Looks to me like Bernie, Warren, Biden, Buttigieg, in that order in the first cut based only on the eye test. Stupid process.Â
Pogo, I’m stunned how many precincts where Biden isn’t viable (at least 15%). Agree, just a stupid eyeball count on the teevee.Â
Depends on where the news coverage is. If in Aimes – Sanders wins. If in Pella – Biden wins.Â
I’m guessing Bernie, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden in that order. Horrible night for Biden in the making.Â
Hi dvitale
Dv3 – back or just testing the waters?
I’m back. Been following but swamped at work. Hi back to ya’ll
Please can this PLEASE be the last year for Iowa’s ridiculous role in our presidential elections. Enough with your stupid carnival. Like herding drunk cats across a parking lot.
Someone’s going to have to explain the wisdom of a 90% white 80% identified Christian state going first and representing America.Â
Good for Mike Bloomberg ignoring Iowa, a Trump state Democrats will lose in November and shouldn’t be spending all this time and money. Why not start in a critical battleground state like Wisconsin that doesn’t run a bizarre voting process only the Three Stooges could understand.Â
It’s easy to explain dvitale. So long as any president gets elected after competing and usually winning in Iowa and New Hampshire, then depending on them for reelection, Iowa and New Hampshire keep their ridiculous monopoly. No accident they enjoy the nation’s highest federal spending per capita.
I might favor Bloomberg simply because he’s trying to blow up this calendar.Â
Iowa can’t count the votes. Their newspaper canceled its poll. How much longer must we let these idiots kick off our presidential campaigns?
OK Iowa has now taken long enough to release results we can cue up the conspiracy theories.Â
Iowa has screwed up enough to conclude it doesn’t even matter anymore. On to New Hampshire.
Is voting too complicated for these silly people? Â Photos of these events look like a cross between field day and poker night.
Van Jones got it right. Iowa failed to reach viability. Fuck Iowa.Â
…takes me 5-10 minutes to vote in my precinct
This is a debacle. Iowa must be denied any future role in the early nominating process.
Poobah, hoorah.Â
Quality checks my ass. Â Voting is nothing, NOTHING, more than fucking arithmetic. Â The Iowa state Democratic Party JUST CANT COUNT. God, deliver us from this idiocy. Â
Now is time for a smart candidate to get on TV, declare victory and get on a plane to New Hampshire. You can always say your precinct captains reported winning numbers.Â
I hear Florida election board is pissed, Iowa is stealing some of their best fuckup ideas.Â
Jack
Hmm, a good campaign would have the unofficial numbers. But a rooky one might not have them. If the good campaigns are loosing………
 Mayor Pete for the win?
Jack
Des Moines Register almost past deadline for publishing results in paper.Â
lol, jack
Poobah, the DMR is emblematic of the Iowa incompetence. It couldn’t get its poll out, now can’t print results.  What a shit show.
Klobuchar first on TV: “We are punching above our weight.” Heading for New Hampshire. Very smart.
Klobuchar smartly uses this opportunity to give her stump speech and get coverage.
And she’s giving a really good speech.  Good on Amy.Â
…she had better bulk up quick then
Almost a “comeback kid” moment when Clinton declared victory after losing NH. Very impressed Amy did this. Biden now playing catch up.Â
Good chance Sanders deliberately screwed tonight by Democratic Party. Maybe he should have become one.
OK Iowa Democratic Party now I get it, fell on your sword instead of timely reporting a Sanders victory. Well played.
Notice this letter demands answers before any results announced. Brilliant! Sanders totally screwed.Â
…no results, yet? Â really?
These after-parties must be awkward
Bink
Ya gotta know somebody,
The campaigns all know, a close estimate anyway. Probably the major networks as well.
Jack
So to recap, Des Moines Register spiked its poll and Iowa Democratic Party spiked its caucuses. All that fried butter for nothing.
…bunch of young volunteers that just wanna get laid right now
Iowa Democrats hung up on campaigns after call gets heated
The Iowa Democrats hosted a conference call with the campaigns within the last hour.
Sources confirm the Iowa Dems hung up on the campaigns as campaigns pressed for more information about the issues with reporting and when they would receive more data/results. Sources say the call got very heated.
Van Jones on CNN: “Biden got an undeserved lifeline tonight because an anvil was about to drop on his head and he got a chance to scoot away like Wile E. Coyote.”Â
If you say that about Biden you have to say it about Warren too.
It is starting to sound like the winner tonight is Mayor Pete and Bernie may be in that strange Iowa phenom where you win but you lose.
Jack
Good night Iowa. We don’t care anymore.
Dear Iowa,
We know this is a very difficult process, this newfangled voting thing. We know, you have your corn, you have your combines, you have your fictitious character from Ottumwa – Radar O’Reilly.
We know how difficult this is, but perhaps you should consider that other states don’t have these problems. Perhaps you should consider the fact that other states have things like voting machines, and voting apps, and even opscan voting forms. Perhaps you should talk to some of them and figure out whether it might be possible, just possible, that Iowa could employ some of these methods to record votes.
We know this is a very difficult process. We know that there are always questions about the accuracy of vote totals, particularly when the results that are seen early on in the process may not exactly be what the party mechanism wishes, but really, get a fucking clue. Do something other than the stupid fucking raise your hand crap that you’re doing now, then citing inconsistencies in the results. What the hell does that mean anyway?
Tonight’s results are completely unacceptable.  In a day when it’s fairly well recognized that 1 plus 1 = 2, 2 plus 2 =4, and 3 plus 3 = 6, it is really not that hard to do arithmetic.
Apparently documenting the counting of votes based on asses in seats is just beyond your ability. Please consider not being the first “primary“ in the nation. You are fucking it up, badly.
Biden crowds look thin.
Looks to me like Bernie, Warren, Biden, Buttigieg, in that order in the first cut based only on the eye test. Stupid process.Â
Pogo, I’m stunned how many precincts where Biden isn’t viable (at least 15%). Agree, just a stupid eyeball count on the teevee.Â
Depends on where the news coverage is. If in Aimes – Sanders wins. If in Pella – Biden wins.Â
I’m guessing Bernie, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden in that order. Horrible night for Biden in the making.Â
Hi dvitale
Dv3 – back or just testing the waters?
I’m back. Been following but swamped at work. Hi back to ya’ll
Please can this PLEASE be the last year for Iowa’s ridiculous role in our presidential elections. Enough with your stupid carnival. Like herding drunk cats across a parking lot.
Someone’s going to have to explain the wisdom of a 90% white 80% identified Christian state going first and representing America.Â
Good for Mike Bloomberg ignoring Iowa, a Trump state Democrats will lose in November and shouldn’t be spending all this time and money. Why not start in a critical battleground state like Wisconsin that doesn’t run a bizarre voting process only the Three Stooges could understand.Â
It’s easy to explain dvitale. So long as any president gets elected after competing and usually winning in Iowa and New Hampshire, then depending on them for reelection, Iowa and New Hampshire keep their ridiculous monopoly. No accident they enjoy the nation’s highest federal spending per capita.
I might favor Bloomberg simply because he’s trying to blow up this calendar.Â
Iowa can’t count the votes. Their newspaper canceled its poll. How much longer must we let these idiots kick off our presidential campaigns?
OK Iowa has now taken long enough to release results we can cue up the conspiracy theories.Â
Iowa has screwed up enough to conclude it doesn’t even matter anymore. On to New Hampshire.
Is voting too complicated for these silly people? Â Photos of these events look like a cross between field day and poker night.
Van Jones got it right. Iowa failed to reach viability. Fuck Iowa.Â
…takes me 5-10 minutes to vote in my precinct
This is a debacle. Iowa must be denied any future role in the early nominating process.
Poobah, hoorah.Â
Quality checks my ass. Â Voting is nothing, NOTHING, more than fucking arithmetic. Â The Iowa state Democratic Party JUST CANT COUNT. God, deliver us from this idiocy. Â
Now is time for a smart candidate to get on TV, declare victory and get on a plane to New Hampshire. You can always say your precinct captains reported winning numbers.Â
I hear Florida election board is pissed, Iowa is stealing some of their best fuckup ideas.Â
Jack
Hmm, a good campaign would have the unofficial numbers. But a rooky one might not have them. If the good campaigns are loosing………
 Mayor Pete for the win?
Jack
Des Moines Register almost past deadline for publishing results in paper.Â
lol, jack
Poobah, the DMR is emblematic of the Iowa incompetence. It couldn’t get its poll out, now can’t print results.  What a shit show.
Klobuchar first on TV: “We are punching above our weight.” Heading for New Hampshire. Very smart.
Klobuchar smartly uses this opportunity to give her stump speech and get coverage.
And she’s giving a really good speech.  Good on Amy.Â
…she had better bulk up quick then
Almost a “comeback kid” moment when Clinton declared victory after losing NH. Very impressed Amy did this. Biden now playing catch up.Â
Good chance Sanders deliberately screwed tonight by Democratic Party. Maybe he should have become one.
OK Iowa Democratic Party now I get it, fell on your sword instead of timely reporting a Sanders victory. Well played.
Notice this letter demands answers before any results announced. Brilliant! Sanders totally screwed.Â
…no results, yet? Â really?
These after-parties must be awkward
Bink
Ya gotta know somebody,
The campaigns all know, a close estimate anyway. Probably the major networks as well.
Jack
So to recap, Des Moines Register spiked its poll and Iowa Democratic Party spiked its caucuses. All that fried butter for nothing.
…bunch of young volunteers that just wanna get laid right now
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/ncna1128596
Maura Barrett
21m ago / 12:25 AM EST
Iowa Democrats hung up on campaigns after call gets heated
The Iowa Democrats hosted a conference call with the campaigns within the last hour.
Sources confirm the Iowa Dems hung up on the campaigns as campaigns pressed for more information about the issues with reporting and when they would receive more data/results. Sources say the call got very heated.
Van Jones on CNN: “Biden got an undeserved lifeline tonight because an anvil was about to drop on his head and he got a chance to scoot away like Wile E. Coyote.”Â
If you say that about Biden you have to say it about Warren too.
It is starting to sound like the winner tonight is Mayor Pete and Bernie may be in that strange Iowa phenom where you win but you lose.
Jack
Good night Iowa. We don’t care anymore.
Dear Iowa,
We know this is a very difficult process, this newfangled voting thing. We know, you have your corn, you have your combines, you have your fictitious character from Ottumwa – Radar O’Reilly.
We know how difficult this is, but perhaps you should consider that other states don’t have these problems. Perhaps you should consider the fact that other states have things like voting machines, and voting apps, and even opscan voting forms. Perhaps you should talk to some of them and figure out whether it might be possible, just possible, that Iowa could employ some of these methods to record votes.
We know this is a very difficult process. We know that there are always questions about the accuracy of vote totals, particularly when the results that are seen early on in the process may not exactly be what the party mechanism wishes, but really, get a fucking clue. Do something other than the stupid fucking raise your hand crap that you’re doing now, then citing inconsistencies in the results. What the hell does that mean anyway?
Tonight’s results are completely unacceptable.  In a day when it’s fairly well recognized that 1 plus 1 = 2, 2 plus 2 =4, and 3 plus 3 = 6, it is really not that hard to do arithmetic.
Apparently documenting the counting of votes based on asses in seats is just beyond your ability. Please consider not being the first “primary“ in the nation. You are fucking it up, badly.
Yours very truly,
Any candidate.
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