Hitting Home

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas says he shook hands with CPAC attendee who tested positive for coronavirus, will self-quarantine.

US Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) : “I am announcing that I, along with 3 of my senior staff, are officially under self-quarantine after sustained contact at CPAC with a person who has since been hospitalized with the Wuhan Virus. My office will be closed for the week.”

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  1. nifty excuse not to have to campaign for those who’d rather do it via tv ads, telephonic townhalls and social media.

     

    think, by any chance, untrusTED later that day shook any White House denizen’s hands?

  2. BiD, a cartoon to express your sentiment last thread — change the “impeached” signs to “covid19-ed” over trumpence heads

  3. wapo:

    Trump was photographed shaking hands with Matt Schlapp, the chairman of the American Conservative Union, who confirmed that he had been in direct contact with the infected man during the Conservative Political Action Conference last month.
    The handshake at CPAC put Trump just two degrees of separation away from the virus that he has sought to minimize as it has rocked financial markets and tested his leadership skills. While the White House has maintained that Trump was never in direct contact with the infected person and does not have any symptoms, the potential close call at a political event underscores how the outbreak threatens to upend the president’s routine as he campaigns for reelection.

     

  4. Looks like the greedy old perverts are facing that fork in the road, one path to Hell is to stick with SFB and live in his alternate reality.  The other path to Hell is to live in this real world and face a disease which is getting around and killing people.  Even the clown Gaetz got a touch of the real world (little he cares though).
     
    This corner of the real world is trying to stay away from crowds.  I have to have a good talk with my management about staying away from the office.  We have people traveling all over the world often bringing back weird little bugs, and not just the ones with lots of legs. 

  5. another day, another poll.  just hope these folks can get out and go vote when time comes.  might be too scared to be in crowds.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/cnn-poll-biden-lead-sanders/index.html

    The poll finds 52% of registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents say they want to see Biden win the nomination, while 36% say they’d rather see Sanders win.
    […]
    Biden’s successful Super Tuesday appears to have led to a rebound in his favorability rating (48% overall now hold a positive view, up from 39% in December), while Sanders has hit his highest unfavorability rating yet in CNN polling back to 2015 (52% hold an unfavorable view of him, up from 44% in December).
    […]
    Overall, Biden holds a nearly 20-point edge among white voters and 10-point one among non-whites, as Sanders’ strength among Latino voters cancels out a bit of Biden’s edge among African Americans. But there remain sharp divides within the party across age groups, ideological views and party affiliation. Among those under age 45, Sanders tops Biden by 26 points, 57% to 31%. Among voters age 45 or older, it’s a 72% to 17% advantage for Biden.

  6. BiD the market tripped one of the circuit breakers put in place after the October 1987 stock market plunge.
    Here is how it works.
    Circuit-breakers today: * If the S&P 500 declines 7%, (208 points), trading will pause for 15 min * If declines 13%, (386 pts) trading will again pause for 15 mins * If falls 20%, (594 pts) the markets would close for the day.
    Jack
     

  7. jack – Thank You.   Any idea why they think things will be different after 15 minutes or a day?   

  8. BiD
    I would guess to slow things down to the reaction speed of an ordinary human. So much trading is computer driven and in volatile times like these traders have what are called “stop loss orders” Where they have an automatic sale once the price has fallen to a certain level. And there are other things too. So 15 min gives time for a human to make the decision.
    Flatus is more the expert on this stuff, as he has actually traded for a living. I just sit on the sidelines and go “Look at dat”
    Jack

  9. My orthopod in NYC responded to a text from me then called to chat about my upcoming trip.  His take – based upon his hospital’s daily briefing was that those who stay away from crowds (e.g no basketball games and not going to go stand in the Plaza for the Today Show), don’t shake hands, wash their hands frequently and (Wait for it) don’t touch their face should “be fine.”  He actually called to allay Mrs. P’s concerns about my getting the surgery done in NYC.
     
    SFB should look at his inept comments about the US’ activities responding to the virus as one huge problem in the stock market.  Now, the market might have cratered anyway based upon global fears and the Russia/Saudi spat about crude, but dumbass contradicting the experts who were with him certainly didn’t help calm any nervousness the investment class had going into the trading session this morning.

  10. I don’t invest in stocks, never have, just like wasting cash in Vegas in my opinion. But if I did and discovered the market shut down when I wanted to sell I’d be really pissed. Another reason I don’t go there. 

  11. Well, trading has resumed – Dow’s off 5.13% (at 24,539). The Wayback Machine has us in the 2nd week of January, 2019 or mid July 2018 or around Christmas 2017 – pick your favorite from those.  IOW – roughly half of all gains during the SFB administration are now gone. Average annual gain during SFB’s admin so far – a very pedestrian 8%.

  12. @JoeBiden on @MSNBC just now, re:coronavirus – – “There’s no confidence in the president in anything he says or does. He turns everything into what he thinks is a political benefit for himself but he’s actually imploding… I wish he would just be quiet.”

  13. Bernie’s cratering.  He’s not picking up much from Lizzie’s exit.  New polls show him having lost about 8 points to Biden in Washington State – from a single digit lead to 2 points behind.  And Michigan – he’s gone from a single digit lead or loss to 28 points behind in a couple of weeks.  A poor Super Tuesday showing has effectively killed his campaign.  I want to see polls out of PA – the latest one was through 2/20 after the 1st 4 contests but before ST.

  14. 44 thumb drives not counted in TX primary.    They are said to count for about 10% of the total votes.    Some thumb drives were not turned in in a timely manner, and, others are from voting machines that were not scheduled to be used. (Why were they in the polling places if they weren’t scheduled to be used?  Why wouldn’t they be scheduled for use in order to reduce wait times?)   Anyway, the counting in TX is not over.   

  15. We have money in the stock market.  I don’t know what percent..  it’s managed by Fidelity.
    Just came home from grocery shopping.  The refrigerator is all stocked again… our pantry has a few extras.  But I didn’t bother to buy much in the way of “fun” food.  This market plunge is scary and I let it affect my grocery shopping habits this morning.

  16. Monday, October 19, 1987 was a day of infamy for American securities markets trading systems. They absolutely collapsed under the weight of orders placed by investors wanting/needing to shift assets within their investment portfolios. Despite standing at a terminal at my broker and using my personal link with Dow Jones, it was as if it 0230 on Sunday morning—communications were down. It was impossible to trade. The only thing that saved my ass that week was buying 10,000 puts on AT&T and going long on some British shares. I did that the week before.

    When, on Monday and later that week, trading was totally impossible, the SEC stepped in with circuit breakers. They helped but the ‘sink’ was really, really clogged. I’ll never forget being interview by a teevee reporter while standing at a terminal in St Pete. The camera should have been on his face when I told him, “There’s blood all over the floor.”

    For individuals, sort things out in your own mind determining what is best for you at this point in time and do it. I tend to abide by the maxim, “Markets will fluctuate.”

  17. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/09/how-trumps-business-empire-is-cashing-in-on-the-2020-campaign

    According to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP), Trump-allied political committees and the Republican party have spent a whopping $18.1m at Trump properties since he launched his 2016 campaign. Republican candidates, elected officials and Pacs have ponied up another $1.2m in the same period.
    […]
    Trump properties have also seen a nice boomlet as committees linked to key congressional allies, such as the Republican House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, have also spent big bucks to haul in campaign loot.
    McCarthy, for instance, teamed up with Pence to host a big fundraiser for their Protect the House Pac at the Trump hotel last October, which drew Trump as a guest speaker and pulled in about $13m, according to public records.
    Other McCarthy committees to benefit House members organized two bashes at the hotel in 2018. Altogether these events have generated over $200,000 in revenues for Trump’s hotel, campaign reports show.
    Likewise, the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, hosted a big-money bash at Trump’s hotel last fall for his Senate Leadership Fund, an event Trump attended too.

  18. Retirement is tied up in my 401(k), so no choice but to be there for the company’s match.  I’ve always invested like I’m 90, so I don’t gain much and, hopefully, that will save me in times like these.   (W wanted social security to be wrapped up in the market.) A financial advisor on TV said a feed ago there was something mire in place than.  I can’t remember for the life of me what he said, but he sounded ticked off that it’s gone.  *Something about not being allowed to short the market until a certain point.  Foxes  guarding the hen house. 

  19. PatD – So much for the emoluments clause.   Still haven’t seen SFB’s taxes, either.  Go, cofeve, go!

  20. I’m not good a math but it seems me the death rate for the virus is higher in the
    US then what was originally predicted 

  21. KGC, that’s the problem of not getting all the testing done that needs to be done.  skews the death rate data.  probably COVID19 wider spread through out the country than current limited tests results show.

  22. …might be a good time to start filing that 25th Amendment paperwork,  both trump and pence are obviously incapable of discharging the powers of their offices.
     
    Hurry up before we all die, TIA

  23. That may mean that more folks are actually infected with the virus.  Since we don’t have test kits, and, since many folks are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms, we have no way to tell.   That means those who are contagious may be mingling with the general public without any idea they are carriers.      What was the plan for the folks on the cruise ship in Oakland?   Sleepy Ben Carson said he didn’t want to divulge details, as the plan should come from a single source, but that we’d know today.    TrumPence is pulling it all out of their lying, inept, collective ass. 

  24. The Lady in the Lake is the EC, sort of; vote of the masses, pfffft.  
    I wonder how many votes for Warren were on those thumb drives?  
    And now, for something completely different (but not unrelated)…“O-oh, bring out your dead.” 

  25. BiD,  USAtoday said:

    According to Chinese officials, COVID-19 first appeared Dec. 12 about 700 miles south of Beijing in Wuhan, a city with more people than New York and Chicago combined. Health officials say the outbreak originated at the Huanan Seafood Market.

     

    so a lot of travel has gone on since 12/12 and because it spreads exponentially, a lot of people were affected because of our global interconnectedness before flights were cancelled and borders were sealed.       

  26. BiD, if those “found” thumb drive votes all turn out to be for Bernie, it’s possible that the GOPers dirty tricksters had a hand in “finding” them.

  27. Anyone who has any kind of work retirement probably has a piece of the stock market.  jack, I heard about the breakers on CNBC & Bloomberg this morning.  Couldn’t listen to the other talking heads rattling on about pandemic but don’t panic by the hour.
    My son who’s a doc in a hospital in NYC is calm.  But he said they’re freaking out in general because the hospitals don’t have enough stuff. Something about negative pressure, etc. A lot of meetings.  They don’t listen to the WH.  They get their info from NYS who gets it from CDC or some such. Glad to hear that. I worry about him because he’s pulmonary/critical care and works in the ICU. But he’s young & healthy.  Here’s hoping!  On the other hand, I’m in the ancient category but don’t have any underlying conditions.  So here’s hoping considering I just got over Influenza B but with relatively mild symptoms. But still it took weeks to resolve. And that was without lung involvement.
     
     
     
     

  28. If there is no accurate count you have to go with count we know.  It the fault of the administration they will have to live with it

  29. Screw you, Pooh-tin.   We’ve got Bloomberg ad money to take out Trump.  Mike’s money and experience. Won’t get fooled, again.  
    By the way, the virus outbreak is finally  hitting home with SFB; he’s meeting with WS execs to figure a way out of this mess.
    Ironically, Pooh-tin not playing nicely with the Saudis caused the oil aspect of the WS plunge, making SFB an even less desirable option to voters.   Way to go, Vlad, ya creep.  

  30. Bernie’s loss is almost a foregone conclusion.  Most of the former caucus states are now primaries which means he is facing the wrath of the Hillary voters right as “Hillary” is showing on HULU .  Add in the white women who voted for Trump last time around, and he can kiss any hope of the nomination goodbye.

    IOW, if he were on fire they would throw gasoline.

     

  31. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday that Rick Cotton, the Port Authority’s executive director for New York and New Jersey, has tested positive for the new coronavirus.

    Cotton has been overseeing the arrival of overseas flights coming into airports in the area, including John F. Kennedy International Airport

  32. Racist of the year awards go to self quarantine reps referring to Covid-19 as the “Wuhan Virus”.  At least if they are hospitalized, the white sheets will be handy.

     

  33. I suppose it’s too late to self-quarantine (reduce) my 401(k) contribution.   Of course, if I do it will probably ensure that WS stabilizes.   What a crappy way to save for retirement.

  34. BiD,
    I don’t have a 401(k). Being able to defer taxation until one makes use of the funds seems like a handsome benefit. Why do you dislike it?

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