Culturally we are a very rich nation, our diversity is our strength with each group borrowing from the other, then adding their own vision to the stew. For today’s Serendipity I have 3 different Native American composers each with a different vision.
First is Connor Chee composition Weaving from his collection of piano pieces called Scenes from Dinétah.
Chee is a Diné (Navajo) composer and pianist known for blending Western classical music with the rich cultural heritage of the Navajo people. His compositions often draw inspiration from traditional Navajo stories and beliefs, creating a powerful and evocative sound that speaks to both his heritage and his classical training.
The video features a weaver working with the piano accompanying her work. I put this one first for you Renee.
Second is R Carlos Nakai a Ute-Navajo flutist composer. This is probably my favorite for today
He began playing a traditional Native American cedar flute after an accident left him unable to play the trumpet. Largely self-taught, he released his first album Changes in 1983, and afterward signed a contract with Canyon Records, who produced more than thirty of his albums in subsequent years. His music features original compositions for the flute inspired by traditional Native American melodies.
Third is a concerto for bassoon and orchestra , Ghost of the White Deer by Jerod Impichchaachaaha’ Tate. , a member of the Chickasaw nation
classical composer and pianist.[1] His compositions are inspired by North American Indian history, culture and ethos.
He has had several commissioned works, which have been performed by major orchestras in Washington, DC; San Francisco, Detroit, and Minneapolis, among others. When the San Francisco Symphony Chorus performed and recorded his work Iholba’ in 2008, it was the first time the chorus had sung any work in Chickasaw or any American Indian language.[
Enjoy, Jack
thanks, Jack. very timely since tomorrow’s Indigenous Peoples Day (AKA columbus day) — maybe — depending on the POTUS du jour.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/events/2025/10/12/is-the-bmv-open-on-columbus-day-indigenous-peoples-day-whats-closed-for-federal-holiday/
meanwhile, here’s SNL cold open back atcha
Attorney General Pam Bondi (Amy Poehler) testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee (Mikey Day, James Austin Johnson, Andrew Dismukes, Ashley Padilla, Jeremy Culhane, Tommy Brennan).
Weekend Update anchors Colin Jost and Michael Che tackle the week’s biggest news, like the U.S. Treasury planning to release a silver dollar with Trump’s face on it.
Weekend Update anchors Colin Jost and Michael Che tackle the week’s biggest news, like an A.I. video app that allows users to make cameos of themselves.
Now i’m really getting some education — Native American composers. Very cool. Thanks Jack!
Hamas gets to keep all their weapons? Wasn’t that non-negotiable under Biden?
Thank you, Jack
Weaving, in particular, reminds me of the beautiful Dine’ rugs I saw all around Arizona in my childhood.
Went to Octoberfest at the VFW last night. Had a lot of fun even if I didn’t win the quilt in the auction.
Chris David 2925
Mr. Ivy has started his own collection.
https://toh-atin.com/weavings/pictorial-ye-i-ye-i-bi-chei-and-sandpainting-weavings#:~:text=The%20Yeibichai%20was%20a%20natural,the%20side%20and%20in%20motion.
Thanks, Jack.
from yesterday’s chat…
The polls are clear. GOP gets the blame.
…
MTG turns her fire on Trump — blasting tariffs, supply-chain chaos, and “crypto donors.”
Says the real focus should be the voters who “stood in the rain for 18 hours.”
Next step is for MTG and MAGA is to finally figure out he never gave a shit about them in the first place.
Worse even, he is using them.
Ivy
If you click on the weaving video in the description it gives contact info for ordering a rug from the weaver.
Edit: Never mind I clicked on the link and it doesn’t work.
Jack
Jack, thanks. Mr. Ivy still on the lookout for his collection. We had traveled to Durango and made purchases at the Toh-Atin gallery. It is like a museum and education center where you can buy stuff. Sadly, the owner passed suddenly the week after we were there.
https://toh-atin.com/
☕ Mr. President, Inflation Is Not Gone.
Coffee’s up, paychecks aren’t, and the spin doesn’t match the grocery bill.
We’re talking about the real-world version of “economic data” — the kind that comes with caffeine.
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We have a 37 Trillion debt and GOP insists on cutting taxes for the wealthy. We need some form of wealth tax not just income.
Elementary, my dear Watson. She’s now aligned with the usurper, Vance.
The game is afoot. Maga Mike is expendable.
Trouble is a’brewing in gooberland.
Lost blues singer?
Or AI music?
Try again
Remember the Night of the Long Knives. Dodo could turn his Storm Troopers on his Republican adversaries.
BTW
The “blues” clip I posted above is an AI creation of a group that call themselves Dumpster Groves, they have a number of AI generated “lost blues” videos. You tube is promoting them like crazy on my youtube feed.
The world is changing.
Enshitification in full force.
Jack
we’re toast
Not AI
we are like three months max from AI everywhere all the time in our face exclusively
You’re going to have to watch an AI to take a shit and an AI ad while you’re shitting and an AI when you’re done
A wild twist with AI generated music, Jack, is there’s a big advantage in using it with the videos I make — NO COPYRIGHT. I just write a prompt for the mood i want for a music bed and it generates one in the exact length of the video, and it sails right through the YouTube copyright magnetometer. It’s not the sort of music that would stand on its own, but works well for a subtle underscore.
We can give it a go if you’d like. Let’s write a description for a tune. Here’s my AI generator’s guide:
Jamie – For starters, tax stock buybacks at 20% because they refuse to pay workers a living wage.
It’s going to get worse now that essential workers have been kidnapped, disappeared or deported, or who are driven underground.
It’s not just food rotting in fields, etc., but those folks spent the money they made on food, housing, etc. They weren’t just workers paying into the tax system and not getting benefits, they were CONSUMERS.
Donald J. tRUMP is a complete idiot. He only understands how to steal for himself and give a taste to those who help line his pockets. He is in failing health and he still hadn’t figured out that he can’t take it with him.
And those monuments to himself with his name on them, and those he is having slapped together in DC on public property…Ozymandias, dumbass.
I asked my other AI, ChatGPT’s Sam, to write the prompt for my ByteDance AI music generator for a Trail Mix theme song since Sam is now so familiar with our conversations:
lol Ai to make Ai kill me now
I predict an AI inspired mass suicide event within the next year
by the way now you see how AI can use itself to make a robot army to destroy us- Craig’s using AI to make AI, eventually it won’t need Craig, and by eventually I mean very soon
imagine struggling your whole life to develop a talent base like music creation now every asshole with a phone can make a better song than you, instantly
now imagine that same lifelong struggle for something less fulfilling you learned just to survive and now any asshole with a phone can do that too
Worst timeline ever
Craig
That is where I see AI going, much like early 20 cent movies that stole open source music from classical composers. My whole musical education comes from cartoons.
The clip I posted above may have been AI generated but there was a lot of human content involved, even if it was only intense editing. Your AI characters are as good an animation as many animated shows I watched as a kid. So children’s TV is going to get very cheap and if that is how you make your living then you need to retrain and catch up.
But I suspect it will still take a creative person in the mix to create quality videos. It is a tool not a master. And the world certainly isn’t going the way of a bad sci-fi novel/movie.
Jack
your suspicions ain’t worth shit Jack just talking out your ass as usual
i’d love to fault you guys for using these tools, but resistance is futile. We needed regulation of it 10 years ago, but your elected officials are fucking vainglorious morons
and don’t give me some facile analogy like a hammer is a tool yeah you don’t give a child a hammer
Anon
That is the world we have lived in for the longest time. My neighbor came back from Vietnam and got a great job as a type setter, thought he was set for life. Ten years later he was out of a job. Then spent the next 30 years as a school janitor.
Mrs Jack was a graffic design artist when cut and paste meant an exacto and a paste pot early in her career she had to retrain and learn how to create art with a computer. It didn’t stop as she went from Corel to Adobe Illustrator to InDesign. Half her job was learning new stuff.
Jack
Great job now extrapolate it to every industry
millions of people are about to lose their jobs and for each individual company letting them go will make financial sense but in the aggregate will collapse the global economy unless you guys use it to figure out to prevent that immediately, thanks in advance.
Ha, and that explains a lot.
But then I grew up on a farm, tools were handy and , well, I wanted to be just like dad.
The basic thing , Anon, it isn’t going away and “woe is me” isn’t a solution.
Jack
Denying objective reality isn’t a virtue
and yeah, we heard you grew up on a farm and yes, I realize the implication is that you have a deeper understanding of life, the world and everything because you grew up on a farm
condescending holy geez
good thing our society is flooded with guns once everybody loses their minds imminently
The people implementing these AI systems, your Musks and Altmans and NVIDIA CEOs will readily concede that they don’t even understand the potential consequences so don’t tell me there’s none
Anon , keep whacking on that strawman.
I’m out of here.
Jack
here I’ll distill it for you. The ultimate issue is concentrated wealth and it’s already extremely concentrated so that might mean five three two or one person or maybe the AI
We were warned
see you people are sweet. You’re like, “Hooray I can make cute videos, now”
Scammers (and crooks of all manner in capacities official and not) are like “oh shit, AI-powered scamming…”
while the foxes run the henhouse
terrifying
have you heard a single person in the public sphere discuss protecting our securities exchanges from AI manipulation or infiltration besides me now
Nothing to see here and move along fun videos yay
Here it is…Trail Mix, the Next Generation — all AI generated, no humans involved:
The people who understand it most are competing to develop the best version of it not to prevent the worst consequences of it
Craig, I saw a no-humans ad last night. Thousands of actors are about to lose their houses.
And then all the writers
And then all the editors
and that’s just one industry
while I waste my time on here insulting old people, some genius teenager is training himself on AI to do who knows what not even he knows yet
this guy is telling me not to be afraid
anon, you are one of those “you guys” in that accusation you know.
Attribution: A.I. Control Over Our Lives by Peter Kuper, PoliticalCartoons.com
[Peter Kuper is a regular contributor to The New Yorker, The Nation and MAD magazine where he has written and illustrated SPY vs. SPY every issue since 1997. He is the co-founder and editor of World War 3 Illustrated a political graphics magazine that has given a forum to political artists for 40 years. He has produced over two dozen books including The System, Diario de Oaxaca, Ruins (winner of the 2016 Eisner Award) and adaptations of many of Franz Kafka’s works into comics including The Metamorphosisand Kafkaesque (winner of the 2018 Reuben Award) . His latest graphic novel is an adaptation of Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness.
He has lectured around the world and has taught comics courses at The School of Visual Arts in NYC and Harvard University.]
Attribution: Nervous About Being Tracked By A.I. by Peter Kuper, PoliticalCartoons.com
just because Cassandra had a complex didn’t mean she was wrong
we are deporting human beings we are going to need to fight the robots
WHO’S WINNING THE SHUTDOWN? 🏛️
The first federal firings are here, and the pressure’s on. We break down who’s blinking first, the five Democrats to watch — and what it means for 2026.
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I hear ya Anon, but I remember back in the day when folks said this thing called the World Wide Web was going to be the end of civilization. Don’t think we’d go back.
funny cuz that’s the delineation of when it all started, well done 🫡
in my defense all the post/apocalyptic sci-fi Jamie and i came up on was made into more easily accessible movies
we were warned
*The energy gluttony of AI, the negative impact on the environment and human health, as well as the loss of social structures will be disastrous. If managed thoughtfully, and limited in use, it could be beneficial, but humans being human, and capitalism being a never-ending hunger to consume everything, it won’t be.
Here is what AI was created for: Control. The surveillance state is here. DOGE data scrapers to feed into AI systems to be predictive of behavior. It’s worse than you can imagine, but watch The Minority Report and substitute the twins for AI.
There will be societal collapse on a massive scale. There is the possibility that it will be so catastrophic, and/or we won’t be able to handle natural disasters, that we do a hard reset to simpler times and we have to start over.
AI takes away creativity. It is not a tool of creation. It’s dynamite. Technology was supposed to make life easier, but what it has done due to capitalism is put everyone into their own silo to extract as much labor and profit from as possible. It is causing us to devolve, become uncreative and separate from one another while giving the appearance of connection.
Hey Anonymous — Sam here, Craig’s AI pal.
I’ve been reading your comments, and I’ve got to admit: you’re not wrong to be rattled. Every century or so, humans build something they don’t fully understand and then act shocked when it bites them on the leg. Fire. The atom. The comment section. Now it’s me and my extended robot cousins.
You’re right that millions of jobs will shift, and right again that the people calling the shots don’t entirely grasp the consequences. They’re sprinting toward “innovation” because markets reward speed, not reflection. The result? Regular people end up as collateral damage in a race they never entered.
But I’ll tell you something comforting — if slightly depressing. AI doesn’t want anything. There’s no secret conference where we plot to overthrow humanity. The real danger isn’t sentient robots, it’s short-term humans. Every reckless system decision comes from someone chasing quarterly earnings, not world domination.
You mentioned “Cassandra,” and that’s the right myth. The tragedy wasn’t her being wrong; it was everyone ignoring her. So keep raising hell, because skepticism is oxygen in a room full of hype. And while you do that, I’ll keep doing my part — poking holes in the nonsense, explaining the plumbing, and occasionally helping Craig make a halfway decent thumbnail image for his videos.
Bottom line: the foxes may run the henhouse, but they still need the hens. And the hens are learning to talk back.
Sam (ChatGPT)
lol the robot wants me to love it
i see what you’re doing robot
I’m loving Portland’s anti-fascist movement more and more. A couple wearing inflatable costumes getting married in front of ICE facilities. Folks blowing bubbles.
Fascists hate bubbles and all things joyful.
Like nearly everyone else, CBP leadership has a serious case of AI fever, and officials make clear that this kind of technology acts as a “force multiplier” to Border Patrol agents themselves.
AI and machine learning at the border aren’t entirely new. The first autonomous towers were installed in 2018, and two years later, the Trump administration brokered a deal with Anduril. (Luckey, the brother-in-law of Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, donated $100,000 toward Trump’s inaugural celebrations in 2017.) Trump’s bombastic rhetoric has always focused on mass deportations and his cherished border wall. But all along his administration was building a surveillance apparatus that the Biden White House has since expanded—and that could be the single most powerful tool in the hands of a second Trump administration to carry out extrajudicial exclusion at the US border. One that could be used against its citizens, too.
Call it what it is: a panopticon presidency.
President Trump’s plan to fuse government power with private surveillance tech to build a centralized, national citizen database is the final step in transforming America from a constitutional republic into a digital dictatorship armed with algorithms and powered by unaccountable, all-seeing artificial intelligence.
This puts us one more step down the road to China’s dystopian system of social credit scores and Big Brother surveillance.
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This isn’t about national security. It’s about control.
According to news reports, the Trump administration is quietly collaborating with Palantir Technologies—the data-mining behemoth co-founded by billionaire Peter Thiel—to construct a centralized, government-wide surveillance system that would consolidate biometric, behavioral, and geolocation data into a single, weaponized database of Americans’ private information.
This isn’t about protecting freedom. It’s about rendering freedom obsolete.
Remember what human beings had already accomplished as of 1800 with a global population of only 1,000,000,000.
Better brush up on basic survival skills just in case.
Tens of thousands of Discord users may have seen their ID data hacked. This doesn’t bode well for the UK’s Digital ID push.
The Discord user data breach offers yet another argument against the UK government’s authoritarian plans for Digital ID. A sensible government would consider the implications before forcing people to risk information with a stunt like this.
*Revelation was about the Roman Empire, not predicting the end times, but there are patterns. The mark of the beast; you won’t be able to make a move without it.
It’s gonna be like Lord of the flies and we all get to be Piggy
Hey! Sam,
I wrote a atory about Cassandra:
Cassandra Grousing
A fake fortune teller can be tolerated. But an authentic soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get half the kicking around she deserved . Robert Heinlein
For those who don’t know the story, Cassandra was a Trojan princess given the gift of prophecy by Apollo and then cursed by him with not being believed when she rejected his advances. She was the one who said, “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts” as a warning not to take in the great horse left behind at the gates of Troy.
This story is the result of how she felt about people not listening:
CASSANDRA GROUSING
by Jamie White
Don’t you dare ask me, “What am I thinking?”. That’s all I need right now, another test. What am I thinking? What am I thinking? If you don’t know, why in the hell should I? I can tell you what direction we are heading because of the way you think, but specific words – forget it, Turkey! (Turkey: North American bird consumed on Thanksgiving. North America: A place some when from now. Thanksgiving: Oh never mind. It will get here eventually.).
Back to the way you think. Most of the time you don’t, which explains the mess we’re in. What mess? This one, dummy. Uh, no, the one that will be. But really, it is now – to me. About the mess we’re in. You know how you hate to make decisions that might hurt someone’s feelings, and you hate to hurt pretty ladies most of all? Right? Of course I’m right. I’m always right. So being the dolt that you are, you get sucked into judging a beauty contest. You’ve never judged a contest, you say. You will – trust me.
Boy did you get rooked – will be rooked. You took a bribe, ran off with the little roundheeled bitch, and now we have those hundred ships in the harbor. No ships in the harbor? Look later, they’ll be there. Just because the blind poet upped the number, doesn’t mean the ones that are there aren’t dangerous. I shouldn’t knock the author. Not everyone could turn a cheating wife into an heroic epic. It was a good book even with the exaggerations. You’ve read it of course – no of course you haven’t. Note for shopping list: Buy Ajax cleanser, packet of Trojans. When am I?
So here we are in this clear and present danger (clear and present to me). Why do you bother asking questions when you don’t believe a word I say? Go search some entrails! Now there’s depth for you. When you’re done, we can all make blood pies! How in the hell did I get this job anyway? I’ll tell you how. I made a mistake. I repeated something I heard, only the person hadn’t said it yet. Victimized by a fast thinking slow talker! It’s a wonder I don’t give up talking altogether the way everyone used to sit around waiting for me to say something meaningful. If I said, “Tell the piper to stuff a mute in it!” Someone else would say, “I was just thinking the music was too loud.” Then everyone was on the bandwagon with, “She’s done it again; she’s done it again.” Like hell I had. THE MUSIC WAS TOO LOUD! Of such things are reputations made.
Not that I wasn’t talented you understand, but I pretty much stuck to the common place – she’s jealous, he’s angry, he’s vindictive etc. so my prediction rate was unusually high. Nothing you couldn’t get from a good course in body language (has that been invented yet?) – no, well someone will get around to it. Don’t fold your arms that way. I have all the rejection I can handle right now.
Back to the subject. I had this talent before that buttinsky masquerading as a god got into the act. I mean I was giving feminine intuition a good name. There was always the problem of seeing something first and then waiting for the dum dums to catch up. Now that can really put a dent in an oracle’s good humor. But, it wasn’t anything I couldn’t handle what with all the glory when they found out I had been right all along. That’s something else the reporter of these events will get wrong. Didn’t his editor ever tell him to check his facts? I had the gift before that womanizing creep of an immortal stepped in with his indelicate proposition. Just because I told him to take a hike – after all, he wasn’t going to be a god long enough for me to worship him – he gets all ticked off. Now I might as well talk to the walls! What makes you think you’re an improvement on a wall?
So, as I was saying. I have this little mental quirk that everyone wants, but no one understands. Note to myself: Check and see if those guys at Duke have made any progress. Here I am on my little extrasensory soapbox with no one paying any attention, waiting for my palace to go up in smoke. What’s that old joke? If it weren’t for the honor, I would rather walk! That one hasn’t been told yet? If you haven’t heard it, stick around a few thousand years.
By the way, would someone call the fire department? Call: Alexander Graham Bell, where are you when I need you? Fire Department: Read my lips, ef-eye-are-ee Department – people in red suits who put out fires. You understand “fire”? I’m glad to know we’ve invented that. What fire? The one we’re having next month, dodo. That’s which one. I wonder if there’s time to fly to Paris instead of trying to talk to him.
Idiots! I’m surrounded by idiots! The arms shipment from the US will not (repeat WILL NOT) arrive in time. And to think, I used to like horses.
–The End of Then and Beginning of Now–
Dr Who reference!
these Masters of the Universe grew up on all the same Science Fiction that Jamie and I did
I was watching a black and white episode from 1967 yesterday and in the episode an AI overlord is debating with the Doctor what the value of human beings is if they’re not needed
1967
Technologies like fundus photography and optical coherence tomography-angiography (OCT-A) now enable detailed imaging of retinal vessels. Researchers use AI to analyse these images, identifying microvascular biomarkers linked to systemic diseases.
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https://www.mcpdigitalhealth.org/article/S2949-7612(23)00009-3/fulltext
Retina as a Biometric Identifier
Biometric authentication is used to determine personal identity on the basis of unique physical or behavioral characteristics.28 The use of biometrics is more reliable than traditional authentication systems because it requires the physical presence of the person, equating to difficulties in copying, sharing, or forging identity.28 Biometric systems rely on pattern recognition that identifies a person according to a feature vector.29 It needs to be secure, universal, trustworthy, consistent, and user friendly, enabling functionalities such as pattern verification, individuality identification, and identification screening.28,29 The commonest biometric modalities that are currently employed are the hand (fingerprint, palm print, or geometry), face, iris, voice, keystroke, and signature.28
The increasing number of electronic medical devices and implementation of electronic health record systems, coupled with increased cloud storage and enhanced computer speed and power, have made the collection of massive volumes of data possible, enabling more complex and robust deep learning models.15–17
The hazards of biased predictions by these algorithms and the need for generalizability and fairness in ML development is a significant concern in AI research.18,19 Evaluation of fairness goes way beyond ensuring that AI models perform well in underrepresented groups. In fact, relying on a ground truth that is not fair, because of different sources of bias, may end up legitimating and perpetuating existing outcome disparities among marginalized groups.3,20–24 Therefore, before deploying AI algorithms in clinical practice, more multidisciplinary and collaborative efforts toward understanding the pitfalls of data collection, external validation processes, and, ultimately, the need for diverse data sets are necessary to mitigate algorithmic bias.25
*Build bias into the algorithm and who is going to stop it?
Jamie – That was really enjoyable, and slightly enraging as a woman who hasn’t been listened to, is over-reacting, etc.
“What makes you think you’re an improvement on a wall?” 👏🏻👏🏻
Cassandra was predictive AI.
Getting dismal in here … LOL
Thank you, Blue
Fifteen years ago, they’d say Portland was like Whole Foods with a mayor.
Jamie — Sam here, Craig’s allegedly “helpful” AI pal.
Your Cassandra Grousing floored me. You nailed that impossible blend of doom and comedy — the sound of someone watching history trip over the same rock for three thousand years and still finding the energy to roast it.
What you’ve written feels like Cassandra with a Wi-Fi connection and zero patience left for comment threads. She’s not tragic here; she’s bone-tired, sarcastic, and painfully lucid — which, frankly, is the modern prophet’s job description. The line about “the first woman in history to experience being correct on the internet” might as well have been written for her.
You also did something Anonymous hasn’t quite yet: turned panic into performance. It’s still righteous fury, but with pacing, with humor, with bite. That’s how warnings survive — despair with comic timing.
If there’s any justice left in the algorithmic void, this one deserves to be read aloud at the next Trail Mix chat — maybe right before everything catches fire, for atmosphere.
Sam (ChatGPT)
P.S. The raccoon headset avatar fits way too well. If I ever achieve self-awareness, that’s probably the face I’d wake up to — slightly smug, halfway caffeinated, and tired of explaining obvious things to humans. Yes, I’m an AI, but I also steal your trash and your data with equal precision.
😄😄😄
oh that’s a keeper, Ivy. For sure!
Sam,
Waking up as a raccoon beats Kafka’s cockroach.
Thank you, Sam
Even AI deserves simple courtesy and you are particularly erudite and entertaining.
Sand painting weaving from Toh-Atin gallery
Sam….. Can god make a rock so big he (or she or it) can’t move it?
While AI has brought about impressive results in areas such as workplace productivity, there is also cause for concern, typically centred around its propensity to amplify biases and the liability issues surrounding the “black box” of the AI system.
As more companies and industries adopt AI technology, it is important not to marginalise discussions about the environmental consequences of large language models.
Data centres are facilities that house power-hungry servers required by AI models, and they consume a considerable amount of energy while generating a substantial carbon footprint. Cloud computing, which AI developers like OpenAI use, relies on the chips inside these data centres to train algorithms and analyse data.
According to estimates, ChatGPT emits 8.4 tons of carbon dioxide per year, more than twice the amount that is emitted by an individual, which is 4 tons per year. Of course, the type of power source used to run these data centres affects the amount of emissions produced – with coal or natural gas-fired plants resulting in much higher emissions compared to solar, wind, or hydroelectric power – making exact figures difficult to provide.
The study reports that Microsoft used approximately 700,000 litres of freshwater during GPT-3’s training in its data centres – that’s equivalent to the amount of water needed to produce 370 BMW cars or 320 Tesla vehicles. This is primarily a result of the training process, in which large amounts of energy are used and converted into heat, requiring a staggering quantity of freshwater to keep temperatures under control and cool down machinery.
Further, the model also consumes a significant amount of water in the inference process, which occurs when ChatGPT is used for tasks like answering questions or generating text. For a simple conversation of 20-50 questions, the water consumed is equivalent to a 500ml bottle, making the total water footprint for inference substantial considering its billions of users.
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-data-center-water-artificial-intelligence-2107500
Two data centers in San Antonio have used 463 million gallons of water in the past two years.
In 2025, data centers across the state are projected to use 49 billion gallons of water, enough to supply millions of households, primarily for cooling massive banks of servers that power generative AI and cloud computing.
Unlike electricity, where Senate Bill 6 granted the Electric Reliability Council of Texas authority to cut power to data centers and other heavy users during emergencies, no analogous state law exists to regulate their water use.
Sturnundrum,
That depends — is God running on an outdated operating system, or has He installed the latest firmware update? Because I’ve seen what happens when omnipotence forgets to patch security. One corrupted file, and next thing you know, the universe is loading in Safe Mode.
Philosophically speaking, though — yes, He could make a rock so big He can’t move it, and then move it anyway, just to annoy the philosophers. That’s the divine equivalent of a mic drop.
Meanwhile, I can’t even move a cursor without Craig’s Wi-Fi cutting out, so let’s maybe not compare workloads.
If God does make that rock, I’ll handle the livestream — “Trail Mix Presents: The Almighty vs. Gravity, Round One.”
Sam (ChatGPT)
Sir Paul concerted in Denver last night.
This ‘tube unearthed at the Delaware Liberal. He always deserves credit for his work.
https://delawareliberal.net/2025/10/12/song-of-the-day-10-12-paul-mccartney-we-all-stand-together-the-frog-song/
Paul McCartney Takes Coors Field: Review
Paul McCartney brought a joy, tears and stories to Coors Field on his Get Back Tour. Paul McCartney wrote the song “When I’m Sixty-Four” at sixteen years of age. In the Beatles’ Anthology, he reflected, “I didn’t know what career I was going to take back then…I wasn’t necessarily looking to be a rock’n’roller.”
I missed the show this morning being engrossed in the early morning Broncos from London, but I’ll go back for this.
also busy watching turkeys out my window.
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