Veep Stakes Update

Washington Post ranks Democratic running mate possibilities. No. 10 still my favorite.

10. Michelle Lujan Grisham: The New Mexico governor won’t be a familiar name to many who follow national politics, nor is her state a battleground. But she’s among the relatively few Hispanic women who currently serve in high office in the United States. A former House member and chairwoman of the congressional Hispanic caucus, she comes from a famous political family in New Mexico that includes a former Cabinet official on the George H.W. Bush administration and a former chief justice of the state Supreme Court.”

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Author: craigcrawford

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76 thoughts on “Veep Stakes Update”

  1. about the above video from daily beast:

    Tooning Out the News, a delightfully weird and hilarious new animated series that counts Stephen Colbert as one of its producers, was originally supposed to premiere on March 16. Then the coronavirus crisis hit. Like so many others, the show was forced to halt production and delay its premiere. And yet the version that started airing this week on CBS All Access feels somehow perfect for these times.
    The premise is simple enough. Fictional cartoon news anchors interview real-life figures. Congressman Adam Schiff (D-CA) and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman are among those who have appeared in the first handful of episodes. It’s how they’ve managed to pull it off during a pandemic—and how consistently funny it has been—that is truly remarkable.

  2. I like them all. Amy is my sentimental fave. Liz knows what to do and can bring Mr Nash along ! Stacy is stirring oratory and tough-minded idealism, a rare combination. Grisham has some exec experience and brings Hispanics in droves & maybe Texas, too. Duckworth brings Asians and Afghan/Iraqi War vets. Whitmer is Midwestern and trump is scared shitless of her. Val Demings, like Stacy, can bring black voters to the polls, but Val could flip Florida. 
    Prediction : Harris will get it the offer. She’ll accept. She’ll be great. 

  3. I would LOVE it if Joe would pick Elizabeth Warren!!!I believe Craig said Harris didn’t poll well with AA women. Right?  I’d be OK with Harris or  Klobuchar.  
    If we need to leave sitting senators sit, then it makes sense to go with a governor.  However, as my best friend in Texas told me (she is Hispanic), we do not get along with African Americans because of competition for jobs.  Maybe that anger doesn’t exist outside of TX. IDK.  Joe would have to speak to mend that rift if he  picks Lujan, if it is a sticking point elsewhere.
    Jobs are going to be a big topic, because even when we open up fully, some of those businesses/jobs will be gone.   Some businesses will continue to suffer as folks are a little more careful with their money.    Also, there will be cuts in pay for those who have kept their jobs or who will be called back after the Coronavirus shut-downs are over.
    Biden-Warren   You could create a great, acrostic on a campaign sign with those names.
     
    I’m going back to bed.   It seems 4:30am is a great time to sign up for unemployment; I hope I read the questions correctly, coming out of a dead sleep.   Supposedly, I will be called back to work in the next 6 weeks or so.   The stimulus package did nothing to help my employer. Zero. Got that message two days ago, thus, my current status. I have been so bored that I never want to retire now.  What in the heck would I do all day?  Two weeks of vacation have been completely wasted.  Accomplished zilch and had no fun.  I’ve had a job since I was 13. It’s what I know best.
    Oh,  SNL is doing a LIVE from quarantine tonight!    Not sure how that would work, aside from a long WU segment, with guest characters zooming in, but I’m looking forward to it.
     

  4. While senators Harris, Warren, Klobuchar etc appealing, makes me nervous to remove them when we so desperately need to win the Senate. Just don’t think any senator should be on the table, perhaps no House members either. 

  5. I like Stacey Abrams, what little I have seen of her.  Just saw a great movie trailer from Python, Terry Gilliam, streaming everywhere.  “The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.” 

  6. XR, I concur with your prediction. Kamala is a no loss pick and is a great complement to Joe. I can just imagine the VP debate between her and the whitest man in the world. Poobah, if Joe chose Harris wouldn’t Gavin Newsom appoint her interim replacement and California vote For the next person to fill her seat? Sounds like a low risk pick.

  7. here’s that tom friedman NYT piece wherein he picks folk for  joe’s “National Unity Cabinet”:

    For vice president, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, former Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala or Gov. Gina Raimondo of Rhode Island; for Treasury secretary, Mike Bloomberg; health and human services secretary, Bill Gates; secretary of oversight for the trillions of dollars in emergency coronavirus spending, to make sure it’s done fairly and productively, Elizabeth Warren.
    Attorney general, Merrick Garland; homeland security secretary, Andrew Cuomo; secretary of state, Mitt Romney; defense secretary, Michèle Flournoy; labor secretary, Ro Khanna (who co-chaired Sanders’s campaign).
    Secretary of national infrastructure rebuild, a new cabinet post, Walmart C.E.O. Doug McMillon; commerce secretary, former American Express C.E.O. Ken Chenault; O.M.B. director, Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio; education secretary, Laurene Powell Jobs; U.N. ambassador, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
    HUD secretary, Ford Foundation chief Darren Walker; Interior secretary, Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico; energy secretary, Andy Karsner (a green Republican who led renewable energy for George W. Bush); E.P.A. administrator, Al Gore.

  8. even though it’s being shallow, superficial and not politically correct, please consider the optics.  pogo is right on about that picture of the abrams pence debate.  Stacey and Lizzie (and only 1 or 2 others being considered) are nearly equivalent in height to pence. physicality makes a statement too – in other words, what’s the subliminal message that comes across if pence’s debate opponent is of small stature?  

  9. Well, this should be a step in the right direction for Joe to bring Bernie supporters along. 

    A day after becoming the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, former vice president Joe Biden sought to appeal to liberal supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders on Thursday with a pair of new proposals to expand access to health care and curtail student loan debt.

    Biden proposed lowering the eligibility age for Medicare coverage from 65 to 60. He also came out in favor of forgiving student loan debt for people who attended public colleges and universities and some private schools and make up to $125,000 a year.

    The announcements came after private conversations between Biden’s team and aides to Sanders (I-Vt.), who announced Wednesday that he was suspending his campaign. While they do not put Biden in line with Sanders on two pillars of the democratic socialist’s sweeping agenda, they represent concessions that bring the two sides closer together.

    Let’s see how this is received  
     

  10. We might need to lower Medicare age from 65 to 60, as many will lose jobs and health insurance because of the pandemic.   There will be a lot more part-time jobs out there than jobs with benefits.

  11. RCP tRump-Biden poll results for polls ending this week show Biden ahead by 6, 8, 5, 11 & 4 points, and wait for it, one outlier from Faux, a tie. (Faux’s last 2 prior polls had Joe up by 8 & 9). Hmmmm, this is perplexing. The good news is that Joe’s average remains at +5.9 over SFB. And this is with people complaining that Joe doesn’t have a strong media presence right now. 

  12. Biden – Out of sight, out of mind.   Trump – On TV lying every day and out of his freaking mind.

  13. Harris is impressive but she flatlined with primary voters, including blacks. Still don’t understand why but something wrong there. Just don’t see how she adds to the math, and her state a done deal without her.

  14. Nash…  I voted for Klobuchar in the NH primary.  I now whole heartedly endorse Biden.  Methinks bad mouthing him now that he’s the nominee is acting like a republican and helping trump.
     
    Of course if Biden picked Amy for his VP, I’d be thrilled…  but I think that Craig’s assertion not to take Senators out of the Senate is a good one.  I anxiously await Joe’s choice!

  15.  “Methinks bad mouthing him now that he’s the nominee is acting like a republican and helping trump.“
    Hear, Hear.

  16. I have only one suggestion for the food topic. Conecuh Sausage
    It’s N’awlins, y’all.

  17. pogo, some of those biden progressive announcements might be more from Lizzie’s playbook rather than Bernie’s.

     

    craig, kamala has the same problem as Hillary had.  she comes across less personable than what she really is.  both are witty compassionate women but seem to project to or be seen by some folk as too calculating and condescending. 

  18. the hill:

    In an interview with Fauci, anchor Alisyn Camerota noted that “SNL” would be returning to NBC’s airwaves this weekend after a hiatus due to the coronavirus pandemic. 
    “What do you think the chances are that somebody will portray you?” Camerota asked.
    “I have no idea. I hope not,” Fauci replied with a laugh.
    Camerota quickly suggested a few performer’s names, including Ben Stiller and 56-year-old Pitt. 
    “Oh Brad Pitt,” Fauci, 79, said with a wide grin. “Of course.”

  19. I say let Joe make his choice independent of our counsel; let him find someone with whom he will be personally comfortable and intellectually compatible. A person who shares his vision for America going forward and  the role of the Vice in supporting the Biden administration.

  20. trail friend jack pictures Lizzie as schoolmarm-ish.  if one accepts that characterization and using that train of thought comparatively speaking, Kamala and Hillary are like the nuns who ruler rap  knuckles of misbehaving children.  

  21. flatus, in normal times I would agree with you, but our present condition requires someone who can be seen as an insta-president.  someone as most electable when joe decides not to run for a 2nd term.

  22. Flatus, I doubt Joe is considering anything we say. 🙂 
     
    Patd, yes, I’d say Joe’s 2 policy position proposals are more Lizzie like than Bernie like, but they are more progressive than Joe’s original positions and that should appeal to Bernie and Lizzie voters.

    And sturg, I’ll have to see about that sausage. Because I’m a lapsed Emeril fan, all I know of NO sausage is Andouille sausage. I’m always up for a new sausage run.

  23. Pat, I should have articulated competence to fulfill constitutional requirements of the office. I think back to Harry Truman who, despite being isolated from the workings of the Roosevelt Administration, was able to step forward, kick ass AND be reelected. I still remember the shocked murmurs, “The President is dead…”

  24. An ambulance took someone away (not in my building) and they did not use sirens coming or going.   They always, of course, send a fire truck, too.   There was definitely someone in the ambulance, as one door was open.  I was wearing a mask, but immediately changed course.  I hope they will be OK, whatever the problem. 
    My SNL prediction:  Kate McKinnon will play Dr. Fauci and will do do brilliantly.
    Tiptoe – Batten down the hatches.  We’re on weather-watch this Easter weekend.  Just what we need.

  25. Harris actually addressed that on The View the other day, trying to downplay it as part of the processes.  Then the Dallas Mayor broke in to announce the closure of parks on what was already forecast to be a rainy/stormy weekend.   The egg hunts and BBQs will happen Monday, when the weather is better.

  26. Bink
    What Harris did was so eye rolling normal politics that Biden can’t possibly be offended. He has probably had it happen to him every election.
    Jack

  27. Pat
    Harris and HRC are a bit like my grandmother on my mothers side. Loving but  “wash your hands” strict.
    And thinking about that makes  me wonder about  my grandmother on my fathers side. I realize, she was Donald Trump. Absolutely, manipulative, self centered and cruel at time to those over which she had power. Yet so pleasant to those above her that she was well like in the community.  A lot of people told me that if I had known her before she became senile…….  But according to my dad, she was always like that. Makes me somewhat sympathetic to Trumps wife and kids. Not tolerant just sympathetic. 
    Jack

  28. wonder how (or IF actually) Lizzie avoided contracting covid19 given all those thousands of up close and personal, barehanded huggy selfies she took while COVID was covertly amongst us.   wouldn’t surprise me if an antibody test shows she did get it and showed little if any symptoms other than that cough for a while there.  perhaps sensing a close call of a light infection may have been what inspired her recent plan that Obama touted the other day (and BTW that was the 2nd time recently that Obama has publicly praised lizzie – veeping hint?).

  29. politico:

    Former President Barack Obama on Monday offered high praise for Sen. Elizabeth Warren, endorsing the former presidential candidate’s extensive framework for how to jump-start the economy once the coronavirus pandemic recedes.
    “As she often does, @SenWarren provides a cogent summary of how federal policymakers should be thinking about the pandemic in the coming months,” Obama wrote in a tweet, linking to a Vox interview in which the Massachusetts Democrat discussed her multiple plans to address the global pandemic and its economic fallout.

  30. A wonder of Tech. or dystopian control?
    From Axios

    Apple and Google on Friday announced a joint effort to notify people via smartphone — on an opt-in basis — if they’ve come into contact with someone with the coronavirus, without having to share users’ location information with government authorities.
    Why it matters: Contract tracing is seen as a key means for allowing society to reopen from shelter-in-place orders, but there have been significant privacy concerns about requiring people to share their location and other personal data with the government.
    The big picture: Apple and Google have spent the last decade mostly driving wedges between their respective mobile operating systems but are launching this unprecedented collaboration as countries around the world eye technology solutions to track the spread of COVID-19. The companies aim to offer the maximum public health benefit without sacrificing individual privacy.
     

  31. Pat
    Lizzie has always worked better as an idea advocate than an implementer.  Her major accomplishments were when she was on the outside. It is one thing to have a plan, it is another to get them into law.
    Bernie on the other hand has a history of being the worst of both worlds, crazy plans and a total inability to get anything passed, except naming the occasional post office.
    Jack

  32. Patd…   the problem with Warren as VP is that the governor of Massachusetts is a republican.  He’s a moderate (it’s the only way a republican can win in Mass.)…  but he’s still a republican and would most likely name her replacement from republican ranks.

  33. Bernie on the other hand has a history of being the worst of both worlds, crazy plans and a total inability to get anything passed, except naming the occasional post office.
    Jack, how many different ways can he spell his name??

  34. Flatus, what affectionate pet name does one call a dachshund named Dame Faden Von Rotwurst?

  35. The discussion regarding Uncle Joe’s running mate is fun.  Dozens of competent women, competency ranging all over the place because almost all names are of solid backgrounds and temperament.  Craig bringing up the control of the Congress is important too.  I think the underlying assumption is that Biden is running for one term only, and possibly not completing that. 
     
    I completed my shopping for paper products, meats, dishwasher tabs, commercial sizes of things necessary to cook.  Everything except bread flour.  Costco appears to have better stock of everything right now, including paper towels.  Sam’s is still short of paper products and many food items, especially olives stuffed with pimento.  It looks like the hoarding of TP is lessening, probably because the hoarders have no place left to store it. 

  36. “It looks like the hoarding of TP is lessening, probably because the hoarders have no place left to store it.”

     or constipation due to lack of exercise, couch potato syndrome and poor choice of diet.

    TP no longer considered an essential item. prune juice next on the hoarders’ list

  37. Patd, my dad’s cure for what ails a constipated old man. Coffee, prune juice, et voila, victory at sea so to speak. 

  38. Oh BlueBronc… I went shopping this morning for mostly fresh veggies and fruit.  Looked up the tp aisle…. nothing.  Went to the small market near here on my way home… no tp there either.
     
    thank god we still have a couple weeks worth…

  39. I went grocery shopping.   Two carts apart and they have made the aisles one way   Pretty long wait to check out.   Still no tp and oddly no liquid Plumber.  A lot of people were wearing masks including me. A lot of people here have masks because of the smoke from wild fires.   Uncomfortable and my glasses fog up.

  40. I was the only one in a mask this afternoon.  Apparently, morning walkers are trying to avoid others & masking, whereas in the afternoon…   I was waiting for a woman who was walking behind her, two, small kids on their bikes to cross a narrow footbridge.   They were loitering, looking at turtles.   Behind me on the hill I heard a bicycle bell (they wanted to go down the shortcut path instead of going to the paved path 50 yards away).   I told them I was waiting for others to cross the bridge.  One of them, a  giant, blonde (apparently German woman) yelled at me in Schwarzenegger-ese, “Who are you, the fcking police”?  I said, “No, I’m the police of me and I’m doing what I’m supposed to do.”   The woman and her kids crossed the bridge and said, “thank you.”  She crossed, I crossed, the two women came down the hill but didn’t cross the bridge, so I stayed off the paved path and walk in the grass around the pond.   Eventually, they crossed, but sat in their bikes at the other side of the path by the street and glared at me.   I didn’t want to get near them because I wasn’t sure if they were just going to follow me and harass me, or, possibly spit on me.  I ignored them and kept walking around the pond and eventually, they left.   I was very careful where I went.  A black, SUV stopped and took my pic as I crossed the street.  Probably just because I was masked up and they were documenting our world, but possibly they called someone and described me.    I hope they get the virus and when they are laying face down with tubes in their throats and machines breathing for them, I hope they remember me waiting for others to pass, despite wearing a mask.   I hate Germans today.  Probably a distant cousin.  Go back to where you came  from you rotten kraut.  

  41. Repube DeSamtis (R) says no one young has died. So he’s talking about opening schools in May.  And what about TEACHERS and OTHER school employees;  custodians, administrators, psychologists, speech paths, cafeteria workers, paraprofessionals, etc????????? Then what? Who will staff the schools as the adults get sick????
     
    Repubes are SUCH ass holes!!!! They collectively have NO common sense!!!!

  42. KGC, yep! Can’t believe a thing the repubes say! I think that’s why the dictator’s daily babblings aren’t carried on all TV channels.

  43. Trump says deciding when to open up the country is the biggest decision he’s ever had to make.  Please, let Dr. Fauci make that decision.   You can say it if your ego needs credit for it, but please let the scientists (medical, not social) make the decision.   

  44. Here is my (slightly sarcastic, but not totally unrealistic) take on Biden’s options for VP …

    (1) Pick Elizabeth Warren.  The logical choice to appeal to progressives, but it won’t happen because Joe wouldn’t want anyone who would “upstage” him.  People would wonder, why isn’t SHE the presidential candidate, instead of HIM? After all, she has more brains, more charisma, and a whole bunch of progressive policy proposals that a majority of middle and lower class voters (even Republicans) want, according to all the surveys.

    (2) Pick a conservative/establishment Democrat so Joe can, by comparison, appear more “liberal” without actually proposing any liberal policies.  Maybe a black woman who made her bones as a prosecutor by putting lots of blacks in prison.   (Anyone come to mind?)

    (3) Pick a no-talent nonentity few have ever heard of.  I call this the “Dan Quayle” strategy.  A woman who will make Joe look brilliant and charismatic by comparison.   (Which ain’t easy.)

    (4) Pick a Republican woman.   Joe loves to talk about his long record of seeking “bipartisan” compromises in the Senate.  This move also coincides with the establishment Democrats’ mind-set that, in order to win they MUST get the votes of affluent white women who live in the suburbs and usually vote for Republicans.  This strategy never works, but the Dems never stop trying. 

    (5) Pick Anita Hill.  (OK, that one is just a joke.)

    (4) Pick a man.  You didn’t really think Biden would keep one of his promises, did you?  Predicting that he will pick a man is admittedly a long shot but not entirely out of character.    I really don’t think “groper” Joe is comfortable around women, unless he can run his hands all over them, which wouldn’t look good on the podium at the convention.  Of course if they do a “virtual” convention (on Zoom or something) there won’t be a problem with groping, as long as they keep the VP out of  Joe’s basement.  God knows what could happen down there.

    (6) As a continuation of the logic of option (5) “pick a man,” Joe could pick his son, the one who got $50,000 a month from that energy company in Ukraine.  Biden might as well do this because Trump is going to make it seem like his son is on the ticket, anyway. 

    *****   

    By the way, I will vote for Biden because, after all, what choice do I have? 
    As usual, thanks to the DNC, none at all.   
     

  45. Oh, stop with the “DNC” (i agree it’s a terrible entity).  They held elections, morons voted, and the majority of those morons picked Biden.  

    You’re sooo hip, never would have heard these Biden criticisms anywhere else, Thank sweet Jesus on this most sacred holiday weekend for inspiring you to do so! I’m so blessed!

  46. …and another thing: you act like YOU’RE doing US a favor by voting for Biden.  You’re doing yourself a fucking favor!  You want a fucking cookie?  Sweet Jesus, thank you for your sacrifice!

  47. Best (funniest) Covid-19 story of the day …
    Oregon is one of only two states (New Jersey is the other) that do no allow “self-service” gasoline pumping.  All service stations have only “full service” pumps.   It is against the law to try to pump your own gasoline.  (You can get arrested for that.)

    HOWEVER … because of Covid-19, Oregon is now (temporarily) allowing customers to pump their own gasoline.

    So (of course) the local newspapers have all published articles on “How to pump your own gasoline.”

    You may think this is a joke, but a few days ago one of my neighbors saw a person accidentally splash gasoline all over their car and their legs, because they pulled the nozzle out of their tank without letting go of the operating lever.  Luckily, the gas station attendants (having nothing else to do) ran over with a foam fire extinguisher and “whooshed” the problem away.

  48. Wow, I can’t believe folks don’t know how to pump gas.  I guess they’ve never driven out of state.  
    Nash – #3 was pretty funny & I totally get it.   This is a weird year and until we get to November (or next January), things seem pretty unsettled. 
    Bink – Talk like that is exactly what would make some folks stay at home.  

  49. if you use your precious democratic blessing to spite some random asshole on the internet, then you’ll get the government you deserve.

  50. nash, what’s (to be precise who’s) got into you?  channeling Gordo maybe?  reminds me of the old movie “the body snatchers”

    joe does NOT “grope” and even if he ever did he wouldn’t discriminate.  joe (and david brooks will back me up) hugs, pats, maybe sniffs hair, smiles warmly at any & everybody regardless of race, gender or creed… or party.   

  51. Several years ago while driving from CA to WA, I stopped in OR to get gas.  It was hilarious when I jumped out and started to go to the pump and immediately got a flashback to my teenage years.

    He not only pumped by gas, but cleaned my windshields and checked under the hood.  Why did we ever give up that level of service?  

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