Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell, and Chris Hayes discuss the newly unsealed filing from Jack Smith, which lays out the case against Donald Trump over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election. “I’ve never seen it laid out that way before, even though I knew the individual pieces of it. And it just sent a chill down my spine,” says Maddow.
The Vance-Walz debate was universally hailed as “normal,” the former president looked tired and confused at recent speeches, and Stephen’s favorite Alaskan forest animal has returned in time to defend his Fat Bear Week title.
This will play out well past January unless Kamala Harris is not sworn in as president while the case is still pending. All I can say is VOTE.
VP Kamala Harris is hitting the campaign trail with former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney. And where’s it happening? Ripon, Wisconsin—the birthplace of the Republican Party back in 1854.
POLITICO: 11 damning details in Jack Smith’s new brief in the Trump election case
From Trump’s fictitious stats about voter fraud to the FBI’s forensic analysis of Trump’s phone, prosecutors previewed how they would make their case at trial.
Alone with his phone
At 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6, as Trump supporters were attacking the Capitol, Trump took to Twitter to condemn Vice President Mike Pence, saying Pence lacked “courage” because Pence had resisted Trump’s pressure to intervene in the Electoral College certification.
According to Smith’s prosecutors, Trump was alone in the White House dining room when he sent that tweet. Trump’s aides had left him there after failing to persuade him to call on his supporters to leave the Capitol.
“The defendant personally posted the tweet … at a point when he already understood the Capitol had been breached,” prosecutors wrote.
Trump asked: ‘So what?’
The tweet criticizing Pence coincided with one of the most perilous moments of the riot: the precise minute Pence was being evacuated from his Senate office to a loading dock below the Capitol. Rioters had come within 40 feet of where he was sheltering just before this moment.
When Trump was told by an aide of Pence’s evacuation, prosecutors say Trump responded: “So what?”
Trump’s first call for calm — which advisers viewed as insufficient — came 14 minutes later: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
Disregarding the results
According to prosecutors, at one point during Trump’s bid to overturn the results, a Trump White House aide overheard Trump tell his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner: “It doesn’t matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell.” The comment was allegedly made on Marine One.
Inventing statistics
Prosecutors said they would prove at trial that Trump and his allies often made up statistics about voter fraud “from whole cloth.” For example, Trump and allies alleged that 36,000 noncitizens had cast ballots in Arizona, changing the figure to “a few hundred thousand” five days later, eventually revising it back to “bare minimum … 40 or 50,000,” then to 32,000 and back up to the original number of 36,000. Broken promises of evidence
One week after Election Day in 2020, Trump told then-Gov. Doug Ducey (R-Ariz.) that he was “packaging up” fraud evidence to share with him, prosecutors wrote. But Trump never provided it. Ducey told Trump that Arizona was all but lost, comparing it to being in “the ninth inning, two outs, and [the defendant] was several runs down,” Smith’s brief recounted.
Mocking Sidney Powell
After a Fox News host called out Trump-aligned lawyer Sidney Powell for making bizarre claims about Dominion Voting machines, Trump called her on speakerphone. On the Nov. 20, 2020 call, Trump muted his line and mocked her to two aides, calling her claims about the election “crazy” and making a reference to Star Trek, prosecutors contend. On another occasion, he called Powell “unhinged.”
Though it’s not referenced in Smith’s new filing or his indictment, Trump later considered naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate election fraud, and he considered a proposal she crafted to seize voting machines from swing states for a forensic inspection.
Trump’s Jan. 5 call to Steve Bannon
Prosecutors, who had more access to telephone records and emails than the congressional committee that investigated Jan. 6, allege that Trump spoke to ally Steve Bannon by phone on Jan. 5 less than two hours before Bannon issued a prescient and provocative prediction on his War Room podcast that “all hell is going to break loose” on Jan. 6.
A preview of forensic evidence
Prosecutors plan to have an FBI computer forensic examiner testify about Trump’s phone use on Jan. 6. They say it will show which news and social media apps he had on his phone and will reveal that Trump was on Twitter for much of the day. Prosecutors also plan to show at trial what Fox News was broadcasting at specific times during the day, since Trump had it on in the dining room and was watching coverage of the riot.
‘Make them riot’
Well before Jan. 6, an unidentified Trump campaign employee enthusiastically spoke of the potential for a riot in Michigan. The employee, whom prosecutors described as a co-conspirator, allegedly sought to “create chaos” at a polling center in Detroit when it became clear a batch of election returns favorable to Biden was legitimate. “Find a reason it isn’t,” the alleged co-conspirator said to a colleague, prosecutors wrote. When the colleague said an outbreak of violence appeared imminent, the campaign employee replied: “Make them riot” and “Do it!!!”
Rudy’s rise
Trump sidelined his campaign lawyers on Nov. 13, 2020, with Bannon informing another Trump campaign adviser — and alleged co-conspirator — that Trump had replaced them in the pecking order with Rudy Giuliani. Bannon said he told Trump that without Giuliani in charge, “this thing is over.” “Trump is in to the end,” Bannon added, according to prosecutors.
Rudy’s follies
Counting on Giuliani didn’t turn out so well. Smith’s brief includes yet another instance of Giuliani’s prolific record of butt-dialing and clumsy cell phone use. Prosecutors say he attempted to send a proposed resolution to Michigan lawmakers declaring the election to be in dispute — but sent it to the wrong number.
Wishing all my friends of the Jewish faith a very happy Rosh Hashanah.
Thanks, Jamie. A sweet one to you too!
I’m still pissed at Melber…….that was totally asinine to give airtime to that Sondlund swine. Just sickeningly stupid. If I wanted to see that sonna bitch talk I’d watch Fox.
Kamala wins the hurricane primary. Trump’s trip coverage mostly his lie about Kemp-Biden phone call and falsely taking credit for Starlink that FEMA had already delivered.
Augusta local affiliate posts video of her serving food..
Okay, Ted. Sent some bucks to Colin.
Former U.S. Rep. Adam Kinzinger, a Republican who is one of the preeminent critics in his party of former President Donald Trump, will lead a GOP group backing U.S. Rep. Colin Allred, D-Dallas, in his drive to unseat U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz.
Republicans for Allred will be co-chaired by Kinzinger, a former Illinois congressman who later moved to Texas and who has excoriated Trump’s transformation of the GOP, an Allred campaign spokesperson confirmed.
Kinzinger, who spoke during prime time at the Democratic National Convention in August, gained national prominence for serving on the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. He was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump for his effort to overturn the 2020 election.
In 2022, Kinzinger withdrew his reelection bid after his district was eliminated in an overhauled Illinois congressional map.
The Republicans for Allred campaign reinforces Allred’s bid to attract independents and more moderate Republicans — voters he’ll need in order to beat Cruz. Kinzinger’s push for Allred marks the latest high-profile crossover for the Dallas Democrat, after former U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney endorsed Allred last month.
Recent polling shows Cruz holding a tight lead, with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report updating the Texas Senate race from “likely” to “lean” Republican on Tuesday.
Cruz has also garnered endorsements from across the aisle, winning the support of Democratic Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg, in addition to several Democratic county judges, sheriffs and constables.
In a statement, Cruz’s campaign dismissed the Republicans for Allred group as “another fake, feel-good vanity project for Allred.”
I don’t get why national media ignores local interviews Kamala is doing in battleground states, saying she’s not doing interviews. Here she does 10 minutes one-on-one yesterday with Pittsburgh CBS affiliate..
CC……Why? Only a few reasons possible, eh?
But one great big honkin’ obvious one.
There’s no denying it…..the closer this election is the more the betterer for the national media. And if it’s inconveniently not close somewhere, they won hesitate MAKING it close.
Craven.
We don’t have to show you any stinking scruples
BAKING. looks like Special Counsel Jack smith is planning to indict in November over 200 GOP members of congress who assisted Trump in conspiring “to overturn the presidential election and overthrow the government.”
Oh wouldn’t it be loverly?
Craig
But it is not the NY times. They are leading this charge and like the brainless pack that they are the rest of the national media is getting in line. It is like the “Biden is old” with no mention that Trump is equally old. Or go back to Hillary’s emails
The list could go on.
The problem that the national media has in this modern world is they are the media of the past and sliding into irrelevance. What the NY Time says isn’t relevant in this election. It is a local election. That photo op of her handing out food like a candidate for city council proves it.
Jack
NEW: Two former Trump White House officials say they had to show voter data to Trump to get him to release disaster relief funding.
Trump and his lawyers have not refuted any evidence in the DOJ brief, and apparently don’t plan to do so. They just requested a delay of the deadline for their response brief until after the election.
Ya know, the Democrats have a problem. They will put millions of dollars of federal money into a Republican district yet never get credit for it. Yet the local Republican congress critter will claim credit even when he voted against the bill that funded it. If the national Demcratic party was smart, they would have a large billboard on the highway where that new bridge is being built setting the record straight.
Jack
swing…. lady, lady… swing…
Guess FOX paid up…CNN declined Melania’s $250,000 demand for book interview..
RFKjr is saying some wild stuff in his speeches, as if he thinks he will be the real president..
“Don’t you think you deserve a President of the United States that’s going to protect our children? Let’s get President Trump elected so I can go to Washington and dismantle the corrupt merger of state and corporate power.”
A Bad scene at Impact Plastics in Erwin, Tn. People swept away in the flood who shouldn’t have been at work that day. Apparently coerced into showing up.
There are no longer any rules, guidelines, or even suggestions.
Maybe we can hire the so-called “mules” to bring us some terlit paper.
NY Post says Cheryl Hines is leaving RFKjr
Trump on stage, Michigan
Trump just told a crowd in MI that “people in North Carolina aren’t getting any help from the federal government” because, he says, they’ve spent all the money on immigrants.
He said Harris will raise the social security retirement age by “five or six years.”
He said he drew “50,000 or 60,000 people” to an event in WI but was restricted to a room of 900 because the USSS wouldn’t provide security.
It really is an orgy of lying.
This is a second Republican firm finding a statistical tie in Florida..
Trump (R): 50%
Harris (D): 48%
RMG Research / Sept 27, 2024
One of the greatest bar songs ever done.
Harris and Liz Cheney rollout coming shortly. Here is their ad also targeting Republicans..
i figured out the guitar for this last night, turns out it’s Pachabel’s “Canon” 😑
stick with what works i guess
Yeah, that thing got around.
The lovely and talented Miss Tina Peters sentenced to nine years in the hoosegow for stealing election equipment and other dirty acts. She really is off her rocker. Oh yeah, I think that I sat next to her on a panel for a women’s training in politics a very long time ago. The organizers knew she could not stand L women and me there would give her the willies.
Midas Touch network, YouTube, thinks that on page 161 of the 165 pages has information about a “secret” phone sfb was also using on January 6. Interesting.
…writing sexually suggestive lyrics to Mozart now 💰
Jonny Lang, Government Mule – good music, dat.
And Pachelbel’s Canon – divine stuff.
I think that I sat next to her on a panel
Blue Bronc, you lived to tell about it, that itself is a feat.
the saddest of all keys!
every guitarist’s fantasy:
Her face, at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale.
Good looking set for this 6:30pm Harris Cheney event at the birthplace of Republican Party.
Harris Cheney event underway…
Liz Cheney: “I tell you, I have never voted for a Democrat, but this year I am proudly casting my vote for VP Kamala Harris… We are not going back”
Cheney: “He is petty, vindictive and cruel. Donald Trump is not fit to lead this great nation”
Liz Cheney: “Reject the depraved cruelty of Donald Trump” — Country Over Party
Liz Cheney:
“Donald Trump was willing to sacrifice our Capitol to allow law enforcement officers to be beaten and brutalized in his name … I don’t care if you are a Democratic or a Republican or an independent, that is depravity and we must never become numb to it.”
Some kind of monkey wrench in the works over at truth social.
Liz Cheney:
“Today I ask all of you here and everyone listening across this great country to join us. I ask you to meet this moment. I ask you to stand in truth, to reject the depraved cruelty of Donald Trump. I ask you instead to help us elect Kamala Harris for president”
No greater national poster child for the depravity of Republican health system policies than Alabama Governor Kay Ivey.
It’s time to dispel any notion that Kay Ivey is a good person. Her stubbornness is suffocating rural hospitals and the communities they serve. She knows it. She doesn’t care.
Read Jack Smith’s unsealed court filing that says Trump ‘resorted to crimes’ after 2020 election | PBS News
Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell, and Chris Hayes discuss the newly unsealed filing from Jack Smith, which lays out the case against Donald Trump over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election. “I’ve never seen it laid out that way before, even though I knew the individual pieces of it. And it just sent a chill down my spine,” says Maddow.
The Vance-Walz debate was universally hailed as “normal,” the former president looked tired and confused at recent speeches, and Stephen’s favorite Alaskan forest animal has returned in time to defend his Fat Bear Week title.
This will play out well past January unless Kamala Harris is not sworn in as president while the case is still pending. All I can say is VOTE.
VP Kamala Harris is hitting the campaign trail with former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney. And where’s it happening? Ripon, Wisconsin—the birthplace of the Republican Party back in 1854.
POLITICO: 11 damning details in Jack Smith’s new brief in the Trump election case
From Trump’s fictitious stats about voter fraud to the FBI’s forensic analysis of Trump’s phone, prosecutors previewed how they would make their case at trial.
Alone with his phone
At 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6, as Trump supporters were attacking the Capitol, Trump took to Twitter to condemn Vice President Mike Pence, saying Pence lacked “courage” because Pence had resisted Trump’s pressure to intervene in the Electoral College certification.
According to Smith’s prosecutors, Trump was alone in the White House dining room when he sent that tweet. Trump’s aides had left him there after failing to persuade him to call on his supporters to leave the Capitol.
“The defendant personally posted the tweet … at a point when he already understood the Capitol had been breached,” prosecutors wrote.
Trump asked: ‘So what?’
The tweet criticizing Pence coincided with one of the most perilous moments of the riot: the precise minute Pence was being evacuated from his Senate office to a loading dock below the Capitol. Rioters had come within 40 feet of where he was sheltering just before this moment.
When Trump was told by an aide of Pence’s evacuation, prosecutors say Trump responded: “So what?”
Trump’s first call for calm — which advisers viewed as insufficient — came 14 minutes later: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
Disregarding the results
According to prosecutors, at one point during Trump’s bid to overturn the results, a Trump White House aide overheard Trump tell his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner: “It doesn’t matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell.” The comment was allegedly made on Marine One.
Inventing statistics
Prosecutors said they would prove at trial that Trump and his allies often made up statistics about voter fraud “from whole cloth.” For example, Trump and allies alleged that 36,000 noncitizens had cast ballots in Arizona, changing the figure to “a few hundred thousand” five days later, eventually revising it back to “bare minimum … 40 or 50,000,” then to 32,000 and back up to the original number of 36,000.
Broken promises of evidence
One week after Election Day in 2020, Trump told then-Gov. Doug Ducey (R-Ariz.) that he was “packaging up” fraud evidence to share with him, prosecutors wrote. But Trump never provided it. Ducey told Trump that Arizona was all but lost, comparing it to being in “the ninth inning, two outs, and [the defendant] was several runs down,” Smith’s brief recounted.
Mocking Sidney Powell
After a Fox News host called out Trump-aligned lawyer Sidney Powell for making bizarre claims about Dominion Voting machines, Trump called her on speakerphone. On the Nov. 20, 2020 call, Trump muted his line and mocked her to two aides, calling her claims about the election “crazy” and making a reference to Star Trek, prosecutors contend. On another occasion, he called Powell “unhinged.”
Though it’s not referenced in Smith’s new filing or his indictment, Trump later considered naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate election fraud, and he considered a proposal she crafted to seize voting machines from swing states for a forensic inspection.
Trump’s Jan. 5 call to Steve Bannon
Prosecutors, who had more access to telephone records and emails than the congressional committee that investigated Jan. 6, allege that Trump spoke to ally Steve Bannon by phone on Jan. 5 less than two hours before Bannon issued a prescient and provocative prediction on his War Room podcast that “all hell is going to break loose” on Jan. 6.
A preview of forensic evidence
Prosecutors plan to have an FBI computer forensic examiner testify about Trump’s phone use on Jan. 6. They say it will show which news and social media apps he had on his phone and will reveal that Trump was on Twitter for much of the day. Prosecutors also plan to show at trial what Fox News was broadcasting at specific times during the day, since Trump had it on in the dining room and was watching coverage of the riot.
‘Make them riot’
Well before Jan. 6, an unidentified Trump campaign employee enthusiastically spoke of the potential for a riot in Michigan. The employee, whom prosecutors described as a co-conspirator, allegedly sought to “create chaos” at a polling center in Detroit when it became clear a batch of election returns favorable to Biden was legitimate. “Find a reason it isn’t,” the alleged co-conspirator said to a colleague, prosecutors wrote. When the colleague said an outbreak of violence appeared imminent, the campaign employee replied: “Make them riot” and “Do it!!!”
Rudy’s rise
Trump sidelined his campaign lawyers on Nov. 13, 2020, with Bannon informing another Trump campaign adviser — and alleged co-conspirator — that Trump had replaced them in the pecking order with Rudy Giuliani. Bannon said he told Trump that without Giuliani in charge, “this thing is over.” “Trump is in to the end,” Bannon added, according to prosecutors.
Rudy’s follies
Counting on Giuliani didn’t turn out so well. Smith’s brief includes yet another instance of Giuliani’s prolific record of butt-dialing and clumsy cell phone use. Prosecutors say he attempted to send a proposed resolution to Michigan lawmakers declaring the election to be in dispute — but sent it to the wrong number.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-election-brief-details-00182287
Wishing all my friends of the Jewish faith a very happy Rosh Hashanah.
Thanks, Jamie. A sweet one to you too!
I’m still pissed at Melber…….that was totally asinine to give airtime to that Sondlund swine. Just sickeningly stupid. If I wanted to see that sonna bitch talk I’d watch Fox.
Kamala wins the hurricane primary. Trump’s trip coverage mostly his lie about Kemp-Biden phone call and falsely taking credit for Starlink that FEMA had already delivered.
Augusta local affiliate posts video of her serving food..
Okay, Ted. Sent some bucks to Colin.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/02/adam-kinzinger-republicans-colin-allred-texas/
today’s meme…
I don’t get why national media ignores local interviews Kamala is doing in battleground states, saying she’s not doing interviews. Here she does 10 minutes one-on-one yesterday with Pittsburgh CBS affiliate..
CC……Why? Only a few reasons possible, eh?
But one great big honkin’ obvious one.
There’s no denying it…..the closer this election is the more the betterer for the national media. And if it’s inconveniently not close somewhere, they won hesitate MAKING it close.
Craven.
We don’t have to show you any stinking scruples
BAKING. looks like Special Counsel Jack smith is planning to indict in November over 200 GOP members of congress who assisted Trump in conspiring “to overturn the presidential election and overthrow the government.”
Oh wouldn’t it be loverly?
Craig
But it is not the NY times. They are leading this charge and like the brainless pack that they are the rest of the national media is getting in line. It is like the “Biden is old” with no mention that Trump is equally old. Or go back to Hillary’s emails
The list could go on.
The problem that the national media has in this modern world is they are the media of the past and sliding into irrelevance. What the NY Time says isn’t relevant in this election. It is a local election. That photo op of her handing out food like a candidate for city council proves it.
Jack
NEW: Two former Trump White House officials say they had to show voter data to Trump to get him to release disaster relief funding.
Bob Robert’s, 1992
Trump and his lawyers have not refuted any evidence in the DOJ brief, and apparently don’t plan to do so. They just requested a delay of the deadline for their response brief until after the election.
Ya know, the Democrats have a problem. They will put millions of dollars of federal money into a Republican district yet never get credit for it. Yet the local Republican congress critter will claim credit even when he voted against the bill that funded it. If the national Demcratic party was smart, they would have a large billboard on the highway where that new bridge is being built setting the record straight.
Jack
swing…. lady, lady… swing…
Guess FOX paid up…CNN declined Melania’s $250,000 demand for book interview..
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/politics/melania-trump-book-cnn-interview/ind ex.html
Interest
I hope this all doesn’t backfire.
fight just broke out ahead of former President Donald Trump’s rally in Saginaw, Michigan.. https://x.com/annaliznichols/status/1841846986275717381?t=-4oSGXqLyeSAoYZcAj6OJA&s=19
RFKjr is saying some wild stuff in his speeches, as if he thinks he will be the real president..
And they call Kamala a Communist?!?!?
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1841859070556602636?t=RXpRJAB407-i8RFYKTyBvA&s=19
A Bad scene at Impact Plastics in Erwin, Tn. People swept away in the flood who shouldn’t have been at work that day. Apparently coerced into showing up.
There are no longer any rules, guidelines, or even suggestions.
Maybe we can hire the so-called “mules” to bring us some terlit paper.
NY Post says Cheryl Hines is leaving RFKjr
Trump on stage, Michigan
Trump just told a crowd in MI that “people in North Carolina aren’t getting any help from the federal government” because, he says, they’ve spent all the money on immigrants.
He said Harris will raise the social security retirement age by “five or six years.”
He said he drew “50,000 or 60,000 people” to an event in WI but was restricted to a room of 900 because the USSS wouldn’t provide security.
It really is an orgy of lying.
This is a second Republican firm finding a statistical tie in Florida..
Trump (R): 50%
Harris (D): 48%
RMG Research / Sept 27, 2024
One of the greatest bar songs ever done.
Harris and Liz Cheney rollout coming shortly. Here is their ad also targeting Republicans..
i figured out the guitar for this last night, turns out it’s Pachabel’s “Canon” 😑
stick with what works i guess
Yeah, that thing got around.
The lovely and talented Miss Tina Peters sentenced to nine years in the hoosegow for stealing election equipment and other dirty acts. She really is off her rocker. Oh yeah, I think that I sat next to her on a panel for a women’s training in politics a very long time ago. The organizers knew she could not stand L women and me there would give her the willies.
Midas Touch network, YouTube, thinks that on page 161 of the 165 pages has information about a “secret” phone sfb was also using on January 6. Interesting.
…writing sexually suggestive lyrics to Mozart now 💰
Jonny Lang, Government Mule – good music, dat.
And Pachelbel’s Canon – divine stuff.
Blue Bronc, you lived to tell about it, that itself is a feat.
the saddest of all keys!
every guitarist’s fantasy:
Her face, at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale.
Kind of hard to out-groovy that one.
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1841911266526306526
The judge lowers the boom on the 9 years
https://x.com/mxgonzo2/status/1841963091371717093
Good looking set for this 6:30pm Harris Cheney event at the birthplace of Republican Party.
Harris Cheney event underway…
Liz Cheney: “I tell you, I have never voted for a Democrat, but this year I am proudly casting my vote for VP Kamala Harris… We are not going back”
Cheney: “He is petty, vindictive and cruel. Donald Trump is not fit to lead this great nation”
Liz Cheney: “Reject the depraved cruelty of Donald Trump” — Country Over Party
Liz Cheney:
Some kind of monkey wrench in the works over at truth social.
Liz Cheney:
Video… https://x.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1841995291882619047
Monkeys wrenching?
Retching.
Haha. Involved whistleblower, resignation and some kind of something with Nunes.
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-media-truth-social-executives-ousted-devin-nunes
No greater national poster child for the depravity of Republican health system policies than Alabama Governor Kay Ivey.
https://www.al.com/news/2024/10/whitmire-kay-ivey-is-going-to-kill-my-hometown.html
I just watched “Harper and Will”. Damned nice story and great Theme Song.
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