed to be currently living in China were charged with directing an employee of a U.S. telecommunications company to remove Chinese dissidents from the company’s platform.”

    Things are heating up. It looks like we’re calling out China.

    ps – Someone might want to check out the Chinatown Dialysis Center. There was more going on than dialyzing kidney patients there.

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