The Justice Department plans to provide key members of Congress with a more complete version of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report than what will be made public on Thursday, prosecutors told a federal judge on Wednesday.
Federal prosecutors described the plan to provide nonpublic material to Congress — where Democratic lawmakers have been pushing to receive an unredacted version of the report — in a court filing made Wednesday in the case against Trump confidant Roger Stone.
[…]
Last week, his attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the case. Separately, they asked the judge to release to them a full copy of Mueller’s report, arguing that it could contain exculpatory material showing Mueller had unfairly targeted Stone and chose not to charge others who also appeared to have lied to Congress.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson has imposed a strict gag order in the case, forbidding Stone and the government from making public comments that could affect whether Stone receives a fair trial.
In their filing, prosecutors assured the judge that her order is being considered as redactions were made to a version of the Mueller report set to be publicly released Thursday. In particular, they wrote that information related to the charges in Stone’s case will be redacted from the report.
They also alerted the judge, however, that the Justice Department intends to “make available for review” a version of the report without “certain redactions” to “a limited number of Members of Congress and their staff.”
Among the information that will be left unredacted, prosecutors said, will be material about the Stone investigation.
They described steps they will take to keep the more complete version of the report from becoming public, saying it will be made available to some lawmakers and their staff in a secure location and they will not be allowed to remove it or publicize it.
If lawmakers ask for copies of the fuller report and it seems likely that the material related to Stone could be made available to the media or accessed by the public, the Justice Department plans to seek guidance from the judge before responding to the request, prosecutors said.
That process would allow a federal judge to have some input on whether at least some portion of the report becomes public.
Attorney General William P. Barr has said he intends to be as transparent as possible in releasing the report, given legal and policy guidelines.
But he has said information falling into four categories of material will be redacted: evidence subject to grand jury secrecy laws; information about sensitive intelligence matters; material that could intrude on the privacy of peripheral people who were not charged with crimes; and information about ongoing investigations.
[…]
The House Judiciary Committee has authorized the panel’s chairman to issue a subpoena for the report. Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) has said he will review the version of the report released by Barr on Thursday, but could issue a subpoena soon after.
wapo editorial board: Barr’s redactions on the Mueller report don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt
[…]
There may be no satisfying end to this national saga until an independent referee steps in to sort out the controversy. Reggie Walton, a U.S. district judge, raised on Tuesday one possibility for further review. Accusing Mr. Barr of creating “an environment that has caused a significant part of the public . . . to be concerned about whether or not there is full transparency,” the judge raised the possibility that he would demand an unredacted copy to review whether the Justice Department’s omissions were warranted. We hope he follows through. Mr. Walton could ensure that the redactions followed Freedom of Information Act procedures and were not influenced by political considerations.
That would still leave the question of whether Congress should have full access to the unredacted document, as Democrats want. Separate legal proceedings initiated by House Democrats would have to consider tricky questions of what one branch of government owes another.
Transparency won out during the Watergate crisis and in the Bill Clinton impeachment battle. Even if judges determine that some elements of the Mueller report cannot be shared with the public, members of Congress have a serious claim that they should have wider access, as they do regularly to classified information in other contexts.
The Mueller investigation and its report have consumed national attention for many months, and rightly so: They concern a foreign attack on the nation’s democracy, the reactions of the country’s leaders and the task that faces policymakers in securing democratic institutions against future intrusions. This is not a time for timidity on transparency.
Barr is committed to transparency? Right, like I’m committed to a guitar virtuoso. Of course I’m not actively trying to foil my becoming proficient at the guitar, unlike Barr who has worked extremely hard to prevent being transparent about the content of the Mueller report.
pogo, looks like barr will give the presser BEFORE he releases the redacted report, priming the pump before turning on the tap so to speak.
I will skip the dog and pony show and look for the reviews on Twitter.
Fun thing – one episode of NCIS had the bad guy living in my community. The map showed this little piece of heaven in the Chesapeake Bay, but with a fictional name. The map was shown several times during the program too. Of interest to me is nobody has said they moved here because of it.
When will this national nightmare be over
wapo: The report will be delivered on discs to Capitol Hill between 11 a.m. and noon and posted on the special counsel’s website thereafter, the official said.
Lanny Davis, the attorney for Michael Cohen, said Thursday that Cohen “can fill in the bulk of the redactions” in special counsel Robert Mueller‘s report, which is set to be released on Thursday.
Davis added that Cohen, President Trump’s former longtime lawyer, “has 7 days, 70 hours, + 100 pages of what” Mueller’s team knows.
“As the #Country waits for the #MuellerReport, know this … it does not matter how #Barr #RedactedMuellerReport. @MichaelCohen212 has 7 days, 70 hours, + 100 pages of what #TeamMueller knows and can fill in the bulk of the redactions. Nice try Mr. @POTUS. #Truth We will tell it all,” Davis wrote in a tweet.
Wow Barr would rather suck up to SFB and do a face plant on his butt than have a reputation as a decent hard working ag.
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said Attorney General William Barr sounded like a counselor to the president during his press conference Thursday ahead of the release of special counsel Robert Mueller‘s report.
“The Attorney General seemed almost to be acting as the counselor for the defense, the counselor for the president, rather than the attorney general, talking about his motives, his emotions,” Wallace told “America’s Newsroom” anchors Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith.
“Really, as I say, making a case for the president,” he added.
[…]
yep, you read that right: F.O.X.
just saw a pig flying
.
I just got home from having breakfast with friends… I missed the presser. Sounds like I didn’t miss anything that wasn’t expected.
On another note… yesterday we received our shipment of Easter chocolates from OldSeaHag… we started digging in last night…. YUM!
Cable news is trying to create a searchable version for those without ink and paper to download and print.
Hey patd do you think Chris Wallace thought that was a bad thing. It’s what fatassthegolfing president wants
So Bill Barr is just another big fat liar for SFB
I told you that barr was a bad actor when perp #1 nominated him to be the AG.
LOCK ‘EM ALL UP !
I presume that the month that barr held up the release, was filled with focus groups, marketing analysis, and possible forgery.
It’s time to get Mr Mueller to ID the text and fill in the blanks.
I don’t like the way Rep Nadler has handled this business. I’m very disappointed in his soft approach.
Barr…
I am told he had a decent reputation at some point in the not too distant past. No longer. C’est la vie.
renee, too bad you missed it. here’s a replay of the barr presser by Alexandra petri:
*Attorney General William P. Barr steps to the lectern.*
Hello, everyone. I am here to repeat the words “no collusion” as many times as I can without sounding suspicious, but first, I would like to thank Rod Rosenstein. He is here standing behind me. He had plans to step back from public service before I came along and asked him to assist me. Then again, some would argue that by assisting me, he did not perform a public service. Anyway, he is here.
I would also like to thank Robert Mueller for making this report for me to redact. I feel like it is a joint creation between the two of us. He is not standing here with me today. Instead, there is a bearded man who, no doubt, is familiar to you all. I will certainly not introduce him at any point. I will leave his identity to your imagination! Worst-case scenario, this will just accustom you to seeing strange facts without context, something that will help you as you consume the report!
The good news is that, although the Russian government did interfere in the 2016 election with hacking and disinformation campaigns, it did not do so literally at the behest of the Trump campaign, in my opinion. Was that the opinion of the Mueller team? Who can say? But if it wasn’t, it should have been, I think. Make no mistake, Russia did interfere to help him, but this effort was just sort of a fun lagniappe. Nobody asked for it.
Really, it was like when you are just sitting on a couch trying to have a nice time and your cat unexpectedly brings you a dead bird. (In this scenario, the dead bird is the American people.) You did not expect it! You don’t even want it. But the cat seemed to think it was a nice gesture. Well, that is how Donald Trump feels about winning this election. In brief, this was not at all coordinated. Anyway, as I think anyone who has been watching the Trump presidency can see, this is not a man who expected to win.
Some more words about the president’s feelings: Speaking as the attorney general of the United States, whose function is to defend the law of the land and not the person of the president, I would like for just a minute to defend the person of the president. You see, he has a lot of feelings and is facing an unprecedented situation. His pain is real, and we should respect it. He has been very frustrated and angry, and, I think, sincerely so. As I have learned from my years in close communion with the law, being very frustrated is a great legal defense against wrongdoing.
Between you and me, he is so lonely. I wish I could convey to you the unspeakable loneliness of his position. The president is not a well man. His doctor, a real doctor, has said we are to keep him from shocks — shocks such as seeing his name in the same sentence as the word “collusion” unaccompanied by the word “no,” or really any sudden experience of extreme feeling. This is why we must not let him stare too long at art that is particularly moving, lest its beauty knock something loose in him and destroy his system entirely. So I ask: If we, if any of us, can just do our part to spare him from hearing the awful word “collusion” that distresses him so much, is there any price we would not pay? Is there any sacrifice we would not make?
I will now take questions.
Q: Where is Mueller?
A: My friend with the beard is here!
Q: What do you say to people who say that you are going out of your way to defend the presidented, talking about how he faces ‘an unprecedented situation’?
A: I would say, is there another precedent for it?
Q: . . . No.
A: Boom! QED! *runs a victory lap around the room, high-fiving anyone who will accept it, but no one will*
Q: Where’s Mueller? Isn’t this Mueller’s report?
A: NO! IT IS MY REPORT, MINE! HE DID IT FOR ME! I AM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL! No more questions, goodbye.
patd… alriiiiight…. thanks for that…. now I know all about the presser… 🙂
They’re going to “shoot the moon”.
Give em enough rope.
Do not be stampeded into a futile gesture of
” impeachment”
Impeachment would only serve their purpose. The GOP would not convict and then they’d have a cudgel with which to fundraise etc.
Slow and steady wins the race.
A detailed report from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III said investigators struggled with both the legal implications of investigating President Trump for possible obstruction of justice and the motives behind a range of his most alarming actions, from seeking the ouster of officials to ordering a memo that would clear his name.
“The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment,” the report stated. “At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
[continues]
changing the order of the last 2 sentences for the sake of clarity –
Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we areunable to reach that judgment…
… that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice
– sounds like they really really think he did.
Bloomberg also quotes the report on this:
Mueller said he lacked confidence to clear Trump of obstruction of justice but added that Congress had the authority to act. “We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a president’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,” the report states.
“Our investigation found multiple acts by the president that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russia-interference and obstruction investigations,” according to the report. “The president engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.”
Mr Sturgeone, I just thought that Nadler should have ordered witness barr to answer the questions, closing the escape routes figuratively and literally.
I mean, the hearing was to find facts, not to give barr practice in declining questions.
Yep you right on that x
While the turmoil and idiocy continues in D.C. I just watched the launch and succesfull return of the boosters and center engine of Falcon heavy launch of Arabsat 6A communications satellite from Kennedy Space Center. Stunning to watch those rockets return and land. This is so amazing to me. But, it is going to be one of those expected results of space travel from now on. Many forget that space is a crap shoot. We may have a good feeling of one of the dice, but we never have full control over both.
x-r
how’s the campaign going
Ms Cracker,
I can confidently say that if I am nominated for president by a major party, I shall run.
Right now I am leading the pack among the totally unknown candidates, and am creeping silently forward. I don’t want to spook the big game.
sounds like a plan to me
I think there should be a national demonstration to show people do not believe Barr ot Trump and especially not Slanders Suckabee
Don’t expect SFB’s supporters to peel away or even Republican elected officials –
The Kochs and the Mercers are probably sponsoring a Meet-UP on how to defend SFB
Well, Congress now faces the age-old question, “ What the FUCK do we do now?”
Ms. Bronc, I so appreciate your viewpoint from the inside. Thank you. And that dice example. Fucking A.
I told ya so is not a rallying cry
Ok, WTF is this? TDS is rerunning their 3/27/19 episode … on the fucking night of the release of the Mueller/Barr report. WHO. Is the producer of this show??? Honest to God … ?
There are still 12 investigations, some of them criminal, and criminal trials coming up.
It ain’t over until the fat boy squeals.
I told ya so is not a rallying cry – Ms Cracker
How about, LOCK ‘EM UP ! LOCK ‘EMALLLLUP !
It has a kinda familiar ring to it that rippers might be able to relate to.
Seriously, the rallying cry is, russia attacked America with republican help ; trump TREASON !
This ought to be spread by MeToo, Black Lives Matter, the environmental movements, the lgbtqi movements, the besieged religious minorities, ‘conservative’ Dems, ‘mainstream’ Dems, ‘progressive’ Dems, Jobs Dems, libertarian Dems, yaller dawg Dems, Poor People Dems, Silicon Dems or Wall Street Dems. We can wrassle about the direction of the nation after we get the russians and their 5th columnist army out of our way. But as long as putin’s marching marons have any power or credibility, they’ll make trouble for the US and prevent healing and cures.
wapo:
The Justice Department plans to provide key members of Congress with a more complete version of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report than what will be made public on Thursday, prosecutors told a federal judge on Wednesday.
Federal prosecutors described the plan to provide nonpublic material to Congress — where Democratic lawmakers have been pushing to receive an unredacted version of the report — in a court filing made Wednesday in the case against Trump confidant Roger Stone.
[…]
Last week, his attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the case. Separately, they asked the judge to release to them a full copy of Mueller’s report, arguing that it could contain exculpatory material showing Mueller had unfairly targeted Stone and chose not to charge others who also appeared to have lied to Congress.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson has imposed a strict gag order in the case, forbidding Stone and the government from making public comments that could affect whether Stone receives a fair trial.
In their filing, prosecutors assured the judge that her order is being considered as redactions were made to a version of the Mueller report set to be publicly released Thursday. In particular, they wrote that information related to the charges in Stone’s case will be redacted from the report.
They also alerted the judge, however, that the Justice Department intends to “make available for review” a version of the report without “certain redactions” to “a limited number of Members of Congress and their staff.”
Among the information that will be left unredacted, prosecutors said, will be material about the Stone investigation.
They described steps they will take to keep the more complete version of the report from becoming public, saying it will be made available to some lawmakers and their staff in a secure location and they will not be allowed to remove it or publicize it.
If lawmakers ask for copies of the fuller report and it seems likely that the material related to Stone could be made available to the media or accessed by the public, the Justice Department plans to seek guidance from the judge before responding to the request, prosecutors said.
That process would allow a federal judge to have some input on whether at least some portion of the report becomes public.
Attorney General William P. Barr has said he intends to be as transparent as possible in releasing the report, given legal and policy guidelines.
But he has said information falling into four categories of material will be redacted: evidence subject to grand jury secrecy laws; information about sensitive intelligence matters; material that could intrude on the privacy of peripheral people who were not charged with crimes; and information about ongoing investigations.
[…]
The House Judiciary Committee has authorized the panel’s chairman to issue a subpoena for the report. Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) has said he will review the version of the report released by Barr on Thursday, but could issue a subpoena soon after.
wapo editorial board: Barr’s redactions on the Mueller report don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt
[…]
There may be no satisfying end to this national saga until an independent referee steps in to sort out the controversy. Reggie Walton, a U.S. district judge, raised on Tuesday one possibility for further review. Accusing Mr. Barr of creating “an environment that has caused a significant part of the public . . . to be concerned about whether or not there is full transparency,” the judge raised the possibility that he would demand an unredacted copy to review whether the Justice Department’s omissions were warranted. We hope he follows through. Mr. Walton could ensure that the redactions followed Freedom of Information Act procedures and were not influenced by political considerations.
That would still leave the question of whether Congress should have full access to the unredacted document, as Democrats want. Separate legal proceedings initiated by House Democrats would have to consider tricky questions of what one branch of government owes another.
Transparency won out during the Watergate crisis and in the Bill Clinton impeachment battle. Even if judges determine that some elements of the Mueller report cannot be shared with the public, members of Congress have a serious claim that they should have wider access, as they do regularly to classified information in other contexts.
The Mueller investigation and its report have consumed national attention for many months, and rightly so: They concern a foreign attack on the nation’s democracy, the reactions of the country’s leaders and the task that faces policymakers in securing democratic institutions against future intrusions. This is not a time for timidity on transparency.
Barr is committed to transparency? Right, like I’m committed to a guitar virtuoso. Of course I’m not actively trying to foil my becoming proficient at the guitar, unlike Barr who has worked extremely hard to prevent being transparent about the content of the Mueller report.
pogo, looks like barr will give the presser BEFORE he releases the redacted report, priming the pump before turning on the tap so to speak.
https://theweek.com/5things/835952/barr-hold-press-conference-mueller-report-before-release
I will skip the dog and pony show and look for the reviews on Twitter.
Fun thing – one episode of NCIS had the bad guy living in my community. The map showed this little piece of heaven in the Chesapeake Bay, but with a fictional name. The map was shown several times during the program too. Of interest to me is nobody has said they moved here because of it.
When will this national nightmare be over
wapo: The report will be delivered on discs to Capitol Hill between 11 a.m. and noon and posted on the special counsel’s website thereafter, the official said.
Baghdad Barr
also from the hill:
Lanny Davis, the attorney for Michael Cohen, said Thursday that Cohen “can fill in the bulk of the redactions” in special counsel Robert Mueller‘s report, which is set to be released on Thursday.
Davis added that Cohen, President Trump’s former longtime lawyer, “has 7 days, 70 hours, + 100 pages of what” Mueller’s team knows.
“As the #Country waits for the #MuellerReport, know this … it does not matter how #Barr #RedactedMuellerReport. @MichaelCohen212 has 7 days, 70 hours, + 100 pages of what #TeamMueller knows and can fill in the bulk of the redactions. Nice try Mr. @POTUS. #Truth We will tell it all,” Davis wrote in a tweet.
Wow Barr would rather suck up to SFB and do a face plant on his butt than have a reputation as a decent hard working ag.
the hill:
yep, you read that right: F.O.X.
just saw a pig flying
.
I just got home from having breakfast with friends… I missed the presser. Sounds like I didn’t miss anything that wasn’t expected.
On another note… yesterday we received our shipment of Easter chocolates from OldSeaHag… we started digging in last night…. YUM!
You can read or download redacted copy here: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html
Cable news is trying to create a searchable version for those without ink and paper to download and print.
Hey patd do you think Chris Wallace thought that was a bad thing. It’s what fatassthegolfing president wants
So Bill Barr is just another big fat liar for SFB
I told you that barr was a bad actor when perp #1 nominated him to be the AG.
LOCK ‘EM ALL UP !
I presume that the month that barr held up the release, was filled with focus groups, marketing analysis, and possible forgery.
It’s time to get Mr Mueller to ID the text and fill in the blanks.
I don’t like the way Rep Nadler has handled this business. I’m very disappointed in his soft approach.
Barr…
I am told he had a decent reputation at some point in the not too distant past. No longer. C’est la vie.
renee, too bad you missed it. here’s a replay of the barr presser by Alexandra petri:
*Attorney General William P. Barr steps to the lectern.*
Hello, everyone. I am here to repeat the words “no collusion” as many times as I can without sounding suspicious, but first, I would like to thank Rod Rosenstein. He is here standing behind me. He had plans to step back from public service before I came along and asked him to assist me. Then again, some would argue that by assisting me, he did not perform a public service. Anyway, he is here.
I would also like to thank Robert Mueller for making this report for me to redact. I feel like it is a joint creation between the two of us. He is not standing here with me today. Instead, there is a bearded man who, no doubt, is familiar to you all. I will certainly not introduce him at any point. I will leave his identity to your imagination! Worst-case scenario, this will just accustom you to seeing strange facts without context, something that will help you as you consume the report!
The good news is that, although the Russian government did interfere in the 2016 election with hacking and disinformation campaigns, it did not do so literally at the behest of the Trump campaign, in my opinion. Was that the opinion of the Mueller team? Who can say? But if it wasn’t, it should have been, I think. Make no mistake, Russia did interfere to help him, but this effort was just sort of a fun lagniappe. Nobody asked for it.
Really, it was like when you are just sitting on a couch trying to have a nice time and your cat unexpectedly brings you a dead bird. (In this scenario, the dead bird is the American people.) You did not expect it! You don’t even want it. But the cat seemed to think it was a nice gesture. Well, that is how Donald Trump feels about winning this election. In brief, this was not at all coordinated. Anyway, as I think anyone who has been watching the Trump presidency can see, this is not a man who expected to win.
Some more words about the president’s feelings: Speaking as the attorney general of the United States, whose function is to defend the law of the land and not the person of the president, I would like for just a minute to defend the person of the president. You see, he has a lot of feelings and is facing an unprecedented situation. His pain is real, and we should respect it. He has been very frustrated and angry, and, I think, sincerely so. As I have learned from my years in close communion with the law, being very frustrated is a great legal defense against wrongdoing.
Between you and me, he is so lonely. I wish I could convey to you the unspeakable loneliness of his position. The president is not a well man. His doctor, a real doctor, has said we are to keep him from shocks — shocks such as seeing his name in the same sentence as the word “collusion” unaccompanied by the word “no,” or really any sudden experience of extreme feeling. This is why we must not let him stare too long at art that is particularly moving, lest its beauty knock something loose in him and destroy his system entirely. So I ask: If we, if any of us, can just do our part to spare him from hearing the awful word “collusion” that distresses him so much, is there any price we would not pay? Is there any sacrifice we would not make?
I will now take questions.
Q: Where is Mueller?
A: My friend with the beard is here!
Q: What do you say to people who say that you are going out of your way to defend the presidented, talking about how he faces ‘an unprecedented situation’?
A: I would say, is there another precedent for it?
Q: . . . No.
A: Boom! QED! *runs a victory lap around the room, high-fiving anyone who will accept it, but no one will*
Q: Where’s Mueller? Isn’t this Mueller’s report?
A: NO! IT IS MY REPORT, MINE! HE DID IT FOR ME! I AM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL! No more questions, goodbye.
patd… alriiiiight…. thanks for that…. now I know all about the presser… 🙂
They’re going to “shoot the moon”.
Give em enough rope.
Do not be stampeded into a futile gesture of
” impeachment”
Impeachment would only serve their purpose. The GOP would not convict and then they’d have a cudgel with which to fundraise etc.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Go Nadler.
ahem
Nancy is going to make History on this one.
wapo:
A detailed report from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III said investigators struggled with both the legal implications of investigating President Trump for possible obstruction of justice and the motives behind a range of his most alarming actions, from seeking the ouster of officials to ordering a memo that would clear his name.
“The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment,” the report stated. “At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
[continues]
changing the order of the last 2 sentences for the sake of clarity –
Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment…
… that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice
– sounds like they really really think he did.
Bloomberg also quotes the report on this:
Mueller said he lacked confidence to clear Trump of obstruction of justice but added that Congress had the authority to act. “We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a president’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,” the report states.
“Our investigation found multiple acts by the president that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russia-interference and obstruction investigations,” according to the report. “The president engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.”
Mr Sturgeone, I just thought that Nadler should have ordered witness barr to answer the questions, closing the escape routes figuratively and literally.
I mean, the hearing was to find facts, not to give barr practice in declining questions.
Yep you right on that x
While the turmoil and idiocy continues in D.C. I just watched the launch and succesfull return of the boosters and center engine of Falcon heavy launch of Arabsat 6A communications satellite from Kennedy Space Center. Stunning to watch those rockets return and land. This is so amazing to me. But, it is going to be one of those expected results of space travel from now on. Many forget that space is a crap shoot. We may have a good feeling of one of the dice, but we never have full control over both.
x-r
how’s the campaign going
Ms Cracker,
I can confidently say that if I am nominated for president by a major party, I shall run.
Right now I am leading the pack among the totally unknown candidates, and am creeping silently forward. I don’t want to spook the big game.
sounds like a plan to me
I think there should be a national demonstration to show people do not believe Barr ot Trump and especially not Slanders Suckabee
Don’t expect SFB’s supporters to peel away or even Republican elected officials –
The Kochs and the Mercers are probably sponsoring a Meet-UP on how to defend SFB
Well, Congress now faces the age-old question, “ What the FUCK do we do now?”
Ms. Bronc, I so appreciate your viewpoint from the inside. Thank you. And that dice example. Fucking A.
I told ya so is not a rallying cry
Ok, WTF is this? TDS is rerunning their 3/27/19 episode … on the fucking night of the release of the Mueller/Barr report. WHO. Is the producer of this show??? Honest to God … ?
There are still 12 investigations, some of them criminal, and criminal trials coming up.
It ain’t over until the fat boy squeals.
I told ya so is not a rallying cry – Ms Cracker
How about, LOCK ‘EM UP ! LOCK ‘EM ALLLL UP !
It has a kinda familiar ring to it that rippers might be able to relate to.
Seriously, the rallying cry is, russia attacked America with republican help ;
trump TREASON !
This ought to be spread by MeToo, Black Lives Matter, the environmental movements, the lgbtqi movements, the besieged religious minorities, ‘conservative’ Dems, ‘mainstream’ Dems, ‘progressive’ Dems, Jobs Dems, libertarian Dems, yaller dawg Dems, Poor People Dems, Silicon Dems or Wall Street Dems. We can wrassle about the direction of the nation after we get the russians and their 5th columnist army out of our way. But as long as putin’s marching marons have any power or credibility, they’ll make trouble for the US and prevent healing and cures.