CONCORD, N.H. — A debate among constitutional scholars over former president Donald Trump’s eligibility for the 2024 presidential race has reverberated through the public consciousness in recent weeks and reached the ears of New Hampshire’s top election official.
Secretary of State David Scanlan, who will oversee the first-in-the-nation presidential primary in just five months, said he’s received several letters lately that urge him to take action based on a legal theory that claims the Constitution empowers him to block Trump from the ballot.
Scanlan, a Republican, said he’s listening and will seek legal advice to ensure that his team thoroughly understands the arguments at play.
“Not being a lawyer and not wanting to make a decision in a vacuum, I will be soliciting some legal opinions on what is appropriate or not before I make any decision,” he told the Globe.
“I have some in-house staff attorneys that are election experts,” he said. “I will be asking the attorney general’s office for their input. And ultimately whatever is decided is probably going to require some judicial input.”
A spokesperson for the New Hampshire Department of Justice said the attorney general hasn’t taken a position on these matters, but will review the relevant legal issues and provide guidance as Scanlan requested.
[…]
Two weeks ago, a couple of conservative legal scholars wrote a law review article that argues Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election render him constitutionally disqualified from the 2024 race. They rooted their conclusion in the 14th Amendment, which bars sworn officeholders who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the United States from holding office again. That provision, they contend, is “self-executing” and immediate: “It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications.”
This idea was further popularized in The Atlantic a week ago, and it’s been discussed widely since, including during this week’s Republican presidential debate. Here in New Hampshire, the GOP’s 2020 nominee for the First Congressional District, attorney Bryant “Corky” Messner, said in a radio interview Monday that he read about the legal theory and is now thinking about suing to ensure that Scanlan enforces the Constitution against Trump.
“Someone needs to take some action legally so this thing can get in front of the Supreme Court sooner rather than later to interpret this section,” he said.
There are, of course, differing views. Some legal scholars say the Trump-is-already-disqualified camp overlooks relevant legal precedent. And even some who agree that Trump is disqualified argue that “advancing this argument in a legal challenge is a terrible idea” that “could end up further imperiling our already fragile republic.”
Scanlan said the former president — who faces four criminal indictments, including two that pertain to his attempts to subvert democracy after the 2020 election — is entitled to due process. And he said judges are better equipped than he currently is to determine whether the campaign that culminated in violence at the US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, triggers the 14th Amendment.
“I view the violence as being a really unfortunate event in our history,” he said. “I don’t know that I’m really qualified to say whether that was an ‘insurrection’ or not. I think that is for the courts to decide.”
karmic retribution?
Attribution: John McCain Karma by Rick McKee, CagleCartoons.com
speaking of inmate #1135809,
looking forward to a randy rainbow parody (hopefully) of “it’s a perfect relationship” from musical Bells are Ringing. it could make for a perfect magaT anthem just substituting 1135809 somehow instead of the PL04433 in the lyrics:
Doggy day. I will have to give Gale an extra yummy, and keep the cats away from her food bowl. Chunky likes the kibble and water instead of her own. Boo just likes to watch her dog eat. It sure sounds complicated.
Would love that Randy parody. In the meantime, if you are looking for something useful to do, help clean up Yosemite and get a foot massage.
Palm Beach County lawyer files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race, filed in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the 14th Amendment’s “disqualification clause…
“Months after what critics have decried as a conservative takeover at New College of Florida, students and professors say a sense of confusion and anxiety looms over the start of fall semester in Sarasota, Florida.”
“Amy Reid, a member of the school’s Board of Trustees, said course options have dwindled after nearly 40% of faculty members have resigned.”
“In January, Gov. Ron DeSantis replaced six of the 13 members on the college’s Board of Trustees. New members include Christopher Rufo, who who has been at the forefront of the conservative movement against critical race theory.”
“In May, Gov. DeSantis signed a series of higher education bills on the campus of New College, aimed at ending critical race theory and curbing diversity spending in higher education.”
“The new board has since voted to abolish diversity, equity and inclusion programs…”
“The New College Board of Trustees is succeeding in its mission to eliminate indoctrination and re-focus higher education on its classical mission,” DeSantis said earlier this month in a press release.
“Earlier this month, the Board of Trustees began the process to eliminate the school’s gender studies program. The move prompted one gender studies professor, Nicholas Clarkson, to quit.”
“When you start banning terms and banning fields of study and arguing that the state has the right to tell faculty what they can and can’t say in the classroom that really hampers the learning environment,” Clarkson told CNN.”
“In his resignation letter, Clarkson described Florida as “the state where learning goes to die.”
FloriDuh
A Randy parody needs to be tRUMPsky’s prisoner number set to the tune of Tommy Tutone’s “Jenny, Jenny, 867-5309.”
Donny,Donny, 1135809
Was just looking at team Trump’s motion for April 2026 trial in DC case, to be decided by the judge at the hearing on Monday. They based that on their review of typical timelines during the pandemic when courts were shut down and backlogged, took an average of 30 months to get to trial. They didn’t think the Judge would see right through that? They’re insulting her intelligence. That’s an argument that would fly on FOX Fake News but not in federal court!
Zillow shows Trump sold Mar-a-Lago to Don Jr for $422 million before his latest arrest
The price seems greatly inflated. Trump bought it, furniture & all, for $10 million. Looks fishy.
lol bought for 20x the zillow estimated value, what a sucker
i’m jk ofc, don jr. doesn’t have $420,000,000 😆 😆 😆
What are property tax laws in Florida? Oh, yeah. The tRUMP crime family doesn’t pay taxes anyway. I wonder what the latest, county tax assessment shows?
“For the 2023 tax rolls, the county appraisal team this month assigned Mar-a-Lago an estimated market value of $37 million and a preliminary taxable value of about $33.4 million, up from $31 million and $30.36 million, respectively, last year.”
“As Officer Sicknick and hundreds of others—including other police officers, elected officials, and rank-and-file workers at the Capitol—were put in mortal danger, and as the seat of American Democracy was desecrated by the insurgent mob, Defendant Trump watched the events unfold on live television from the safety of the White House,” lawyers for Sicknick’s estate and his partner Sandra Garza wrote in the complaint. “The horrific events of January 6, 2021, including Officer Sicknick’s tragic, wrongful death, were a direct and foreseeable consequence of the Defendants’ unlawful actions.”
“Sicknick’s estate also alleges a conspiracy, negligence and assault.”
“Coming soon:
Trump World Golf Club, Dubai, United Arab Emirates”
UAE, here he comes?
Mrs Jack and I were in KeyWest Fl one winter. We were doing a sailboat tour. A large yacht motored past and several of the passengers we were chatting with expressed envy. I said I had no desire to own it, I just wanted to be the banker who collected the interest payment every month.
Which is good as long as the payment is made. Wanna bet that sometime in the next few years the llc/corp than DJ used to over pay for Mar-a-Lago will quietly go into bankruptcy. It is a planned deal, and everybody gets a tax write off.
Jack
BiD it is my understanding that a lot of those properties with the Trump name on them are owned by other folks they just pay to use the Trump name. Not that I will ever know as I will never stay in one let alone own one.
Jack
Maybe he made $420,000,000 in his career as a…
…as a…
🤔
Just finished eating. fried green tomatoes, fried okra with country ham, btw the tomatoes were coated the okra wasn’t. Biscuits with sorghum, 2 slices of country bacon, they called it a steak cut, think about your ordinary thick cut bacon and double the thickness, Fresh sliced tomatoes and the last of the morning coffee,
Who needs Mar-a-Lago when you have that for a late breakfast.
Life is good
Jack
Perfect joke making the rounds for a respectful send-off:
I cannot believe Bob Barker lived as close to 100 as possible without going over.
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Saturday reiterated his pledge to send US Special Forces into Mexico to confront drug cartels if he is elected president, saying, “We are going to act.”
RonDuh would have the US invade Mexico?
“DeSantis spokesperson Bryan Griffin told CNN, “Ron DeSantis will declare a national emergency on day one, mobilize all military resources, declare the cartels to be narco-terrorists, and change the rules of engagement on the border. The full force of the federal government will be utilized to ensure that illegal drug flow is stopped, and he will bring to bear every tool he has to this end.”
“…designating the cartels as a foreign terrorist organization would allow “for lethal action,” though that “doesn’t eliminate the diplomatic controversy and outrage in Mexico that any Mexican government would have.”
Reading back through the House January 6th Committee report I ran into this again, how telling:
Trump advisor Hope Hicks texted another White House aide on Jan. 6, 2021: “We all look like domestic terrorists now.”
Her trial testimony should be memorable.
Oh, glad you enjoyed the tunes, yesterday, Mr. P. Sorry about the interludes but i like my guitar like i like my peanut butter- crunchy.
“Donald Trump’s campaign says it has raised $7.1 million since the former president was processed at an Atlanta jail Thursday in the Georgia election subversion case.”
“Trump’s fundraising total for the past three weeks, following his indictment and arraignment in Washington related to the federal January 6 case and then his surrender and processing at the Fulton County jail in Georgia, is close to $20 million, a Trump campaign official said.”
“On Friday, the day following his arrest in Georgia, Trump raised $4.18 million, the highest-grossing day of the entire campaign, the source said.”
“Trump’s advisers said they were very pleased with the media coverage Thursday, and the former president immediately began to fundraise off of his arrest.”
first read:
Trump Is Constitutionally Prohibited From the Presidency – The Atlantic
and
The Constitutional Case for Barring Trump from the Presidency | The New Yorker
then read:
Florida attorney’s 14th Amendment lawsuit aims to disqualify Trump (palmbeachpost.com)
Judge Luttig: Secretaries Of States Will Decline To Place Trump On The Ballot, Argue He Is Unqualified | Video | RealClearPolitics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/22/judge_luttig_secretaries_of_states_will_decline_to_place_trump_on_the_ballot_argue_he_is_unqualified.html
Is Trump disqualified for the N.H. primary? The secretary of state is seeking legal advice. (msn.com)
karmic retribution?
Attribution: John McCain Karma by Rick McKee, CagleCartoons.com
speaking of inmate #1135809,
looking forward to a randy rainbow parody (hopefully) of “it’s a perfect relationship” from musical Bells are Ringing. it could make for a perfect magaT anthem just substituting 1135809 somehow instead of the PL04433 in the lyrics:
by the way, it’s national doggy day!
National Dog Day 2023 freebies and deals: Dunkin’, Starbucks, Shake Shack, PetSmart… – AS USA
Doggy day. I will have to give Gale an extra yummy, and keep the cats away from her food bowl. Chunky likes the kibble and water instead of her own. Boo just likes to watch her dog eat. It sure sounds complicated.
Would love that Randy parody. In the meantime, if you are looking for something useful to do, help clean up Yosemite and get a foot massage.
Yosemite Facelift 2023 – Rush Creek Lodge
Other parks have similar programs.
Here are facelift clean up projects for other locations.
Facelift® Locations — Yosemite Climbing Association
Palm Beach County lawyer files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race, filed in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the 14th Amendment’s “disqualification clause…
— palmbeachpost.com
today’s meme…
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/us/new-college-of-florida-chaos-reaj/index.html
“Months after what critics have decried as a conservative takeover at New College of Florida, students and professors say a sense of confusion and anxiety looms over the start of fall semester in Sarasota, Florida.”
“Amy Reid, a member of the school’s Board of Trustees, said course options have dwindled after nearly 40% of faculty members have resigned.”
“In January, Gov. Ron DeSantis replaced six of the 13 members on the college’s Board of Trustees. New members include Christopher Rufo, who who has been at the forefront of the conservative movement against critical race theory.”
“In May, Gov. DeSantis signed a series of higher education bills on the campus of New College, aimed at ending critical race theory and curbing diversity spending in higher education.”
“The new board has since voted to abolish diversity, equity and inclusion programs…”
“The New College Board of Trustees is succeeding in its mission to eliminate indoctrination and re-focus higher education on its classical mission,” DeSantis said earlier this month in a press release.
“Earlier this month, the Board of Trustees began the process to eliminate the school’s gender studies program. The move prompted one gender studies professor, Nicholas Clarkson, to quit.”
“When you start banning terms and banning fields of study and arguing that the state has the right to tell faculty what they can and can’t say in the classroom that really hampers the learning environment,” Clarkson told CNN.”
“In his resignation letter, Clarkson described Florida as “the state where learning goes to die.”
FloriDuh
A Randy parody needs to be tRUMPsky’s prisoner number set to the tune of Tommy Tutone’s “Jenny, Jenny, 867-5309.”
Donny,Donny, 1135809
Was just looking at team Trump’s motion for April 2026 trial in DC case, to be decided by the judge at the hearing on Monday. They based that on their review of typical timelines during the pandemic when courts were shut down and backlogged, took an average of 30 months to get to trial. They didn’t think the Judge would see right through that? They’re insulting her intelligence. That’s an argument that would fly on FOX Fake News but not in federal court!
Zillow shows Trump sold Mar-a-Lago to Don Jr for $422 million before his latest arrest
The price seems greatly inflated. Trump bought it, furniture & all, for $10 million. Looks fishy.
lol bought for 20x the zillow estimated value, what a sucker
i’m jk ofc, don jr. doesn’t have $420,000,000 😆 😆 😆
What are property tax laws in Florida? Oh, yeah. The tRUMP crime family doesn’t pay taxes anyway. I wonder what the latest, county tax assessment shows?
“For the 2023 tax rolls, the county appraisal team this month assigned Mar-a-Lago an estimated market value of $37 million and a preliminary taxable value of about $33.4 million, up from $31 million and $30.36 million, respectively, last year.”
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com › …
Oops! Eric Trump denies Mar-a-Lago sold for $422 million; Zillow admits listing error
At any rate, Donald is trying to protect assets, I guess. Mmmm, civil suits coming.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/sicknick-lawsuit-trump-january-6/index.html
“As Officer Sicknick and hundreds of others—including other police officers, elected officials, and rank-and-file workers at the Capitol—were put in mortal danger, and as the seat of American Democracy was desecrated by the insurgent mob, Defendant Trump watched the events unfold on live television from the safety of the White House,” lawyers for Sicknick’s estate and his partner Sandra Garza wrote in the complaint. “The horrific events of January 6, 2021, including Officer Sicknick’s tragic, wrongful death, were a direct and foreseeable consequence of the Defendants’ unlawful actions.”
“Sicknick’s estate also alleges a conspiracy, negligence and assault.”
“Coming soon:
Trump World Golf Club, Dubai, United Arab Emirates”
UAE, here he comes?
Mrs Jack and I were in KeyWest Fl one winter. We were doing a sailboat tour. A large yacht motored past and several of the passengers we were chatting with expressed envy. I said I had no desire to own it, I just wanted to be the banker who collected the interest payment every month.
Which is good as long as the payment is made. Wanna bet that sometime in the next few years the llc/corp than DJ used to over pay for Mar-a-Lago will quietly go into bankruptcy. It is a planned deal, and everybody gets a tax write off.
Jack
BiD it is my understanding that a lot of those properties with the Trump name on them are owned by other folks they just pay to use the Trump name. Not that I will ever know as I will never stay in one let alone own one.
Jack
Maybe he made $420,000,000 in his career as a…
…as a…
🤔
Just finished eating. fried green tomatoes, fried okra with country ham, btw the tomatoes were coated the okra wasn’t. Biscuits with sorghum, 2 slices of country bacon, they called it a steak cut, think about your ordinary thick cut bacon and double the thickness, Fresh sliced tomatoes and the last of the morning coffee,
Who needs Mar-a-Lago when you have that for a late breakfast.
Life is good
Jack
Perfect joke making the rounds for a respectful send-off:
I cannot believe Bob Barker lived as close to 100 as possible without going over.
Damn Jack, I’ll be right over
I Witnessed the Best of America
Memoir of the 1963 March on America contrasted to today
Interesting proposed California development of an “ideal city”
Silicon Valley rich kids buying up Solano
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/politics/desantis-special-forces-mexico/index.html
“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Saturday reiterated his pledge to send US Special Forces into Mexico to confront drug cartels if he is elected president, saying, “We are going to act.”
RonDuh would have the US invade Mexico?
“DeSantis spokesperson Bryan Griffin told CNN, “Ron DeSantis will declare a national emergency on day one, mobilize all military resources, declare the cartels to be narco-terrorists, and change the rules of engagement on the border. The full force of the federal government will be utilized to ensure that illegal drug flow is stopped, and he will bring to bear every tool he has to this end.”
“…designating the cartels as a foreign terrorist organization would allow “for lethal action,” though that “doesn’t eliminate the diplomatic controversy and outrage in Mexico that any Mexican government would have.”
Reading back through the House January 6th Committee report I ran into this again, how telling:
Trump advisor Hope Hicks texted another White House aide on Jan. 6, 2021: “We all look like domestic terrorists now.”
Her trial testimony should be memorable.
Oh, glad you enjoyed the tunes, yesterday, Mr. P. Sorry about the interludes but i like my guitar like i like my peanut butter- crunchy.
Jarred, also, i suppose 😜
A little bit of Chunky guitar
The kid’s still at it.
the kid had “it”
New t-shirt for sale.
well that’s an easy ****, marry, ****
🏃♂️
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/politics/trump-mugshot-fundraising-campaign/index.html
“Donald Trump’s campaign says it has raised $7.1 million since the former president was processed at an Atlanta jail Thursday in the Georgia election subversion case.”
“Trump’s fundraising total for the past three weeks, following his indictment and arraignment in Washington related to the federal January 6 case and then his surrender and processing at the Fulton County jail in Georgia, is close to $20 million, a Trump campaign official said.”
“On Friday, the day following his arrest in Georgia, Trump raised $4.18 million, the highest-grossing day of the entire campaign, the source said.”
“Trump’s advisers said they were very pleased with the media coverage Thursday, and the former president immediately began to fundraise off of his arrest.”
Some folks sure have a taste for sh/t.
NEW THREAD by Jack