“All roads with you lead to Putin,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reportedly told President Donald Trump in a White House meeting Wednesday, saying that by withdrawing U.S. forces from Syria, Trump had given Russia the Middle East foothold it long wanted.
body language of group interesting in that top photo: most of the congress critters leaning in as if attacking/accusing and most of Trumpian admin sitting aback as if cowering/ashamed
WASHINGTON – After a tense day between Capitol Hill lawmakers and the White House, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had a little fun.
President Donald Trump tweeted a photo of a group in a meeting at the White House, with Pelosi standing at the table, pointing a finger at the president. In his tweet, Trump said Pelosi had an “unhinged meltdown.”
So, Pelosi made it the cover photo on her Twitter and Facebook pages.
[continues with some interesting tweets including amy klobuchar’s “Can a woman beat Donald Trump?
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) set up a veto override vote for Thursday at 1:45 p.m., as he wrapped up the Senate’s work on Wednesday and set the schedule for Thursday.
The vote will come less than two days after Trump vetoed the resolution, which passed the House and Senate last month.
Trump, in his veto message to the Senate, said the national emergency has allowed the administration to “counter large-scale unlawful migration” and facilitated the construction of his long-promised border wall.
“In short, the situation on our southern border remains a national emergency, and our Armed Forces are still needed to help confront it,” he added.
Under the National Emergencies Act, a resolution ending the declaration needed only a simple majority to clear the Senate.
But Thursday’s veto override attempt is expected to fall short of the 67 votes needed.
The resolution to end Trump’s emergency declaration initially passed the Senate by 54-41, with 11 Republican senators voting with Democrats to nix the declaration.
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What a sad day… R.I.P. Mr. Cummings. I don’t know if there really is a heaven… but I know you’re there.
NYTimes blow by blow report: Inside the Derailed White House Meeting
[…]
Mr. Trump began the proceedings in the Cabinet Room by making it clear that he did not want to be there.
“They said you wanted this meeting,” Mr. Trump told the congressional leaders. “I didn’t want this meeting, but I’m doing it.”
Several lawmakers replied that the White House had reached out to them in efforts to brief them on the administration’s Syria policy.
Mr. Trump then began a speech about a “nasty” letter he had sent to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, which he said was proof that he had not given the Turkish leader a green light to advance Turkish forces into Syria. Mr. Trump then directed Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the Republican minority leader, to pass copies of the letter around the table.
The letter to Mr. Erdogan, which began with the sentence “Let’s work out a good deal!” was dated Oct. 9, or three days after the two leaders discussed the departure of American forces from the area.
Mr. Schumer, for his part, tried to appeal to Mr. Trump as a fellow New Yorker who lived through the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
“I told the president, being from New York,” Mr. Schumer said to reporters shortly after the meeting, “we’re particularly aware of the problems that terrorism that an organization like ISIS can create. And the fact that someone no less than General Mattis has said that ISIS has been enhanced, that the danger of ISIS is so much greater, worries all of us.”
At Mr. Schumer’s mention of Gen. Jim Mattis —who quit last year as Mr. Trump’s secretary of defense to protest the president’s decision to pull American troops out of Syria — Mr. Trump began denigrating the retired four-star general’s approach to combating terrorism in the Middle East.
Mr. Mattis was “the world’s most overrated general,” Mr. Trump told the group. “You know why? He wasn’t tough enough. I captured ISIS. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month.”
The conversation, several Democratic officials said, only devolved from there, and reached a fever pitch after Ms. Pelosi told the president that Russia, which has quickly stepped in to fill the void left by American troops in Syria, “has always wanted a foothold in the Middle East.” It was at this point that she told Mr. Trump that all roads with him led to Mr. Putin.
At another point, Mr. Trump told Ms. Pelosi that he cared more about defeating terrorism than she did.
“I hate ISIS more than you do,” the president declared.
“You don’t know that,” the speaker replied.
What happened next is now a matter of ammunition by both the Democrats and the White House.
“You’re just a politician,” Mr. Trump said to Ms. Pelosi.
“Sometimes I wish you were,” Ms. Pelosi shot back.
Mr. Schumer interjected, telling Mr. Trump that name-calling was not necessary.
“Is that a bad name, Chuck?” Mr. Trump asked, then turned to Ms. Pelosi. “You’re not a politician, you’re a third-grade politician.” (Or “third-rate,” depending on which politician was doing the retelling.)
Ms. Pelosi stood up to leave, but then sat back down. At this point Representative Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the House majority leader — who later said he was “deeply offended” by the president’s treatment of the speaker — said it was time to go.
“This is not useful,” Mr. Hoyer said as he and Ms. Pelosi made for the door.
“Goodbye,” the president responded. “We’ll see you at the polls.”
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I would hope there is a heaven just for folks like Rep Cummings. But if there’s a heaven then there must also be a hell, and that could be problematic on down the road.
The disinformation surrounding Kamala Harris is inordinately persistent, but it is not limited to bad faith takes from journalists. The bot activity surrounding Kamala Harris is striking, particularly for a candidate that polls between 4th and 5th place.
Almost President Pelosi just ordered flags to half staff in honor of Rep. Cummings
Well I suppose she had to order them to half staff because I haven’t seen anything that suggests that president SFB has done anything with respect to representative Cummings’ passing.
Mulvaney -little dick jerk off
Just another preppie gooper thug like the ones who marched in Charlotteville
Trump seems to have dictated a tweet. I say dictated since everything was spelled correctly. It had complete sentences and no random capitalization. Only one glitch in that he offered “warmest condolences” rather than “deepest”.
We should all get our Reps and Sens to thank trump for picking up the G7 tab.
So Mulvaney (sic) said we know there is an ethical problem having the G-7 at the Doral but they don’t care and they will do what they want to regardless
Wow I’ll bet the Kurds think this a great idea — they have five days or so to get out — Where are they supposed to go.
Mike Pence just basically announced that he just agreed to demand the Kurds’ unconditional surrender of their land against their will.
Here’s the trump G7 plan :
The event will be an extravaganza with trump at the center with tons of photo ops. All the foreign dips and the marla ego backdrop will become part of the trump election campaign. This horrifically expensive party will be put on at the trump property at the expense of Uncle Sam. So, the Evil One gets the campaign help PLUS the revenue for putting on the event, PLUS free international marketing for his resort.
Chuck and Nancy should be able to throw wrenches into this self-enrichment plot. I am proposing using thank yous to corner the trumps into either moving the event or paying for it themselves.
Looks like both Sondland and Mulvaney decided to fuck over trump and protect themselves.
“This is corruption, plain and simple,” Warren, who is running for president, tweeted.
[…]
Warren, who has joined others in vocally criticizing Trump’s use of his own properties as president, released a policy proposal last month to address conflicts of interest in government, calling the Trump presidency the “most corrupt administration of our lifetimes.”
The same month, Warren pressed the State Department for details on Vice President Pence’s stay at a Trump hotel in Doonbeg, Ireland, earlier this year.
“This transaction—another example of what appears to be open corruption in this administration—deepens my concerns about the ongoing ethics issues related to the President’s continued financial relationship with the Trump Organization and the abuse of taxpayer funds to enrich the President and his family through their business interests,” Warren wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
GOPer crack widening… hear it crackle as romney speaks about the Syria debacle on CSPAN2
Very sad to hear about Rep. Elijah Cummings. I met him only once and came away with a deep and grateful feeling for the experience. I had hopes that he would take over from Speaker Pelosi once she became president.
It is obvious that the world of SFB is spinning more rapidly than Miller can keep straight. That is resulting in all sorts of extra havoc on top of the choreographed hell that has been going on for years. Someone must have gotten to SFB to convince him that his legacy will include genocide, and possibly a date for crimes against humanity.
From the CNN piece linked by Jamie:
House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff said acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney’s comments today mean things are now “much, much worse.”
“I think Mr. Mulvaney’s acknowledgement means that things have gone from very, very bad to much, much worse,” he told CNN while leaving the Capitol Hill Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility.
Earlier today, Mulvaney told reporters that aid to Ukraine was in fact tied to President Trump’s wish for an investigation into the 2016 election.
I can’t stand Mulvaney. I heard a bit of his briefing, and it made me wonder why the hell he was out there commenting. If Sekulow had been in the wings I think he would have run out and tackled him to shut him up.
Lordy, there is rally in DFW. I hope that “45-fest” is the last rally before he is booted from office. Surprise from the local coverage: they are not all red necks named Bubba. Women, Hispanics. Maybe they are paid actors.
And now he is headed to the Louis Vuitton factory in Keene, TX. Hmmm, the Trumps outsourced their branded crap to China.
SFB has paid people to attend rallies
Oh, at least there are protesters at the rally, including those from the N TX Kurdish community.
Paid seat-fillers; job creation. If there was ever a time or place for an asteroid strike…
Beto is having a “campaign against fear” in opposition.
I have to share this comment from Wapo from a poster with the screen name “smallest”.
Love how the right is lips-to-rectum in love with a guy who can’t speak a sentence that isn’t either a laughable lie or a ridiculous boast (and is often both), who is a thrice-married, six-time-bankrupt, peeping Tom who invited the Taliban to brunch on the anniversary of 9/11, who ran a fake “university”, who is widely known for not paying people who work for him, who regularly insults vets, calls coking around NYC his “own Vietnam”, who hired three of his incompetent children to scoot around the world playing diplomat while making money for the family, who is about to be impeached for using office of the President to arm-twist a foreign government into trying to help him with opposition research.
I do not believe I’ve ever read such a comprehensive, but succinct description of the charlatan in the WH.
Ivanker is responsible for 14 million jobs? Huh?
The folks at the LV factory won’t get paid enough to buy one of the items they make. (Poor cows, too. They need their skins.)
Somebody needs to keep the mic hot to see what he has to see about them after he leaves.
Oh, and SFB says he’s happy to have been part of it. It, being the crap he started in Syria. Like a toddler proudly pointing at his own turd in the potty.
Turmoil in the toilet of golden glow. Looks like his Chief of Staff screwed up by admitting to a quid pro quo, because he is now saying that he did not say what he said on camera. Oh well, in the SFB world the only truth is there is no truth, unless it is the single moment the orange beast speaks it; and it will change at the next moment. I am going to guess there will be a new acting CoS in the near future.
Interesting. I just had an hour long conversation with one of my half dozen best friends from high school. Probably haven’t seen or spoken with him in 42 years. He lives 2000 miles from East Bumfuck and 30 minutes from my mother in law and brother in law. It was like we’d last spoken a week ago.
body language of group interesting in that top photo: most of the congress critters leaning in as if attacking/accusing and most of Trumpian admin sitting aback as if cowering/ashamed
[continues with some interesting tweets including amy klobuchar’s “Can a woman beat Donald Trump?
Yes. @SpeakerPelosi does it every day.”]
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/17/770851734/maryland-democratic-rep-elijah-cummings-dies-at-68
BBC news headline this morning:
Turkish president Erdogan ‘threw Trump’s Syria letter in bin’
Very sad news about Elijah. I saw him speak 5 months ago and he was inspiring. He’ll be missed in the House. He’ll be missed by the country.
This
Has our asshole “president” insulted the memory of Elijah Cummings through a series of idiotic tweets yet?
Talk about irony. SFB telling Erdogan “Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool.”
That WH photographer is in for a tough day.
It was sad waking up to the death of Elijah Cummings. He was only 68 and a national treasure.
we might see the GOPer wall crack widening this afternoon with this vote.
the hill via msn:
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What a sad day… R.I.P. Mr. Cummings. I don’t know if there really is a heaven… but I know you’re there.
NYTimes blow by blow report: Inside the Derailed White House Meeting
[…]
Mr. Trump began the proceedings in the Cabinet Room by making it clear that he did not want to be there.
“They said you wanted this meeting,” Mr. Trump told the congressional leaders. “I didn’t want this meeting, but I’m doing it.”
Several lawmakers replied that the White House had reached out to them in efforts to brief them on the administration’s Syria policy.
Mr. Trump then began a speech about a “nasty” letter he had sent to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, which he said was proof that he had not given the Turkish leader a green light to advance Turkish forces into Syria. Mr. Trump then directed Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the Republican minority leader, to pass copies of the letter around the table.
The letter to Mr. Erdogan, which began with the sentence “Let’s work out a good deal!” was dated Oct. 9, or three days after the two leaders discussed the departure of American forces from the area.
A short time later, Ms. Pelosi told the president that the House had passed a bipartisan resolution with overwhelming Republican support that condemned his acquiescence to a Turkish assault against the Kurds, who have been crucial American allies in the fight against ISIS.
Mr. Schumer, for his part, tried to appeal to Mr. Trump as a fellow New Yorker who lived through the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
“I told the president, being from New York,” Mr. Schumer said to reporters shortly after the meeting, “we’re particularly aware of the problems that terrorism that an organization like ISIS can create. And the fact that someone no less than General Mattis has said that ISIS has been enhanced, that the danger of ISIS is so much greater, worries all of us.”
At Mr. Schumer’s mention of Gen. Jim Mattis — who quit last year as Mr. Trump’s secretary of defense to protest the president’s decision to pull American troops out of Syria — Mr. Trump began denigrating the retired four-star general’s approach to combating terrorism in the Middle East.
Mr. Mattis was “the world’s most overrated general,” Mr. Trump told the group. “You know why? He wasn’t tough enough. I captured ISIS. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month.”
The conversation, several Democratic officials said, only devolved from there, and reached a fever pitch after Ms. Pelosi told the president that Russia, which has quickly stepped in to fill the void left by American troops in Syria, “has always wanted a foothold in the Middle East.” It was at this point that she told Mr. Trump that all roads with him led to Mr. Putin.
At another point, Mr. Trump told Ms. Pelosi that he cared more about defeating terrorism than she did.
“I hate ISIS more than you do,” the president declared.
“You don’t know that,” the speaker replied.
What happened next is now a matter of ammunition by both the Democrats and the White House.
“You’re just a politician,” Mr. Trump said to Ms. Pelosi.
“Sometimes I wish you were,” Ms. Pelosi shot back.
Mr. Schumer interjected, telling Mr. Trump that name-calling was not necessary.
“Is that a bad name, Chuck?” Mr. Trump asked, then turned to Ms. Pelosi. “You’re not a politician, you’re a third-grade politician.” (Or “third-rate,” depending on which politician was doing the retelling.)
Ms. Pelosi stood up to leave, but then sat back down. At this point Representative Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the House majority leader — who later said he was “deeply offended” by the president’s treatment of the speaker — said it was time to go.
“This is not useful,” Mr. Hoyer said as he and Ms. Pelosi made for the door.
“Goodbye,” the president responded. “We’ll see you at the polls.”
[continues]
I would hope there is a heaven just for folks like Rep Cummings. But if there’s a heaven then there must also be a hell, and that could be problematic on down the road.
Also throw Pence out and it’s President Pelosi
Sounds like a plan. I vote for the twofer.
White Out: The Unrelenting Quest to Erase Kamala Harris
Almost President Pelosi just ordered flags to half staff in honor of Rep. Cummings
Well I suppose she had to order them to half staff because I haven’t seen anything that suggests that president SFB has done anything with respect to representative Cummings’ passing.
Trump awards G-7 meeting in US to …. Trump.
How do you spell self-dealing? T-R-U-M-P. I just heard Mulvaney trying to put gloss on this turd – it stank.
Mulvaney -little dick jerk off
Just another preppie gooper thug like the ones who marched in Charlotteville
Trump seems to have dictated a tweet. I say dictated since everything was spelled correctly. It had complete sentences and no random capitalization. Only one glitch in that he offered “warmest condolences” rather than “deepest”.
We should all get our Reps and Sens to thank trump for picking up the G7 tab.
So Mulvaney (sic) said we know there is an ethical problem having the G-7 at the Doral but they don’t care and they will do what they want to regardless
Wow I’ll bet the Kurds think this a great idea — they have five days or so to get out — Where are they supposed to go.
Mike Pence just basically announced that he just agreed to demand the Kurds’ unconditional surrender of their land against their will.
Here’s the trump G7 plan :
The event will be an extravaganza with trump at the center with tons of photo ops. All the foreign dips and the marla ego backdrop will become part of the trump election campaign. This horrifically expensive party will be put on at the trump property at the expense of Uncle Sam. So, the Evil One gets the campaign help PLUS the revenue for putting on the event, PLUS free international marketing for his resort.
Chuck and Nancy should be able to throw wrenches into this self-enrichment plot. I am proposing using thank yous to corner the trumps into either moving the event or paying for it themselves.
Looks like both Sondland and Mulvaney decided to fuck over trump and protect themselves.
Latest on the Trump impeachment inquiry
the hill:
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) blasted the White House’s announcement on Thursday that the annual Group of 7 (G-7) economic summit would be held at one of President Trump‘s golf properties in Florida.
“This is corruption, plain and simple,” Warren, who is running for president, tweeted.
[…]
Warren, who has joined others in vocally criticizing Trump’s use of his own properties as president, released a policy proposal last month to address conflicts of interest in government, calling the Trump presidency the “most corrupt administration of our lifetimes.”
The same month, Warren pressed the State Department for details on Vice President Pence’s stay at a Trump hotel in Doonbeg, Ireland, earlier this year.
“This transaction—another example of what appears to be open corruption in this administration—deepens my concerns about the ongoing ethics issues related to the President’s continued financial relationship with the Trump Organization and the abuse of taxpayer funds to enrich the President and his family through their business interests,” Warren wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
GOPer crack widening… hear it crackle as romney speaks about the Syria debacle on CSPAN2
Very sad to hear about Rep. Elijah Cummings. I met him only once and came away with a deep and grateful feeling for the experience. I had hopes that he would take over from Speaker Pelosi once she became president.
It is obvious that the world of SFB is spinning more rapidly than Miller can keep straight. That is resulting in all sorts of extra havoc on top of the choreographed hell that has been going on for years. Someone must have gotten to SFB to convince him that his legacy will include genocide, and possibly a date for crimes against humanity.
From the CNN piece linked by Jamie:
I can’t stand Mulvaney. I heard a bit of his briefing, and it made me wonder why the hell he was out there commenting. If Sekulow had been in the wings I think he would have run out and tackled him to shut him up.
Lordy, there is rally in DFW. I hope that “45-fest” is the last rally before he is booted from office. Surprise from the local coverage: they are not all red necks named Bubba. Women, Hispanics. Maybe they are paid actors.
And now he is headed to the Louis Vuitton factory in Keene, TX. Hmmm, the Trumps outsourced their branded crap to China.
SFB has paid people to attend rallies
Oh, at least there are protesters at the rally, including those from the N TX Kurdish community.
Paid seat-fillers; job creation. If there was ever a time or place for an asteroid strike…
Beto is having a “campaign against fear” in opposition.
Here’s an article about the Louis Vuitton sweatshop near Dallas. FWIW, Mrs. P has never brought herself to dole out the cash for an LV bag.
I have to share this comment from Wapo from a poster with the screen name “smallest”.
I do not believe I’ve ever read such a comprehensive, but succinct description of the charlatan in the WH.
Ivanker is responsible for 14 million jobs? Huh?
The folks at the LV factory won’t get paid enough to buy one of the items they make. (Poor cows, too. They need their skins.)
Somebody needs to keep the mic hot to see what he has to see about them after he leaves.
Oh, and SFB says he’s happy to have been part of it. It, being the crap he started in Syria. Like a toddler proudly pointing at his own turd in the potty.
Turmoil in the toilet of golden glow. Looks like his Chief of Staff screwed up by admitting to a quid pro quo, because he is now saying that he did not say what he said on camera. Oh well, in the SFB world the only truth is there is no truth, unless it is the single moment the orange beast speaks it; and it will change at the next moment. I am going to guess there will be a new acting CoS in the near future.
Interesting. I just had an hour long conversation with one of my half dozen best friends from high school. Probably haven’t seen or spoken with him in 42 years. He lives 2000 miles from East Bumfuck and 30 minutes from my mother in law and brother in law. It was like we’d last spoken a week ago.
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